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How low are your utility bills?
« on: July 12, 2012, 05:02:26 PM »
I'm curious about how much Mustachians spend on utilities. I think I got it down pretty well so I'll start. My girlfriend and I live in a one bedroom apartment; here's what I've been paying for both of us:

Electricty: ~$10/month, plus $8/month connection fee (by the way the high is 110 degrees F where I live right now, booyah!)
Gas: ~$7/month
Sewer: $30/month (this is a flat rate so I can't do anything about it)
Water: This is included with the rent since there are no water meters
Cable, internet, phone: none, but my girlfriend has cell phone that she pays for

I think that's pretty good, but I thought I was frugal in a lot of ways until learning about the Mustachian way.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 05:09:26 PM »
I should point out that I can use the internet through my job when I am not working.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 06:10:36 PM »
My current gas bill is $15.06, electric is $39, and water is about $35/month.

I was recently in a discussion with a relative who just bought a house a few months ago, and her water is something like $70/month or more, electric was over $100. Another party to that discussion says, "That's nothing! My highest electric bills in the summer are over $300!"

We live in SoCal. Open a window and put on a fan, or go jump in that pool you pay so much to maintain!

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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2012, 06:37:43 PM »
Oh that's a bit of a sore spot for me! I'd gotten my total gas and electric bill down to $33 one month... I think that was only $5 more than the base rates that month. Then New Orleans summer started. It has been relatively cool though, and my apartment is surprisingly comfortable without too much a/c, so my bill for June is:
$35 for electric (base rate is $27)
$16 for gas (base rate is $14)
sewage and water are part of my rent, so I don't see those.

On a slight tangent, I'm so happy to have a place to brag about that! I told some friends the other day and they just shook their heads and chuckled while bemoaning their $150-$200 bills, which even for places 2x the size of mine is a bit ridiculous.

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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
Comparing just bill totals doesn't mean much; what's important is your actual usage and then what you pay per kWh.

For June, I paid 18 cents/kWh for 280 kWh, or $50.47. Our rates typically vary between 16 and 20 cents per kWh because our electricity is mostly from hydro (and some nuclear), not coal.

If you live in an area with cheap electric rates from coal fired plants, you'll pay a lot less for the same usage.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 01:11:04 PM »
I'm curious about how much Mustachians spend on utilities. I think I got it down pretty well so I'll start. My girlfriend and I live in a one bedroom apartment; here's what I've been paying for both of us:

Electricty: ~$10/month, plus $8/month connection fee (by the way the high is 110 degrees F where I live right now, booyah!)
Gas: ~$7/month
Sewer: $30/month (this is a flat rate so I can't do anything about it)
Water: This is included with the rent since there are no water meters
Cable, internet, phone: none, but my girlfriend has cell phone that she pays for

I think that's pretty good, but I thought I was frugal in a lot of ways until learning about the Mustachian way.
How the hell did you get your electric bill that low? I'm in Phoenix and we are right around that 110F number most days. My bill is around $200 for the hot months, in a roughly 1000sqft house, and the thermostat stays at 85 during the day and 82 at night.

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 01:24:58 PM »
Here is mine:

Electric: $0
Water: $0
Sewer: $0
Gas: $4

But then again, my situation is far from normal.

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 02:01:34 PM »
atelierk,
Good point; the unit cost can make a big difference. I pay 13.3 cents/Kwhr, so I use about 75 Kwhr per month. I think its cheap because it comes from a municipal agency; although I think the source is the huge dam nearby. Average cost per therm was $1.09, so close to 7 therms (whatever a therm is).

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I don't use the AC in my apartment. MMM has a cool post ("World's Most Efficient Air Conditioner" I think) about how your body will adjust to heat if you let it. I bike almost daily in the heat so I'm pretty used to it. I use an electric fan pointed at my bed at night. Even on the low setting I still need a blanket, so I'm thinking about looking for a smaller fan. I also unplug my appliances (TV, DVD, radio, microwave, not the fridge though) when I'm not using them to avoid phantom power. You can do this with power strips, but I don't have many appliances so I just unplug them. I use the appliances whenever I want to; I don't make any effort to minimize their use. I am planning to get a volt meter so I can check to see which actually use phantom power; right now I just assume they all do. I also unscrewed most of my light bulbs. Many light fixtures have 3 or more bulbs when 1 is just as good. I'd probably save a little more by getting CFLs, but I am still using the bulbs that were left in the place when I moved in. I think not using the AC is probably the biggest saver. And since I can't hide from the heat inside, I go out and have fun in the blazing sun. Thanks for asking; I am glad to share.

