Trump 2.0

[Travis]

Man, the US is really going to be hurt by the total disregard for security that this administration has.

I'm sure we've already been hurt. We just don't know it yet.  Remember boxes of Top Secret files at MAL that the FBI confiscated? He took those files back last month.

There was an article in the Guardian last month suggesting that maybe the Five Eyes wasn't a good idea for the UK.

I hope Canada is considering the information we share with the US very carefully these days.

You should probably just stop. At this point I'm not sure what's worse - that Russian assets are running our government, or that they're discussing everything over text. Remember, this airstrike business is just the one instance where they got caught. Where's there's smoke, there's fire.

[jrhampt]

Wow.  BUT HER EMAILS!!!

[mtnrider]

The National Security Council members planned the airstrikes against the Houthis on Signal app. The group consisted of the VP, SECDEF, NSA, DNI, White House comms, SECSTATE. And one of them accidently invited a reporter from the Atlantic to the conversation. The text chain included policy and communications discussions as well as the intimate details of the actual strike package. NSC and White House confirmed that it happened, but are spinning this as a good example of the cabinet working together rather than, you know, HAVING A TOP SECRET DISCUSSION OVER THE PHONE MIGHT BE A BAD FUCKING IDEA.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/?gift=Cgqh0-mGExsQQ_xEA88IsFBTXcgGKcOJRI1x7WcTigU

https://archive.li/JEYep

I’m reading this article right now. INSANE

Right, this is crazy!  So many things done wrong.

Sadly, this probably won't ding the administration on opsec or even the generic "who do you trust on the military" for voters.

Silver lining: At least they were using Signal instead of Telegram.

[Kris]

Never fear, everyone. I'm sure Tulsi is on the case.

[sixwings]

Never fear, everyone. I'm sure Tulsi is on the case.

TG is going after the journalist for sure.

[Travis]

Trump's company launching an ETF based around crypto.

https://x.com/EleanorTerrett/status/1904279207422607665

[Fru-Gal]

Never fear, everyone. I'm sure Tulsi is on the case.

TG is going after the journalist for sure.

I don’t know Signal. Are there allowed to be invisible group members in a group chat? I assume not. But here’s my thought. Who did they THINK was in the group? Do they have a handler they thought was being included in their texts?

[Travis]

Never fear, everyone. I'm sure Tulsi is on the case.

TG is going after the journalist for sure.

I don’t know Signal. Are there allowed to be invisible group members in a group chat? I assume not. But here’s my thought. Who did they THINK was in the group? Do they have a handler they thought was being included in their texts?

Signal is like WhatsApp in that you can just scroll through the membership. The current theory is that they thought Jamieson Greer was in the group (he's a trade rep).

[LaineyAZ]

For what it's worth, since we're already in the Off Topic space, I was talking yesterday with a female friend in her early 60s. 
She's back on the dating scene after a divorce 2 years ago and one of her dealbreakers is if the guy voted for Trump.

She's finding that most of them did indeed vote for him although they are cagey about answering and take a while to admit it, but they appear surprised that this is a dealbreaker for her.  She's heard comments like, "well, my last girlfriend didn't like him either but we didn't let it come between us" or "well, it's just a difference of opinion, right?" 
The gist of their explanation is geez, it's not personal! 

Even after everything, they can't, or won't, admit that yes it is fucking personal, including if you thought you being a white male meant you were "safe."

[sixwings]

This may be the start of collapse of the Trump administration, you just can't have this many morons running the government and expect the administration to function. Pentagon announced an investigation into this as well.

The next phase is they are going to get so bogged down in so many useless, stupid lawsuits over obviously illegal shit that everything else grinds to a close. Trump EO around the DOJ pursuing anyone who wants to bring lawsuits against the government is basically open season for lawyers. Gunna be a good 4 years for litigation lawyers. 

What happens after that? Who knows!

[bacchi]

Never fear, everyone. I'm sure Tulsi is on the case.

