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zolotiyeruki

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I finished my own basement!
« on: April 21, 2020, 12:09:29 PM »
This story actually started about 12 years ago, when the previous owner of our home decided to DIY his basement.  Fast forward to 2011, when we bought the house.  The PO had done the framing, electrical, plumbing, and drywall.  And did everything wrong.  Literally.  The plumbing was sloped the wrong direction and was undersized.  The electrical consisted of single conductors (our area requires EMT, so no Romex) run through the walls, the ductwork had been crushed in several places in order to allow higher ceilings, the corners had more mud than drywall, etc.

Aaaanyway, after I demolished all of that shoddy work, our basement sat unfinished for the next 8 years, while I iterated through countless floorplans.  Finally, at Christmas a year and a half ago, we decided we could afford the money and I could find the time to finish it, and in May 2019 the work began in earnest.  I did all the framing, HVAC, and electrical myself, including rerouting a significant chunk of ductwork to enable higher ceilings.  I did all the grunt work for the plumbing as well (cutting the slab for the underfloor stuff, all the concrete work), and hired a plumber to actually run the lines.*  I *did* hire out the drywall, which was worth every single penny.  I bought a used airless paint sprayer and did all the paint and trim myself.**  I used a contractor friend's carpet guy and got a screaming deal on a roll of ridiculously luxurious carpet that had been mis-ordered for another client.  I saved several hundred dollars by buying used bathroom fixtures.

Total finished square feet: about 1,200, including a bedroom and bathroom.  I am particularly pleased with the layout we settled on, and glad for all the time I spent on the details.  The bedroom, although under 100 square feet, holds a queen bed comfortably, with room for night stands on either side, and the door does not interfere with any walking paths.  I put fiberglass batts in the walls and ceiling around it, and it's fantastically quiet.  Plus, it has a walk-in closet.  The 3/4 bath is small, but again, does not feel cramped at all.  Together, the bedroom, closet, and bathroom only take up 175 square feet.  I get a 14x16 workshop with its own 20A circuit.  I added doorbell chimes so that if the whole family is downstairs and someone comes to the door, we can hear it.  There's a great storage/play space under the stairs, and a nook around the corner where we'll put a desk for sewing and crafting.  The living area is big, open, and contiguous.  Five of the seven posts are hidden inside walls.  We have lots of outlets, split among several breakers.  The lights are on three-way switches, placed for maximum convenience.  The windows are set deep enough that our kids can climb up and sit on the sills.
 And the ceiling...well, DW didn't want a traditional suspended ceiling, and I didn't want drywall, so we settled on large MDF panels, each hinged on one side.  That part was a lot of work.  But now it's done.  Most of the ceiling is over 8' high, and the lowest point (under beams) is 91".  Our all-in cost is a bit under $16k.

Since we can't invite anyone over to enjoy our new space, I want to brag.  Here it is.  Sorry about the poor angles on the bedroom and bathroom--I don't have a wide-angle lens, and the efficiency of the layout doesn't allow for very good angles.







* Next time, knowing what I know now, I'll do all the plumbing myself.
** There's nothing quite like painting 200 linear feet in half an hour!

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2020, 12:25:00 PM »
Pretty impressive. And the cost savings is huge!

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2020, 01:15:19 PM »
That is phenomenal.  Well done! 

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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 03:31:31 PM »
Pretty impressive. And the cost savings is huge!
No joke.  Our neighbors/friends two doors down with the same house layout got theirs done around the same time (well, _starting_ at the same time, but finished far earlier, because they hired my contractor friend), and spent about $40k, so I saved $24k.  I figure if I spent 400 hours on this project (probably a bit high), I "saved" $60/hour after taxes.  If I had hired out our custom ceiling, it would have likely added a few thousand to the overall cost, compared to maybe $500 more for drywall or $800 for a suspended ceiling.

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2020, 04:21:46 PM »
Gosh even $40K is such a bargain! Jelly at the construction costs by you. Great work and looks like a huge amount of new space.

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2020, 04:22:07 PM »
Looks great! A sense of pride I'm sure as well.

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2020, 08:01:12 PM »
Way to go!

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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2020, 08:58:48 PM »
Thanks, all.  It definitely comes with a sense of pride (heh, I accidentally typed "price" there.  I guess that works, too) to look at it and know that I did it myself.  Our two oldest (15 and 13) have already moved into the new bathroom, away from all the younger kids.  Our second bathroom upstairs is ridiculous--it's 8' x 13, has two sinks, a separate shower, a toilet, and three doors, so privacy can be an issue.