Rangifer,
OK you obviously win. Care to share your secret?

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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 04:38:56 PM »
Yeah, my wife and our cats would not go for leaving the AC off, unfortunately. No wonder you are saving so much money if you're not cooling your house!

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 10:09:58 PM »

Rangifer,
OK you obviously win. Care to share your secret?

I'm an on-site caretaker at a wildlife refuge. I don't pay rent either, just propane which is very little when used just for the stove. Like I said, it isn't a typical situation at all but it works for me.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 04:45:43 PM »
Real comparison is hard.  you need to convert gas and electric to the same units,  usually kwh.  Then take the size of the house into account so work out kwh/sqft.   Then take the heating and cooling degree days into consideration  and finally figure out how to balance it out per person in the house.  Then you'll have something that can with a large grain of salt be compared between random people over the net.  To know what's really going on you should post what appliances run on what fuel as well.  There is always debate as to how many KWH is in  a therm of gas and that depends on where it comes from and so on. 

I'm not doing that here.

My situation is an all electric 2400 sqft house with 2 adults, 2 kids under 5
Electricity for the last 12 months averages 826 kwh/month.  heating months average 977kwh/month and "summer" average 635kwh/month
water over the last year averages 3060 gallons/month with summer being double that of winter due to my gardens.

This works out to $70.06/month for electric
and $13.85 for water

sewage is a flat rate which works out to $8.04/month
Garbage is also a flate rate   of $9.70/month

The other bill is landline/internet/cable  which is a package.  At the moment I'm on a promotion where cable is free and they give me faster internet for free for agreeing to take the free cable.
 All 3 work out to an average of $73.73 over the last 12 months.  Longdistance is averaging $2.96 in that.  I write off or bill my customers for all of this since I work from home.

So my monthly average bill load is $175.38  or $43.85  per person.
If I'm doing my math right that means at 5% returns  and my bills not climbing I need $42,000 in savings  just to cover my monthly bills.  All them are exceeding the rate of inflation lately though...
« Last Edit: July 14, 2012, 05:05:06 PM by strider3700 »

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 02:00:07 PM »
This month the bill was $106.53 for 792KWH over 35 days. My peak was August @ 923KWH and the lowest in the past 12 months was May @ 533 KWH.  The number of days in the billing cycle appears to vary, though. The electric company supplies me with an average, which appears to be daily. Lowest in June at 20KWH avg, lots of 21KWH average months, but Aug + July each had a whopping 31KWH average.
Lots of room for improvement! Isn't that great!?!
We have 2 window unit AC's which I'm sure contribute to the higher usage in the summer. I think another factor may be the fact that there are people home all day using power in the summer instead of at school because my 24 avg months vs the 21 avg months coincide with my husband being laid off and therefore at home.
I know a few simple things I can do.
1. Lengthen the pull chain on the ceiling fan. I can't train my husband to shut it off and I can't reach it without dragging a kitchen chair into the living room. I wonder how much it costs to run a fan in an empty living room? (I know how much it wastes - ALL OF IT)
2. Shut off the 2nd floor hallway light at night. This one is tricky. There are no outlets in the hall and there is a staircase down to the 1st floor. My kids rooms are on the 2nd floor and so is the bathroom. There is no place to plug in a nightlight and the switch is at the top of the stairs. I don't like the idea of the kids heading into the bathroom or toward the switch in total darkness. My solution: I bought battery powered night lights with a light and motion sensor (so they should only activate if it is both dark and someone is moving around). I haven't received them yet. I don't know how much 1 bulb on all night wastes, so I don't know how long it will take to see a return on the investment (plus batteries). The nice thing is that the lights were purchased with "free" money. I got a $75 Amazon gift card for participating in our workplace health fair. I bought 6 of these nightlights, so I hope I'm happy with them.
3. Cut power to the entertainment center when it's off. The remainder of my gift card was used to buy a surge protector that has a timer. My husband goes to bed later than me every night, and often falls asleep watching TV or playing video games. This device has the potential to start a fight! I'll see how it goes. I don't know how much juice the TV + Playstation + Amplified antennae suck up when off.
 
