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Chris Pascale

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Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« on: December 22, 2020, 04:28:35 PM »
After sharing my house-selling details last month I wrote up some of the details for a friend, and it led to us having a discussion that turned into this piece for the Grumpus Blog.

https://grumpusmaximus.com/worth-your-life/

Hope it helps anyone thinking of making some changes, though the truth is that this community was part of what got me here.
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Re: Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2021, 08:14:51 PM »
Loved the article. Small quibble: After a career in sales, I'm positive the saying is "10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag." It's one of my favorites.

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2021, 07:49:28 AM »
Good article to make you think.  In the last few years, as dishes get broken or my kids end up with stacks of them in their rooms, I find that there are none in the size I need in the cabinet. What did I do?  I went to that china cabinet and grabbed one.  I find that I'm doing that more and more.  I mean what the heck.  I own those dishes and they still work.  It's not like I need to replace the dish fluid or install new dish brake pads every 20 years.  In going through boxes in our basement.....some left over from our last move in 1992, I'm, finding stuff we can use.  An unopened box of forks.  A couple matching dishes to those that used to reside in the cabinets and are now likely under a pile of dirty kid laundry next to the gaming setup.  Out of the box and up to the dish washer.

I also realized that I need to get myself into "give away" mode.  I know legos bring money on the interwebs but I ain't got time for that.  I know a forum of collectors/users and have decided I'm going to put together a 20 pound box and offer them for the price of shipping.

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2021, 08:15:22 AM »
Nice article!

Right now, having young kids, it's really hard to pare stuff down. We have bins full of clothes for all seasons (3 boys) that won't be gone until we have #4 (if we decide to do so). Same with age-appropriate toys. As much as I'd like to freecycle them, it's hard to find the stuff my kids really like to play with without spending a lot of $.

But more to the point of the article, it really got me thinking - it's just awful that as a society (at least in the US), we don't have many great ways to 'properly' dispose of stuff, especially when it's so damn easy to acquire stuff. I know plenty of people who are just glad to throw everything in the garbage but it just seems so wrong to do so. And yet, if I want to, say, get rid of a broken TV (kids like to throw shit at TV's)- I have to drive myself 10 miles/20 minutes to the county waste collection site, which also only happens to be open when I'm working and for 4 hours on a Saturday.

I think this is why most people have so much stuff. It just comes in, and then never leaves because we don't know what to do with it all. Purging it feels like being a contestant on the "Biggest Loser" - during a purge, it's really easy to get rid of stuff that's long sat around because you've dedicated mental energy and time to the task at hand, but slowly it all starts to come back without even thinking about it - keeping the junk away is almost a lifelong task, something that you must commit to and not let slip.

I know plenty on this forum have an easier time keeping things away (as in the OP's article, living in a small space is an easy shield), but for the average person in this country, it's probably not something so easily accomplished.

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Re: Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2021, 12:31:43 PM »
Loved the article. Small quibble: After a career in sales, I'm positive the saying is "10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag." It's one of my favorites.

Oh, sonuvabitch! How could I screw that up?

Thank you, kind sir!
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Re: Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2021, 12:41:57 PM »
Nice article!

Right now, having young kids, it's really hard to pare stuff down. We have bins full of clothes for all seasons (3 boys) that won't be gone until we have #4 (if we decide to do so). Same with age-appropriate toys. As much as I'd like to freecycle them, it's hard to find the stuff my kids really like to play with without spending a lot of $.

But more to the point of the article, it really got me thinking - it's just awful that as a society (at least in the US), we don't have many great ways to 'properly' dispose of stuff, especially when it's so damn easy to acquire stuff. I know plenty of people who are just glad to throw everything in the garbage but it just seems so wrong to do so. And yet, if I want to, say, get rid of a broken TV (kids like to throw shit at TV's)- I have to drive myself 10 miles/20 minutes to the county waste collection site, which also only happens to be open when I'm working and for 4 hours on a Saturday.

I think this is why most people have so much stuff. It just comes in, and then never leaves because we don't know what to do with it all. Purging it feels like being a contestant on the "Biggest Loser" - during a purge, it's really easy to get rid of stuff that's long sat around because you've dedicated mental energy and time to the task at hand, but slowly it all starts to come back without even thinking about it - keeping the junk away is almost a lifelong task, something that you must commit to and not let slip.

I know plenty on this forum have an easier time keeping things away (as in the OP's article, living in a small space is an easy shield), but for the average person in this country, it's probably not something so easily accomplished.

You bring up some good points. Now that my youngest is 9, I'm finding that I can get rid of stuff more easily. For example, her jeans were too tight today, and as I was picking out one pair, then another, I was thinking, wow, someone's gonna get some good jeans because they're like new.

The move really opened our eyes because our cellar was completely full, and as we emptied it out my wife said to me, why did I buy all of that stuff?" I figured we needed it at some point, and some of it was given to us, but she had a lot of regrets, seeing it all as money spent on stuff we didn't really need.

There was a closet tucked away at the top of our steps and it had a lot of art supplies that were in their original packaging. We had board games still in the shrink wrap. how does that even happen?

As it stands, I do think we'll be in a bigger home before the year is out, but I'm looking forward to living with less junk.

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Re: Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2021, 08:29:12 PM »
Loved the article. Small quibble: After a career in sales, I'm positive the saying is "10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag." It's one of my favorites.

Oh, sonuvafbitch! How could I screw that up?

