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« on: December 10, 2015, 07:20:55 PM »
I haven't been here in awhile due to being busy with work and learning the "miles" game.
I'll be retiring sometime this month when my current patient is discharged from services. Hubs will retire in April. It's not early, but that's okay. I'll be 59 and he'll be 65.

Still hard to believe we can do it, but I've crunched numbers and we recently did a financial review with Vanguard. Based on our current NW/expenses, we could increase our expenses 30k a year and still have a greater than 99% success rate at age 100 (not running out of money). 30k? Really? I shop at Save a Lot, Dollar General, and WM.

Those numbers don't include our home which will be going on the market next month. We're looking forward to the next phase of our life, and I really appreciate all the help and advice I've received here!

We do have a big EU trip planned next fall and then will do road trips in the states.

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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2015, 07:23:11 PM »
Congratulations and wishing you the best of luck!

May you have a successful, eventful and enjoyable retirement ;)

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2015, 07:28:52 PM »
W00000000t!

So happy for you.  Keep us updated on (mis)adventures in FIRE.

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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2015, 07:47:49 PM »
Congratulations! Sounds like you plan to have a nomad lifestyle in FIRE. I hope you enjoy all your travels, and find some time to check in here to let us know how it is going.

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2015, 01:26:37 AM »
Congrats!  Sounds like you made it!  :D
I am a former teacher who accumulated a bunch of real estate, retired at 29, spent some time traveling the world full time and am now settled with three kids.
If you want to know more about me, this Business Insider profile tells the story pretty well.
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2015, 02:58:00 AM »
Congratulations! Sounds like you plan to have a nomad lifestyle in FIRE. I hope you enjoy all your travels, and find some time to check in here to let us know how it is going.

Well, not really nomad. My dh doesn't like flying so only the one international "trip of a lifetime". Paying the majority with miles and points will alleviate the guilt. Learning how to save money in tha travel arena will make also trips, even in the US, easier and more enjoyable.

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2015, 03:23:22 AM »
Congrats!  Sounds like you made it!  :D

Thanks for the congrats everyone!

Arebelspy, it seems surreal. The transition from working (which provides self-esteem, purpose, value) to retiring, and the transition from saving to spending is huge. Much more complicated than I thought.  It took me about a year with the first one and the latter will be ongoing.

I'm gradually getting to the point of not minding if my husband buys something not on the list or wastes money on a magazine that he could get free at a library. :). I'm done worrying but will continue to cut corners where we can. Our son commented about now we can buy drinks when we eat out. I told him I'm not so sure about drinks, but it would be nice to eat out once in awhile!

I've learned a lot here though and have really appreciated everyone's input. The last four years we've been able to ramp up savings with 401k, Roths, and taxable contributions. Even at the 'end' it makes a huge difference.

People want to get to FIRE fast, and I understand that, but even the slow and steady approach works. It took us 24 years starting with a negative 40k (hubs). I was a SAHM for 10 years and our average income was 50-60k. Both of us are napkin math people starting out with the rule of 72. Didn't get purposeful or have a specific goal until the last 4 years during which time I found MMM and  Bogleheads.   

It can be done!


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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2015, 03:46:54 AM »

I'm gradually getting to the point of not minding if my husband buys something not on the list or wastes money on a magazine that he could get free at a library. :). I'm done worrying but will continue to cut corners where we can. Our son commented about now we can buy drinks when we eat out. I told him I'm not so sure about drinks, but it would be nice to eat out once in awhile!

Yeah, that can be a tough transition mentally, cause you've been in the other mode for so long!

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2014/05/29/give-yourself-the-gift-of-not-worrying-about-money/

Read this once/mo. for the next 3 months, and then as needed. Doctor's orders. ;)


People want to get to FIRE fast, and I understand that, but even the slow and steady approach works. It took us 24 years starting with a negative 40k (hubs). I was a SAHM for 10 years and our average income was 50-60k. Both of us are napkin math people starting out with the rule of 72. Didn't get purposeful or have a specific goal until the last 4 years during which time I found MMM and  Bogleheads.   

It can be done!

That's awesome, I love that.
I am a former teacher who accumulated a bunch of real estate, retired at 29, spent some time traveling the world full time and am now settled with three kids.
If you want to know more about me, this Business Insider profile tells the story pretty well.
I (rarely) blog at AdventuringAlong.com. Check out the Now page to see what I'm up to currently.

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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2015, 05:07:07 AM »

I've learned a lot here though and have really appreciated everyone's input. The last four years we've been able to ramp up savings with 401k, Roths, and taxable contributions. Even at the 'end' it makes a huge difference.

People want to get to FIRE fast, and I understand that, but even the slow and steady approach works. It took us 24 years starting with a negative 40k (hubs). I was a SAHM for 10 years and our average income was 50-60k. Both of us are napkin math people starting out with the rule of 72. Didn't get purposeful or have a specific goal until the last 4 years during which time I found MMM and  Bogleheads.   

It can be done!

I think there are some really important points here:
1. It is never too late - you made significant progress in your last four years
2. This isn't a race or a contest
3. You don't need a six (seven) figure income to do this!

Congratulations again, and indulge in drinks every once in awhile when you eat out (if you want to) 😉

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2015, 05:21:50 AM »

Still hard to believe we can do it, but I've crunched numbers and we recently did a financial review with Vanguard.

I'm curious -- was this just an online tool you used, or did you consult personally with a Vanguard advisor?  If the latter, what did it cost?

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2015, 05:29:43 AM »
Congrats!

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2015, 05:52:25 AM »
You go!! We all need to retire early so we can enjoy  life while we still can. Awesome!!! Now go out to eat! And order sodas! At least once....

