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Title: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 18, 2018, 12:44:52 PM
I am despising shipping methods. I am trying to organize my house and I have been purchasing some different type of organizers. Some of the stuff is taking two weeks or more to get here. Some come directly from China and that takes weeks and weeks. This Smart Post delivery is the worst. By the time I get the items I have kind of forgotten what I bought them for. I did tracking on some of my packages and they made around 15 stops to get to CT. Seems we are going backwards in delivery service instead of forward. Like the stuff is coming by mule train. If companies use the Post Office I find the items arrive very quickly. Any other method is so slow!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: nessness on September 18, 2018, 03:21:43 PM
This seems like a weird thing to complain about. I can get almost anything I can imagine shipped directly to my door in 2 days! That's amazing!

The advantage to buying stuff directly from China is that it's usually cheaper. The disadvantage is that it can take a couple weeks to get it. Seems reasonable to me. And if you've forgotten what you needed something for two weeks after you ordered it, you don't need it.

What I do hate is stuff that gets shipped in excessively large packaging. Target is the worst about that. Like I'll buy a box of diapers and they'll put it inside another box that's twice as large and stuff the other half with plastic. I've been trying to cut down my online shopping primarily for that reason.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on September 18, 2018, 03:34:34 PM
Celery
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Free Spirit on September 18, 2018, 03:55:24 PM
Celery

This made me crack up for some reason.

Re:shipped goods - I hate when my order is completely wrong or damaged. I ordered some outdoor apparel and after hours of browsing to find what I was looking for, and waiting a week for it to arrive, the items came with holes and snags! Now I have to go through the hassle of sending it back, more research, and more waiting. I guess it's not THAT BIG of a hassle but still!

A different company sent me the wrong item entirely but my package slip was itemized with my intended order so I'm left in this limbo of keeping said item or dealing with a potential hassle with claims/customer service. The price difference was even quite substantial at $12 vs $80!

Sigh.


ETA: I guess I really hate hassles. And now the word has lost meaning since I've said it so many times. ;)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on September 18, 2018, 06:38:53 PM
Goatheads. Enough to make a guy spit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribulus_terrestris

Ouch. And I hate prickly pear glochids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia

An hour with tweezers and another few days for the last of them to fall out.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on September 19, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
Things I hate today:
Having to answer the phone waiting for job interviews and seems like 90% of these calls are either telemarketers, scammers, or pollsters...

Seems like my favorite cartoons are being destroyed. Rocky and Bullwinkle is a disaster, DuckTales is now unwatchable.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: fantabulous on September 19, 2018, 12:29:48 PM
If we're keeping it to petty things only: I hate that I have yet to settle on a work bag that I really like, but refuse to buy more.

If we're expanding to bigger issues in our lives: I hate that my volunteering has me stretched too thin, and I don't feel like I can resposibly drop any of it yet.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on September 19, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
Mobius strips. More of a love hate but they make my head hurt.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: BZB on September 19, 2018, 06:44:36 PM
mosquitos, cockroaches, coworker drama - all about equally
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Capt j-rod on September 19, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
1.telemarketers
2. plastic shopping bags!!! Every time I step into the woods or get out on a stream I find a F^&*(^ wal-mart bag!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ixtap on September 19, 2018, 07:25:41 PM
Any kind of marketing that wastes my time.

If I am watching TV, I am already kind of wasting time, so whatever. Since I am currently watching things on the PBS app, they are short and to the point, anyway. But if the mail says "Important account information" from a place I have an account at, and turns out to be an ad? I want to sue for fraud and I have never sued anyone in my life. Telemarketers? I want to sue for harassment. THIS IS MY PHONE AND MY TIME STOP JUST STOP.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on September 20, 2018, 02:13:03 PM
The questions on some of these job applications are driving me crazy.  They are so dumb, I'm beginning to wonder if they are trick questions or something.  45 variations of "Will you be a good employee?"  Sample:

Quote
I never feel upset if things do not go my way.
Very strongly agree, I'm a robot!

And then there is stuff like this that confuses me.  There are 5 levels going from strongly agree to strongly disagree:
Quote
Getting along with all members of your work team is easy to do. 
No room to explain the answer.  Yes I agree, because I get along with my team members.  Or no, I disagree because getting along takes effort and I am willing to expend the effort.  Which way do I go???
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MasterStache on September 20, 2018, 03:58:21 PM
100 degrees outside nearing the end of September!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: El_Viajero on September 20, 2018, 06:26:56 PM
People who leave their cars idling in the parking lot. I've got a buddy who hates this too, and he'll actually open the door and turn the car off... if there's nobody in it, that is. I don't have the nerve to do that.

Valet parking. I HATE HATE HATE valet parking. Who wants to give their car and their car key to a complete stranger who parks it in some unknown location? And then, to top it all off, you have to tip them! God.

