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Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« on: June 12, 2018, 06:07:12 PM »
I just had the rare opportunity to take a nap.  I went into a deep sleep and woke up very refreshed.

I'm wondering how people's sleep patterns change post-fire.  Do you sleep more, less, about the same?  Do you go to bed later or earlier, sleep in later, etc?

DW and I are planning to FIRE this summer and hope to have better sleep.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 07:12:37 PM »
I'm not yet truly 100% FIREd, but am somewhat there.

I find myself sleeping less than I did before.  But I'm far less tired than when I was on the corporate treadmill.  This is despite the fact that I'm exercising more as well.  I find my sleep is more restful and deeper now I don't have a permanent fog of work stress hanging over me.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 08:52:46 PM »
I sleep a bit later and go to bed about the same time.   I was sleep-deprived before.  Much less so, now.   And when I feel tired, I stop and take a nap.  Life is good.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2018, 07:57:05 AM »
In all honesty, my sleep patterns are probably worse since FIRE.  When I was working, I was always tired at bedtime, knew I had to get up early for work (which encouraged me to go to bed), and had little to look forward to the next day.  I didn't suffer from work dreams at all and usually slept fairly sound. 

Now I often stay up late, knowing I don't have to go to work the next day, and knowing I can probably catch a nap if I need one.  But, if I take a nap, I'm more likely to stay up late, just perpetuating the cycle.  I also wake up early when I am stoked about the upcoming day, usually a road trip or the like, which results in being tired before ever getting on the road.  The one thing I notice is that being tired is less painful than it used to be.  It used to come with a headache, which was just made worse by caffeine.  Now, when I'm tired, I'm just tired, and seem to be able to recharge a bit by relaxing on the sofa for 15-20 minutes.

I'm also recovering from a (hopefully fixed) chronic health problem that severely affected my sleep.  I'm looking forward to some 100% pain free sleep, which I haven't seen in months...

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 10:57:29 AM »
I definitely sleep more, although I go to bed later, (around midnight) but wake up later too (around 10:00).  The one day a week I need to get up at 7:30 is brutal - don't know how I did it for 30 years.  I rarely nap though, generally only if I'm not feeling well.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 02:01:34 PM »
I definitely sleep more, although I go to bed later, (around midnight) but wake up later too (around 10:00).  The one day a week I need to get up at 7:30 is brutal - don't know how I did it for 30 years.  I rarely nap though, generally only if I'm not feeling well.

That is simple, just keep a rythm, every day to bed and up at the same time. And getting to bed early enough. For me it is at 10 pm. Very early, but this is how I manage to get up at 6 am. It takes some weeks, but then the rythm sits.
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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 03:00:07 PM »
Yep, I stay up later and sleep in longer.  Usually sleep till about 8:00, when I was working I was up about 6:00 every weekday.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2018, 08:28:06 AM »
The last several years before FIRE, my sleep pattern gradually got worse.  I would go to be early because I was absolutely exhausted, and I would fall asleep in a nanosecond.  But then I would wake up somewhere between 1:00 and 3:00 am and would have a hard time getting back to sleep.  I'd usually give up and get out of bed by 4:00 or 4:30.  So I was only getting around 5 hours of good sleep, plus a little bit of dozing.  I wasn't thinking about work when I was lying there awake, so I didn't really connect this sleep pattern with work stress.  I just figured it was part of the normal process of getting older and sleeping less.  Afternoons and early evenings were brutal; I felt so tired and sleepy that I couldn't really get much done during those hours. 

For the first month or two after FIRE, my night time sleep pattern stayed about the same, but I was able to give in to the overwhelming sleepiness in the afternoon and take a nap for 1/2 hour to an hour.  Eventually the night time wakefulness went away, and I started sleeping straight through for 7 to 8 hours (except nights when I have to get up to pee - still working on optimizing evening liquid intake).  I still take an occasional nap, but most days I don't feel like I need one.  I'm about 6 months into FIRE now, and I'm sleeping better than I have in years.

So even though I wasn't actively stressing about work stuff when I woke up at night, apparently the work stress was still affecting my sleep patterns.  I'm so happy to be sleeping better now - I had about reached the point where I had just resigned myself to crappy sleep for the rest of my life.
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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2018, 09:39:17 AM »
Wow Monkey Uncle, your pre-FIRE sleep pattern sounds exactly identical to mine (falling asleep almost instantly but waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to get back to sleep, even though not really thinking about work).

I hope my sleep pattern improves post-FIRE as yours eventually did.  I should find out soon.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2018, 09:57:10 AM »
Ironically, I am sleeping less and waking earlier, post FIRE, though it is my first year.  I think less structure is impacting mental cycles, though stress levels are much lower.
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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2018, 12:38:38 PM »
Wow Monkey Uncle, your pre-FIRE sleep pattern sounds exactly identical to mine (falling asleep almost instantly but waking up in the middle of the night and not being able to get back to sleep, even though not really thinking about work).

I hope my sleep pattern improves post-FIRE as yours eventually did.  I should find out soon.

Good luck!
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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2018, 05:41:20 PM »
It definitely depends on the day.  I've been FIRE'd about 10 months now and find that most days I will get up later than I did when I was working.  On the days that I get up earlier, it's usually to make sure that I can have breakfast with my hubby before he heads out the door for work and half the time I end up taking a nap when he leaves.  (Shhh... don't tell him ;-P)  I also stay up a bit later now.

When exciting projects are on deck for the day, I'm up earlier and ready to get things accomplished :-)

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2018, 06:34:15 PM »
My bedtime in general has gotten later since FIRE because I know I have nothing that requires me to be up in the morning, though I do have a daily 8:30am alarm because I hate waking up and feeling like half the day is gone.

I think my sleep pattern is probably a little worse because there are nights where I'll stay up too late and I'm really not a nap person. I have to be REALLY tired to fall asleep during the day. Ive never really had any trouble getting solid sleep though.
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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2018, 05:57:36 PM »
I'm a born early riser so my times for going to bed and getting up didn't change.  Waking up in the middle of the night thinking of things doesn't happen.  On the rare occasions I do wake up I'll just watch a recorded show for an hour or two knowing I can sleep a little later or take a nap.  I never think about being tired.

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Re: Do you sleep more (or less) post-fire?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2018, 02:47:58 PM »
DW and I sleep much more. Looking at my Fitbit records, went from 6-7 hrs a night on average to 7.5-9 per night on average. As we are pretty active everyday now I am not surprised, plus we were both pretty badly burned out. It has only been three months since we fired and the first month and a half was getting ready to sell the home and start full time traveling so I will be interested in seeing what it looks like after 6 months or more.
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