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kaypinkhardhat

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Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« on: August 08, 2017, 06:41:22 AM »
Hi all, I very much enjoy reading all the POST Fire posts. DH and I are a few years away from FIRE, but I was thinking about something this weekend....

We had a long weekend up here, and I feel like I was not productive at all. Yesterday especially, DH had to work, and I was at home, and I did nothing! I had wanted/could have done a bunch of things that would have been productive (some projects around the house, organizing some messy closets, cleaning, cooking, working out). I stupidly got sucked into watching youtube videos, and next thing you know the whole day was gone. 

In reading the post-fire and other posts around this forum, it seems like FIRE types tend to optimize their time...always.

DH and I were way more ambitious, but we seem to be slowing down a bit. For context, I spent the past year living away from home for work, working 60 hr weeks+ 8 hrs of driving most weeks. I was involved with a community theatre in my work location, DH plays hockey, we run an Airbnb in our basement, and before I moved away DH and I both were very active tutors (which involved commuting all over the city). We also used to be a lot more active (did a marathon last year..eww gross).

So I'm not sure if the past few months are just me "re-adjusting" to having free time at home, or if this is my new pace of life? Note that my work pace has dropped drastically as well, and I'm now back to 40 hr weeks, with very low stress at the moment. So it is a lot of reading this forum, and waiting between tasks.

I can imagine a post fire life for us though that may involve kids (which I feel like would make me less lazy), and also being able to focus more on our side hustles, and hobbies, which now go on the back burner. But part of me is concerned that I would get sucked into a "boring" life, that doesn't bring me a lot of joy.

I guess I'm looking for advice from FIREd people, did you find you became more productive in your personal life once you FIREd?

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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2017, 07:05:51 AM »
Posting to follow.

Podcasts that I read about it say that people usually will find a new hobby. No one wants to be bored all the time.
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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2017, 07:42:41 AM »
In reading the post-fire and other posts around this forum, it seems like FIRE types tend to optimize their time...always.

DH and I were way more ambitious, but we seem to be slowing down a bit. 

So I'm not sure if the past few months are just me "re-adjusting" to having free time at home, or if this is my new pace of life? Note that my work pace has dropped drastically as well, and I'm now back to 40 hr weeks, with very low stress at the moment.

About a year ago I moved on from a high stress job that required 80+ hours a week and time away from the family (Like a 9 month deployment....).

Since then I've often had the same feelings you express, am I taking full advantage of this slower pace or am I being lazy?

I think the answer is that it takes us longer to "recharge". As we age, we are like the older re-chargeable batteries that had a "memory". When we were younger, we could take a weekend off and be ready Monday, then we needed a week of vacation, as we age we might need 6-9 months off to fully "top off", and, even when fully charged, we "run down" sooner (at least that's my experience).

Also, stress is a bitch... It takes time to recover from it and sometimes just zoning out is a healthy way to pursue that end.

My advice, develop a schedule and stick to it. You don't have to put it into a calendar or anything but let it develop from a natural process of finding a routine you enjoy. I like to get up, make lunches for family, breakfast for kid, do selected readings, workout, check a few websites and then get to the "work of the day", whatever that might be.

Some might feel constrained from having a regimented flow, I find it frees me up from having to decide what to do next. Heck, you could even put "watch you-tube" on your routine, just limit your viewing time to 30 minutes and when the time is up.... GET UP... Newton's law of inertia and all that.

Best wishes.

(Technically not FIRED yet but in transition and have lots of free time on my hands that simulates post retirement lifestyle).


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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2017, 07:44:04 AM »
OK, so you wasted one weekend watching youtube videos.  Learn from the experience and don't do it again.  Perhaps it would help to keep a journal of your activities and making a list of goals as far as what you would like to do or accomplish instead of just coasting by with no direction.