Any of y'all-feel free to offer energy savings solutions and tell me where I'm going wrong. A big draw is my electric dryer. We are a family of 4. My oldest child moved out in July, so we were a family of 5. However, I own a duplex and my tenant is my sister in law. I allow her (family of 2) to wash and dry at my house since the basement is not workable for a washer/dryer setup on her side. My mother in law is my former tenant and she literally SNEAKS her laundry over here while I'm at work. Despite her efforts at being stealthy, I know. It is another fight I don't want to have. I put a coffee can in the laundry area and it's getting heavier. Hopefully not just from my own donations.
I should rig up a clothes line.

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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2012, 03:36:55 PM »
This year, since we moved to a new apartment it has been averaging $11.7/month!

That is for electric only, electricity is cheap in Seattle.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2012, 06:40:43 PM »
My starting use (before MMM) was an average 115 kWh per DAY for my family of 4 in Dallas in a 2700 square foot house with single pane windows (very energy inefficient). After finding MMM, we got it down to 75 kwh per day in month 1 of trying. Haven't received the next bill to see how we're doing in month 2 of trying to reduce our usage. But I will say it got down into the 40s last night, we didn't turn the heat on and were freezing this morning, but we just told the kids to bundle up last night, added extra blankets and they were fine.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 07:17:41 PM »
OP, WTG! That's the kind of usage I remember before we had kids. Loved seeing the utility bills under $25. ;)
If I was still living in our snug rancher in NJ, I'd post our usage. Prices were high there but our usage was awesomely low.
Here in CO, in an inefficient rental, our numbers are not impressive. Every plumbing fixture here is high flow. The cold water is warm. The exterior pipes leak. I did go around and several dozen 60 watt bulbs with fluorescents and that helped. Otherwise we have little control(or permission to control) over other ways to save. We're are so happy to be moving into our new home next week!

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2012, 08:35:40 PM »
Electricity on Oahu runs about 32-35 cents/KWHr, and the vast majority of homes were built before people started using air conditioners.

Imagine:  double-wall construction with no interior insulation (or even single-wall construction in some plantation homes), single-pane untinted windows (or even jalousie windows), uninsulated attics, roofs made only of sheathing with tarpaper & shingles, no moisture barrier house wrap, no foam sprayed on air gaps.  That's standard.  No, that's actually considered pretty good quality around here.  No brick.  Maybe ornamental lava rock.  Concrete slabs-- the soil is too rocky for basements.

A number of homes are being retrofitted (at horrendous expense for construction materials) but most residents don't do the payback math to make a huge capital investment to avoid high monthly (recurring) bills.  New homes are generally being built with insulation and passive cooling, but again the tendency is to build a gigantic insulated box in the middle of a bare, exposed lot with a split-system A/C plant running 24/7.  The median single-family home here costs $600K (mostly for the land) and not much money gets spent on energy-efficient construction materials.  But the trend is improving.

So last week spouse and I visited the local "Parade of Homes" winners.  These homes were built for energy efficiency with insulated walls, reflective solar roofs, double-pane tinted-glass low-e windows, heavy-duty seals on windows & doors, solar water heaters, and high-efficiency A/C.  These are touted as the island's most energy-efficient homes, but their idea of "energy-efficient" is still a huge insulated box in the middle of a bare, exposed lot.

The electric bills are touted as a "sustainable" $200/month.  That's considered a big deal because only about 400-500 KWHr/month goes to A/C. 

We don't have a heating or a cooling system.  We have a heavily insulated roof (2" icynene panels) and R13 fiberglas batts in the walls, with reflective foil (to keep the heat out) in the exterior of the walls & roof.  No attic insulation-- just lots of ventilation with solar exhaust fans.  Large screened lanai doors & windows for tradewind cooling.  We have ceiling fans but the last round of roof insulation was so effective that we haven't been using the ceiling fans.  If anything it's a bit cold here in the mornings, especially in winter.  CFL bulbs, a microwave convection oven, and EnergyStar appliances. 

We have solar water heating and an older photovoltaic array.  We generate and use about 140-150 KWHr/month.  Our electric bills are $13.80/month, which is the minimum customer fee for the privilege of our residential net-metering connection to HECO's (mostly) rock-solid grid voltage. 

But we're paying over $100/month for sewage.  The island's sewage infrastructure is rotting away and it's a huge capital expense to do the micro-tunneling to replace it with modern piping.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2012, 12:17:19 AM »
Yow, that sounds great, Nords!

