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Hi everyone,

FIRE is fast approaching and we are hoping to do some slow travel in 2020. That might include a few weeks in the French Alps and I'm looking at language courses.

Have you done an immersion style language course? If so, how did you go about picking a school? I'm not seeing a lot in the way of reviews online.

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 06:07:49 AM »
I did one in Italian when I first moved here to Italy.  I did three weeks of 3 hours a day and then started working at a job where my colleagues didn't speak much English.  It was a steep learning curve to say the least.  I'm glad I had some basis on Italian before I started speaking it every day for work.  It made a huge difference to me that this was not my first foreign language.  I am fluent in another language that I learned as an adult. 

IMO it's good to find a small-ish class and qualified teachers.  You should ask the language schools about class size and teacher qualifications.  Also make sure that there aren't too many English speakers in the class as then you might get lazy and speak English with them.

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 07:49:14 PM »
Some US universities run language programs in different countries, whether through partnering with a non-US university or sending their own instructors over and many of those programs also include a home stay. I did a home stay in Paris for 2 months, taking 6 hours of class a day. At the end, I could argue and write at about a 5th grade level. Ok, maybe 4th grade if I'm honest... But I was also in my 30's when I did it-the younger students picked up much more than I did. There are some schools that welcome older students https://global.undergrad.columbia.edu/studyabroad/map and have arrangements for them. For example, my host family normally had people in their late 20's and older.

https://global.undergrad.columbia.edu/studyabroad/map

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2019, 05:19:29 AM »
I did one in Italian when I first moved here to Italy.  I did three weeks of 3 hours a day and then started working at a job where my colleagues didn't speak much English.  It was a steep learning curve to say the least.  I'm glad I had some basis on Italian before I started speaking it every day for work.  It made a huge difference to me that this was not my first foreign language.  I am fluent in another language that I learned as an adult. 

IMO it's good to find a small-ish class and qualified teachers.  You should ask the language schools about class size and teacher qualifications.  Also make sure that there aren't too many English speakers in the class as then you might get lazy and speak English with them.

Thanks for those tips, they are really helpful. I did notice that one school I was looking at had a good mix of nationalities which would help. I will be staying with my husband which will obviously set us back!

I do have some background in French but I'm hoping this will make me more confident in speaking it, I was way too shy at school and on every trip to France.

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2019, 05:22:37 AM »
Some US universities run language programs in different countries, whether through partnering with a non-US university or sending their own instructors over and many of those programs also include a home stay. I did a home stay in Paris for 2 months, taking 6 hours of class a day. At the end, I could argue and write at about a 5th grade level. Ok, maybe 4th grade if I'm honest... But I was also in my 30's when I did it-the younger students picked up much more than I did. There are some schools that welcome older students https://global.undergrad.columbia.edu/studyabroad/map and have arrangements for them. For example, my host family normally had people in their late 20's and older.

https://global.undergrad.columbia.edu/studyabroad/map

I don't think these will be open to me as an Australian, but thanks for sharing because it might help someone else. I haven't got two months but I hope I'll get a good idea for whether I want to go back and do a really long period like 6 months to a year in a foreign speaking country.

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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2019, 06:19:12 AM »
Hi @Fresh Bread !

I did a year in France when I was a teenager with EF www.ef.co.uk They are a pretty big company and I felt they gave me/my parents loads of support. I highly recommend them.

Key things are:
-small town. This helps you with
    a) pick up only the one accent and sticking to that pronunciation. Sounds silly but I never quite got a british accent because everyone speaks different in London while my French accent is pretty standard.
   b) the culture. People will be more interested and have more time in showing you their culture. You will feel you had the full experience. Plus you'll be able to say you had an true "this and that region" immersion rather than being lost in a big city.
  c) not coming in contact with english. Smaller towns tend to have less people who are fluent in another language. Trust me, you want to learn english, your brain doesn't. Your brain already speaks english and it will kick you back to english everytime. Also, when people see you struggling they tend to switch back to english - mostly for their own benefit, nobody wants to have a slow conversation so they become impatient and do what is easiest. You'll benefit more if everyone you come in contact can't change to another language.

-immersion. Try and think/communicate in the local language as much as possible.

-other students. Again, I cannot say this enough times. Our brain will resist learning and thinking in another language. Portuguese and Spanish speakers will clump together and speak a mix of the two languages badly rather than force themselves to speak English. Entire classes of Russian teenagers come to the UK in the summer, there is a strong chance they'll just speak to each other, because it's easier and it's more fun. They'll end up learning more book English but not getting the benefit of the immersion. It's fine to be in a class with other foreigners, but it's best if they're not all americans/australians/british.

- host family. My host family in France was so lovely and they can be very helpful in explaining you the culture or funny language expressions. It also helps to make you feel part of the community. Also, that's the likely accommodation you will get in smaller towns. My parents did an immersion course as adults and stayed in a host family as a grown up couple. All went fine.

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2019, 07:54:23 AM »
I agree with brunette.  I know so many Italian parents who fork out big bucks for their teens to spend a summer in London only for those kids to hang out the whole time with other Italians.  Small town and host family all the way.

Only problem might be if small town dwellers in that area speak a dialect rather than French.  Not sure if this is an issue in France but here in Italy every town has it's own incomprehensible dialect with it's own grammar.  You need to be in a relatively big town to hear actual Italian being spoken on an everyday level. 

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2019, 10:38:22 AM »
This may be a little late for OP, but you can search on Trip Advisor for immersion classes and reviews. I've been wanting to go to this one for awhile now...http://www.coeurdefrance.com/

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 12:51:40 AM »
This may be a little late for OP, but you can search on Trip Advisor for immersion classes and reviews. I've been wanting to go to this one for awhile now...http://www.coeurdefrance.com/

No it's not too late, I haven't booked! I have been off the forum for a while, just back today.

Thanks to everyone that replied, it's really helpful and I will sort out my trip soon.

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Re: Immersion language courses - Have you done one? How did you choose?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2019, 07:09:27 PM »
Hi there,  I have done several homestays through Frenchtoday.com, when I was living in Europe. There are teachers based all over France. i stayed with Chantal two separate times. I plan to go back in the future and probably stay with other teachers. I have always been limited to one week stays, but as my kids get older, I hope to do longer. Good luck and enjoy. I love France and the French language!!!