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Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« on: August 07, 2014, 11:39:46 AM »
Yesterday, I submitted the post below as I struggled with whether or not to sell my Lexus SC convertible, which I purchased new for $66K before adopting a Mustachian philosophy.  Today the deed is done.  This morning I lowered the roof, loaded my mountain bike into the back seat, and took my final drive straight to the dealer.   My bicycle will now become the ultimate convertible.  The level of anxiety and indecision I felt in regards to selling the car was very interesting - it demonstrates how much power material goods can have over us, which in turn become part of my reason to sell the car.  Financially I still have mixed feelings since I sold a car that was in pristine condition, with under 18,000 miles, for $29K (A whopping $37,000 of depreciation!!!), but I feel a sense of relief, like Frodo after the ring was cast into Mount Doom.  I will miss having such a gorgeous fancy-pants vehicle, but by shifting my focus aware from material luxuries I hope to live a deeper life.  With garage space now freed up, I envision both surf boards and paddleboards in my future, and I'm one step closer to living-simply-in-San-Diego.

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Hello fellow Mustachians.  I'm in need of little advice and emotional support.  I've been blessed with a great career and relatively frugal spending habits so I had accumulated a respectable stash of money by age 35.  Not quite sure what to do with the excess accumulated earnings I foolishly decided to purchase a Lexus SC Convertible for almost $70K - paid in cash. (Please spare me the punches-to-the-face, my remorse runs deep). This car became my occasionally used pleasure vehicle since I kept my super reliable '97 Honda Civic.  Fast forward 7 years ahead to the present...I now have 3 kids (too many to squeeze into the vehicle), the Honda Civic still runs great, and the Lexus has under 18,000 miles on it - I’m averaging <2,500 miles per year.

Thus my cost per mile to date is >$3.65 before even factoring in insurance, gas, and maintenance.  The dealership has offered to purchase the car for $29,500, slightly above the KBB dealer value for a vehicle in excellent condition.

Here’s my dilemma:  If I sell it, my cost per mile will exceed $2 (($66K - $29K)/18000miles) - a depressingly high number.  Alternatively, given the fact that my vehicle as depreciated by ~60%, with so few miles, I could plan on keeping it for another 15 years.  Overtime, the total cost of ownership would go down when divided by mile driven and it wouldn't feel like such a loss.

Based purely on the math, I know it's probably better to sell.  I can invest the 29K and purchased a used Toyota Matrix or Honda Fit for about 10K.  But emotionally it's very hard to take a 60% loss on vehicle that is practically in mint condition.  In addition, it's a beautiful car and I live in San Diego - perfect convertible climate.  With this background I welcome feedback from my thoughtful fellow Mustachians.

Advice, support and taunts, at my ignorant fancy-pants purchase, are all welcome.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2014, 12:40:41 PM »
Dang, I'm sure that was one tough nut to swallow! 

Did you really ride your bike home from the dealership? SWEEET!
They'll tell the story of the guy who sold his 2 seater convertable and rode home on a bike FOREVER!  Congratulations you are a LEGEND!

The pain will ease, like all pain does, and you have a lesson to share with your children.  Set your sights ahead and don't look back!

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2014, 12:55:06 PM »
Congrats!  I read your seeking advice post.  It's not often that someone can move from discussion to action - kudos for pulling the trigger, you know it was the right thing to do.

I got to assume the dealer doesn't see to many of these situations....any reaction from them when you said you were riding home on your bike??

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 01:46:25 PM »
They'll tell the story of the guy who sold his 2 seater convertable and rode home on a bike FOREVER!  Congratulations you are a LEGEND!

Agreed, that's pretty badass!

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 03:15:28 PM »
That looks like 4s

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 03:28:56 PM »
Legendary for sure!!! 


Also, inspiring.  I'm in the process of selling off some motorcycles that I've had for a long time.  If you can sell the car, I can sell the bikes. 

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 03:48:42 PM »
Wow. That's quite a pill to swallow. Good for you!!

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2014, 03:50:37 PM »
They'll tell the story of the guy who sold his 2 seater convertable and rode home on a bike FOREVER!  Congratulations you are a LEGEND!

Agreed, that's pretty badass!

Double agreed!!! Congrats on your decision. :)

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2014, 05:11:55 PM »
I think I need the facepunch because I'm worried about losing money on the jeep I only paid for $6,250 for!!

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 06:26:35 PM »
My bicycle will now become the ultimate convertible.

Yeah buddy!  Love this! 

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 06:38:34 PM »
Well done sir,  well done………..

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 07:47:05 PM »
Sorry, forgot what forum I was on...

You are a FUCKING LEGEND!!

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 08:12:28 PM »
Well done. I sold my 2011 m3 convertible that was 82k new a few months ago.  People at the dealership were asking me how much I was regretting selling the car.  I actually hopped on the train and smiled the entire way home.  Good on you.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 09:04:10 PM »
That's how my wife and I felt about her A3. It was tough giving it up, but realistically we should have done that sooner (lease swap or something). She probably paid a good $5k more for the privilege of a 4 year lease on a car that she couldn't keep than we'll pay all in for her plug-in Prius advanced.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2014, 01:19:25 AM »
I live in Germany which is probably the only country in the world where it actually makes sense to own a decent sports car.