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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2017, 08:09:46 AM »
You sound like a high achiever. Most folks on this forum are as well. I find that I struggle with slowing down and relaxing. I always feel like I should be doing something. Instead of seeing time spent recharging and relaxing as wasteful I've started looking at it as necessary and healthful. This shift in mindset has helped me actually relax, slow down, and be ready to perform when the time comes. If I'm always on I end up running myself ragged and I am barely functional even though I'm still plugging away.
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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2017, 08:13:31 AM »
Thanks folks!

Infromsea, I totally agree, I'm much more productive with a schedule. Being away from a routine for 14 months means that now we need to figure out what our new routine is! I'm enjoying the free time as it means I'm cooking more at home (a hobby I kind of stopped doing the past year+), and it is nice to relax with the DH. I think I just to find an activity to do 2-3 hours a week so I have a little bit more of a balance between free time and productive time.

GenXbiker, you are very right! I have spent the past year living in a state of limbo, not really focusing on the "what is next". We have a vacation coming which will give us time to figure out what we want to do, and we can dive back in in September.

Plainswalker, Such a good way of looking at it..i'm going to keep that in mind!

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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2017, 08:19:08 AM »
Decompression time is a thing! Don't worry about it until you've done nothing but binge youtube for several months. Personally, I'm nowhere near retirement, but the amount of decompression/recharge time I would like is extensive. I took a week vacation with family, during which I did nothing but eat, swim, lounge on the beach, read novels, hang out with family, and eat some more. And honestly, I could have done it for much much longer. After grad school, I needed at least a few months to be ready to get back into the swing of things. Stressful busy times require a lot of recovery time.

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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 08:41:59 AM »
I have whole weeks where I might not accomplish anything noteworthy other than get out of bed at a consistent time, make it to the gym, and run a few errands.

I spent decades working very, very hard. I started at 15 - and most of my summers off from school weren't even lazy times since I'd ramp up my hours to earn more money. When I first FIREd, I had massive lists of things I needed to do, and felt terrible about not checking things off consistently and staying busy. That, coupled with the last job being pretty terrible about stress and developing some real health issues (both physical and mental) meant I felt guilty about needing to decompress and it took me well over a year. It was only by the second year that I figured out that it's okay to be lazy sometimes. The world will not end, and I'm not going to get fired from my retirement if I sleep in and binge watch some videos for the weekend. And neither will you.

The way I figure it, I earned the right to be lazy some times. If I have things that need doing, I'll figure out a decent timeline and get to them, but I'm not going to set up some schedule where I always need to be doing something "productive" any more. Being lazy and relaxing IS being productive for me since I did so little of it before. Not going to put that pressure on myself ever again.
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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2017, 12:13:31 PM »
You have worked too hard for too long.  When you no longer have to you will probably do nothing for a few months and recharge, then come up with a more sustainable, right for you, level of activity.  It's like accusing someone who has been starving to death of being a glutton because they finally have access to food and are eating.  Right now there is no way to know anything about what your natural, healthy level of activity is because you have probably not lived it since you were 10 years old.

You can trust yourself.  Good luck.

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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 12:32:22 PM »
Leisure has value.  I'm almost at the 5 year FIRE point.  I don't give myself any guff over an unproductive day any longer.  I earned the right to rest on my laurels.
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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 12:52:49 PM »
Thanks all for the feedback, I just need to accept the laze.

To be fair, most of the youtube watching was some cheap eats cooking shows, which are inspiring me to cook delicious things at home.

I think recently it is the fact that I went from a very very hectic work and life schedule, to having relatively nothing to do. It is very odd for me, @MeadowLark you called it (but at 10 I was planning my babysitting/"mother's helper" empire :P). I think I will continue to accept the laze for the next few weeks, without worrying about stuff to much!

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Re: Am I too lazy for FIRE?
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2017, 01:04:24 PM »
Sometimes I even feel a bit guilty about having a relaxing and unproductive weekend. But then I think that I deserve this from time to time, even though there is still a lot to do always.