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Ergonomic Mouse?
« on: September 22, 2016, 02:23:29 PM »
Lately I've noticed my right index finger getting stiff and sore from excessive mouse use. I am currently using a traditional mouse, but apparently I'm at the computer enough to require something more ergonomic. Any suggestions?
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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2016, 12:28:32 PM »
my sister swears by these ones w/ the trackballs

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 03:03:58 PM »
I switched to a trackball for a while until I got tendonitis in my thumb. There is no solution to working on a computer 8+ hours a day unfortunately.
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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2016, 12:22:18 AM »
I use my middle finger to scroll and index finger to click which helped.

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2016, 07:03:17 AM »
when I was riding a cube every day, I had tons of problems with my mouse hand.  I would switch out to various track balls and different shaped mice every month or so.  Had 4 in the drawer to rotate through.

I prefer the track balls, but some people just hate them.  I would go to Best Buy or other such place and feel a few of them.  You can also try using hotkeys more and mouse less.   
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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2016, 07:08:05 AM »
I swear by these - http://ergo.contourdesign.com/US/product/contour-mouse/

I had one at a previous employer and convinced my current employer to buy me one. I NEVER have wrist problems with it after having all sorts of wrist problems with "ergo" mice or normal mice.

I think the key is not having a tiny little thing that your hand gets scrunched up over. Size matters, but smaller is not better at all. It's hard to even find larger mice now, but I find they fit my hand a lot more ergonomically.

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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2016, 07:12:38 AM »
I would look into two different options.

The mouse I use at work is an "ergonomic" vertical mouse.  It takes a little getting used too.  I like it and I don't have finger issues from too much scrolling.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BIFNTMC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The other option I would try is a gaming mouse.  I like these because they are usually oversized, have adjustable sensitivity, and adjustable weighting.  You can really customize the feel and speed of the mouse.  The larger size allows me to rest more of my hand on the mouse, rather than just using my fingers like I tend to do with a normal size mouse.

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2016, 06:58:40 AM »
Thanks for all the suggestions. I can't switch to my non-dominant hand at the moment, because I'm nursing a broken left wrist. I can give that a try in about eight weeks :/

Currently my solution is to scroll with the middle finger, as UK suggested. It seems that scrolling is the primary cause of stiffness in my index finger, so that's working for now. I'll probably try one of the uprights or the contour design suggested by ender. Or maybe both. Having a few to switch out seems like a good idea.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2016, 06:59:36 AM »
Thanks for all the suggestions. I can't switch to my non-dominant hand at the moment, because I'm nursing a broken left wrist. I can give that a try in about eight weeks :/

Currently my solution is to scroll with the middle finger, as UK suggested. It seems that scrolling is the primary cause of stiffness in my index finger, so that's working for now. I'll probably try one of the uprights or the contour design suggested by ender. Or maybe both. Having a few to switch out seems like a good idea.

what I would recommend is sitting with your hands on your desk naturally and see where they land. For me, the "slightly tilted" angle that the countour mouse has is exactly how my hand sits.

The vertical ergo mouse requires my hand to be placed in a position which is not really a natural position.

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2016, 11:20:53 AM »
+1 on gaming mice.

Razer Naga is very nice because it had quite a bit of height to accommodate all the buttons.

The buttons can be useful as well if you figure out a use for them.

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2016, 01:37:38 PM »

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2016, 03:47:59 PM »
Can you switch your mouse to your non-dominant hand?  It's weird at first, but does not take long to get used to.  Then periodically switch back & forth to spread out the usage over both hands.
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2016, 07:07:28 AM »
I would look into two different options.

The mouse I use at work is an "ergonomic" vertical mouse.  It takes a little getting used too.  I like it and I don't have finger issues from too much scrolling.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BIFNTMC/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The other option I would try is a gaming mouse.  I like these because they are usually oversized, have adjustable sensitivity, and adjustable weighting.  You can really customize the feel and speed of the mouse.  The larger size allows me to rest more of my hand on the mouse, rather than just using my fingers like I tend to do with a normal size mouse.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAQRNQ8/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought a different vertical mouse, but I love it now. I have some pains when switching to a regular mouse. Definitely helped me.

