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« Reply #100 on: August 18, 2017, 09:35:15 PM »
Prolly

I can't even describe the emotions that "word" evokes in my soul.

Is this a regional contraction?  I've seen it multiple times on forums, but I've never ever heard it said.  In my area probably is commonly shortened to prob'ly.

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« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2017, 11:29:25 PM »
I've been tempted to use "prolly" for "probably" when I'm texting. I stop myself every time, but it's a slippery slope.
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« Reply #102 on: August 19, 2017, 05:22:21 AM »
Prolly

I can't even describe the emotions that "word" evokes in my soul.

Is this a regional contraction?  I've seen it multiple times on forums, but I've never ever heard it said.  In my area probably is commonly shortened to prob'ly.

I frequent a forum that ha a global participation and I only see prolly.  I really dislike the use of that fake word



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« Reply #103 on: August 19, 2017, 06:51:26 AM »
utilize     should be   use    Thanks MrsWolfeRN

on a daily basis     daily    thanks NoraLenderBe
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at this point in time          now

obligated     obliged.   'Obligation' is a noun from the verb 'oblige', so we see a new verb 'obligated' formed from the noun 'obligation'.

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« Reply #104 on: August 19, 2017, 08:02:37 AM »
This was a fun read.  You all do know that there is a Grammar Nazi thread that has already aired these and more?
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« Reply #105 on: August 19, 2017, 08:08:07 AM »
This was a fun read.  You all do know that there is a Grammar Nazi thread that has already aired these and more?
People need to be reminded we're here, watching, judging.

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« Reply #106 on: August 19, 2017, 08:13:28 AM »
This was a fun read.  You all do know that there is a Grammar Nazi thread that has already aired these and more?
People need to be reminded we're here, watching, judging.

When I taught College and University, I was amazed at the range of writing skills.  Some students were great.  Some needed 4 re-writes to get to the point that their work was comprehensible.  Not good, mind you, just starting to be clear.

I blame spell check for the your/you're, there/their, to/two/too issues.  People get complacent and don't proof-read.

We even have "Weird forum choices" spelled as Weird fourm choices" in Off Topic.
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« Reply #107 on: August 19, 2017, 08:26:09 AM »
This was a fun read.  You all do know that there is a Grammar Nazi thread that has already aired these and more?
People need to be reminded we're here, watching, judging.
ok, that made me laugh!

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« Reply #108 on: August 19, 2017, 10:23:46 AM »
This was a fun read.  You all do know that there is a Grammar Nazi thread that has already aired these and more?
People need to be reminded we're here, watching, judging.
ok, that made me laugh!

So did this:

We even have "Weird forum choices" spelled as Weird fourm choices" in Off Topic.

Oh, my kingdom for a better MMM Forum search engine! There are so many new threads started when a perfectly useful one is currently in existence, but not easily located.
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« Reply #109 on: August 20, 2017, 10:12:54 AM »
This thread is great!

I'd like to add "needs <done>" where people miss out the "to be" part, e.g. a car needs moved / this needs done by Friday / the room needs cleaned.

Also, management-speak in my workplace, where you can tell who is in the top inner circle by their excessive use of the phrase "the reality is..." right before giving an excuse for why things aren't better.




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« Reply #110 on: August 20, 2017, 10:22:27 AM »
I'd like to add "needs <done>" where people miss out the "to be" part, e.g. a car needs moved / this needs done by Friday / the room needs cleaned.

On a related note, I'll add "because <reason>" where people leave out the "of." For example, "I need to move my car because hailstorm." Or, "Our kitchen is in a shambles because remodeling."

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« Reply #111 on: August 21, 2017, 05:54:40 PM »
I'd like to add "needs <done>" where people miss out the "to be" part, e.g. a car needs moved / this needs done by Friday / the room needs cleaned.

On a related note, I'll add "because <reason>" where people leave out the "of." For example, "I need to move my car because hailstorm." Or, "Our kitchen is in a shambles because remodeling."


The first example might be a regional thing. West Virginia/Pennsylvania and perhaps other places. I agree, it sounds odd.

Second example is because hipster-speak. Or because irony.

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« Reply #112 on: August 22, 2017, 07:46:41 AM »
I'd like to add "needs <done>" where people miss out the "to be" part, e.g. a car needs moved / this needs done by Friday / the room needs cleaned.

On a related note, I'll add "because <reason>" where people leave out the "of." For example, "I need to move my car because hailstorm." Or, "Our kitchen is in a shambles because remodeling."


