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« Reply #950 on: February 18, 2025, 07:51:34 AM »
The Trump administration is "exporting" hundreds of migrants from countries like Afghanistan and Iran to Panama. Many of them were fleeing political or religious persecution. Their passports and cell phones were taken, and they were denied access to lawyers. They're currently detained in a hotel, while Panama prepares to reopen a migrant camp on the edge of the jungle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/world/americas/trump-migrant-deportation-panama.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

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« Reply #951 on: February 18, 2025, 07:58:02 AM »
I don’t think we need to be too worried about that tbh. An invasion of Canada is how the US ends, I don’t think that’s even in the remote realm of possibility. Trump is not that popular, and it’s not clear that the military would even go along with it given the levels of cooperation and integration between the two militaries. An order to invade Canada could very well fracture the military. The international sanctions that would descend upon the US would create a massive depression that would make the Great Depression look like nothing. Energy costs would skyrocket as energy imports from Canada completely stop, as would the price of food. Mexico would likely lock down their border and send their military there, after all if the US is willing to invade Canada what would they be willing to do to Mexico and all trade between those countries would stop.  The world would like ditch the USD as the currency reserve causing a massive sell on USD and hyperinflation in the US. Turmoil and disruption across the country as the country is plunged into a war that even MAGA doesn’t actually want. Some states may not comply with allowing the military through its borders, like I doubt WA or NY is going to be down with that, michigans entire economy relies on trade with Canada and they would cease to exist and face almost complete unemployment along with a war directly on their borders. It’s literally how we end up with a Canadian federation of Canada + west coast + north east and a USA that is just the south and central red states.

I don’t think there’s actually much strategy regarding the Canada stuff and what he has been saying/doing about Canada is very unpopular. I think it’s literally his ego that he’s mad at Canadians for making fun of him and hates Trudeau because of all the memes about how melania and ivanka look at Trudeau and he’s willing to plunge both countries into a depression over it.

I say this with the most respect possible - but I couldn't disagree with you more. The US 'invading' Canada is a very real possibility, and it's not even that far removed from where we are now.

First, the US military will absolutely do exactly what it's commanded to do. Any defections will be minimal and squashed.

Public sentiment on both sides of the border will be manipulated over time with massive social engineering campaigns.
Trump will first economically isolate Canada to decimate our economy to help this along as well.

I see the US entering Canada without a single shot fired, and taking control of the hydro electric facilities in the great lakes, occupy and take control of the oil sands and uranium mines. This will be sold to the world as a 'special military operation' and it will follow Canada ramping up it's retaliatory response.

However I think the more likely invasion though is Russia invading first. Now that they're done with Ukraine, they will start annexing land in the arctic knowing the US won't do anything and Canada is too weak to defend itself.

We won't put up much of a military resistance . . . but the complaining that you'll have to endure during the occupation will make you suffer dearly.

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« Reply #952 on: February 18, 2025, 09:01:20 AM »
I don’t think we need to be too worried about that tbh. An invasion of Canada is how the US ends, I don’t think that’s even in the remote realm of possibility. Trump is not that popular, and it’s not clear that the military would even go along with it given the levels of cooperation and integration between the two militaries. An order to invade Canada could very well fracture the military. The international sanctions that would descend upon the US would create a massive depression that would make the Great Depression look like nothing. Energy costs would skyrocket as energy imports from Canada completely stop, as would the price of food. Mexico would likely lock down their border and send their military there, after all if the US is willing to invade Canada what would they be willing to do to Mexico and all trade between those countries would stop.  The world would like ditch the USD as the currency reserve causing a massive sell on USD and hyperinflation in the US. Turmoil and disruption across the country as the country is plunged into a war that even MAGA doesn’t actually want. Some states may not comply with allowing the military through its borders, like I doubt WA or NY is going to be down with that, michigans entire economy relies on trade with Canada and they would cease to exist and face almost complete unemployment along with a war directly on their borders. It’s literally how we end up with a Canadian federation of Canada + west coast + north east and a USA that is just the south and central red states.