TG is going after the journalist for sure.

I don’t know Signal. Are there allowed to be invisible group members in a group chat? I assume not. But here’s my thought. Who did they THINK was in the group? Do they have a handler they thought was being included in their texts?

Signal is like WhatsApp in that you can just scroll through the membership. The current theory is that they thought Jamieson Greer was in the group (he's a trade rep).

Jamieson Greer vs Jeffrey Goldberg. I can see how that's confusing.

I guess someone glanced at the initials during the invites.

[Travis]

Never fear, everyone. I'm sure Tulsi is on the case.

TG is going after the journalist for sure.

I don’t know Signal. Are there allowed to be invisible group members in a group chat? I assume not. But here’s my thought. Who did they THINK was in the group? Do they have a handler they thought was being included in their texts?

Signal is like WhatsApp in that you can just scroll through the membership. The current theory is that they thought Jamieson Greer was in the group (he's a trade rep).

Jamieson Greer vs Jeffrey Goldberg. I can see how that's confusing.

I guess someone glanced at the initials during the invites.

Several members of the chat were initials-only.

[Travis]

Hegseth blew up at reporters when asked about it, apparently unaware that the National Security Council, State Department, and the White House already confessed that it really happened.

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904309995019411933

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904310173143048327

[the_gastropod]

Judging by the screenshots, they were using the disappearing messages feature in Signal. So in addition to unlawful sharing of classified information, we have the unlawful destruction of records. I hope the Democrats are able to make this an ever bigger deal than Republicans were able to make Obama's tan suit. Every one of the clowns in this Signal thread should be, at the very least, fired.

[Captain FIRE]

The next phase is they are going to get so bogged down in so many useless, stupid lawsuits over obviously illegal shit that everything else grinds to a close. Trump EO around the DOJ pursuing anyone who wants to bring lawsuits against the government is basically open season for lawyers. Gunna be a good 4 years for litigation lawyers. 

Yeah no, he's trying to bankrupt firms that have opposed him in the past. And threatening any lawyers thinking about opposing him (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/) This isn't a "good 4 years for litigation lawyers". This is open season on lawyers to bully them into not suing or defending the rights of anyone opposing Trump.

Not to mention even trying to impeach any judge ruling against him.

And things aren't grinding to a halt, they're just ignoring any judicial decisions against them. Such as not turning flights around.

[reeshau]

Hegseth blew up at reporters when asked about it, apparently unaware that the National Security Council, State Department, and the White House already confessed that it really happened.

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904309995019411933

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904310173143048327

It's the prisoner's dilemma!

I think the real next level of circus is that someone's head is going to roll for this--not because it happened, but because action is expected.  Trump will simply not like that this brings bad press, and hard questions.  But so many people were on that call, there will be a lot to pick from.  And, I don't think it will matter who actually set it up--whose idea it was.  They will all say they won't make the same mistake (that being, be more careful about chats, not comply with laws and not use an outside messaging system)

[EscapeVelocity2020]

Hegseth blew up at reporters when asked about it, apparently unaware that the National Security Council, State Department, and the White House already confessed that it really happened.

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904309995019411933

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904310173143048327

It's the prisoner's dilemma!

I think the real next level of circus is that someone's head is going to roll for this--not because it happened, but because action is expected.  Trump will simply not like that this brings bad press, and hard questions.  But so many people were on that call, there will be a lot to pick from.  And, I don't think it will matter who actually set it up--whose idea it was.  They will all say they won't make the same mistake (that being, be more careful about chats, not comply with laws and not use an outside messaging system)

Hagseth is clearly the weakest link.  It started when he offered up all the concessions to Russia before negotiations with Ukraine even began (no NATO membership, concessions of territory, etc.).  He is so far out of his depth it's not even embarrassing anymore, it's just to be expected that he will f* up everything he touches.