Thank you, kind sir!
Haha, thank you "madam". I spoke to one of my former colleagues today and mentioned this phrase and we both got a good laugh over the mix-up. Shoving five pounds of shit into a ten pound sack would be a piece of cake!

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 05:01:45 AM »
Impressive. Most impressive.

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Re: Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 08:46:02 AM »
Nicely written article, Chris Pascale.

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Re: Got Rid of Nearly Everything
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 06:47:27 PM »
Hey, everyone, thanks for reading.

This was one of those pieces I spent a few weeks on after really mulling it over. While writing it, I was like, yes, this is very good, and then when I hit send, I was like, I'm such a schmuck.

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 10:10:27 AM »
This resonated with me. We recently lost 3 outbuildings to a wildfire here at the ranch, mostly tools, and extra furniture in the guest cabin. As we pondered a replacement building, we had an a-ha moment...we don't need most of that stuff anymore! Many of the tools were acquired remodeling our old house and then building this one. Insurance payout will be used for some of the things we do need, like a new brush cutter, chainsaw, etc. The rest can go in our IRAs. And we can build a smaller replacement shed.

House survived, as we designed it to, but it got a hell of a test. Thankful since it holds the most important stuff, like art we've collected on trips. We built it small (920 sq ft + some attic) partly to ensure we didn't collect too much crap!

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2021, 08:25:58 PM »
Great article -- thanks for linking! I strongly agree with your point about thinking carefully about your choices and priorities.

We've been trying to be more mindful about our full lifecycle obligations for stuff that we buy -- our recycling center takes unusable computer equipment and recycles it, but it's expensive (I think 70 cents/lb).  Lots of things are easy to donate or give away, but electronics are their own special hell to get rid of responsibly.

I actually agree with you, but I want to point out that it's really easy to make fun of designer handbags and shoes, but ... it's kind of an easy target to make fun of fancy women's stuff (and there are situations where women sort of need to be dressed in a certain way, although not necessarily with Dior handbags, etc.). Maybe you could also mock some guy things, in the same paragraph? Monster trucks for people who never actually drive off-road? Tricked out mountain bikes for people who don't do technical riding?

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2021, 09:37:48 PM »

I actually agree with you, but I want to point out that it's really easy to make fun of designer handbags and shoes, but ... it's kind of an easy target to make fun of fancy women's stuff (and there are situations where women sort of need to be dressed in a certain way, although not necessarily with Dior handbags, etc.). Maybe you could also mock some guy things, in the same paragraph? Monster trucks for people who never actually drive off-road? Tricked out mountain bikes for people who don't do technical riding?

Cosign. Not a bag person, or a shoe person, but this kind of knockdown is tired.

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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2021, 03:46:33 AM »
Dude, this is on point! I love your writing!


Just what I needed to read really, bit more oomph to get rid of a few more things. I'm already fairly minimalist (my young daughter and I live in a single bedroom unit, that I put a wall and door in to make two bedroom), and always trying to simplify. But every now and then you forget or stray a bit.


Incidentally the other day I gave away two excellent cases of 2015 wine! I decided that, I just don't drink enough to justify storing it. I never drink at home, and, rarely out of it. If I ever find myself needing a bottle to take to a dinner party, I'll just go buy one (I'm blessed being in South Australia, home to the Barossa Valley, Clare Valley, McLaren Vale...)...not hard to find something thats nice for $20 there and then. Maybe this will be twice a year as I age further into my late 30's?

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2021, 10:18:46 AM »
Great article. Indeed, cost isn't just money: it's time and energy, both mental and physical, all of which are finite. This was a good pep talk to prime me with the right mindset for our annual household purge. If I didn't have it and wouldn't buy it for a dollar, why would I keep it?

I own those dishes and they still work.  It's not like I need to replace the dish fluid or install new dish brake pads every 20 years.
@Car Jack thanks for making me laugh out loud with this!

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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2021, 10:59:16 AM »
Good article.
Like someone mentioned, it gave me a push for early spring cleaning which includes my annual purge.

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2021, 08:26:00 PM »

I actually agree with you, but I want to point out that it's really easy to make fun of designer handbags and shoes, but ... it's kind of an easy target to make fun of fancy women's stuff (and there are situations where women sort of need to be dressed in a certain way, although not necessarily with Dior handbags, etc.). Maybe you could also mock some guy things, in the same paragraph? Monster trucks for people who never actually drive off-road? Tricked out mountain bikes for people who don't do technical riding?

Cosign. Not a bag person, or a shoe person, but this kind of knockdown is tired.

He didn't actually write that it was *women's* Gucci shoes or designer bags. I believe Gucci makes shoes and bags for either sex. Anyone can have too many accessories that cost too much money to the detriment of other, more important, things.

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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2021, 02:15:19 PM »

Since people are talking about divesting themselves of things they don't need I wanted to mention -- consider joining the Buy Nothing Facebook group in your area.
https://buynothingproject.org/find-a-group/

These are local, even micro-local groups where people donate to their neighbors with the greater goal of creating a supportive community that shares resources well.
I joined mine a couple of months ago and the vibe is very, very different than the free pages on craiglist or some of the other free sites I've been on. Mostly people post items, but you can also posts asks for things to have or borrow.

Mine is micro-local, because I'm in a dense neighborhood. I think we're about 8 blocks square, fully walkable, and our page is very active. It is the most genuinely warm and kind Facebook page I belong to. A lot of local people have met and become friends because they were exchanging items.