I don’t think there’s actually much strategy regarding the Canada stuff and what he has been saying/doing about Canada is very unpopular. I think it’s literally his ego that he’s mad at Canadians for making fun of him and hates Trudeau because of all the memes about how melania and ivanka look at Trudeau and he’s willing to plunge both countries into a depression over it.

I say this with the most respect possible - but I couldn't disagree with you more. The US 'invading' Canada is a very real possibility, and it's not even that far removed from where we are now.

First, the US military will absolutely do exactly what it's commanded to do. Any defections will be minimal and squashed.

Public sentiment on both sides of the border will be manipulated over time with massive social engineering campaigns.
Trump will first economically isolate Canada to decimate our economy to help this along as well.

I see the US entering Canada without a single shot fired, and taking control of the hydro electric facilities in the great lakes, occupy and take control of the oil sands and uranium mines. This will be sold to the world as a 'special military operation' and it will follow Canada ramping up it's retaliatory response.

However I think the more likely invasion though is Russia invading first. Now that they're done with Ukraine, they will start annexing land in the arctic knowing the US won't do anything and Canada is too weak to defend itself.

We won't put up much of a military resistance . . . but the complaining that you'll have to endure during the occupation will make you suffer dearly.

Plus our passive-aggressive and snark skills will get well honed.

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« Reply #953 on: February 18, 2025, 09:31:48 AM »
For those who say that the US will not invade Canada:
I am certainly too far away to have an experience based opinion here, so let's just do that "learn from history" stuff, okay?

Can you name me armies that, if ordered by their ruler to have an easy victory, turned around and said  "No!"?

I would say the bare minimum requirement to that is that a definite majority of the army is against their ruler.
So far half of the Americans still like Trump, like what he is doing, and the army is traditionally more traditional, means the amount of MAGAs or not-MAGA but nationalist in there will be higher than in the average population.

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« Reply #954 on: February 18, 2025, 10:35:58 AM »
For those who say that the US will not invade Canada:
I am certainly too far away to have an experience based opinion here, so let's just do that "learn from history" stuff, okay?

Can you name me armies that, if ordered by their ruler to have an easy victory, turned around and said  "No!"?

I would say the bare minimum requirement to that is that a definite majority of the army is against their ruler.
So far half of the Americans still like Trump, like what he is doing, and the army is traditionally more traditional, means the amount of MAGAs or not-MAGA but nationalist in there will be higher than in the average population.

Americans please correct whatever I get wrong.

My understanding is that Congress is required to declare war.  I don't know if this requires a simple majority, or something stronger, like 60 or 66%.

American Presidents have been getting around this by declaring states of emergency and issues of national security.  This is why I was concerned about tariffs in trump's last presidency and also this time - he presents them as issues of national security.  This sets people's minds into accepting that war might be necessary as a last resort.

The Nuremberg trials (remember them?) established that the "following orders" excuse is not a legitimate reason to follow illegal orders.  I wonder how many of the commanding ranks would refuse to follow an order of invasion by their Commander-in-chief?  Given the removal of a high-ranking USCG officer, I can see him gradually removing all the high ranking officers who would refuse illegal orders, until he has left only officers who would follow them.

One bonus result (I am guessing) of Trudeau working with the EU more closely about trade is that it also gives him the chance to strengthen our NATO ties. 

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #955 on: February 18, 2025, 10:49:20 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

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« Reply #956 on: February 18, 2025, 10:57:04 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.

I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

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« Reply #957 on: February 18, 2025, 11:04:09 AM »
These fucking cowards. Where are those who swore a Hippocratic oath on all this?

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« Reply #958 on: February 18, 2025, 11:17:22 AM »
The Nuremberg trials (remember them?) established that the "following orders" excuse is not a legitimate reason to follow illegal orders.

Well, if you're on the losing side that's true.  Nobody on the US side got in trouble for following illegal orders to nuke civilians.

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« Reply #959 on: February 18, 2025, 11:42:07 AM »
These fucking cowards. Where are those who swore a Hippocratic oath on all this?