The first example might be a regional thing. West Virginia/Pennsylvania and perhaps other places. I agree, it sounds odd.

Second example is because hipster-speak. Or because irony.

Yes, I suspect the "needs washed" etc. construction might be regional.  My husband used this and didn't realize it was incorrect until he was an adult in graduate school...years later, he still sometimes pauses and self-checks his grammar to see that he's constructing the sentence correctly.   I'm not sure if he picked it up from family or from the Pacific NW region where he grew up.  However, the only other person I've heard regularly using it (a podcaster) was also from the PNW, so...

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« Reply #113 on: August 22, 2017, 10:30:55 AM »
I'd like to add "needs <done>" where people miss out the "to be" part, e.g. a car needs moved / this needs done by Friday / the room needs cleaned.

On a related note, I'll add "because <reason>" where people leave out the "of." For example, "I need to move my car because hailstorm." Or, "Our kitchen is in a shambles because remodeling."


The first example might be a regional thing. West Virginia/Pennsylvania and perhaps other places. I agree, it sounds odd.

Second example is because hipster-speak. Or because irony.

Yes, I suspect the "needs washed" etc. construction might be regional.  My husband used this and didn't realize it was incorrect until he was an adult in graduate school...years later, he still sometimes pauses and self-checks his grammar to see that he's constructing the sentence correctly.   I'm not sure if he picked it up from family or from the Pacific NW region where he grew up.  However, the only other person I've heard regularly using it (a podcaster) was also from the PNW, so...

The first example is definitely a Pennsylvania thing, and it may have come from Pennsylvania Dutch.  The second one I've never heard of. 

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« Reply #115 on: August 22, 2017, 10:59:07 AM »
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/needs-washed

Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique. 

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« Reply #116 on: August 22, 2017, 11:07:55 AM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness. 
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« Reply #117 on: August 22, 2017, 11:22:11 AM »
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/needs-washed

Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.
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« Reply #118 on: August 22, 2017, 11:47:16 AM »
Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.
As opposed to a soft grammar Nazi? Gah! Weren't you listening?

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« Reply #119 on: August 22, 2017, 11:57:26 AM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

Or a fan of the West Wing. Thanks, Bartlet.

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« Reply #120 on: August 22, 2017, 12:08:40 PM »
Preventative. Please, just say preventive. Same with orientated; just say oriented.

I have never heard the word "preventive" in my life. I did not know that an alternative to "preventative" existed.

Contrarily, I only started hearing "orientated" a few years ago. It's like nails on a chalkboard. I will remain "oriented" for life, bro-dawgs.
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« Reply #121 on: August 22, 2017, 03:16:36 PM »
"Trial" as a verb. Ugh. Heard it again at a work meeting today. "We are trialing a new product " Why can't we just try it? Or conduct a trial of the product?

I grew up in the Midwest hearing "needs washed" and similar. I knew it was not correct usage, but thought of it as a harmless abbreviation that people use in speech but not writing.

While we are on odd regionalisms I have noticed that people in the north use the word "yet" very strangely. I am used to the "are we there yet" sort of usage to imply something that has not already happened. People here sometimes use in place of "still" to talk about something that is happening already. For example "do you live in Iowa yet?" meaning "do you still live in Iowa?". I find this confusing.

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« Reply #122 on: August 22, 2017, 04:03:22 PM »
"Trial" as a verb. Ugh. Heard it again at a work meeting today. "We are trialing a new product " Why can't we just try it? Or conduct a trial of the product?

I grew up in the Midwest hearing "needs washed" and similar. I knew it was not correct usage, but thought of it as a harmless abbreviation that people use in speech but not writing.

While we are on odd regionalisms I have noticed that people in the north use the word "yet" very strangely. I am used to the "are we there yet" sort of usage to imply something that has not already happened. People here sometimes use in place of "still" to talk about something that is happening already. For example "do you live in Iowa yet?" meaning "do you still live in Iowa?". I find this confusing.

Wasn't "yet" used like that a few centuries ago?  The dictionary still has that meaning.  It does sound odd though.  All the old uses I've seen put the "yet" before the verb like "Dost thou yet live in Iowa?"

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« Reply #123 on: August 22, 2017, 06:36:19 PM »
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/needs-washed

Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

Or a fan of the West Wing. Thanks, Bartlet.

I remember that episode now that you mention it, but no, my grammar issues stem from being taught proper grammar at age 28 then putting it to use in grad school where most of my classmates couldn't write to save their lives.
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« Reply #124 on: August 22, 2017, 07:13:14 PM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

There are lots of us in the wild, we are not unique, we are legion.
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« Reply #125 on: August 22, 2017, 07:50:53 PM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.


Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

No, it bothers me, too.

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« Reply #126 on: August 23, 2017, 06:13:45 AM »
http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/needs-washed

Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.


Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

No, it bothers me, too.

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« Reply #127 on: August 23, 2017, 10:50:29 AM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

There are lots of us in the wild, we are not unique, we are legion.

Commas instead of periods/semicolons, irony?  I can't tell.

There are degrees of unique.  You can have a unique shade of green, or you can just have a unique color altogether.  A unique color is more unique than a new different shade of green.   If you have a bunch of 4's in a row, a 5 is unique.  An tilde is much more unique. 

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« Reply #128 on: August 23, 2017, 11:08:00 AM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

There are lots of us in the wild, we are not unique, we are legion.

Commas instead of periods/semicolons, irony?  I can't tell.

There are degrees of unique.  You can have a unique shade of green, or you can just have a unique color altogether.  A unique color is more unique than a new different shade of green.   If you have a bunch of 4's in a row, a 5 is unique.  An tilde is much more unique.

Those aren't degrees. Those are absolutes in their own right.  You can have a unique shade of green (grammatically, though a shade amongst thousands I wouldn't consider special), but that shade can't be more unique than something else, nor can it be very unique. Something is one of a kind or it isn't. If it isn't, then you need to pick another adjective.
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« Reply #129 on: August 23, 2017, 11:21:04 AM »
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Ok, that makes sense.  DH grew up in Pennsylvania Dutch country, but his Mom is from a small town near Pittsburgh.  Pittsburghese is very unique.

Sorry to use you as an example, but this one bugs the hell out of me. Unique means one of a kind.  You can't have degrees of uniqueness.

Wow, you have to be a hardcore grammar Nazi for that one to bother you.

There are lots of us in the wild, we are not unique, we are legion.

Commas instead of periods/semicolons, irony?  I can't tell.

There are degrees of unique.  You can have a unique shade of green, or you can just have a unique color altogether.  A unique color is more unique than a new different shade of green.   If you have a bunch of 4's in a row, a 5 is unique.  An tilde is much more unique.

Those aren't degrees. Those are absolutes in their own right.  You can have a unique shade of green (grammatically, though a shade amongst thousands I wouldn't consider special), but that shade can't be more unique than something else, nor can it be very unique. Something is one of a kind or it isn't. If it isn't, then you need to pick another adjective.

Agreed.

Unique is a binary word.  It either is or isn't;  on or off;  black or white;  yes or no.  Any word that is binary or absolute should never have an adjective describing how much or to what degree.

In the world of chaos, though, every person has a different truth.  If I were to show a picture of a table, some might think it is only a 7 on a scale of one to 10 on it's "table-ness".  Some might think it is more a 10.  If it were an end-table, the viewpoints would probably change.  A dining room table might be considered more of a table than a cocktail table.  So, are the different degrees of how unique something may be? 

In some ways I think it may be argued otherwise. 

I would say the word "Unique" is about a 9 on a scale of one to ten as far as being a binary word.  Therefore, I would probably argue it is close enough and does not need additional help from the word "very".



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« Reply #130 on: August 24, 2017, 06:02:00 AM »
I would say the word "Unique" is about a 9 on a scale of one to ten as far as being a binary word.  Therefore, I would probably argue it is close enough and does not need additional help from the word "very".

I find it fascinating that you don't seem to have any difficulty in ascribing a scale of 1-10 for degrees of "binary-ness", yet you seem rather certain that there cannot be varying degrees of uniqueness. It would appear that you consider the word "binary" to be non-binary. If you don't hear from me again, my head probably exploded from the irony.

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« Reply #131 on: August 24, 2017, 06:17:45 AM »
"Prolly" has to go.  I agree with that.

"Seriously?" should come to an end, as well.  It's the current generation's "Totally, totally ..."

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« Reply #132 on: August 24, 2017, 07:28:13 AM »
Calling toques "beanies" has to go as well.
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« Reply #133 on: August 24, 2017, 10:22:07 AM »
Calling toques "beanies" has to go as well.

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« Reply #134 on: August 24, 2017, 10:52:21 AM »
"Prolly" has to go.  I agree with that.

"Seriously?" should come to an end, as well.  It's the current generation's "Totally, totally ..."

Toque.

