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When you retired early, how did you resign?
« on: December 20, 2017, 02:02:43 PM »
This probably sounds dumb since I can google and find any number of articles on how to properly resign from various situations, but I have a bit of Stockholm Syndrome with my job and need help.

Situation: I plan to "retire early" sometime in 2018. I likely won't remain that way forever; knowing myself, I'm envisioning a full break for 6 months and then probably introducing some part-time self-employed moneymaking back into the picture. Regardless of all that, I have a well-paid VP-type job that I'll be resigning from in 2018 and I just don't know how to do it. The company has given me tremendous growth opportunities over a long work history there, and I love the type of work I do and my boss. They also love me. However, the organization also has issues that are harming my mental health and, frankly, I am both mentally burned out and have physical health problems from sitting and standing at desks for 21 years.

Complicating my resignation is that I have tried to resign more than once over the years and was pulled back in. It's almost embarrassing at this point, and advice to just be strong and stand my ground probably won't work because the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. I need a real "reason" I can give that sounds legitimate to others. Not health because they are so great that they will just offer to give me lots of time off. Not a break because they are so great that they will offer to rework my job to allow for a break. Not retirement since they will just beg me to stay and do anything they can to make it palatable. Etc. You get it.

I need out permanently and simply do not know how to resign from a great place.

Questions: Has anyone else been in a similar situation? And whether you have or not, if you retired early, what did you say when you resigned?

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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2017, 02:07:01 PM »
It sounds like you need to grow a spine. In place of that, how about something that forces you to leave the area, preferably the country, on a firm date and for a long period of time? Round the world cruise, hike the Camino de Santiago, some volunteer project to restore a crumbling chateau, something. Schedule it, but tickets, put your house up for rent, move your stuff into storage, and then hand in your resignation. Put up as many blocks as possible to falling back into your old life. If your stuff is in storage and your house is rented to someone else, losing $10k deposit on a trip of a lifetime while finding a hotel to live out of just to keep going to work should out a damper on any charitable feelings you have towards your workplace.
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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 02:23:14 PM »
How about just telling them you need a change in your life. The fact that you can actually step away from your job is a personal accomplishment you should not be ashamed of. Maybe you can ďtry it outĒ and in the end donít come back if you are having better results. To have the means to step away when your health is suffering and not do it because of embarrassment or because itís a bit awkward, or you feel guilty, will pale in comparison to really harming your health and knowing you could have done something about it but were too afraid of what others think.  Most people donít have that choice. Nobody in their death bed ever wished they had worked longer. If this is what you really want, do it and donít worry what others think. Itís your life.
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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 02:25:59 PM »
It sounds like you need to grow a spine.

Yes, most assuredly. I used to have one before I started this job--not sure what happened.

In place of that, how about something that forces you to leave the area, preferably the country, on a firm date and for a long period of time? Round the world cruise, hike the Camino de Santiago, some volunteer project to restore a crumbling chateau, something. Schedule it, but tickets, put your house up for rent, move your stuff into storage, and then hand in your resignation. Put up as many blocks as possible to falling back into your old life. If your stuff is in storage and your house is rented to someone else, losing $10k deposit on a trip of a lifetime while finding a hotel to live out of just to keep going to work should out a damper on any charitable feelings you have towards your workplace.

You know, this really could work. I like the idea of a volunteer project, preferably to pet homeless kittens daily. :-) They would probably offer to have a job waiting when I return, but after a year of clarity and separation, it would be much easier to say "thanks, but no thanks" even if I were unable to do it in the moment. (Which I would still try to do--they are just so damn nice it's hard!)

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2017, 02:30:08 PM »
I understand the personal connection. I have fretted about that as well when making job moves or considering my career development. My husband is a good remedy to that because he reminds me that this is cold business and the only person looking out for me is me. I am sure you are important and make good contributions but i am also just as sure that if you were hospitalized tomorrow they would find a way of carrying on without you.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 02:31:53 PM »
How about just telling them you need a change in your life.