Probably not sitting in the ministry deciding that stuff. btw. doctors don't do the Hippocratic.

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« Reply #960 on: February 18, 2025, 11:51:17 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.

I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

Same states that want to criminalize abortion don't care if children die after they're born. Typical.

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« Reply #961 on: February 18, 2025, 11:55:17 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.



I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

Well, that's one way to start weeding the apocalyptically stupid out of the gene pool, I guess.

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« Reply #962 on: February 18, 2025, 03:27:42 PM »
Trump rambling off the cuff per usual. He has no idea what Elon's actual employment situation is, and naturally doesn't care. He's also going on a rant blaming Zelensky for the war.

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3liiafvvd2l2v

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1891964624733339999

White House Twitter account ramping up the cruelty of deportations

https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1891922058415603980




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« Reply #963 on: February 18, 2025, 04:40:21 PM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.



I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

Well, that's one way to start weeding the apocalyptically stupid out of the gene pool, I guess.

Yes, but they won't die (mostly), they will just be miserably sick and some will have lifelong damage. Sadly the parents make the decision and the children do the suffering.

Covid often weakens the immune system so those children are even more vulnerable.

No vaccine for scarlet (rheumatic) fever, but there are antibiotics.   How long before we see children suffer through that without help and end up with damaged hearts.

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« Reply #964 on: February 18, 2025, 04:42:47 PM »
Trump just signed a declaration of war against independent government agencies.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-reins-in-independent-agencies-to-restore-a-government-that-answers-to-the-american-people/

Independent and watchdog agencies bend the knee or their budgets are gone.


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« Reply #965 on: February 18, 2025, 05:28:44 PM »
Trump just signed a declaration of war against independent government agencies.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-reins-in-independent-agencies-to-restore-a-government-that-answers-to-the-american-people/

Independent and watchdog agencies bend the knee or their budgets are gone.

Jesus fucking christ. That includes Social Security, the Federal Reserve, CIA, EPA, the Postal Service, National Science Foundation, Securities and Exchange Commission, Office of Personnel Management in charge of all federal employee health care and pensions, and the board that oversees the federal equivalent of a 401k (TSP), among many others.


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« Reply #966 on: February 18, 2025, 05:37:09 PM »
Oh, and the commission that oversees fairness and funding of elections. Let's not forget that one.

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« Reply #967 on: February 18, 2025, 06:00:56 PM »
With Kennedy in health, will childhood vaccines still be available? He is so anti-vaccine and basically anti-medicine.

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« Reply #968 on: February 19, 2025, 05:52:11 AM »
I've figured it out!!!!!  Trump saw a rerun of Canadian Bacon and took it as good political advice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon

I know, the date is February 19, but April 1 isn't that far away.

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« Reply #969 on: February 19, 2025, 05:59:20 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.



I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

Well, that's one way to start weeding the apocalyptically stupid out of the gene pool, I guess.
the problem is that public health is, public. There are going to be a whole number of people who are normally protected by herd immunity who who contract disease get sick, possibly die or have life long disability. The very young, the very old, immunocompromised, pregnant woman. It also will create the breeding ground for even worse variants to develop.
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« Reply #970 on: February 19, 2025, 06:00:40 AM »
Jesus fucking christ. That includes Social Security, the Federal Reserve, CIA, EPA, the Postal Service, National Science Foundation, Securities and Exchange Commission, Office of Personnel Management in charge of all federal employee health care and pensions, and the board that oversees the federal equivalent of a 401k (TSP), among many others.

Oddly enough, the Federal Reserve is excluded if you read the text of the executive order. None of the others are, though.
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« Reply #971 on: February 19, 2025, 06:01:40 AM »
Trump just signed a declaration of war against independent government agencies.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-reins-in-independent-agencies-to-restore-a-government-that-answers-to-the-american-people/

Independent and watchdog agencies bend the knee or their budgets are gone.
with this last eo, why isn't anyone calling for impeachment, treason, court-martial. Surely there has to be at least a few good generals left?

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« Reply #972 on: February 19, 2025, 06:03:53 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.



