Author Topic: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE  (Read 10265 times)

Misstachian

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Re: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2019, 10:40:22 AM »
I just saw this show about a Rock 'n' Roll band.  They went through the usual tale of alcohol, drugs, women problems, deaths, etc.  The band eventually cleaned up its act and toured for another 20 years or so.

I got to thinking, why?  Don't any of them have the sense that when all that money is coming in, put it aside, quit and do something else?

Do famous rich people get stuck in a rut like the rest of us where we should quit and walk away, but some kind of inertia needs to be defeated in order to do this?

I guess a few times in my life I've run into people and ask why they don't quit and have received the answer, "That's all I know."

I've seen people be hired out of retirement to become contractors.  It wasn't about the money.  It was something else, but we didn't broach the subject.  I'm thinking if people put too much into a job during their working years, they've been shaped by that time and it's kind of a sad thing.  Maybe, its not good to make light of this sense of purpose question.

I donít think youíre necessarily wrong, but Iím not sure youíre taking love/passion into account? Like, if I won the lottery, Iíd quit my job. But only mostly. Because the core of my job is working intensively with authors, and Iíd honestly do it for free - on certain passion projects and on my own schedule, for sure, with the annoying bits cut out. I donít think Iíll ever stop deeply engaging with books, and helping authors make them better gives me joy, and yes, a sense of purpose thatís different from my other, non-work feelings of purpose.

So while Iím sure it isnít true in every case, it seems easily possible to me that a contractor or musician might not be in a rut, but genuinely loving aspects of what they do in a way that should perhaps be not pitied but celebrated.

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Re: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE
« Reply #51 on: April 20, 2019, 06:51:43 PM »

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I donít think youíre necessarily wrong, but Iím not sure youíre taking love/passion into account? Like, if I won the lottery, Iíd quit my job. But only mostly. Because the core of my job is working intensively with authors, and Iíd honestly do it for free - on certain passion projects and on my own schedule, for sure, with the annoying bits cut out. I donít think Iíll ever stop deeply engaging with books, and helping authors make them better gives me joy, and yes, a sense of purpose thatís different from my other, non-work feelings of purpose.

So while Iím sure it isnít true in every case, it seems easily possible to me that a contractor or musician might not be in a rut, but genuinely loving aspects of what they do in a way that should perhaps be not pitied but celebrated.

I think you are right.  They have found their sense of purpose and aren't giving it up.  The title of this is How do you keep your sense of purpose post FIRE?  I guess for some of us we've just worked.  It hasn't been a labor of love.  It's been a labor of survival.  I guess there could be a "sense of purpose" after FIRE that would make like ever more satisfying.

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Re: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2019, 03:49:16 AM »
For me, it's hard losing a sense of mastery/competence. Solving problems gives a sense of accomplishment.
The social aspect is quite hard, as I got along well with my colleagues...

2 months since early retirement. I'm struggling a bit to be honest.
I'm single, mid 30s. Most of my friends are very career driven so it's hard to relate for them, starting to feel a bit isolated... Feeling a bit bored, spending too much time on my computer (default activity for me)... I'm putting pressure on myself as well to do "stuff", but end up procrastinating because I don't have a great idea on what to do...

I listened to these 2 podcasts by MadFientists which resonated with me:
https://www.madfientist.com/cal-newport-interview/ -> talks about the sense of mastery
https://www.madfientist.com/tony-interview/ -> he went back to work half-time

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Re: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2019, 07:31:48 AM »
For me, it's hard losing a sense of mastery/competence. Solving problems gives a sense of accomplishment.
The social aspect is quite hard, as I got along well with my colleagues...

2 months since early retirement. I'm struggling a bit to be honest.
I'm single, mid 30s. Most of my friends are very career driven so it's hard to relate for them, starting to feel a bit isolated... Feeling a bit bored, spending too much time on my computer (default activity for me)... I'm putting pressure on myself as well to do "stuff", but end up procrastinating because I don't have a great idea on what to do...

I listened to these 2 podcasts by MadFientists which resonated with me:
https://www.madfientist.com/cal-newport-interview/ -> talks about the sense of mastery
https://www.madfientist.com/tony-interview/ -> he went back to work half-time

In your case, you can go back too work.  The stress should be off since it is optional.

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Re: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2019, 08:02:07 AM »

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I donít think youíre necessarily wrong, but Iím not sure youíre taking love/passion into account? Like, if I won the lottery, Iíd quit my job. But only mostly. Because the core of my job is working intensively with authors, and Iíd honestly do it for free - on certain passion projects and on my own schedule, for sure, with the annoying bits cut out. I donít think Iíll ever stop deeply engaging with books, and helping authors make them better gives me joy, and yes, a sense of purpose thatís different from my other, non-work feelings of purpose.

So while Iím sure it isnít true in every case, it seems easily possible to me that a contractor or musician might not be in a rut, but genuinely loving aspects of what they do in a way that should perhaps be not pitied but celebrated.

I think you are right.  They have found their sense of purpose and aren't giving it up.  The title of this is How do you keep your sense of purpose post FIRE?  I guess for some of us we've just worked.  It hasn't been a labor of love.  It's been a labor of survival.  I guess there could be a "sense of purpose" after FIRE that would make like ever more satisfying.
What I craved in reaching for FIRE was control of my own life. Six years in, it was worth all the effort. I am busy, happy and fulfilled most of the time. While it's not perfect, it is incredibly more fulfilling than work ever was. I love it!

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Re: How do you keep your "sense of purpose" post FIRE
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2019, 09:19:08 AM »

What I craved in reaching for FIRE was control of my own life. Six years in, it was worth all the effort. I am busy, happy and fulfilled most of the time. While it's not perfect, it is incredibly more fulfilling than work ever was. I love it!

I'm sure it will never be perfect.  Maybe Shinyhorse needs more thn 2 months to adjust.  Nice problem to be in.