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Learning, Sharing, and Teaching => Real Estate and Landlording => Topic started by: Lucky Recardito on August 11, 2017, 07:23:30 AM

Title: Chimney replacement: repair or improvement?
Post by: Lucky Recardito on August 11, 2017, 07:23:30 AM
We recently had a crumbling masonry chimney on our 124-year-old two-flat removed and replaced with a simple modern metal chimney. Our property is divided between our owner-occupied section and a rental unit, so I can apply some of this cost toward rental expenses (no matter what, a portion is attributable to our non-rental home, so I'm only looking at a part of the cost in any case).

But I'm scratching my head... should I consider this a repair (and deduct it as-is), or an improvement (and depreciate it)?  A roof repair counts as a repair... but "duct work" is supposed to be capitalized.

Considerations:

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Chimney replacement: repair or improvement?
Post by: YttriumNitrate on August 11, 2017, 09:41:49 AM
  • Cost of the repair was about $2800; amount apportionable to the rental unit is about $1000. I know the cost of the item isn't supposed to matter...
Oh, but the cost does matter...
http://www.rentalsoftware.com/real-estate-income-taxes/2500-de-minimis-safe-harbor/ (http://www.rentalsoftware.com/real-estate-income-taxes/2500-de-minimis-safe-harbor/)
Expense that $1000 if you want.
Title: Re: Chimney replacement: repair or improvement?
Post by: Lucky Recardito on August 11, 2017, 01:07:20 PM
Ah, I totally did not know about this "safe harbor" rule. Thanks!
Title: Re: Chimney replacement: repair or improvement?
Post by: Drifterrider on August 14, 2017, 07:20:54 AM
If a single chimney serves both properties, I'd expense the whole amount to the rental unit.  You can't repair "half" of the shared chimney.
Title: Re: Chimney replacement: repair or improvement?
Post by: Lucky Recardito on August 14, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
My understanding (though I'm new to this, and can be corrected if I'm off-base) is that expenses shared by the building must be apportioned to the rental unit and the owner's unit as a %, by floor space.

It's a 3-story building; I live on the 2nd and 3rd floors w/ the rental on the 1st floor. 1 roof/1 chimney to rule us all. Floor space split is 62%/38% (square footage on 3rd floor isn't as big as the other floors since it's a finished attic). If I fix something in just the rental unit (eg, replace an electrical outlet), I call that a rental expense at 100%. But the chimney (like the basement, the garage, the front porch...) is used by both the rental unit and my unit. If it were a SFH that I owned and occupied, I could not deduct the cost of a repair... so the portion of the chimney that I allocate toward me is not tax-deductible; the portion that I allocate toward the rental is deductible.

Eh?
Title: Re: Chimney replacement: repair or improvement?
Post by: SeattleCPA on August 14, 2017, 04:22:58 PM
If a single chimney serves both properties, I'd expense the whole amount to the rental unit.  You can't repair "half" of the shared chimney.

This isn't right. Sorry.