I feel like I am in a similar position with our poorly insulated house here in Japan. (The vast majority of houses in Japan outside of the cold northern island of Hokkaido seem to be "poorly", "barely", or "non" insulated.) Although it is not as bad as you describe, since I did crack open the attic trapdoors and found a luxurious three inches of rock-wool insulation laid down. Better than nothing, I suppose.

I also just recently heard about radiant barriers, the reflective foil, and it seems like a cheap and hopefully effective way to keep some of the heat out of the house during the sweltering Tokyo summers. I'm looking at putting some up when I upgrade the attic insulation (hopefully adding another 6-9 inches). I haven't looked at attic ventilation fans yet but it sounds like they are working well for you so I will check them out.

I got a bit of a shock when I checked with one of the US-based sellers of the foil if they had a distributor in Japan. They did, and they sent me a brochure. A 1000 square foot roll of the foil that sells for $129 in the states was selling for 56,000yen here. That's about $715 at the current exchange rate. Umm.. no thanks.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2012, 07:06:51 AM »
I also just recently heard about radiant barriers, the reflective foil, and it seems like a cheap and hopefully effective way to keep some of the heat out of the house during the sweltering Tokyo summers. I'm looking at putting some up when I upgrade the attic insulation (hopefully adding another 6-9 inches). I haven't looked at attic ventilation fans yet but it sounds like they are working well for you so I will check them out.
My Japan experience was mainly Yokosuka, but you might have to be careful with freezing weather.  I don't have any experience with radiant products and snow-covered roofs, but if the snow melts on the rooftop and refreezes at the edge it could quickly lead to an ice dam in a gutter.  It might be better for your situation to boost the attic insulation to keep the heat from moving down through the attic into the house.  Or use the attic exhaust fan for warm weather and disconnect it for cold.

I got a bit of a shock when I checked with one of the US-based sellers of the foil if they had a distributor in Japan. They did, and they sent me a brochure. A 1000 square foot roll of the foil that sells for $129 in the states was selling for 56,000yen here. That's about $715 at the current exchange rate. Umm.. no thanks.
I haven't checked in a few years, but Oahu's home-improvement stores used to sell a line of 50-Hz appliances already configured for use in Japanese homes.  It was cheaper for Japanese visitors to fly to Hawaii and have their purchases shipped back to Japan than to buy in Japan.  Radiant foil insulation is light (but bulky) so you might be able to do much better ordering online from overseas.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2012, 12:08:39 PM »
Electric: (76kWh) - $9.78
Water: $14.51
Gas: very roughly $5 - I don't keep close enough track; Propane fillup costs about $50, and lasts over a year
Internet (+landline): $18.67
Cell: $46 (switching to Pageplus starting next month, will drop to $12)

This is for two humans and one cat (although the other human does have her own cellphone - already on the $12 PP)
Here's a few ideas that I wrote about for saving energy:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Not-your-average-save-energy-advice-use-less-en/

How the hell did you get your electric bill that low? I'm in Phoenix and we are right around that 110F number most days. My bill is around $200 for the hot months, in a roughly 1000sqft house, and the thermostat stays at 85 during the day and 82 at night.

And especially for you:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Not-your-average-save-energy-advice-use-less-en/step4/Keep-the-heat-out/
and
http://www.instructables.com/id/Stay-Cool-Without-AC/

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2012, 12:14:22 PM »
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Squeegee on the heat-block film-tint following the directions on the box.

Do you leave this on during the winter too, or reapply every summer?

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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 12:35:36 PM »
In the winter its probably warmer inside than out, so you would want it there to keep heat in.
But if you have reason to want to remove and reapply (say, a window that gets direct sun in winter, or if you are a renter) you can get a version that just uses static cling (no glue) no is easy to put on and off repeatedly

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2012, 07:24:59 PM »
Nice instructable, Bakari! If you were here on East Coast, I would kidnap you like Kathy Bates in that Stephen King book want you to park the RV at my house and be my mentor.
My clothes dryer is the main electricity draw here. Although I do the majority of the laundry, I don't think the hubby will tolerate the laundry of 4 ppl hanging in the house. I just got him to concede to cutting cable, so I will start the clothesline campaign now by utilizing one outside at least. I had to do my own laundry when I was a kid. We owned a dryer but I had to give my Dad a dollar to use it instead of the clothesline (except in the winter). I think my refusal to get a clothesline is a remnant of childish rebellion. I now wish I was paying my Dad instead of the electric company! I'll try out that great big free ball of hydrogen in the sky and stop being such a friggin BABY.

