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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2015, 07:08:00 PM »
an indulgence perhaps not so justifiable and really not mustachian, I know I'm setting myself up for a face punch.  I was ill last year, through I was better and work and life would go on like normal.  So being a tivo person and mine was barely working anymore, I pulled the trigger when they had an amazing deal on their new ones. I called and the lady said, don't put this out there, but the more expensive one is cheaper than the lower one for lifetime members.  So of course I did it and I could afford it. But then I got sick again, more serious, been out of work a year, it does not look like I will ever be able to be a nurse again. So living on disability and waiting for SSDI.  I had never opened the tivo because I got sick, I called on the off chance I could return it in Sept.  Of course I could not.  I felt so guilty having that, even though it was paid for and I have 0 debt, car paid, mortgage paid and I am very frugal. But my brother hooked it up for me and I love, love, love it.  Especially since I am stuck in bed a lot.  I was never a big tv person, I was a reader.  Reading and complicated tv shows are hard now, a lot of re-reading and re-watching a show to fully "get it".  My old tivo could not hold a show long enough for me to do that.  I love that Netflix and Hulu are in it. I'm trying really hard not to feel guilty, I think it was $450 with lifetime membership and I hardly ever buy something like this.  Actually, I'm done feeling guilty! moving on....

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2015, 07:27:23 PM »
Shoes.  I have a weakness for high quality men's shoes, Allen Edmonds to be exact.  One of the few shoes still made 'old school' by hand in America.

As long as it's not an obsessive collection (like a floor-to-ceiling rotating shoe rack in your 500 sq ft mahogany walk in closet) I'd say high quality shoes are actually mustachian. 

Allen Edmonds shoes will last a lifetime.  Sure, the upfront cost is $300 or so.  But if you rotate them, clean & store them properly, and resole them every several years you'll come out way ahead in the long run vs buying a $100 pair every couple of yrs.  Can't remember exactly, but I think Jacob of ERE has a $300 pair of leather shoes that he takes really good care of.
To be honest, I don't agree with the buy it for life mentality for anything that is worn. Fashion changes so much that anything you buy will go out of fashion if it's around long enough. Styles are touted as timeless, but it doesn't make the cut in reality.

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2015, 08:00:26 PM »
My grand piano.  I was just thinking today about how unmustachian it is.  I will not mention how much it cost, because it was very, very, very expensive.  I couldn't afford the new one I fell in love with, so I bought the same model used with the intent of getting a piano technician to bring it up to full potential (if you don't know about acoustic pianos, a good tech makes all the difference in the world).  It's one of those exercises in patience and incremental improvements, and a huge bill after every session.

But my piano is my joy, and even though it's not at its optimal state, I am so happy every time I sit down to practice!

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2015, 08:28:13 PM »
Shoes.  I have a weakness for high quality men's shoes, Allen Edmonds to be exact.  One of the few shoes still made 'old school' by hand in America.

As long as it's not an obsessive collection (like a floor-to-ceiling rotating shoe rack in your 500 sq ft mahogany walk in closet) I'd say high quality shoes are actually mustachian. 

Allen Edmonds shoes will last a lifetime.  Sure, the upfront cost is $300 or so.  But if you rotate them, clean & store them properly, and resole them every several years you'll come out way ahead in the long run vs buying a $100 pair every couple of yrs.  Can't remember exactly, but I think Jacob of ERE has a $300 pair of leather shoes that he takes really good care of.
To be honest, I don't agree with the buy it for life mentality for anything that is worn. Fashion changes so much that anything you buy will go out of fashion if it's around long enough. Styles are touted as timeless, but it doesn't make the cut in reality.

For me, fashion certainly changes so I have an ever changing sort of minimal (& super low cost or free: read castoffs) wardrobe. But I understand that is not the case for many

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2015, 08:32:26 PM »
an indulgence perhaps not so justifiable and really not mustachian, I know I'm setting myself up for a face punch.  I was ill last year, through I was better and work and life would go on like normal.  So being a tivo person and mine was barely working anymore, I pulled the trigger when they had an amazing deal on their new ones. I called and the lady said, don't put this out there, but the more expensive one is cheaper than the lower one for lifetime members.  So of course I did it and I could afford it. But then I got sick again, more serious, been out of work a year, it does not look like I will ever be able to be a nurse again. So living on disability and waiting for SSDI.  I had never opened the tivo because I got sick, I called on the off chance I could return it in Sept.  Of course I could not.  I felt so guilty having that, even though it was paid for and I have 0 debt, car paid, mortgage paid and I am very frugal. But my brother hooked it up for me and I love, love, love it.  Especially since I am stuck in bed a lot.  I was never a big tv person, I was a reader.  Reading and complicated tv shows are hard now, a lot of re-reading and re-watching a show to fully "get it".  My old tivo could not hold a show long enough for me to do that.  I love that Netflix and Hulu are in it. I'm trying really hard not to feel guilty, I think it was $450 with lifetime membership and I hardly ever buy something like this.  Actually, I'm done feeling guilty! moving on....