I like this wording. And just keep repeating it. (Might help for me to think of it as an invitation. I have no problem saying "thanks but I can't" and just continuing to repeat variations of that for a party or dinner invitation. So why not do the same with a resignation. Perhaps reframing it in that way in my mind would lead to better success.)

The fact that you can actually step away from your job is a personal accomplishment you should not be ashamed of. Maybe you can ďtry it outĒ and in the end donít come back if you are having better results. To have the means to step away when your health is suffering and not do it because of embarrassment or because itís a bit awkward, or you feel guilty, will pale in comparison to really harming your health and knowing you could have done something about it but were too afraid of what others think.  Most people donít have that choice. Nobody in their death bed ever wished they had worked longer. If this is what you really want, do it and donít worry what others think. Itís your life.

Thanks for saying this. You are right.

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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 02:35:37 PM »
. . . if you were hospitalized tomorrow they would find a way of carrying on without you.

They absolutely would. I think a lot of it (for them) is just that hiring is so hard...they would rather retain the people they have. But yes, they would get over it in a day and figure out their path forward.

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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 03:42:10 PM »
. . . if you were hospitalized tomorrow they would find a way of carrying on without you.

They absolutely would. I think a lot of it (for them) is just that hiring is so hard...they would rather retain the people they have. But yes, they would get over it in a day and figure out their path forward.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 04:27:54 PM »
I left a fairly decent gig.  They tried mightily to get me to stay.  They couldn't understand why someone with potential would walk away at 40.  I told them, "I've discovered that accounting isn't who I am.  It is just something I do for money."  "I like the people I work with and company but I have no passion for this work."  And then I stuck to it.  I still see several folks from the office once a quarter when I schedule "Lunch Bunch".  Even people with director+ titles can get away for four lunches a year during the off months in mid quarter.  Three people have left after me, two to do other things, and one to be a stay at home Mom.  After 5 years of SAHM, she is looking to return to her old employer.  Not because she has passion for the work but because she has passion for the people and "misses adult conversation."

Here's my take: you do what makes you happy for however long it makes you happy.  If you change your mind in the future that is your prerogative.  Leave it a door open with your old employer but be firm that you are taking a least a year away.  You don't need any more explanation that it is what you feel will bring you the most happiness at this time.  If they like you as much as you say, they owe you a year to pursue happiness.  Otherwise, what the hell kind of friends are they really?
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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 04:41:43 PM »
When I put in my notice, there were two people high up in the organization that tried pretty hard to get me to stay, or at least take a sabbatical. I finally just said "I don't need the money." And that was that. I wasn't planning on revealing that, but it seemed like the right thing to say in the moment.

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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 08:40:03 PM »
Itís a variation on a suggestion above, but a few years ago, I took an evening class in French.  In my class was an interesting couple who had applied for visas to live in France for a year. They were preparing to sell or rent out their house here in the U.S. [I donít remember the exact details.)  This was before I had discovered MMM, so I was fascinated at their creative out-of-the-box plans.  I asked them Why? Their answer was the wife had already retired and when the husband retired as planned soon, they wanted to be immediately far enough away so that he couldnít be sucked back by being asked to consult to fix problems.

So there you have it. Other  folks trying to solve the same problem.  Maybe you need to go pet homeless kittens in Paris.

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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 11:12:33 PM »
I didn't say anything about retiring (which at the time I wasn't planning on doing). Just told them I was quitting work to pursue other things (one being travel) for awhile.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 11:18:32 PM »
If the issues that are harming your mental health, and the physical problems of sitting all day, are resolved would you stay? 

If so, tell them about the issues and tell them you are taking leave until they are resolved.

If not, tell them about the issues and enjoy your new found freedom. 

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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 11:20:41 PM »
I asked for a Sabbatical because I wanted to focus on some personal projects.
It was declined, because I wanted a year and best they offered would have been 3 months FMLA.
I then resigned.

I was at that company for most of my career, 18 years, reasonable pay, similary schmancy title as yours.