I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

Well, that's one way to start weeding the apocalyptically stupid out of the gene pool, I guess.
the problem is that public health is, public. There are going to be a whole number of people who are normally protected by herd immunity who who contract disease get sick, possibly die or have life long disability. The very young, the very old, immunocompromised, pregnant woman. It also will create the breeding ground for even worse variants to develope

In the case of this West Texas outbreak, it is significantly impacting a Mennonite community.  They are not anti-vaccine, but do not regularly seek medical care.  The county has a child immunization rate for MMR of just over 80%, down significantly from just 10 years ago.

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« Reply #973 on: February 19, 2025, 06:52:29 AM »
Jesus fucking christ. That includes Social Security, the Federal Reserve, CIA, EPA, the Postal Service, National Science Foundation, Securities and Exchange Commission, Office of Personnel Management in charge of all federal employee health care and pensions, and the board that oversees the federal equivalent of a 401k (TSP), among many others.

Oddly enough, the Federal Reserve is excluded if you read the text of the executive order. None of the others are, though.

When something like the FED was suggested - central bank - it was not done for years (until the next big crisis made it unavoidable so to speak) because of the argument: The US public would never accept a single instance with that much power over their money.
That is why the FED, different to probably all other "state banks" is not a central bank, but a central bank system with several central banks.

I could imagine that government control over that institution does not sit too well with all those "we do not want the central government to interfere" people. Though they probably like it when all the others get under central control, because it's them controling.

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« Reply #974 on: February 19, 2025, 10:38:14 AM »
... ugh.


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« Reply #975 on: February 19, 2025, 10:46:20 AM »
Not that Trump was really looking for a reason to restrict immigration further, but he's invoking public health authority now.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/19/politics/border-health-immigration

Federal agencies restricted from subscriptions to everybody but WaPo and WSJ it looks like.

https://bsky.app/profile/davekeating.bsky.social/post/3lijz7s3gcc2x

Trump doubling down on his anti-Zelensky rant yesterday, this time calling him a dictator and repeating the usual Russian talking points.

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435

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« Reply #976 on: February 19, 2025, 11:05:06 AM »
Trump doubling down on his anti-Zelensky rant yesterday, this time calling him a dictator and repeating the usual Russian talking points.

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435

I was curious about this, it's also on the X mirror: https://nitter.net/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435 if you don't want to give Musk any more revenue.

How the heck can Trump be claiming that Zelensky *started* a war when we saw Russia build up and then roll tanks over the border only three years ago?  And then call Zelensky a dictator? 

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« Reply #977 on: February 19, 2025, 11:21:12 AM »
Trump doubling down on his anti-Zelensky rant yesterday, this time calling him a dictator and repeating the usual Russian talking points.

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435

I was curious about this, it's also on the X mirror: https://nitter.net/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435 if you don't want to give Musk any more revenue.

How the heck can Trump be claiming that Zelensky *started* a war when we saw Russia build up and then roll tanks over the border only three years ago?  And then call Zelensky a dictator?

It's been the MAGA mantra since the war started. Ukraine started the war by not accepting colonization by Russia and Zelensky is this super-corrupt dictator with billions of dollars stashed away somewhere.

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« Reply #978 on: February 19, 2025, 11:24:17 AM »
Even the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board is worried that RFK Jr. will make a measles outbreak in West Texas worse, rather than better.

The Louisiana state health department has decided to stop encouraging mass immunizations. All of them, from polio to measles to tetanus.



I expect we'll see more of that and possibly making schools stop requiring immunizations.

Well, that's one way to start weeding the apocalyptically stupid out of the gene pool, I guess.
the problem is that public health is, public. There are going to be a whole number of people who are normally protected by herd immunity who who contract disease get sick, possibly die or have life long disability. The very young, the very old, immunocompromised, pregnant woman. It also will create the breeding ground for even worse variants to develop.

Yeah, I know (advanced degrees in biology). I should have put sarcasm tag, maybe.