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2016, 07:09:24 AM »
Also, on this subject, remap your caps lock to control if you ever use the control key with your left hand.

Your wrists will thank me both now and in 10 years.

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2016, 06:07:34 PM »
I have a vertical mouse for my right hand (dominant side) and I keep a second regular mouse for my left hand to share the load.

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Re: Ergonomic Mouse?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2016, 07:23:46 PM »
Years ago I switched to a Kensington Turbomouse trackball at work.  I use it on the left, though I am a righty.  I am lousy at a normal mouse lefty, but I am fully proficient at CAD work on the left with the trackball.  I have had less issues since, and I'd rather have a bad left than my dominant hand anyway.  Also try a keyboard with no numeric keypad so your mouse is less distance away.
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2017, 01:03:24 PM »
I researched computer mice a few years ago. I think the Logitech G400s is the best mouse on the market and costs ~$50. It's both the most comfortable mouse I've ever used and good by every measure of features and performance.

However, I also used to have my hands and forearms hurt from spending all day on a computer or at a desk. The three biggest things to fix this are:

1) Lower your hands as much as possible. My keyboard tray at work brushes the top of my thighs. Make sure you have a way to keep your screen(s) at a proper height when you do this. So, if you're using a laptop, get an external keyboard and mouse plus a laptop stand.

2) Make your keyboard flat, not tilted up in the back.

3) Most importantly, lift weights. For this specific problem, the best exercises would be heavy deadlifts, neutral grip pullups, chinups, overhead press, and Pendlay rows, in that order of importance. Don't waste your time with wrist curls or hand grippers or bicep curls or anything with dumbbells. Trust me, I've tried all that stuff and found it to be vastly inferior. Lift heavy with a barbell. If you can do more than 5 reps in a set, it's too light, especially for deadlifts. If you get stronger, even shitty ergonomics aren't that big of a deal. To learn how to do this stuff, the StrongLifts website, the book Starting Strength, and various YouTube channels are great to get going as a beginner.

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2017, 02:01:40 AM »
Thanks for all the suggestions. I can't switch to my non-dominant hand at the moment, because I'm nursing a broken left wrist. I can give that a try in about eight weeks :/

Currently my solution is to scroll with the middle finger, as UK suggested. It seems that scrolling is the primary cause of stiffness in my index finger, so that's working for now. I'll probably try one of the uprights or the contour design suggested by ender. Or maybe both. Having a few to switch out seems like a good idea.
Use second hand on down arrows to scroll instead.

Switch hands

Very large trackballs are great! Ahhhh! I had this problem when drafting, too.

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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2017, 01:22:09 PM »
I've been using this for over 2 years and haven't had issues since:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0093H4WT6/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I only paid $36 for it so not sure why the price is now $90. Ebay has them for around $40.


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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2017, 08:46:55 AM »
Can you switch your mouse to your non-dominant hand?  It's weird at first, but does not take long to get used to.  Then periodically switch back & forth to spread out the usage over both hands.

Another vote for this one. I typically mouse with the left hand at work and the right hand at home to distribute the impacts.

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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2017, 08:36:27 AM »
Can you switch your mouse to your non-dominant hand?  It's weird at first, but does not take long to get used to.  Then periodically switch back & forth to spread out the usage over both hands.
This is what I did. Made a world of difference.

I did that but then I developed tendinitis on the left side as well...

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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2017, 11:15:34 AM »
When I was riding a desk all day, I developed problems where my hand would hurt and sometimes spasm.  I switched to my left hand, and soon developed the same problem there.  Then I remember that way back in the day when mice were expensive (Window 3.1 on 386/486), I would use hot keys.  So I went back to hot keys as much as possible, I also learned not to rest my palm on the desk.  A track ball also helps.  I would keep 2 different ones and switch them out every few weeks just to use different parts of my hand. 
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