[GuitarStv]

Hegseth blew up at reporters when asked about it, apparently unaware that the National Security Council, State Department, and the White House already confessed that it really happened.

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904309995019411933

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904310173143048327

It's the prisoner's dilemma!

I think the real next level of circus is that someone's head is going to roll for this--not because it happened, but because action is expected.  Trump will simply not like that this brings bad press, and hard questions.  But so many people were on that call, there will be a lot to pick from.  And, I don't think it will matter who actually set it up--whose idea it was.  They will all say they won't make the same mistake (that being, be more careful about chats, not comply with laws and not use an outside messaging system)

Hagseth is clearly the weakest link.  It started when he offered up all the concessions to Russia before negotiations with Ukraine even began (no NATO membership, concessions of territory, etc.).  He is so far out of his depth it's not even embarrassing anymore, it's just to be expected that he will f* up everything he touches.

Weird.  It's almost like you're saying that hiring for some of the most important positions in the country based upon perceived loyalty to a leader and name recognition rather than qualification has some sort of downside.

[RetiredAt63]

Hegseth blew up at reporters when asked about it, apparently unaware that the National Security Council, State Department, and the White House already confessed that it really happened.

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904309995019411933

https://fixupx.com/acyn/status/1904310173143048327

It's the prisoner's dilemma!

I think the real next level of circus is that someone's head is going to roll for this--not because it happened, but because action is expected.  Trump will simply not like that this brings bad press, and hard questions.  But so many people were on that call, there will be a lot to pick from.  And, I don't think it will matter who actually set it up--whose idea it was.  They will all say they won't make the same mistake (that being, be more careful about chats, not comply with laws and not use an outside messaging system)

Hagseth is clearly the weakest link.  It started when he offered up all the concessions to Russia before negotiations with Ukraine even began (no NATO membership, concessions of territory, etc.).  He is so far out of his depth it's not even embarrassing anymore, it's just to be expected that he will f* up everything he touches.

Weird.  It's almost like you're saying that hiring for some of the most important positions in the country based upon perceived loyalty to a leader and name recognition rather than qualification has some sort of downside.

Well, we (Canada) have a party leader whose only qualification is being a professional politician.   /s

Some people have a deep distrust of qualified people.  Don't know why, but there it is.

[dividendman]

Humanity is too dumb for democracy.

[LennStar]

Some people have a deep distrust of qualified people.  Don't know why, but there it is.

Well, easy: You cannot trust someone who is smarter than you, he might do to you what you like do to others without you realizing. 

America has always been very religious and very anti-intellectual. Loyality is an independed dimension, but inherently very religious (prophets) and very anti-intellectual (heretics).
So if the religous believes of how things should be run happen to be in the same brew with a strong loyality based hierarchy, you get either crusades or a independing-thinking cleansed rulership.

[LennStar]

Humanity is too dumb for democracy.

And too compassionate for capitalism and too avaricious for communism.

Maybe it really is time for a big reset. Fast, before Musk builds a nuclear-warhead armed rocket fleet.

[sixwings]

The next phase is they are going to get so bogged down in so many useless, stupid lawsuits over obviously illegal shit that everything else grinds to a close. Trump EO around the DOJ pursuing anyone who wants to bring lawsuits against the government is basically open season for lawyers. Gunna be a good 4 years for litigation lawyers. 

Yeah no, he's trying to bankrupt firms that have opposed him in the past. And threatening any lawyers thinking about opposing him (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/) This isn't a "good 4 years for litigation lawyers". This is open season on lawyers to bully them into not suing or defending the rights of anyone opposing Trump.

Not to mention even trying to impeach any judge ruling against him.

And things aren't grinding to a halt, they're just ignoring any judicial decisions against them. Such as not turning flights around.