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« Reply #979 on: February 19, 2025, 11:25:47 AM »
Accuse others of what you are guilty of. We have already entered a period where journalists are attacked and impartial media is made to be mistrusted. Same with teachers and academics. Trump eos are now moving to: weakening higher eduction. Suppressing anything other than party live narraratives, with punishment due anyone with independent thoughts. It's a combination of ignorance, misinformation, and critical thinking drowned out by propaganda.
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« Reply #980 on: February 19, 2025, 11:45:34 AM »
The White House just posted an ASMR video of immigrants in chains.

ASMR, if you don't know, are sounds often shared via YouTube. They are supposed to calm and relax people.

So, the White House's official account just shared immigrants in chains and labeled it essentially a relaxing video to watch.

This is sick beyond belief.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/video-of-immigrants-in-chains-handcuffs-shared-as-asmr-by-white-house-leaves-users-in-shock-completely-inappropriate/ar-AA1zmRF2


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« Reply #981 on: February 19, 2025, 11:54:37 AM »
Trump doubling down on his anti-Zelensky rant yesterday, this time calling him a dictator and repeating the usual Russian talking points.

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435

I was curious about this, it's also on the X mirror: https://nitter.net/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435 if you don't want to give Musk any more revenue.

How the heck can Trump be claiming that Zelensky *started* a war when we saw Russia build up and then roll tanks over the border only three years ago?  And then call Zelensky a dictator?

It's been the MAGA mantra since the war started. Ukraine started the war by not accepting colonization by Russia and Zelensky is this super-corrupt dictator with billions of dollars stashed away somewhere.

Wow.  I was out of the loop.  It's crazy. 

I don't suppose there's *any* supporting evidence?
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« Reply #982 on: February 19, 2025, 11:58:19 AM »
Rare good news:  Joe Rogan's podcast has slipped from #1, in favor of a podcast critical of Trump.

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-rogan-dethroned-meidas-touch-podcast-donald-trump-2032673

The show itself, MeidasTouch is at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9r9HYFxEQOBXSopFS61ZWg

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« Reply #983 on: February 19, 2025, 12:10:00 PM »
Trump doubling down on his anti-Zelensky rant yesterday, this time calling him a dictator and repeating the usual Russian talking points.

https://x.com/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435

I was curious about this, it's also on the X mirror: https://nitter.net/ChristopherJM/status/1892244108917248435 if you don't want to give Musk any more revenue.

How the heck can Trump be claiming that Zelensky *started* a war when we saw Russia build up and then roll tanks over the border only three years ago?  And then call Zelensky a dictator?

It's been the MAGA mantra since the war started. Ukraine started the war by not accepting colonization by Russia and Zelensky is this super-corrupt dictator with billions of dollars stashed away somewhere.

Wow.  I was out of the loop.  It's crazy. 

I don't suppose there's *any* supporting evidence?

Of course not.

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« Reply #984 on: February 19, 2025, 12:51:10 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

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« Reply #985 on: February 19, 2025, 12:55:39 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
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February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #986 on: February 19, 2025, 01:04:18 PM »
Well, the courts decided Trump is a king who is not beholden to the law . . . so . . .

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #987 on: February 19, 2025, 01:15:06 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #988 on: February 19, 2025, 01:23:44 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

Honestly, I don't think they do. States rights virtually never comes up anymore when I discuss politics with Republicans. It's pretty much exclusively "Biden did bad things so it doesn't matter what we do" and "I've gotten screwed, so it's time someone else gets screwed."

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #989 on: February 19, 2025, 01:27:35 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

Honestly, I don't think they do. States rights virtually never comes up anymore when I discuss politics with Republicans. It's pretty much exclusively "Biden did bad things so it doesn't matter what we do" and "I've gotten screwed, so it's time someone else gets screwed."

I literally had someone "states rights" me two days ago as an excuse as to why it's okay what Trump is doing because the states can do whatever they want so he's not really hurting anyone.

Evidence, of course, did not change their mind.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #990 on: February 19, 2025, 01:34:35 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

Honestly, I don't think they do. States rights virtually never comes up anymore when I discuss politics with Republicans. It's pretty much exclusively "Biden did bad things so it doesn't matter what we do" and "I've gotten screwed, so it's time someone else gets screwed."