I gave long notice, so my colleagues would have to bear the burden of me leaving.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2017, 06:55:43 AM »
Escorted out by security.  It was a best case situation, laid off without cause.  UI and severance jackpot.

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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2017, 12:33:33 PM »
I was planning to FIRE anyways, and my new manager's bulliness made the decision much easier. I'd rather not get into that here.

So I did end up quitting. I told people that I was taking a sabbatical, probably for about a year. I was also having a visible skin issue which I attributed to the stress, so I also mentioned getting my health under control as a reason. Some colleagues at work know I was planning on ER so even though I keep using the term "sabbatical" they called me "early retired".

Many were still aghast that I could take off a year and openly wished they could do the same.

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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2017, 01:58:05 PM »
Similar title, similar situation for me.  I didn't say I was retiring.  I said I needed a change and that continuing wasn't good for me and by extension then, wasn't good for the company.  I couldn't give the company my best because I wasn't at my best.  I said I didn't have another job lined up and hadn't been looking for another job and offered to discuss what time frame they'd like to see for a transition (given my position, etc).  I did put some parameters around it, saying that I wouldn't stay longer than six months.  They asked for 2 months and I agreed to it.

At the time, I thought it would probably be a break and I'd end up looking for something different in 3 - 6 months or so.  It has been several years and I haven't looked for another job :).  Instead, I'm "self-employed" as an artist :)))))

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2017, 02:33:43 PM »
Thank you all so much for your replies! I am going to read through everything in detail tonight, maybe with a nice glass of wine in hand, and formulate my plan. Then tomorrow I will make sure my plan still makes sense without wine.

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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2017, 02:39:49 PM »
Thank you all so much for your replies! I am going to read through everything in detail tonight, maybe with a nice glass of wine in hand, and formulate my plan. Then tomorrow I will make sure my plan still makes sense without wine.

Or just drink wine before going into the office and quitting. That way, your state of mind will be the same during the planning and execution phases. Plus, we can always use more Epic FU Money stories for that thread, and partaking in the wine makes me think the story will be more FU-worthy.

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2017, 02:44:42 PM »
If you lay out the reasons you want/have to leave and you get guilted into coming back (no matter how generous the terms), this company doesn't have your best interest in mind, they have their best interest in mind.

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2017, 02:50:55 PM »
Best of luck.

Because no one where I worked ever quit once they were past two years in unless they were of typical retirement age, I dealt with a lot of people trying to convince me I shouldn't quit.  It was honestly the hardest thing about my last week at work. 

My boss asked me once, but I stood strong with him.  But then it was colleagues and students and parents and the union and it was pretty overwhelming.

I'm glad I stuck to my guns and I completely understand how worried you are that they will try to suck you back in.

I did think about the people I'd told here and the support from here helped a lot.  Think of us as your cheerleading squad.  And if necessary and if possible, post here asking us to lend you strength.  I'm sure we can help ease the transition.

ETA: I emailed HR first and asked them not to tell my boss until I had.  That did make it easier somehow.  I felt like since I'd already told the upper echelon I was going, I'd be more likely to stick to my guns.

It was either in my journal or the Class of 2015 thread where I wrote about being sure I would chicken out.  Emailing the letter to HR first helped.
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2017, 03:04:50 PM »
I second the vote for more wine
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2017, 06:07:50 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2017, 06:40:50 PM »
Good advice already.

I quit, and then decided to stay, and then quit, and decided to stay, and then finally quit for good. I could have easily kept going back forever, because it was just too comfortable. And it is hard to explain a firm leaving date when they know you don't have another job. In my situation, my boss and coworkers were like family. But I was ready for something new.

Some ideas--and you might need to tell these to yourself as much as to them:

"I've been so fortunate to work here, but its time to move on."
"I'm ready for something new. This has been a great opportunity, but I'm ready for a change."
"There are other things I want to explore in life. This has been a great company and I have truly loved it here, but I've been here X years and there are many other things I want to do in my short time on this earth."

