Author Topic: Is everyone around you an idiot?  (Read 4692 times)

JGS1980

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Is everyone around you an idiot?
« on: July 18, 2019, 01:49:06 PM »
I'm posting this here to remind me not to judge other's non-mustachian habits.

I do believe some here on this forum may benefit from a nice read as well.

No names named.

Of course, would they even read this essay?

JGS

https://aeon.co/essays/so-you-re-surrounded-by-idiots-guess-who-the-real-jerk-is

Chris Pascale

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Re: Is everyone around you an idiot?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2019, 04:17:41 AM »
"Here we see the jerk in his natural environment."

Thanks. I liked this.

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Re: Is everyone around you an idiot?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2019, 06:18:01 PM »
I'm posting this here to remind me not to judge other's non-mustachian habits.

I do believe some here on this forum may benefit from a nice read as well.

No names named.

Of course, would they even read this essay?

JGS

https://aeon.co/essays/so-you-re-surrounded-by-idiots-guess-who-the-real-jerk-is

Thanks, that was indeed a good read.

I liked author's insight on the mercilessness of the jerk's personality:

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Practical mercy involves letting these imperfections pass forgiven or, better yet, entirely unnoticed. In contrast, the jerk appreciates neither others’ difficulties in attaining all the perfections that he attributes to himself, nor the possibility that some portion of what he regards as flawed is in fact blameless

Like many people, I have a tendency to silently discredit individuals the instant that I recognize an imperfection in their action or speech, thinking to myself "how can I take this person seriously when they did/said X, Y or Z? I recognize that I am imprefect as well, but MY multitude of imperfections are nowhere near as egregious as THEIRS! Of course, the imperfections that are really bad are only committed by people other than me." Isn't that convenient. 

Writing other people off completely for one action/behavior/statement is a pretty horrible thing to do.

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Re: Is everyone around you an idiot?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 02:11:35 AM »
Oh dear.  Do I have to stop giving facepunches?

(I only do that here, of course.  In real life I reserve jerkhood for the local council planners who unaccountably often sometimes disagree with me.)

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Re: Is everyone around you an idiot?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2019, 04:51:00 AM »
It's always good to self reflect on your Jerkiness.  Of course, if you're reflecting - you a likely not a Jerk.


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Re: Is everyone around you an idiot?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2019, 05:59:22 AM »
Reminds me of “If you meet an asshole in the morning, you met an asshole. If you meet assholes all day, you’re the asshole.”

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Re: Is everyone around you an idiot?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2019, 01:41:47 AM »
I'm posting this here to remind me not to judge other's non-mustachian habits.

I do believe some here on this forum may benefit from a nice read as well.

No names named.

Of course, would they even read this essay?

JGS

https://aeon.co/essays/so-you-re-surrounded-by-idiots-guess-who-the-real-jerk-is

It's interesting how this walks along the line that separates the "territories" of philosophy and psychology. Psychology articles on this subject (narcissism, psychopathy,...) usually have a de-responsibilizing tone, whether they are academic articles or blog posts. It gets to the point where behavioural traits associated with immoral conduct are considered disorders to be treated, rather than flaws to be fixed. You'll see claims that it's not somebody's fault if they're a sociopath or a narcissist - since it's a mental disorder - and so one wonders whether there's any room left for responsibility.

This is also visible in the current mainstream discourse about mental illness/mood disorders; indeed, every "flaw in character" is increasingly treated as a "disorder", and those who persist in viewing these disorders as flaws are vilified. (To be sure, my point isn't that psychological interventions should be replaced altogether by moral blame... I'm not going to give any concrete examples because I think this could incite incendiary responses with which I don't want to deal. )

What's striking about this article is that while reading it, I'm not wondering whether I, unfortunately, have a certain personality type or disorder (NPD for instance), or whether somebody or other that I know fits the description. Instead, I'm finding useful applicable moral advice - "Am I doing X? Well, maybe I shouldn't because that makes me a jerk". This is a role that academic psychology cannot have, due to the judgmental aspect. And it's a role that contemporary academic philosophy rarely takes, to my knowledge, but I think an important one.

After all, this article reminds me of the game Psychopath Hunt on Apknite. Highly recommended!

 

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