I literally had someone "states rights" me two days ago as an excuse as to why it's okay what Trump is doing because the states can do whatever they want so he's not really hurting anyone.

Evidence, of course, did not change their mind.

It's very hard to pay attention to pesky facts and also support Trump.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #991 on: February 19, 2025, 01:38:12 PM »
It’s impossible to keep up with every horrible thing that is being done to our country and I guess that’s the point. I’m really starting to lose hope that the courts or congress are going to stop him.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #992 on: February 19, 2025, 01:52:02 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

Honestly, I don't think they do. States rights virtually never comes up anymore when I discuss politics with Republicans. It's pretty much exclusively "Biden did bad things so it doesn't matter what we do" and "I've gotten screwed, so it's time someone else gets screwed."

The State's right to do what, exactly? 



hint: it's never an argument about economics

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #993 on: February 19, 2025, 01:52:29 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

Honestly, I don't think they do. States rights virtually never comes up anymore when I discuss politics with Republicans. It's pretty much exclusively "Biden did bad things so it doesn't matter what we do" and "I've gotten screwed, so it's time someone else gets screwed."

I literally had someone "states rights" me two days ago as an excuse as to why it's okay what Trump is doing because the states can do whatever they want so he's not really hurting anyone.

Evidence, of course, did not change their mind.

Fair enough. I haven't heard it used IRL in over a year, so I'd assumed that they'd just given up pretending. Guess not.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #994 on: February 19, 2025, 02:16:21 PM »
The White House posted this on Xitter - that's trying to keep the peace in the dementia unit.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #995 on: February 19, 2025, 03:40:57 PM »
FYI


'Long live the king!' Trump declares himself monarch as he kills NYC traffic program
David Edwards
February 19, 2025

President Donald Trump referred to himself as "king" as he celebrated his decision to pull approvals for congestion pricing on New York City transportation Wednesday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-long-live-king/

States Rights?

LMAO can you imagine anyone actually believing the Republican Party is for states' rights anymore?

But they do, of course. Because they suck down that propaganda like mother's milk.

Honestly, I don't think they do. States rights virtually never comes up anymore when I discuss politics with Republicans. It's pretty much exclusively "Biden did bad things so it doesn't matter what we do" and "I've gotten screwed, so it's time someone else gets screwed."

I literally had someone "states rights" me two days ago as an excuse as to why it's okay what Trump is doing because the states can do whatever they want so he's not really hurting anyone.

Evidence, of course, did not change their mind.

Um, abortion debate?

Also, nearly everything our dear governor did to be a thorn in the side of the Biden administration, they cited states' rights.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #996 on: February 19, 2025, 04:01:54 PM »
Multiple news sites reporting Hegseth is calling for a 40% reduction to the DoD budget between now and 2030. I'll post the memorandum as soon as I can find it.

https://x.com/jenniferjjacobs/status/1892301533833793868

https://x.com/ACapaccio/status/1892311396362203420


MSNBC saying he's about to fire a truckload of Generals and Admirals.

https://bsky.app/profile/kylegriffin1.bsky.social/post/3likrbx6hh22k

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #997 on: February 19, 2025, 04:06:26 PM »
A military purge of any brass not on the Trump train is the end for the US. That's actually how martial law gets declared. Is it even possible for them to fire generals and admirals like that? If it happens I'm ditching all US investments. 
« Last Edit: February 19, 2025, 04:10:03 PM by sixwings »

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #998 on: February 19, 2025, 05:02:18 PM »
“States’ rights” is a euphemism for reinstating slavery.

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Re: Trump 2.0
« Reply #999 on: February 19, 2025, 05:07:57 PM »
“States’ rights” is a euphemism for reinstating slavery.

It was definitely the OG dog whistle. More recently it included abortion rights until half the country said they're fine with keeping it. Suddenly the same GOP started asking for a national ban.

 

Wow, a phone plan for fifteen bucks!