I heat with oil (forced hot water) and I will break my house if I'm not careful in the winter. We use a programmable thermostat that drops the temp at night and when we're not home. The temp at the thermostat drops much more slowly than the temp along the exterior walls and I froze my heat pipes for 4 days once during a cold snap. It was not a good time, but seems to only be a risk if the outside temp is in the teens or below. A requirement for my next house (if ever) will be that it be built within the last 100 years. I consume about 400 gallons of heating oil per year for my heat and hot water (tankless). The amount used for hot water doesn't even seem measurable (the gauge stays put all summer), tankless is great. I will be contacting the utility company to see what they can advise for weatherization. (I swear, clothesline and weatherization appt. are going on the "do" list).

681 KWH per month (real 12 month average)
Guesstimate of 400 gallons of heating oil yearly (average is meaningless here really, almost all the use is NOV - MAR, with super high use DEC - FEB).






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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2012, 08:12:39 PM »
Electric - $35
Water - $22
Gas - $8

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2012, 10:32:06 PM »
My Japan experience was mainly Yokosuka, but you might have to be careful with freezing weather.

  Yokosuka is only about 40 miles south of Tokyo so not much different. Freezing weather has rarely been a problem for us - most years we get no snow, every 2-3 years we seem to get a snowfall that is usually melted and gone within a couple days.

It might be better for your situation to boost the attic insulation to keep the heat from moving down through the attic into the house.

Definitely will be boosting our insulation, but I was thinking that as long as I am up there, might as well staple up some of this foil to help avoid the heat getting in in the first place. It doesn't look like it should be too hard. (Famous last words for a DIY newbie such as myself, perhaps.)

I haven't checked in a few years, but Oahu's home-improvement stores used to sell a line of 50-Hz appliances already configured for use in Japanese homes.  It was cheaper for Japanese visitors to fly to Hawaii and have their purchases shipped back to Japan than to buy in Japan.  Radiant foil insulation is light (but bulky) so you might be able to do much better ordering online from overseas.

This is a very helpful suggestion, thanks! We're planning a stop in Oahu during our next trip to the States, so I may take some time to visit a home center and see what makes sense to buy and ship back.

I have also been interested in trying a reshipping service like ExpatExpress, which should let me order the foil/etc and ship it to a US address and they'll reship it to us. It should still work out cheaper than paying the local price. I need to price out attic insulation as well - it might be cheaper to import it too, although that seems pretty... silly.

Cheers.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2012, 02:08:54 AM »
Monthly Expense:
Water: $43
Phone/Internet: $100 (have recently dumped this)
Mobile: $43
Electricity: $99
 = $285 p/m

soon to be $185 (without the phone/internet)

This is a really interesting stream - I'm fascinated by how low the bills are in other countries!!

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2012, 07:28:33 PM »
Definitely will be boosting our insulation, but I was thinking that as long as I am up there, might as well staple up some of this foil to help avoid the heat getting in in the first place. It doesn't look like it should be too hard. (Famous last words for a DIY newbie such as myself, perhaps.)
Start in the early morning when it's cool, and stay hydrated.  An electric staple gun is way better than the manual models.

This is a very helpful suggestion, thanks! We're planning a stop in Oahu during our next trip to the States, so I may take some time to visit a home center and see what makes sense to buy and ship back.
Waikiki regularly runs shopping shuttles to Waikele Outlets, which are literally across the street from Lowes and a couple miles up the road from Home Depot.  It's probably better to call ahead and get the details on their programs, since their profitability depends on the dollar-yen exchange rate.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2012, 08:53:43 PM »
I hear all of you on the lack-of-insulation thing. Sydney is this way too- I prefer to call my tiny apartment 'well-ventilated'.

