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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2024, 11:48:26 AM »

And hoping to have enough to pay for some 6-12 hour trips in the near future for the whole family. That’s my goal for this year, a bike and/or backpacking Amtrak trip to a national park in our state for the 4 of us, paid with points.

That is awesome. I hope you can pull it off. 

The other wrinkle is that Amtrak is great for visiting cities and even small towns, but we are usually camping and collecting National Parks along the way which leans to driving, like our trip up to New England this summer. We are car camping, so while our minivan is not particularly efficient, it isn't near RV territory. On the flip side, we have camped and toured via plane and rental car before so there isn't a reason we couldn't swap train for plane.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2024, 11:25:22 AM »
This is super interesting I have never considered taking the Amtrak, but I have taken public transportation my entire life.

Will have to look into this further. How much space did you have to bring on luggage?

There is some sort of official limit but I’ve never had anyone question it. You do have to be able to haul it around. Better yet, you can bring your own food and drink and wine!

The trip we took last fall, dinner included a glass of wine which I don’t remember being the case before.

I have met really interesting people on the train at meals - one time a guy who delivered yachts for a living, and last fall we sat with an Amish couple who had never heard of IKEA.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2024, 11:40:22 AM »
My DD in college has discovered Amtrak. Since she grew up rural she started driving at 16 and took her car with her to college.
Her car was damaged last summer, though, and I haven't fixed it yet. It's not worth the cost of repairs, and she only used it to drive to her preferred grocery store and visits home (3 hours) and trips with her friends up I-5 to the city for shows and such. Still, she was not happy to be without transportation.
Now she takes the train to a small station that's 45 minutes from me for trips home and for trips to the city.
She acknowledged that the train is less stressful than driving and she can read or play games while traveling.
So nice to see her move beyond what she grew up with and embrace new ideas.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2024, 01:59:22 PM »
I only recently learned about a really nice extra with Amtrak, which is their BidUp option. You buy a cheap coach seat way ahead of time, then close to departure, you bid on a higher class of service, within a range that they suggest. Depending on your day and route, this can be a remarkably small amount extra. My sweetie and I recently travelled from Houston to New Orleans ($90 for two coach seats), and for an $85 bid we got our own roomette, which gave us privacy, seats that converted to beds, and a lunch and dinner (and wine) in the fancy dining car. Would definitely do it again.

Google "amtrak bidup" for info and tips from people who travel more than I do.

<ETA: Oops, so long between first reading this thread and coming back to it that I had forgotten that folks had already mentioned the BidUp!>
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #54 on: February 28, 2024, 09:20:12 AM »
I've always dreamed of traveling cross-country by Amtrak. I didn't know about the USA Rail Pass or Bid-Up, though. This is a really useful and informative thread - thanks, @Fru-Gal!

Trains are the best way to travel. The convenience of driving without the stress, and they're way better for the planet. I've taken Amtrak from NY to DC and Boston, but I'd really like to go farther.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2024, 02:37:14 PM »
Best thread period!

So glad you had this experience.

I’m so tired of the roads, a train seems like the height of luxury. I worked in NYC and had to go to Boston a couple times a month and Baltimore maybe once a month. ALWAYS Amtrak. Beat the hell out of flying or driving. Gotta get back on the rail for pleasure. Thanks for the kick.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2024, 08:57:01 AM »
Ooh, how cool! I didn't know the USA even had this - one more item for my bucket list. Are you going to graduate to a Eurail Pass? They also often have sales on passes, and a similar structure for using the pass in Europe. In case you hadn't heard of this but would like to know more: https://www.eurail.com/en

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2024, 09:25:40 AM »
Ooh, how cool! I didn't know the USA even had this - one more item for my bucket list. Are you going to graduate to a Eurail Pass? They also often have sales on passes, and a similar structure for using the pass in Europe. In case you hadn't heard of this but would like to know more: https://www.eurail.com/en
I believe Amtrak has or had a pass (15, 30 or 45 day pass) only people from other countries could buy and it couldn't be purchased in the US. That may be similar, or the same, to the pass @Fru-Gal  used but has to be purchased outside the US for foreigners. 

https://railpass.shop/en/united-states/#:~:text=The%20American%20Amtrak%20system%20is,window%2C%20so%2Dcalled%20segments.&text=to%20cross.,purchased%20on%20United%20States%20trains.

I loved using the Eurail pass and would like to try the Amtrak one someday. I do a bike ride called the Amtrak Century each year where you get to ride the train back after the ride so that's my only experience with Amtrak.

ETA: I watched a TV show the other night about long distance trains in Canada. The episode I saw was about taking a train to Churchill Manitoba in winter when it was 30 below zero. Very cool and interesting and could be fun (in summer) to do something like that. 
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2024, 10:41:39 AM »
I just checked the site and I could go visit family leaving from Flagstaff going to Kansas City for just under $250 round trip.  I will probably do this either for my may trip or my September trip.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2024, 11:43:14 PM »
Awesome! Yes I have also ridden some great trains in Europe (Bernina Express, various Italian high-speed lines, Switzerland, Germany, UK, France). But honestly Amtrak has them beat in my book. I have seen America’s most beautiful routes and love them all.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2024, 08:13:06 AM »
Awesome! Yes I have also ridden some great trains in Europe (Bernina Express, various Italian high-speed lines, Switzerland, Germany, UK, France). But honestly Amtrak has them beat in my book. I have seen America’s most beautiful routes and love them all.

