This is more incomprehensible nonsense. It's like stream of conscious rambling. One can not debate such nonsense so I wont try.
Yea, I am not a Republican either. I enjoy talking about and discussing these issues because arguing with those who don't agree with me is how I refine my understanding.
But refuse to engage and leave the room because you're uncomfortable with defending your position. You're right and so you shouldn't
have to respond, right?
It's OK, the hallmark of being open-minded is hearing others who disagree with you, throwing up your hands, denigrating their character and then leaving the room.
And the fact that the you concede that the Donald isn't stupid enough to believe the birther nonsense is only further proof of him cynically playing to the ignorant (and racist) base of the Republican Party,
It's OK to question where a white person was born, that's just politics, but question where a Hawaiian was born, that's racist? These people aren't racist or being political, they're
crazy.I think I understand your point though. Cherry picking the facts you use to manipulate the conversation, suppressing viewpoints that disagree with you, discrediting anyone who speaks out against you by attacking them and not their arguments, that's not racist and more acceptable...
Than doing the exact same thing as a Republican. It's OK to do it if you're a Democrat. Got it, understand.
It's interesting to me how the cynicism each side feels for the other doesn't immediately turn into cynicism for their own sides too. You see Republicans doing things you feel are reprehensible, and totally ignore Democrats doing the
exact same thing.
If we were to meet, to sit down, have a beer, we'd get along great. What you haven't picked up on through all of this is that it isn't that I disagree with you. I want you to make the same arguments you've been making, but
better.
You don't need to bring up the demographics of the GOP. It's an inherently racist tactic. Because it brings race into the conversation. That's it, that's all there is. You don't "win" by bringing in race and being the most racially diverse party. That's why "I have a black friend" doesn't excuse anything. You "win" by not bringing it up at all. Just be right.
You don't need to bring up past administrations, all of whom have increased the debt. You acknowledge they all increased the debt, agree that is a bad thing, maybe try to make the unmustachian argument that it's OK to do it because interest rates are low. Bringing in bad data from biased sources...it's such a shame the Democrats have stooped to that GOP tactic. It wasn't actually working for the GOP you just thought it was. It's not working for you either. Every time each side gets caught in a lie it drives us all farther away from ever trusting the political class again.
You cannot argue against the Democrats care about winning more than anything else. If they actually cared about the issues they claim to support, we'd have sensible gun control laws, simple tax policy that included a tolerable level of redistribution, a Supreme Court that could be counted on to reliably protect a mother's right to abort her baby but prohibit prisoners from being executed. The war on drugs would be over, every hospital would have a fully funded drug rehab wing, college would be free, and moms and dads would both get 99 weeks off when they have a kid. Foreign aid would've been brought up to reasonable levels and targeted at our nearest neighbors, so the fact that it's a billion degree desert and Mexico is nice too would be all the border security we needed. Social Security would have been fixed, and a plan to restore the trust fund enacted, the legislation that allowed it to be robbed repealed. The right to privacy would be explicitly spelled out as a constitutional amendment.
Instead they've cowered in the dark, afraid to take a stand when they're in the majority because they know it will cost them the next election. And what sucks is that it costs them the next election anyway. They also know their only chance at staying in power is to ensure there are tons of poor people, so they will always aggressively pursue policies aimed at keeping the poor right where they are.
Obama really cared about healthcare, and so he got that one done. All the rest of these could have been done the exact same way, a straight party line vote, but they wanted to have the issues for the midterm.
I remember hearing him speak during the Campaign. It really was awesome. I knew it was bullshit, I knew no major candidate would follow through on his promises, but I really did want to believe. And to his credit I think he believed it when he said it. One day I hope to be sitting in a retirement home next to a former politician, and maybe get a straight answer to this:
Why do you feel that the people who gave money to your campaign are owed favors and access, more so than the people who gave their vote? The money didn't buy you that vote, we trusted you!
Particularly second-term Presidents, why do you give a flying fuck about what they'll say about you in the next election, do what you said you were going to do!
I'm glad Trump is running, there's huge issues within the GOP that they need to resolve. The Democratic party is significantly weakened by not having a decent opponent for 12 years now. I'd like it better if Trump was a Republican instead of a Liberal Democrat Troll, but you take the cards as they come.
It's called the conservative movement because it tends to defend the status quo. When there's things that need to be changed you're going to want progressives to gain traction. When there's things that are pretty awesome you're going to want the conservatives to gain traction. Increasingly, the Democratic party is defending the status quo. It's a strategy for staying in power long term, it is not at all in line with the arguments you've made here.