I have:
$60 internet
$100 for 260-270 kwh

Electricity is nasty expensive here. It's billed quarterly and they just introduced a carbon tax to already high rates. I don't have heat or AC so I can't even imagine what I'd be paying with those. I just run a front-loading washer, tiny water heater, tiny fridge, and tiny oven and laptops for 2 adults. If I had to guess it's all the hot water since it's one of those ancient half-height tanks. I bought the most energy-efficient washer and fridge that I could when I moved in, but the water tank is the hulking monolith I can't change. At least my partner is Chilean and used to hanging laundry to dry in tiny places so we don't need to use a dryer.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2012, 10:37:05 PM »
That's like $0.38 per kwh, is that right? Ouch, that's even worse than Tokyo, which is at about $0.36 to 37 per kwh. (Which was recently increased to help cover expenses for the nuclear cleanup fun and the extra expense of importing lots of new oil and natural gas to cover electricity shortages from shutting down all [now "most"] of the nuclear power plants.)  I guess that explains why I hear that Australia has a high rate of installation of home solar electric systems.
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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2012, 10:33:53 PM »
Yes we have it bad in Sydney. I'm on a variable rate, prices just gone up to 9.6c/kwh off peak and 47.77c/kwh (!) in peak hours. My total usage is about 230kwh/quarter (2.5kwh/day) but this doesn't include gas hotwater. There's a natural limit you approach in your quest for reduction, I can't go any further without turning off my fridge/freezer.

Worked out the carbon tax is costing me 10c a day. Ho hum. Small price to pay to do our bit to save the planet. Never seen so much political fuss over nothing.




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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2012, 05:04:17 PM »
Not sure how useful this information is but it relates to the last few posters.... I just read my friends gas bill for Sydney and it's insane. For a gas stove and tankless water heater the bill came in at $117 for 2.5 months. Bloody hell..... Back home that can pay for a few months in the fall with a gas furnace, stove and hot water heater.


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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2012, 10:51:03 PM »
Yeah gas hot water, shower for 1 daily, it works out to be about $90/qtr for me, split virtually equally between a fixed daily connection charge and the MJ usage charge. (Megajoule for the non metricated people here)





 


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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2012, 01:45:19 PM »
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Megajoule for the non metricated people here
Even the US uses metric units for electricity, but since we're the US we can't use them in a correct or sensible manner. Oddly, though, we have kilowatt*hours instead of megajoules. The measure the same thing, as a watt times a second is a joule. (For the record, a kWh is 3.6 MJ).

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2012, 11:59:41 PM »
I pay a bit in electricity due to comprising with my significant other. (Can't turn off PC because he remotes in, fusses about entertainment center; won't get a smart strip). So-

Electric- $40 a month
Water - $50 a month (not too bad, we have a washer/dryer here)
Cable/Internet- $12 a month (I work for a cable company)

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2012, 09:50:00 AM »
cable internet: $47/mo w lowest speed, cable modem rental fee (ugh, should get rid of this).  Need internet connection for working remotely
no cable tv or landline, husband has cell phone through work, my cell is $30/mo
electric averages $63/mo, 2200 sq ft house
gas averages around $60/mo also
water/sewer around $25/mo average
So that's $195/mo total.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2012, 10:46:00 PM »
Not too low damn rental suite!

Electricity average $57 mo for the year
Gas $70/mo
Water included in property tax.  This is for a 2400 sf house with me, wife, renter plus his gf.  I charge him a flat 50/mo for utilities.  If it was not for that I'd be even more irritated that he constantly leaves lights on and runs 3 computers 24/7.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2012, 10:30:21 AM »
Awww geez!   I have a long way to go to earn my mustache!


Cable/internet -- $63
long distance -- less than $20
water/garbage -- $48
electricity -- $80-90 in winter, $150 in summer
natural gas -- $35-50 in summer, $350 during peak cold months

Way too much!!!!

We are selling our house and moving cross country this spring for dh's dream job.  Our next house will be much, much smaller and more efficient. 

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2012, 09:33:48 AM »
Our home is all-electric which contributes to a whopper of an electric bill.  We also recently had a 10% increase in water rates and have a large fixed fee added to our sewer bill to pay for a new water treatment facility.  We compensate a bit by having no cable/telephone bill and super-cheap cellphone service.  We also play Cox Cable and AT&T U-verse off of each other every year, getting intro rates from one, then switching back to the other once the intro rates expire.

TV: $0/month for beautiful HDTV from an attic-mounted antenna
Internet: $30 for 12Mbps down/1.5Mbps up service
Phone: $0/month for ooma VOIP, $5 + $5/month for two prepaid cell phones
Water/sewer/garbage: $80 (2-year monthly average $79.61)
Electric: $125 (2-year monthly average is $124.03, February and August are killers; house is 2400sft with 10ft ceilings to heat/cool :-( )

Total: about $250/month, holy cow!