A few years ago I moved to Australia and went from owning a Porsche 911 C4S to a VW Golf Diesel.  I simply no longer saw the point in owning a fast car in a country where I could not use it, or rather on the occasions when I would be tempted to use it I would likely risk some hefty speeding fines.

When we moved back from australia five years ago I went back to a fast car (and now drive an Audi TTRS).

Anyway, my point is its worthwhile to really sit back and think why you want something - is it the intrinsic value to you or is it actually to impress other people.  I think you made the right choice by the way.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2014, 05:13:49 AM »
I live in Germany which is probably the only country in the world where it actually makes sense to own a decent sports car.

A few years ago I moved to Australia and went from owning a Porsche 911 C4S to a VW Golf Diesel.  I simply no longer saw the point in owning a fast car in a country where I could not use it, or rather on the occasions when I would be tempted to use it I would likely risk some hefty speeding fines.

When we moved back from australia five years ago I went back to a fast car (and now drive an Audi TTRS).

Anyway, my point is its worthwhile to really sit back and think why you want something - is it the intrinsic value to you or is it actually to impress other people.  I think you made the right choice by the way.
You don't say. When I lived in Frankfurt as a kid, my dad would sometimes take me on the freeway around 6am on the weekend to "test" whatever company car he had at the time, usually a E class or whatever the BMW equivalent was at the time. You know something's up when the speedometer already reads 220 kmph and some young banker blasts past you on a straight stretch of the road.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2014, 08:22:23 PM »
So impressive!  Earlier this year, I sold my 2013 Hyundai Elantra - black, with tan leather interior AND seat warmers - and went car-less.   I thought I was pretty special but this takes the cake!!
You won't regret it!  Well done.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2014, 09:02:07 PM »
With garage space now freed up, I envision both surf boards and paddleboards in my future, and I'm one step closer to living-simply-in-San-Diego.
The good news is that you'll find plenty of both on Craigslist, and you'll be paying with cash!

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2014, 02:08:40 AM »
I live in Germany which is probably the only country in the world where it actually makes sense to own a decent sports car.

A few years ago I moved to Australia and went from owning a Porsche 911 C4S to a VW Golf Diesel.  I simply no longer saw the point in owning a fast car in a country where I could not use it, or rather on the occasions when I would be tempted to use it I would likely risk some hefty speeding fines.

When we moved back from australia five years ago I went back to a fast car (and now drive an Audi TTRS).

Anyway, my point is its worthwhile to really sit back and think why you want something - is it the intrinsic value to you or is it actually to impress other people.  I think you made the right choice by the way.
You don't say. When I lived in Frankfurt as a kid, my dad would sometimes take me on the freeway around 6am on the weekend to "test" whatever company car he had at the time, usually a E class or whatever the BMW equivalent was at the time. You know something's up when the speedometer already reads 220 kmph and some young banker blasts past you on a straight stretch of the road.

The TTRS tops out at 280 ;-)

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2014, 03:13:14 AM »
Congrats!  I'm thinking of selling my Beemer which wasn't nearly as expensive but of which I'm putting similar mileage on per year.  It's a hard thing to do...

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2014, 08:35:22 AM »
Great job!  Heck, why keep loosing money.

I sold a 1965 Corvette, a 2005 Mini Cooper S, and a 1994 Jeep (all but the Jeep in pristine condition).  Went completely debt free with the sale of the Vette.  Better feeling to me than the rumble of a big horse power V-8 (paid $10,500 for the Vette and sold it for $33,000, but 24 years and many $$ later).

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2014, 09:03:52 AM »
You must have blown their minds. They must currently be telling everyone they know how the country and the economy must be going to the dogs for anyone to do something like this.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2014, 04:23:38 AM »
Wow, I'm almost on the opposite end of that.

Bought a 2008 Acura tsx for ~$24k around 5 years back, and looking to sell to my parents and upgrade to a (used) Audi a6 (somewhere between 32-34k on Autotrader)... likelly 2012-2013 model.

I like nice cars, but no way am I spending $46k for a new one when a used one fully loaded and only 2 model years removed is over THIRTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS less.

No thanks, but maybe I should just keep my old ride? Ehhh... so difficult!

Awesome that you were finally able to part with it. I guess it's a big relief knowing you were able to part with something that had such great emotional value.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2014, 05:48:06 AM »
That is impressive.

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Re: Reflections after selling a pristine Lexus SC convertible
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2014, 08:25:25 AM »
You traded status for freedom.  How sweet freedom is!  You know you did the right thing.  The biggest lesson here is that you were able sidestep "pseudo importance through material luxury goods" and are now enjoying the rewards.  Job well done.  You inspire me.