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« Reply #135 on: August 24, 2017, 11:23:00 AM »
"Prolly" has to go.  I agree with that.

"Seriously?" should come to an end, as well.  It's the current generation's "Totally, totally ..."

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« Reply #136 on: August 24, 2017, 11:34:27 AM »
I would say the word "Unique" is about a 9 on a scale of one to ten as far as being a binary word.  Therefore, I would probably argue it is close enough and does not need additional help from the word "very".

I find it fascinating that you don't seem to have any difficulty in ascribing a scale of 1-10 for degrees of "binary-ness", yet you seem rather certain that there cannot be varying degrees of uniqueness. It would appear that you consider the word "binary" to be non-binary. If you don't hear from me again, my head probably exploded from the irony.

Bonus thought: Why aren't irony and steely synonyms?

My point was truth could be in the eye of the beholder.  I was proposing another POV. 

Was the Pacer more unique than the Thing?  I would say they were both unique.  To what degree?  Only the beholder determines his own truth and may think the Pacer is not unique but the Thing is unique. Others may think the one is "more" unique than the other.

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To be clear.  I was only proposing other POVs.  I don't care for people using modifiers on binary terms.  It is unnecessary and not needed.  :)



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« Reply #137 on: August 25, 2017, 09:09:04 AM »
Calling toques "beanies" has to go as well.

Today I learned that "toque" is a real English word.

Well, it is a borrowed word.  But English is full of borrowed words.
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« Reply #138 on: August 25, 2017, 09:47:06 AM »
Calling toques "beanies" has to go as well.

Today I learned that "toque" is a real English word.

Well, it is a borrowed word.  But English is full of borrowed words.

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« Reply #139 on: August 25, 2017, 09:50:33 AM »
headlines starting with Yes or No

i.e.

"No, (opinion other than mine) is not okay"

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« Reply #140 on: August 25, 2017, 09:56:29 AM »
This is mostly on social media, but people who CAPITALIZE THEIR MAIN POINTS and use an excess of EXCLAMATIONS as if it helps make their emotional, irrational, and/or illogical argument any more valid!!!! Because this is SERIOUS!! And important to them!!! How DARE you have a different opinion on this matter!!
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« Reply #141 on: August 25, 2017, 05:15:49 PM »
I thought of another one: relevancy. Again, what's with the extra syllable? Just say relevance.

Any kind of extra words or syllables:

I am wanting to (I want to)
I am looking to (I want to)
I've got to or I have got to (I have to)


And also, for no particular reason:
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« Reply #142 on: August 25, 2017, 08:11:34 PM »
Aioli. Seems to mean crappy burger, salad, mayonnaise etc.

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« Reply #143 on: August 25, 2017, 10:49:15 PM »
* Go Big or Go Home *

What does that really mean? Take the tail pipes off the Harley? Drink all the booze? Spend all the money? It is just so stupid.

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« Reply #144 on: August 26, 2017, 11:40:48 AM »
"have a blessed day".

I'm not religious and I fricking hate when people foist their religions on me. 
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« Reply #145 on: August 26, 2017, 01:07:38 PM »
"I could care less"

+1! When people say "I could care less" I think most people mean "I couldn't care less"

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« Reply #146 on: August 26, 2017, 03:39:18 PM »
"have a blessed day".

I'm not religious and I fricking hate when people foist their religions on me.

Be glad you don't live here.  Everyone from check out clerks to grocery baggers to auto mechanics say that here. Not to mention that a significant fraction of the doctors at the University hospital will end your appointment by asking if they can pray with/over you.  I usually tell them to do so for themselves if it makes the feel good, but honestly? It makes my skin CRAWL.

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« Reply #147 on: August 26, 2017, 06:26:24 PM »
Kids. That is a juvenile goat. The correct word is children.

(Gasp! Oh, no, wait, I'm British, living in Canada. Nobody says child/children).

2.0. 3.0.

No, it's just 2, or 3. 2.1? Sure. 2.174? Ok. 2.0000000000? No. You don't need to (always, every time) say "two point oh!".
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« Reply #148 on: August 27, 2017, 12:54:16 AM »
"have a blessed day".

I'm not religious and I fricking hate when people foist their religions on me.
Oh, but which pronunciation do you hate more?

Bless-said
  - or -
Blest?

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« Reply #149 on: August 27, 2017, 05:04:49 AM »
I wish most of the overused words in my workplace would go away.  Collaborative!  Forward-leaning! The overuse of the semi colon!  In day to day life, the words smoothie, beanie, sweetie... 
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