I am willing to bet that litigation lawyers, whose entire job is to go to court, who have massive egos and love to fight with the government will continue to do that. IMO the PW thing demonstrates that this is Space Balls, not the Empire. The empire wouldn't have cut a deal with PW, they would have forced PW into dissolution then gone after individual partners, particularly named partners if they are still alive, and put them in jail. THAT would have sent a serious shock through the legal system. Instead PW is doing some free legal services for the government and a small number of large firms with government contracts may not take cases going against the government for the next few years depending on how much money they make from the government. Trump is trying to scare lawyers into submission but I don't think he's even somewhat effective at it, if anything I think he's riled up the ones that want to fight.

One flight left, how many have left since then? The government is really not sending their best to that court room, they argued their case very, very poorly. Trump may have no option but to ignore the judiciary and I don't think that will go particularly well for him either.

This isn't to say it's all fine, it's definitely not, but America hasn't fallen yet, this administration is staffed by completed and total morons, the FBI's biggest focuses Tesla and Epstein, they are using unsecure channels, they are losing pretty consistently in court and have invited even more lawsuits, their EO's are complete trash and are opening more avenues of lawsuits tying up the DOJ in completely avoidable lawsuits, Trump is more and more unpopular and his handling of the economy is very negative, this isn't the empire, it's Space Balls, and it's time to start organizing for 2026, the country can be taken back. If Trumps damage can be limited to 2 years with dems taking congress and (maybe) the senate making him a lame duck for 2 years, I think the US will be able to muddle through this. (Senate is very outside shot as they have to hold georgia, michigan, NH, and win NC, OH, AK and Maine which i think is an incredibly tall order outside a wild win somewhere else like Florida)

[Travis]

The intelligence community are all in front of the Senate right down discussing various related issues such as immigration, Ukraine, and the Signal chat. A lot of hand wringing and deflection regarding the chat.

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3ll7lfmpue22s

https://bsky.app/profile/nikkimcr.bsky.social/post/3ll7m6ipjog2h

https://x.com/cspan/status/1904550509312454829

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ll7nfv5iwr2d

Also, somebody doesn't like the embarrassment as the Community Notes on Twitter keep disappearing.

https://x.com/AlexHortonTX/status/1904531479868129446

[sixwings]

The intelligence community are all in front of the Senate right down discussing various related issues such as immigration, Ukraine, and the Signal chat. A lot of hand wringing and deflection regarding the chat.

https://bsky.app/profile/justinbaragona.bsky.social/post/3ll7lfmpue22s

https://bsky.app/profile/nikkimcr.bsky.social/post/3ll7m6ipjog2h

https://x.com/cspan/status/1904550509312454829

Also, somebody doesn't like the embarrassment as the Community Notes on Twitter keep disappearing.

https://x.com/AlexHortonTX/status/1904531479868129446

At least Gabbard was honest on Canada regarding fentanyl.

[reeshau]

I am willing to bet that litigation lawyers, whose entire job is to go to court, who have massive egos and love to fight with the government will continue to do that.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the litigation side of Paul, Weiss did want to fight, but the M&A side did not.  Obviously, that side won out, but apparently it caused a huge schism inside the company.

[dragoncar]

The next phase is they are going to get so bogged down in so many useless, stupid lawsuits over obviously illegal shit that everything else grinds to a close. Trump EO around the DOJ pursuing anyone who wants to bring lawsuits against the government is basically open season for lawyers. Gunna be a good 4 years for litigation lawyers. 

Yeah no, he's trying to bankrupt firms that have opposed him in the past. And threatening any lawyers thinking about opposing him (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/) This isn't a "good 4 years for litigation lawyers". This is open season on lawyers to bully them into not suing or defending the rights of anyone opposing Trump.

Not to mention even trying to impeach any judge ruling against him.

And things aren't grinding to a halt, they're just ignoring any judicial decisions against them. Such as not turning flights around.