Just (as of 5 minutes ago) signed up for variable-rate electricity and the utility's free programmable thermostat (has built in monitoring of pricing, e.g. can be set to never run during peak) which gets us access to lower electricity prices most of the day.  Also getting a new hot water heater soon.  Hope those can bring the electric down a bit.  For the water bill I try to shower at work (work at a uni that has a gym) after my bike ride in to campus, but garbage and sewer are both big fixed-cost contributors.


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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2012, 11:11:06 AM »

Electric: $125 (2-year monthly average is $124.03, February and August are killers; house is 2400sft with 10ft ceilings to heat/cool :-( )


Don't feel bad. We only have a 1300 square foot house with 10 foot ceilings, a gas water heater, and our average has been $141/month!
Our worst month is August, where we used 1364 kWh (down from 1722 the August before).

I bought 2 smart strips a couple of weeks ago, bought a few more CFL and LED bulbs, turned off the dry heat function on our dishwasher, and tried to limit my dryer usage. I just got our October bill and brought our daily kWh usage down to 19 (577 kWh for the month). It appears our new monthly average is $96/month. We're also about to renovate our house, including spray foam insulation in the attic, new HVAC & ductwork, and energy star appliances.
I can't wait to see how low we can get this bill.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2012, 11:15:55 AM »
... bought a few more CFL and LED bulbs...

Glad you mentioned that, we have three often-used recessed incandescents (probably 75-100W) in the kitchen I keep meaning to replace with CF.  Next trip to Lowe's I will pick some up.  Good luck with bringing your bill down!

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2012, 05:54:26 PM »
I posted here earlier, but wanted to share my electric again since I got the new bill.
Sept: 792 KWH, 35 days, 23KWH daily average, $107.86
Oct: 461 KWH, 27 days, 17KWH daily average, $63.97

5KWH per day difference!!!

I don't have the paper bill yet and the online one doesn't show last Oct, so it's killing me to know how this compares to 2011. The window AC units have been put away, which is normal for this time of year. (the Sept bill includes about half of August). I want to believe that my other efforts made an impact though.
1. Stopped leaving the hall light on for the kids at night. (Installed battery powered, light and motion sensor night lights)
2. Same for kitchen light on dimmer switch - instead of dim.....it's off.
3. Cut cable and therefor returned 2 HD DVR receivers that used to make crunchy computer sounds, even when off.
4. Faithfully turning off the kids entertainment stands at the power strip. Combined: 1 LCD TV, 1 old type TV, 1 Wii, 1 PS3, 1 DVD/VCR combo.
5. Nagging and following everyone around the house, shutting stuff off.
6. Vacuumed inside the back of the fridge. (This was stupendously BAD! I deserve a broken fridge, I probably cleaned it in the nick of time).

I tried killing the living room entertainment at the strip, but it's too irritating to my husband.

I hope my efforts are paying off and it's not just because of the AC absence, they were lightly used.

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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2012, 06:03:19 PM »
I'll skew the numbers high:

1650 sq ft house. 3/4 well insulated (one entire side doesn't have blown-in insulation yet), new furnace (oil) last year. Family of 5 (kids from toddlers to teens), telecommuter in the house all day.

Boston suburbs.

Electric: just got it DOWN to $116 (700 kwh). Still use the dryer (new, electric) but use a spinner. $40 a month drop since using the spinner and getting a new dryer (both will pay for themselves in 9 months at this rate). Next step: line drying.
Water/Sewer: $55-60 (we don't use a lawn sprinkler and still can't get this lower!). I do a lot of washing (see above) and we eat nearly every meal at home, so cooking/dishes add up.
Oil: about 30 gallons a month average (hot water and heat), @ 4.30/gallon = $129/month. Can't get gas ($25K to extend the lines).
Internet: $117 (husband telecommutes and needs the 25/25 FIOS. We have tried to bring it down. We write it off but resent the cost.)
Cell phone: $8 (Net10)
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Re: How low are your utility bills?
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2012, 06:32:34 PM »
Last month's bill:

Electricity: $67.10
Natural Gas: $34.43
Water: $29.43
Wastewater: $30.13
Garbage and recycling: $11.41
Energy rebate $8.68

So, with tax, last month was $168.90

Keep in mind, I'm in Canada though, so my natural gas is about to increase a lot.

We are 2 people in a 1700 sq ft house, with decent windows.

Let me pull one from last winter for a comparison:

February 2012:
Electricity: $96.99
Natural Gas: $95.80
Water: $23.14
Wastewater: $24.98
Garbage and recycling: $11.79
Energy rebate $8.40

So, total $244.30 all in, and that was a warm winter month!