Seriously, it's big enough, square footage-wise, to put in two full bathrooms, yet the builder filled that space with...one and a half?  Shortly before we decided to proceed with the basement, we bounced around the idea of ripping it out and splitting it into two.

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2020, 06:52:27 AM »
Nice Job, that looks fantastic!!

With all this at home time I'm trying to summon up the courage to rebuild our current crappy aluminum back porch into a year round use able one. Been binge watching YouTube how to's ;-)

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2020, 08:00:13 AM »
Neat. Did you install the egress window yourself, have it contracted, or put in by the previous owner?

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2020, 08:19:37 AM »
We are having a similar debate over how to finish the ceiling in our basement.  Can you explain your hinged MDF solution?  MDF tends to sag a lot. Did you have to reinforce it to prevent sagging?

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2020, 09:48:06 AM »
Neat. Did you install the egress window yourself, have it contracted, or put in by the previous owner?
Thanks!  The egress window was installed when the house was originally built (several years before we bought it).  And thank heavens for that--that would have added a whole new level of pain to the project.
We are having a similar debate over how to finish the ceiling in our basement.  Can you explain your hinged MDF solution?  MDF tends to sag a lot. Did you have to reinforce it to prevent sagging?
I've attached a picture showing some of the details, and a photo of me installing the last panel (sorry for the poor quality).  The largest panels were 49 x 72", with the hinges along the long side (so the 49" is the dimension that would sag).  The photo shows one of those.  I used 1/2" MDF, so it doesn't sag as much as 1/4" would.  The panels with the longest "sag" distance were 49 x 55, with hinges along the 49" side.  So far, there's no noticeable sag in the 49x72" panels.  The 55"-long panels show a tiny bit of sag if you're looking for it. I added ribs to stiffen the first 49x55 panel, and I have room available to add ribs to all the other panels if needed.  Or, I could add furring strips at the midpoint of the sag and screw the panels in there as well.

That said, 1/2" MDF is _heavy_.  Next time I would consider 1/4" MDF, and stiffen it with plywood or 1x2 ribs

One thing I didn't account for was the standoff distance of the hinges--on the side of each panel where the hinges are mounted, the panel is 1/8-1/4" below the furring strip, while the other end is screwed flush.  It's not noticeable, but next time I'd use 3/8" plywood for the protruding tabs (on the "screwed flush" end) in order to make the whole thing more level.

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2020, 11:46:00 AM »
This looks great! The daylight and careful attention to details (like the light switching) is especially nice. If I recall from the bedroom/bath/closet layout you previously shared, the closet is sized to alternately accommodate a twin bed, which is brilliant. Very efficient, flexible layout.

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2020, 12:04:32 PM »
What kind of person designs a bathroom with three doors??!!

Looks great @zolotiyeruki - if you can, would you post a closeup of your hinged ceiling panels?  I'm still not entirely getting what they look like or what you went this route (vs sheetrocking the ceiling).  Was it to have easy-access to services?

Also, why fiberglass batts in the bedroom and not comfortbatts (Rockwool)?  Thought the latter had better sound-absorbtion abilities. 

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2020, 10:45:39 PM »
BEAUTIFUL .......

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2020, 08:36:59 AM »
This looks great! The daylight and careful attention to details (like the light switching) is especially nice. If I recall from the bedroom/bath/closet layout you previously shared, the closet is sized to alternately accommodate a twin bed, which is brilliant. Very efficient, flexible layout.
That's correct, although at the moment it's storing a spare queen bed and crib.

What kind of person designs a bathroom with three doors??!!

Looks great @zolotiyeruki - if you can, would you post a closeup of your hinged ceiling panels?  I'm still not entirely getting what they look like or what you went this route (vs sheetrocking the ceiling).  Was it to have easy-access to services?

Also, why fiberglass batts in the bedroom and not comfortbatts (Rockwool)?  Thought the latter had better sound-absorbtion abilities. 
An architect who's given a checklist (4 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, X square feet, semi-colonial style, must have jack-and-jill, yada yada, yada), finds himself with too many square feet left over, and is too lazy to figure out a better layout, that's who.

Why fiberglass instead of Rockwool?  Cost, pure and simple.

I've attached an annotated photo of my worse "oops" panel, for reference

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Re: I finished my own basement!
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2020, 02:40:39 PM »
You, Sir, are offcially what's known as a "Badass." Project looks great!

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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2020, 04:34:19 PM »
You, Sir, are offcially what's known as a "Badass." Project looks great!
Aw, shucks.  We're really enjoying having the extra space.  Every time I walk on that carpet, it puts a smile on my face.