Just confidently explain your decision and leave it at that. Walk into your boss' office with a resignation letter and a firm but kind explanation. Don't entertain any discussions of you staying. If they protest: "be that as it may, it is time for me to leave," "I really appreciate how much you value me, and I understand why you want me to stay, but it is time for me to move on," "thank you for being so flexible and giving me so many opportunities, but it is time for me to move on to something new." Practice repeating it to yourself as needed!

Once you rip the band-aid off, I bet you'll feel better. It is nice to get in the headspace of "post-work."

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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2017, 08:00:49 AM »
How about this: "This is such a great company, I feel very good about vacating my spot so someone new can join the organization and have the wonderful experience I've had here..."

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2017, 08:50:25 AM »
Thank you all so much for your replies! I am going to read through everything in detail tonight, maybe with a nice glass of wine in hand, and formulate my plan. Then tomorrow I will make sure my plan still makes sense without wine.

Or just drink wine before going into the office and quitting. That way, your state of mind will be the same during the planning and execution phases. Plus, we can always use more Epic FU Money stories for that thread, and partaking in the wine makes me think the story will be more FU-worthy.

Hahaha! We do need more good stories for that thread. That's actually why I need to resign calmly and quietly soon--so I don't end up with an epic FU story on my hands later. But that would certainly make it more interesting.

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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2017, 08:53:14 AM »
Itís a variation on a suggestion above, but a few years ago, I took an evening class in French.  In my class was an interesting couple who had applied for visas to live in France for a year. They were preparing to sell or rent out their house here in the U.S. [I donít remember the exact details.)  This was before I had discovered MMM, so I was fascinated at their creative out-of-the-box plans.  I asked them Why? Their answer was the wife had already retired and when the husband retired as planned soon, they wanted to be immediately far enough away so that he couldnít be sucked back by being asked to consult to fix problems.

So there you have it. Other  folks trying to solve the same problem.  Maybe you need to go pet homeless kittens in Paris.

It is becoming clear to me that I need to have a daily volunteer role petting homeless kittens either in Paris or Maui.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2017, 09:03:17 AM »
If the issues that are harming your mental health, and the physical problems of sitting all day, are resolved would you stay? 

If so, tell them about the issues and tell them you are taking leave until they are resolved.

If not, tell them about the issues and enjoy your new found freedom.

Good question and points. Without providing too much detail, I don't think they can resolve the issues that are harming my mental health--the issues have been around for years and have recently been exacerbated. Regarding the physical issues, I think that is just the reality of the desk job combined with some congenital issues of my own. I do have a Varidesk and fatigue mat, which has really helped a lot, and I do physical therapy and exercise daily to try to reverse the damage, but the truth is that when I go away on vacation, the physical pain just melts away and I'm ready to have that all the time.

This thread has really helped me think it through; it is clearly time to go and 2018 is going to be My Year. The money should be completely lined up to give notice in a few months.

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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2017, 09:12:08 AM »
Similar title, similar situation for me.  I didn't say I was retiring.  I said I needed a change and that continuing wasn't good for me and by extension then, wasn't good for the company.  I couldn't give the company my best because I wasn't at my best. 

That is a really good way to put it. Might be a good backup line if they keep hassling me during my notice period. (They think of it as trying to help both the company and employee, but I think of it as hassling.) Another good backup line may also be what someone else suggested...just flat out saying I don't need the money.

For someone who has a really hard time coming up with the right thing to say in the moment, having all of these lines prepared and figuratively "in my back pocket" will be extremely helpful. Thank you all.

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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2017, 09:25:48 AM »

Once you rip the band-aid off, I bet you'll feel better. It is nice to get in the headspace of "post-work."

Yes, I am certain that two minutes after I walk out on the last day, I'll have no regrets at all.

It is funny how people can be so certain about something but still be so ridiculous about getting there. Objectively I know I won't ever worry about this place again and they won't worry about me. Objectively I know I'm being ridiculous. I'll look back on this thread in a year and think, "good lord". Lol.

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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2017, 10:14:07 AM »

Once you rip the band-aid off, I bet you'll feel better. It is nice to get in the headspace of "post-work."