I don't believe in feeling guilty or bad for any past purchase. I learn from these things, and will not make the mistake again. Like a oneyear paid in advance gym membership: $600. Keeping in mind I dance elsewhere three days a week- my most favorite thing to do & has been for 15 years. And I love to hike and walk. So I get plenty of exercise already. That was a mistake, but I'll take it as a Reminder i still make mistakes. $600 mistakes ha.

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #55 on: October 03, 2015, 12:48:49 PM »
Cleaning lady (... ducks face punches).  Did w/o because of tight tight financial times for many years. Back to having someone come and my anxiety is much lower. I don't cope well w/ a "dirty" house (e.g. very clean to normal people's standards). Definitely an indulgence. I am willing to do w/o a lot of other things in order to have someone come clean for me.

single mom, two kids, worked FT and spent time cleaning when someone told me about this wonderful woman who only charges $30 for your whole house. Well, it was that even if it meant canceling cable or I was going to lose my mind.  I could barely enjoy the kids.  She was amazing, I gave her so many clients, she never raised my rate.  She started doing my parents, it was a mutual love fest.  We combined homes due to illness, she loves us, we love her, she just shows up for dinner, my dad buys the beer she likes.  She has become one of my mom's closest friends at the end of her life and that's a huge thing.  You never know when an indulgence can bring you so much goodness.

I too am a single mom w/ two kids (I posted the original statement about a cleaning lady). I wish it was $30 per week! Nevertheless, so much happier w/ someone coming. I can cook dinner from scratch now and deal w/ getting kids to/from activities and homework done and occasionally go workout myself. Much better than having all my 'free' time eaten up w/ cleaning.

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #56 on: October 03, 2015, 01:38:18 PM »


I too am a single mom w/ two kids (I posted the original statement about a cleaning lady). I wish it was $30 per week! Nevertheless, so much happier w/ someone coming. I can cook dinner from scratch now and deal w/ getting kids to/from activities and homework done and occasionally go workout myself. Much better than having all my 'free' time eaten up w/ cleaning.
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I was cheap and only had her 2x a month but now with everything gone crazy around here, she comes weekly. One week she does the house, the next she helps my hoarder mom try to get her room in shape.

My BFF and her husband both have very demanding careers, long hours.  They already had a cleaning person but were struggling with limited kid time when they got home from work at 7p, make dinner, clean up and there was 1/2 hr left for the kids.  So they hired a college student who comes and cleans up dinner.  That I could not justify unless I made as much as them, to them it's a negligible amount and adds true quality to their family life

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2015, 07:21:13 AM »
Shoes.  I have a weakness for high quality men's shoes, Allen Edmonds to be exact.  One of the few shoes still made 'old school' by hand in America.

As long as it's not an obsessive collection (like a floor-to-ceiling rotating shoe rack in your 500 sq ft mahogany walk in closet) I'd say high quality shoes are actually mustachian. 

Allen Edmonds shoes will last a lifetime.  Sure, the upfront cost is $300 or so.  But if you rotate them, clean & store them properly, and resole them every several years you'll come out way ahead in the long run vs buying a $100 pair every couple of yrs.  Can't remember exactly, but I think Jacob of ERE has a $300 pair of leather shoes that he takes really good care of.
To be honest, I don't agree with the buy it for life mentality for anything that is worn. Fashion changes so much that anything you buy will go out of fashion if it's around long enough. Styles are touted as timeless, but it doesn't make the cut in reality.

For me, fashion certainly changes so I have an ever changing sort of minimal (& super low cost or free: read castoffs) wardrobe. But I understand that is not the case for many

For clothes, I don't buy 'for life', but definitely 'for longevity'. I don't expect my winter boots to last forever, but I live in Quebec, in the country, and it gets Really Effing Cold November-April. I don't mind spending 150$ for boots that'll keep my feet warm for 6-7 years... (Recommendation: Sorrel, or, if you find them used, Pajar... Not the new Pajar though, they changed their manufacturing and suck hard).