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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2015, 06:43:41 AM »
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It's not early, but that's okay. I'll be 59 and he'll be 65.

Based on our current NW/expenses, we could increase our expenses 30k a year

I just spoke with one co-worker that after visiting financial adviser realized that he worked extra 6 years than needed. To me, that's sad. So your hubby will retire at 65, where he could have been free in his 50s. Truly sad.

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2015, 10:02:58 AM »

Still hard to believe we can do it, but I've crunched numbers and we recently did a financial review with Vanguard.

I'm curious -- was this just an online tool you used, or did you consult personally with a Vanguard advisor?  If the latter, what did it cost?

We've consulted with an Vanguard advisor for the past several years. Our investments have been with them from day one. There's no fee although they do have a financial fee service if you want them to manage things. Essentially, I just wanted a tune up and to know we're on the right track.

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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2015, 10:18:03 AM »
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It's not early, but that's okay. I'll be 59 and he'll be 65.

Based on our current NW/expenses, we could increase our expenses 30k a year

I just spoke with one co-worker that after visiting financial adviser realized that he worked extra 6 years than needed. To me, that's sad. So your hubby will retire at 65, where he could have been free in his 50s. Truly sad.

That's where you're wrong Astro or you're definition of being "free" is different from ours. :).  Because of health issues, my husband needs to work until he is eligible for Medicare.  He has been fine with that and has even considered working longer so that he could cover my health insurance. I told him absolutely not! Even if we didn't need the health insurance, we would not have minded working a few extra years. It allowed us to pay for our son's college and to put 15k toward each of the grandkid's college.  It will also give us a little bit more security in retirement. Neither one of us are planning on going back to work. The last 3 to 4 years, when I went back to work,  we have been able to put 75K a year into savings. That gave us a huge boost.

 It's not like we have been deprived the past 20+ years. We've been able to donate 1K a month the past few years. We've been to Germany and Israel. I went on mission's trips to China and Haiti. Our son went on several mission's trips. My dh went to high school reunions, and we had family vacations in the states.  The last 10 years has been more restrictive,  but that's been because of situational circumstances. Commitment with children and aging parents.

No regrets here!

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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2015, 10:30:07 AM »

I'm gradually getting to the point of not minding if my husband buys something not on the list or wastes money on a magazine that he could get free at a library. :). I'm done worrying but will continue to cut corners where we can. Our son commented about now we can buy drinks when we eat out. I told him I'm not so sure about drinks, but it would be nice to eat out once in awhile!

Yeah, that can be a tough transition mentally, cause you've been in the other mode for so long!

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2014/05/29/give-yourself-the-gift-of-not-worrying-about-money/

Read this once/mo. for the next 3 months, and then as needed. Doctor's orders. ;)


People want to get to FIRE fast, and I understand that, but even the slow and steady approach works. It took us 24 years starting with a negative 40k (hubs). I was a SAHM for 10 years and our average income was 50-60k. Both of us are napkin math people starting out with the rule of 72. Didn't get purposeful or have a specific goal until the last 4 years during which time I found MMM and  Bogleheads.   

It can be done!

That's awesome, I love that.


Oh my gosh, you have no idea how much the article hits home! It's so true and that sense  of freedom, not worrying about every penny, is an incredible feeling and not one I'll ever take for granted. I'll have to read that article more than once a month, and I'm sure my dh will appreciate being able to deviate (a little) from the shopping list. Lol.  Ironically, for months, I had been telling my husband I would feel much better once we sold the house. With the FR,  it clicked that it did not include our home equity, or the money we have in a cash account, and we'd still be just fine.  :)

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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2015, 12:00:09 PM »
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That's where you're wrong Astro or you're definition of being "free" is different from ours. :).  Because of health issues, my husband needs to work until he is eligible for Medicare. 

Sorry, I din not know there was health issues involved. I see to many people working extra years to retire with 150K/year budget. They are trading the healthiest years in their life for extra money that is not needed if they live frugally.

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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2015, 12:06:48 PM »
The ACA has opened up the possibility of RE for so many.  I know it did for us.  I just hope it doesn't get gutted.

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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2015, 12:44:10 PM »
The ACA has opened up the possibility of RE for so many.  I know it did for us.  I just hope it doesn't get gutted.

Well, when the OP was in his 50s, the ACA didn't exist so I guess the Obamacare came too late. But now, it's so much easier to retire with health problems.

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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2015, 12:50:45 PM »
Fantastic news and well done!

Yes the transition from a firehose of income to spending your stash is not easy. Even worse is figuring out what value you have without a job or profession.

Ask me how I know..:)

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2015, 12:57:58 PM »
We did consider ACA and we could probably get our income low enough where we would qualify for subsidies but then we wouldn't be able to do Roth conversions and we want to do as much as possible before drawing SS. We're fairly frugal (with room for improvement).  Our living expenses are around 48K, BUT that includes giving around 12k a year. Still have 14 and 16 year old cars, but will go to one new vehicle when we start road trips. :)

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2015, 01:03:17 PM »
Fantastic news and well done!

Yes the transition from a firehose of income to spending your stash is not easy. Even worse is figuring out what value you have without a job or profession.

Ask me how I know..:)

From the guy who retired, but not for real.  Lol.

 Seriously,  I think people underestimate how difficult the transition can be. Definitely some tears here and told hubs I wasn't sure if I was ready. I needed the last 6 months of mental and financial preparation.  Knowing that my husband wants to do some traveling in retirement, it has helped tremendously learning how we can do that reasonably.   

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2015, 01:04:11 PM »
Congratulations!!  I love your attitude.

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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2015, 10:29:47 AM »
Congrats and Enjoy!!

 

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