Yes, I am certain that two minutes after I walk out on the last day, I'll have no regrets at all.

It is funny how people can be so certain about something but still be so ridiculous about getting there. Objectively I know I won't ever worry about this place again and they won't worry about me. Objectively I know I'm being ridiculous. I'll look back on this thread in a year and think, "good lord". Lol.

Your apprehension is normal and healthy.

In my case, I was at the company for 20+ years and had a lot of friendships and good memories of good projects at work. But the truth was that the best managers had already left or been laid off, and the future projects just didn't sound interesting to me. I knew I would be miserable at the actual job stuff. Everything else was great about the job (well except for the commute).

I am newly FIREd and it did freak me out at first. But I knew my current manager was an ass and the project work was boring, and that wasn't going to change.

I left on good terms, even after having to go to HR to complain about the bulliness. It is amazing that they told me I was available for rehire even after all of my complaining. I think HR knew the manager had messed up and I had always had good reviews.

I am loving FIRE so far, as I knew I would.

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« Reply #31 on: December 26, 2017, 03:52:27 AM »
Flip this around. I was an employer for over 25 years with 8 or 9 office people and 25+ all over the country. I had developed relationships with them all and I know alot of them really needed there job. I did try to sell the business to a few of them but that turned into a fiasco. So after a month or two I just said thats it I am closing the doors April 3rd.  I was very unhappy, unhealthy etc.. and hated the job the last ten years and spent most of my time figuring out how not to be there and or it cost me a lot to keep someone to handle things. By delaying I actually lost out on a great buyout offer about 3 years prior because I didn't want my employees to get burned. Long and short of it you have got to think of you well being first and I would just simply say I know in the past I have tried to move on but I need you to respect my decision as I am absolute in leaving. I enjoyed my time here but for many many reasons and plenty of time to think this all out I appreciate you just leaving it at that and excepting my resignation. It simply time for me to move on and I need you to just understand that as I am not moving on to stay in the industry or be in any industry at this point. Thanks for respecting my final decision this time.
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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2017, 04:15:58 AM »
I had the same issue.  I tried to resign after being with the company who gave me a guilt trip.  First they asked me to stay a little longer.  Instead of my two week notice they asked for a one month notice.  Then I had issues with them scheduling meeting with the intent on getting me to stay.  I ended up staying.

The solution for me was finding another job.  One that I wasn't as emotionally attached to.  One that was also not that emotionally attached to me.  Once I gave them two weeks notice and had something lined up they were not able to do much but wish me luck.

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When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2017, 05:12:13 AM »
Have you thought about what you will do when you walk out the door for the last time? Are you going to sit in your house and watch tv and just be a couch potato for a week or two? Then what? Why don't you make a solid plan like joining Habitat for Humanity or book a trip to the pyramids in Mexico. Go to art school. I know a guy who was a scientist and when he retired he bought all kinds of wood working equipment and makes bowls and other stuff and sells them. You could buy or rent an RV and travel the USA to all the national parks. If you have a solid plan, you won't have to feel like you have to make up an excuse. If you have a hobby you could get more involved with that. You can then tell your employer you have the need to volunteer and fix homes for the poor. Or you are going to visit the Pyramids in Mexico and plan to write a book about it after you have done extensive research. Same with the RV/national parks, go to them and write a book. Or if you have a hobby and want to make items to sell. Or buy a food truck and go to all the State fairs and sell food all around the country! Go to Aruba and buy a big boat and start a business like a booze cruise or a Jimmy Buffett lazy lunch cruise.

You must have some burning desire. Find it, plan it, do it. Tell your boss before you are too old to enjoy this new venture, you must leave to do it now and you plan to make it work and you have no plans to return to the job...thank you very much! Get your plans in order on when you plan your new adventure and then give your notice. Tell the boss you start your new venture on such and such a date and that is it! Good Luck!