That may be the first time anyone has ever said that American trains are better than European trains, ha.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2024, 10:38:09 AM »
Yep, that’s why I said it. And I am honestly not lying. The scenery is spectacular and unrivaled, covering thousands of miles (that would span multiple countries in Europe). The people are kind. And the whole system runs like clockwork, contrary to what you hear. Amtrak telephone customer service is genuinely great.

(And I’ve had canceled or delayed trains due to labor strikes in Europe, I’ve been on ugly or dirty trains in Europe, and I’ve paid exhorbitant prices for certain routes in Europe. So the whole “it’s perfect” line is BS.)

As I said upthread, when I got to the Chicago station and saw that it was just like many European massive hub stations, I realized how much we’re being lied to about our trains. America was built on trains, and despite the onslaught of the automobile, in the 1970s America had the foresight to preserve them for passengers and create Amtrak. Now, a new passenger rail boom is coming, with public and private routes. The federal investment in 2024 is unprecedented. We’re also getting a bunch of new train sets.

But it’s a bit like riding a bike or becoming Mustachian, you’re not going to convince someone who isn’t predisposed to seeing the beauty and grandeur of this system, just like you’re not going to convince many people that slow compounding can make them rich.

Mexico has been adding some amazing routes under their current president. Can’t wait to ride the Mayan train. I only wish we could speed up our ridiculously slow process of building a West Coast high speed line. I’m going to be so old by the time that’s running. I still haven’t ridden Acela, our first high speed route. But new ones are being built now (and built faster than California High Speed Rail, which admittedly covers the most distance).

However, the good news is the West Coast trains (Vancouver to San Diego) traverse the most beautiful scenery in America, even if they aren’t high speed.
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2024, 10:47:28 AM »
100% on Amtrak being awesome and specifically that the coast starlight does not need to be moving faster.

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2024, 04:36:47 PM »
This sounds like a wonderful way to explore the USA, thank you for sharing this trip with us. I was under the impression that most train routes had been dismantled over the past forty years, but a quick search tells me there are still quite a few interesting routes on the Amtrak network.

I did a lot of train travel in my younger days, in the late 70s and early 80s, inspired by Paul Théroux's The Great Railway Bazaar. I haven't travelled by train since then but my attraction to train travel remains strong. As a teen coming of age in the 70s, I did the obligatory backpacking trips to Europe, crisscrossing the continent by train thanks to the unlimited EurailPass which used to be such a steal at the time. These were fun trips but nothing close to the more interesting trips I took a few years later as part of my first real job which was to interview First Nations groups for a traditional knowledge and land-use occupancy project. The first trip I was sent was from Sept-Iles to Schefferville in Northern Quebec on an old train that passed through very important wintering areas for First Nation families who would get dropped off in the middle of nowhere with all their gear, including canoes and tents, to spend the winter on their traplines. The train was old and slow and smelled of campfire, smoked moose hide, and fresh spruce. It had old wood stoves where families would cook caribou stew and bannock and make tea. My second assignment was to ride the train from Cochrane (Ontario) to Moosonee and Moose Factory, two small Cree communities on the shore of James Bay in northern Canada where the Hudson's Bay Company established the second-oldest trading post in North America sometime in the 1670s. As a young know-it-all environmental scientist, I realized very quickly on my first assignment that I didn't know fuck-all and these people who never went to school knew a lot more than my university professors...A few years later, this time for fun, I travelled by train from Hong Kong to Harbin via Nanjing-Shanghai-Beijing-Shenyang. I had planned to ride to Ulan Bator and then to Moscow on the Trans-Siberian but, as it was the pre-internet era, I found out in Harbin there were no connections from there, and more importantly, I couldn't secure the proper visas to get to Ulan Bator and Russia so I retreated to Beijing. These trains were mostly the original ones built in the early to mid-1900s by the British or the French, and they retained the charm of a longgone era. Now that I am retired and have plenty of time on my hands, my bucket list includes riding the Orient Express -although from the reviews I read it sounds more like an expensive luxury trip than an adventure, and the Trans-Siberian from Ulan Bator or Vladivostok to Moscow (this will of course have to wait until after peace is re-established) but convincing my wife that a train ride with a bunch of Vodka-drinking Russians would be a fun way to spend a couple of weeks is not an easy feat...   
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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2024, 09:23:57 AM »
The first trip I was sent was from Sept-Iles to Schefferville in Northern Quebec on an old train that passed through very important wintering areas for First Nation families who would get dropped off in the middle of nowhere with all their gear, including canoes and tents, to spend the winter on their traplines. The train was old and slow and smelled of campfire, smoked moose hide, and fresh spruce. It had old wood stoves where families would cook caribou stew and bannock and make tea. My second assignment was to ride the train from Cochrane (Ontario) to Moosonee and Moose Factory, two small Cree communities on the shore of James Bay in northern Canada where the Hudson's Bay Company established the second-oldest trading post in North America sometime in the 1670s.

I think both these routes still exist! The Schefferville line is now run by the first nation whose lands it runs through.
https://www.tshiuetin.net/?lang=en

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Re: I spent a month traveling America with the USA Rail Pass!
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2024, 10:13:37 AM »
Amazing stories, @YK-Phil !

 

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