For anything 'basic' (black work pants, white dress shirt, large leather tote, etc), you can assume fashion isn't going to change that quickly, and it's worth buying quality and hand-washing. My white dress shirts (2 of them) have been in the closet rotation for 5 years now, excluding the 6 months of pregnant belly not fitting. Anything 'fashion' (non-classic dresses, patterned pants, jeans in 'this season's cut', that sort of thing) can be bought for pretty cheap... Personally I'm a fan of on-sale Old Navy (because for some reason their cut fits my body type super well if I size down) mixed quality basics (shoes, bags, etc). Today, for example, I'm wearing a good-quality dress shirt (5 years old, looks new, worn at least once every 2 weeks in that time, and originally 50$), black Old Navy pants (12$, fit fine), and cute boots ($$, but bought 5 years ago and worn at least 2-3 times/week from September to May for 5 years, and I still have people stopping me on the street asking me where I got them). Add a handbag (bought in Italy as a souvenir for 150$ on my last trip there 4 years ago and carried every day since... and it still looks pretty much new) and a scarf... Done. There are individual pieces that were $$$, sure, but the key, for me, is that ALL of these wind up being less than 0.50$/wear, even the super-expensive boots and pricy leather bag.

Obviously, YMMV on the worth of that. I'm the kind of lady who wears make-up every day, and the last piece of clothing I wore out (badly enough that the cobbler couldn't fix them for the 3rd time...) was a pair of red slingback heels. Aesthetics MATTER to me (for fashion, but also living in a good-looking house and doing things like plating my food well so that it's aesthetically pleasing...) There are ways to shift a MINOR amount of money into aesthetics for a relatively major impact... It takes time and effort and planning, sure, but it's not necessarily huge amounts of money!

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Re: unmustachian indulgence
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2015, 10:05:40 AM »
I think it is the same for any acoustic instrument.  My mandolin (not quite bottom of the line) was OK, but when I had it restrung and adjusted, the difference was amazing.  If I ever buy a second-hand guitar, the first thing I will do is have it restrung and adjusted. 

And when your piano gives you that much joy, it was worth it.  We are not "cheap frugal" here, we are "optimize the spending to bring greatest happiness frugal" here.

(if you don't know about acoustic pianos, a good tech makes all the difference in the world).  It's one of those exercises in patience and incremental improvements, and a huge bill after every session.

But my piano is my joy, and even though it's not at its optimal state, I am so happy every time I sit down to practice!

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« Reply #59 on: October 15, 2015, 07:35:38 AM »
We are not "cheap frugal" here, we are "optimize the spending to bring greatest happiness frugal" here.

Aint' that the road to happiness, savings, retirement, and the good life?

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« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2015, 11:16:17 AM »
I think it is the same for any acoustic instrument.  My mandolin (not quite bottom of the line) was OK, but when I had it restrung and adjusted, the difference was amazing.  If I ever buy a second-hand guitar, the first thing I will do is have it restrung and adjusted. 

And when your piano gives you that much joy, it was worth it.  We are not "cheap frugal" here, we are "optimize the spending to bring greatest happiness frugal" here.

(if you don't know about acoustic pianos, a good tech makes all the difference in the world).  It's one of those exercises in patience and incremental improvements, and a huge bill after every session.

But my piano is my joy, and even though it's not at its optimal state, I am so happy every time I sit down to practice!

Every guitar player should learn how to change strings, adjust their truss rod, and adjust their bridge at a bare minimum.  It's not hard and can make a tremendous difference to how the instrument feels and plays.  It's essential whenever you change gauge of string too.

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« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2015, 11:33:57 AM »
Is this easier/harder/the same for a guitar and mandolin?  As a beginner I find I am a bit intimidated by things that someone more experienced may find easier.  Plus there are a lot fewer mandolin players out there, so fewer people to ask (of course this means I should be posting this same topic, but for mandolin, not guitar, maybe we are legion).


Every guitar player should learn how to change strings, adjust their truss rod, and adjust their bridge at a bare minimum.  It's not hard and can make a tremendous difference to how the instrument feels and plays.  It's essential whenever you change gauge of string too.

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« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2015, 01:33:16 PM »
Electric guitars are very straight forward.  You need a couple screwdrivers, a good tuner, and some patience.  If you have a floating bridge it might take you a bit longer to work with, but it's not bad at all.  Acoustic guitars usually require a screwdriver and some files.  The concept is the roughly the same for all stringed instruments though.  The only mandolin I've got doesn't have a truss rod, so there's a bit less ability to adjust things with it.  You're stuck with filing/shimming the nut and bridge.

Youtube is a real godsend for this sort of thing.

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« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2015, 10:33:27 AM »
The guy who restrung my mandolin did some major rearrangements on both the nut and the bridge.  The tailpiece was really hard to get off as well.  Next time I should be able to change a string on my own.  I also found a nice Android app for tuning, so as long as I have my phone I can tune.  My DD hates the app name, though, she embarrasses easily on my behalf (it is called gStrings).

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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2015, 12:07:55 PM »
Count me in with the "paying a pro to do my hair" crowd.  I have thin fine graying hair, made worse by my recent illness.  My stylist, Courtney, is a miracle worker.  I just got done on Wednesday and I've gotten nothing but compliments on it.  Worth every penny I pay her.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!