I am willing to bet that litigation lawyers, whose entire job is to go to court, who have massive egos and love to fight with the government will continue to do that. IMO the PW thing demonstrates that this is Space Balls, not the Empire. The empire wouldn't have cut a deal with PW, they would have forced PW into dissolution then gone after individual partners, particularly named partners if they are still alive, and put them in jail. THAT would have sent a serious shock through the legal system. Instead PW is doing some free legal services for the government and a small number of large firms with government contracts may not take cases going against the government for the next few years depending on how much money they make from the government. Trump is trying to scare lawyers into submission but I don't think he's even somewhat effective at it, if anything I think he's riled up the ones that want to fight.

One flight left, how many have left since then? The government is really not sending their best to that court room, they argued their case very, very poorly. Trump may have no option but to ignore the judiciary and I don't think that will go particularly well for him either.

This isn't to say it's all fine, it's definitely not, but America hasn't fallen yet, this administration is staffed by completed and total morons, the FBI's biggest focuses Tesla and Epstein, they are using unsecure channels, they are losing pretty consistently in court and have invited even more lawsuits, their EO's are complete trash and are opening more avenues of lawsuits tying up the DOJ in completely avoidable lawsuits, Trump is more and more unpopular and his handling of the economy is very negative, this isn't the empire, it's Space Balls, and it's time to start organizing for 2026, the country can be taken back. If Trumps damage can be limited to 2 years with dems taking congress and (maybe) the senate making him a lame duck for 2 years, I think the US will be able to muddle through this. (Senate is very outside shot as they have to hold georgia, michigan, NH, and win NC, OH, AK and Maine which i think is an incredibly tall order outside a wild win somewhere else like Florida)

I really hope we can turn this country around… from suck to blow

[sixwings]

I am willing to bet that litigation lawyers, whose entire job is to go to court, who have massive egos and love to fight with the government will continue to do that.

The Wall Street Journal reported that the litigation side of Paul, Weiss did want to fight, but the M&A side did not.  Obviously, that side won out, but apparently it caused a huge schism inside the company.

Yeah I cant really imagine that litigation lawyers are doing anything other than relishing the idea of unlimited work fighting the government in court for the next 4 years over extremely winnable cases because the government is run by people with actual dogshit for brains and the DOJ is probably not going to be attracting highly talent lawyers in the future. Firms that have a larger M&A arm or large government contracts may try to steer clear of it all to protect that side of their business.

[Fru-Gal]

Some people have a deep distrust of qualified people.  Don't know why, but there it is.

Well, easy: You cannot trust someone who is smarter than you, he might do to you what you like do to others without you realizing.

America has always been very religious and very anti-intellectual. Loyality is an independed dimension, but inherently very religious (prophets) and very anti-intellectual (heretics).
So if the religous believes of how things should be run happen to be in the same brew with a strong loyality based hierarchy, you get either crusades or a independing-thinking cleansed rulership.

Wow that is genius.

I don’t know that I agree about religion in the US or the anti-intellectualism. I believe both have simply been used as visible tools by those who could see the vast resources and opportunities in the New World and wished to exploit them while hiding their motivations.

People say Americans are so religious but if that’s true then it’s the ones who are religious like how team Trump is Christian: performatively, while being absolutely the worst level of depraved.

Compare America’s plurality of religion and ethnicity to Europe’s or China’s or Russia’s or throughout the former Ottoman Empire and at least until now the last 50-100 years has seen this country be the most free of expression and religion in the world. (Note I don’t really know what I’m talking about here historically but I’m sure someone who knows better can flesh it out.)

America is performatively religious like Musk is performatively intelligent.

[GuitarStv]

People say Americans are so religious but if that’s true then it’s the ones who are religious like how team Trump is Christian: performatively, while being absolutely the worst level of depraved.

This isn't an American thing.  The overwhelming majority of the religious I've run into in life are performatively religious.

[bacchi]

People say Americans are so religious but if that’s true then it’s the ones who are religious like how team Trump is Christian: performatively, while being absolutely the worst level of depraved.