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2017, 02:06:19 PM »
Do you have an heir apparent for your position? If not, start grooming someone; someone with a "lean and hungry look".  If so, then think of it as leaving the job to give your heir the chance to inherit while things are good.  You won't be leaving them in the lurch, you'll be passing the baton to the next generation who can bring new energy to the role. And you can tell your organization just that.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2017, 07:56:23 PM »
I had the same issue.  I tried to resign after being with the company who gave me a guilt trip.  First they asked me to stay a little longer.  Instead of my two week notice they asked for a one month notice.  Then I had issues with them scheduling meeting with the intent on getting me to stay.  I ended up staying.

The solution for me was finding another job.  One that I wasn't as emotionally attached to.  One that was also not that emotionally attached to me.  Once I gave them two weeks notice and had something lined up they were not able to do much but wish me luck.

I probably could have grown a 'Spine' but there is nothing better than the feeling of being needed.
They ask you for more time, funny.  How did you fall for that one?  After they said we need more notice, I would have said, now you have zero notice and walked out on them.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2017, 06:59:55 AM »
Thatís a nice position to be in.  You obviously could lie, but that doesnít seem right. Look, youíre a VP, youíve had to make lots of tough decisions and communicate tough messages. This is no different. Stand your ground. Tell everyone youíre done and youíre on to the next chapter. The only reason they pull you back is because youíve wanted to be pulled back. Maybe you were nervous about the numbers or you thought youíd be bored? IDK, but it starts and ends with you. As a VP, youíve said no plenty of times, this isnít different. My plan is to pick a date, buy my plane tickets and then negotiate the transition with my end date in mind. Iíll tell them my retirement party is the weekend before I fly out and they are all invited. Commit to your retirement and they will have no choice but to believe you. Give them an opening and they will take it.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2017, 07:16:05 AM »
You obviously love what you do, and fully admit you will probably go back to work soon after FIRE.

Why not just switch to part time, or project based work for a set time period at your current employer right now? If you hate it, then leave for good.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2017, 02:25:00 PM »
Thatís a nice position to be in.  You obviously could lie, but that doesnít seem right. Look, youíre a VP, youíve had to make lots of tough decisions and communicate tough messages. This is no different. Stand your ground. Tell everyone youíre done and youíre on to the next chapter. The only reason they pull you back is because youíve wanted to be pulled back. Maybe you were nervous about the numbers or you thought youíd be bored? IDK, but it starts and ends with you. As a VP, youíve said no plenty of times, this isnít different. My plan is to pick a date, buy my plane tickets and then negotiate the transition with my end date in mind. Iíll tell them my retirement party is the weekend before I fly out and they are all invited. Commit to your retirement and they will have no choice but to believe you. Give them an opening and they will take it.

You are absolutely right about this.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2017, 02:27:45 PM »
You obviously love what you do, and fully admit you will probably go back to work soon after FIRE.

Why not just switch to part time, or project based work for a set time period at your current employer right now? If you hate it, then leave for good.

I need a clean break and a rest for a while, but yes, I hope to leave on good terms so there is the option to do part time or contract work with them later if plans for my own gig don't work out. I've seen others do that there--they are really pretty amenable and flexible.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2017, 09:00:33 AM »
You obviously love what you do, and fully admit you will probably go back to work soon after FIRE.

Why not just switch to part time, or project based work for a set time period at your current employer right now? If you hate it, then leave for good.

I need a clean break and a rest for a while, but yes, I hope to leave on good terms so there is the option to do part time or contract work with them later if plans for my own gig don't work out. I've seen others do that there--they are really pretty amenable and flexible.

Sounds like you now have the exact way to tell them. Just use your own words :)

Congratulations on your accomplishments. Keep us posted.

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Re: When you retired early, how did you resign?
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2017, 09:37:32 AM »
Ugh, I need this. I tried to quit in fall but my boss talked me out of it. He didnít guilt me (totally not his style) he just offered me more flexibility in an already pretty flexible job, and I somehow found myself agreeing to stay a bit longer. I tell myself itís just to pad our savings another $50k or so. I think next time I go into his office it has to be with a hard copy resignation letter in hand.