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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #50 on: December 25, 2018, 01:00:15 PM »
I clicked on this thread assuming you'd have "beat the Feds" by reducing a tax bill and thought I might learn something.  I was right on the second count, albeit not in the manner I expected.  Thanks for your efforts, and the inspirational story. 

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #51 on: December 25, 2018, 01:10:10 PM »
This was REAL badassity!

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2019, 09:30:57 PM »
I also assumed it was going to be a tax thing. So much better. You have done genuine good. Amazing story.

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2019, 09:47:07 AM »
I just came back to re-read your story because it made me so happy the first time.

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2019, 12:34:25 PM »
Ah...how inspiring that you helped someone break the law.

A slap in the face to legal immigrants such as myself who worked so hard, spent money, scarified so much. Forgive me for finding your story sad. You wasted tax payer money to defend those that broke the law. What is the point of having an immigration system if a heartbreaking story is all that is needed to bend the rules. Let me tell you, I have plenty of heartbreaking stories myself...

I learned a new language, traveled 9000 miles, lived under poverty line to get to where I am today, and I did this without breaking the law.

But our stories or opinions don't matter because folks like me don't belong to a politically important group.
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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2019, 01:29:19 PM »
Ah...how inspiring that you helped someone break the law.

A slap in the face to legal immigrants such as myself who worked so hard, spent money, scarified so much. Forgive me for finding your story sad. You wasted tax payer money to defend those that broke the law. What is the point of having an immigration system if a heartbreaking story is all that is needed to bend the rules. Let me tell you, I have plenty of heartbreaking stories myself...

I learned a new language, traveled 9000 miles, lived under poverty line to get to where I am today, and I did this without breaking the law.

But our stories or opinions don't matter because folks like me don't belong to a politically important group.

Your characterization is incorrect. He did not help some break the law.  He defended a person accused of breaking the law and negotiated a settlement that the authorities approved, all within the law. This would be no different than someone accused of say, drunk driving, having an attorney defend them, not to mention a billion other types of offenses.  And itís great that you like to position yourself as a saint who has never ever done anything in your life that may violate any law, thatís impressive and rare. Everyone is entitled to a defense, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The state has an obligation to prove that its laws were violated and then determine appropriate actions if so. That has occurred here.

To the OP, congratulations on your work and what a wonderful acknowledgement that MMM helped provide you with the capacity to make this happen.

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2019, 01:34:52 PM »

Your characterization is incorrect. He did not help some break the law.  He defended a person accused of breaking the law and negotiated a settlement that the authorities approved, all within the law. This would be no different than someone accused of say, drunk driving, having an attorney defend them, not to mention a billion other types of offenses.  And itís great that you like to position yourself as a saint who has never ever done anything in your life that may violate any law, thatís impressive and rare. Everyone is entitled to a defense, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The state has an obligation to prove that its laws were violated and then determine appropriate actions if so. That has occurred here.

To the OP, congratulations on your work and what a wonderful acknowledgement that MMM helped provide you with the capacity to make this happen.

Not breaking the law, makes me a saint? Then the bar in America is very low. It is true though. I have never broken the law once in my life. Not in India, not in the US. If I did, I would get in trouble with immigration. Besides, I stay home and play video games most of the time (hence I have a lot of money). In my opinion, its pretty easy to not break the law. I hardly consider myself a saint. If I can do it (and I have average intelligence at best), and no privilege whatsoever (I am brown)..so...I would like to think any able bodied person can do it.

I am not going to comment much more on this. I have a feeling I might get reported and banned for not agreeing with the talking points.

Feel free to contact me outside of this if you wish to talk immigration, because there is so much misinformation on this (from both sides). I can give you the facts and you will be smart enough to draw your own conclusions.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2019, 01:38:00 PM by minimalistgamer »

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2019, 10:19:23 PM »

Your characterization is incorrect. He did not help some break the law.  He defended a person accused of breaking the law and negotiated a settlement that the authorities approved, all within the law. This would be no different than someone accused of say, drunk driving, having an attorney defend them, not to mention a billion other types of offenses.  And itís great that you like to position yourself as a saint who has never ever done anything in your life that may violate any law, thatís impressive and rare. Everyone is entitled to a defense, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The state has an obligation to prove that its laws were violated and then determine appropriate actions if so. That has occurred here.

To the OP, congratulations on your work and what a wonderful acknowledgement that MMM helped provide you with the capacity to make this happen.

Not breaking the law, makes me a saint? Then the bar in America is very low. It is true though. I have never broken the law once in my life. Not in India, not in the US. If I did, I would get in trouble with immigration. Besides, I stay home and play video games most of the time (hence I have a lot of money). In my opinion, its pretty easy to not break the law. I hardly consider myself a saint. If I can do it (and I have average intelligence at best), and no privilege whatsoever (I am brown)..so...I would like to think any able bodied person can do it.

I am not going to comment much more on this. I have a feeling I might get reported and banned for not agreeing with the talking points.

Feel free to contact me outside of this if you wish to talk immigration, because there is so much misinformation on this (from both sides). I can give you the facts and you will be smart enough to draw your own conclusions.
Funny, I would think being able-bodied would be a huge privilege indeed. Having average intelligence would also be a privilege, as many who are less fortunate can attest. To say you have no privilege whatsoever is disingenuous, IMO.

I agree with @MrThatsDifferent.

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Re: I beat the federal government...
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2019, 10:16:48 AM »
Ah...how inspiring that you helped someone break the law.

A slap in the face to legal immigrants such as myself who worked so hard, spent money, scarified so much. Forgive me for finding your story sad. You wasted tax payer money to defend those that broke the law. What is the point of having an immigration system if a heartbreaking story is all that is needed to bend the rules. Let me tell you, I have plenty of heartbreaking stories myself...

I learned a new language, traveled 9000 miles, lived under poverty line to get to where I am today, and I did this without breaking the law.

But our stories or opinions don't matter because folks like me don't belong to a politically important group.

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I don't want to share too many details, so you'll have to take the ones I give and trust the overall idea.

You know almost nothing about this family or why they were in this situation. OP chose to forego a significant amount of money and likely made significant emotional investments into this case. That tells me that they had great confidence in what they were doing and felt very strongly that society, not just this family, would be better off if they were kept together.

And clearly it took more than a heartbreaking story to get the resolution sought by OP and this family, it took a year of effort. Did you even read the post?