This isn't an American thing.  The overwhelming majority of the religious I've run into in life are performatively religious.

Jonathan Swift wrote about this in the 1700s.

[Travis]

Trump going after another law firm suing him.

https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lla5ftjkdk2q

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/addressing-risks-from-jenner-block/



And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

And another one that centralizes all federal payments under the Treasury. Not entirely sure what this means, but I'm going to guess we're not going to like it.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/protecting-americas-bank-account-against-fraud-waste-and-abuse/

[Posthumane]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

[Travis]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

Voter rolls are held by the states, but I see them somehow using SSA/IRS records to cross-reference with voters and screw with them.  We're also going forward with that whole "your birth certificate must match your voter name" thing which immediately bounces any married woman.

[sixwings]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

Voter rolls are held by the states, but I see them somehow using SSA/IRS records to cross-reference with voters and screw with them.  We're also going forward with that whole "your birth certificate must match your voter name" thing which immediately bounces any married woman.

Won't all that stuff all be tossed by courts as it's not a function of the executive branch and that states administer their own elections? Like EO's aren't laws that apply to non-federal services regardless of how much Trump wants them to be.

Like this just looks like another obvious unconstitutional EO that will just end up dragging through court.

[Captain FIRE]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

Voter rolls are held by the states, but I see them somehow using SSA/IRS records to cross-reference with voters and screw with them.  We're also going forward with that whole "your birth certificate must match your voter name" thing which immediately bounces any married woman.

You mean:
…any married woman who changed their name.

This is bad, but let’s not further compound it by assuming all women changed their names. I did not. Ironically more white women and Republicans change their names. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/07/about-eight-in-ten-women-in-opposite-sex-marriages-say-they-took-their-husbands-last-name/sr_23-09-07_name-change_1-png/

[RetiredAt63]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

Voter rolls are held by the states, but I see them somehow using SSA/IRS records to cross-reference with voters and screw with them.  We're also going forward with that whole "your birth certificate must match your voter name" thing which immediately bounces any married woman.

You mean:
…any married woman who changed their name.

This is bad, but let’s not further compound it by assuming all women changed their names. I did not. Ironically more white women and Republicans change their names. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/07/about-eight-in-ten-women-in-opposite-sex-marriages-say-they-took-their-husbands-last-name/sr_23-09-07_name-change_1-png/

In Quebec a woman might socially use her husband's name but for work and pension and driver's license and health card and everything else official she by law uses her maiden name.  Lots of pretty leftist voters he doesn't want to have.

[dividendman]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

[bacchi]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

"Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff."

...on the overnight shift during a school night without meal breaks. Who cares if a 14 year old didn't get any sleep the night before their test?

Lol. What a shit state.

[ChpBstrd]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

So the U.S’s regression is back to, what? 1915 now?

[dividendman]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

So the U.S’s regression is back to, what? 1915 now?

It will be once we stop women from voting.

[Gremlin]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

Voter rolls are held by the states, but I see them somehow using SSA/IRS records to cross-reference with voters and screw with them.  We're also going forward with that whole "your birth certificate must match your voter name" thing which immediately bounces any married woman.

You mean:
…any married woman who changed their name.

This is bad, but let’s not further compound it by assuming all women changed their names. I did not. Ironically more white women and Republicans change their names. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/07/about-eight-in-ten-women-in-opposite-sex-marriages-say-they-took-their-husbands-last-name/sr_23-09-07_name-change_1-png/

In Quebec a woman might socially use her husband's name but for work and pension and driver's license and health card and everything else official she by law uses her maiden name.  Lots of pretty leftist voters he doesn't want to have.

The odds of free and fair elections involving an annexed Canadian population are effectively zero.

[Just Joe]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

So the U.S’s regression is back to, what? 1915 now?

Can't wait to see the tired eyes of a 12 year old standing next to an assembly line. Something for the GOP to be proud of. /s

[RetiredAt63]

And he signed an EO basically trying to take over elections, dictating how and when people will register and vote.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preserving-and-protecting-the-integrity-of-american-elections/

I see doge is now involved in scrutinizing voter registration lists. That doesn't sound like it's part of their core mandate.

Voter rolls are held by the states, but I see them somehow using SSA/IRS records to cross-reference with voters and screw with them.  We're also going forward with that whole "your birth certificate must match your voter name" thing which immediately bounces any married woman.

You mean:
…any married woman who changed their name.

This is bad, but let’s not further compound it by assuming all women changed their names. I did not. Ironically more white women and Republicans change their names. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/07/about-eight-in-ten-women-in-opposite-sex-marriages-say-they-took-their-husbands-last-name/sr_23-09-07_name-change_1-png/

In Quebec a woman might socially use her husband's name but for work and pension and driver's license and health card and everything else official she by law uses her maiden name.  Lots of pretty leftist voters he doesn't want to have.

The odds of free and fair elections involving an annexed Canadian population are effectively zero.

Oh we know.  He says state but we figure territory.  And it's all irrelevant anyway because if Trump has his way, you've already had your last election. Why do you think Canadians are so pissed off?

Mostly I was just pointing out that some places work on the assumption that a woman is an independent entity regardless of marital status.  Like men.

[jrhampt]

I have to say I never in my wildest dreams imagined this coming up as a good reason to not change my name.  Out of my siblings, i and one of my sisters did not change our names, one sister did.  Both sisters in law changed their names.  Out of other women I know, most changed their names.  After divorce, many changed it back to their original names.  If I recall correctly, about 90% of white women change their names, while it's more like 70% of hispanic women.  About half of women are not married, although less than a quarter have never been married.  So this would definitely impact the majority of women, but not all. 

[reeshau]

I have to say I like the BBC's imagery here, playing on "the kitten who sees themselves as a lion."  Making waves, yes.  But for whom?

[neo von retorch]

I have to say I like the BBC's imagery here, playing on "the kitten who sees themselves as a lion."  Making waves, yes.  But for whom?

Hmm good analogy, but "pawn seeing themself as a king" is more literal and pretty much just as good if not better.

Particularly if Trump is a pawn for Putin... ?

[Psychstache]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

"Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff."

...on the overnight shift during a school night without meal breaks. Who cares if a 14 year old didn't get any sleep the night before their test?

Lol. What a shit state.

Not even original, just following Arkansas' lead.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/10/1162531885/arkansas-child-labor-law-under-16-years-old-sarah-huckabee-sanders

[wenchsenior]

Don't worry people, Florida has an answer to the lack of labor and wanting to boot out more immigrants: make child labor legal and with less protections! Finally a solution to keep the poor families in poverty.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/25/business/florida-child-labor-laws/index.html

"Why do we say we need to import foreigners, even import them illegally, when you know, teenagers used to work at these resorts, college students should be able to do this stuff."

...on the overnight shift during a school night without meal breaks. Who cares if a 14 year old didn't get any sleep the night before their test?

Lol. What a shit state.

I'm sure Texas, another shit state, will be clamoring to follow in Florida's footsteps soon.

[Travis]

Atlantic posted the rest of the chat, minus the identify of an alleged CIA source.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

It included timelines for the strikes, aircraft involved, and after the first wave a battle damage assessment, but Waltz and Hegseth insist that because they didn't provide every single detail it wasn't a classified conversation.

Waltz has been on Fox implying Goldberg somehow magic'd his way into the conversation, and that he's never met the guy. They've met.

https://bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3llc2pwsfac2n

Apparently Stephen Miller only became part of the conversation after Vance and Waltz started questioning the administration's messaging of the situation. Miller was the final word on that topic, telling everyone what Trump's mood was.

https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3llbsvwsbdc23

Joe Kent, Trump's nominee to head the CIA's counterterrorism center was on the chat. Technically he's a private citizen right now.