Crawlspaces

Mosquitos

Fixing broken shit. I know 90% of MMM people find fixing things to be life affirming, but I just consider it a pain in the ass. I'd always rather be playing music or reading.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jeninco on September 20, 2018, 09:37:49 PM
Goatheads. Enough to make a guy spit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribulus_terrestris

Ouch. And I hate prickly pear glochids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia

An hour with tweezers and another few days for the last of them to fall out.

Get what you can with tweezers, then smear Elmer's Glue (or similar) over the affected area in a thin layer. Wait for it to dry, then peel off. Should get most of the glochids -- you may decide to do a second pass.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 21, 2018, 03:59:37 AM
I hate these damn phone calls I keep getting everyday that are trying to scam me out of money somehow. I have NOMOROBO but it still rings once until they intercept and block the call. However these jerks keep changing their phone numbers and it takes a while for NOMOROBO to catch up with them. I have noticed that the last 4 digits of the phone number 7191 seem to show up often. Does anyone else have a problem with these formerly Rachael calls that say they have been monitoring your accounts? Then for a while I got some Chinese guy who kept telling me he was from Microsoft and that my computer had a virus and he would help fix it. I told him more than once he was a scammer and he said he wasn't. I hung up and he called me back again! I hung up and he didn't call back.

I had this septic additive company keep calling and wanting us to buy this product. They would call day after day. Their phone is located in Bristol, CT. Every single day I would have at least 4 calls on caller ID from them. I finally answered the phone and told them to STOP calling. The woman was nasty and I told her I wouldn't buy her stuff ever so don't call anymore.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 21, 2018, 04:08:51 AM
I bought these little chrome shelves for my bathroom to get items off the vanity. So, I hang the one little shelf on my ceramic tile with Command Hooks and within minutes it fell off. I had some other double sided heavy duty tape and redid the hooks with it. It lasted a day and the hook fell off. I cleaned the tile with alcohol and dried it before applying the hooks. I do not want to drill holes in the ceramic tile. I bought some different stick on hooks from Amazon. Hope they work. GRRRRR!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on September 21, 2018, 04:22:06 AM
Loud noise at night when I try to sleep. I have the last 2 weeks experienced this a lot, both on a campsite and on a city trip. You learn to value your own bedroom.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 21, 2018, 05:09:12 AM
I hate it when my neighbor burns brush and the smoke wafts over to my house and I have to close my windows. I doubt he has a burn permit either. Wouldn't you think the smoke would be going into his house?

His kid also has a mini scarp yard over there and makes lots of banging noises, metal grinding and typical noises you'd hear at a commercial garage. This is a neighborhood, not a commercial place to do this kind of work.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: megaschnauzer on September 21, 2018, 06:25:46 AM
Autocad. Especially Civil 3D.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: lost_in_the_endless_aisle on September 21, 2018, 10:35:22 PM
I am despising shipping methods. I am trying to organize my house and I have been purchasing some different type of organizers. Some of the stuff is taking two weeks or more to get here. Some come directly from China and that takes weeks and weeks. This Smart Post delivery is the worst. By the time I get the items I have kind of forgotten what I bought them for. I did tracking on some of my packages and they made around 15 stops to get to CT. Seems we are going backwards in delivery service instead of forward. Like the stuff is coming by mule train. If companies use the Post Office I find the items arrive very quickly. Any other method is so slow!
But Smartpost is very cheap! It's generally the cheapest shipping option possible for the seller, saving several $ per package over the next fastest service. UPS Surepost is somewhat better since it often travels in their ground network anyway.

My list:

when a sock or something like that falls behind my clothes drier and requires fishing skills to recover

the impersonal messages left on birthday cards passed around the office

when you discover a gas station pump is broken after you've parked and shut off the car

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 22, 2018, 04:51:55 AM
I am despising shipping methods. I am trying to organize my house and I have been purchasing some different type of organizers. Some of the stuff is taking two weeks or more to get here. Some come directly from China and that takes weeks and weeks. This Smart Post delivery is the worst. By the time I get the items I have kind of forgotten what I bought them for. I did tracking on some of my packages and they made around 15 stops to get to CT. Seems we are going backwards in delivery service instead of forward. Like the stuff is coming by mule train. If companies use the Post Office I find the items arrive very quickly. Any other method is so slow!
But Smartpost is very cheap! It's generally the cheapest shipping option possible for the seller, saving several $ per package over the next fastest service. UPS Surepost is somewhat better since it often travels in their ground network anyway.

My list:

when a sock or something like that falls behind my clothes drier and requires fishing skills to recover

the impersonal messages left on birthday cards passed around the office

when you discover a gas station pump is broken after you've parked and shut off the car

Surepost and Smartpost both suck! It might be good for the seller but it should be all about the buyer. When I buy something I want it in a reasonable amount of time. Both of those methods take forever and ever to receive. It is a JOKE! One step up from mule train.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: libertarian4321 on September 23, 2018, 03:31:45 AM
Goatheads. Enough to make a guy spit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribulus_terrestris

Ouch. And I hate prickly pear glochids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia

An hour with tweezers and another few days for the last of them to fall out.

Get a good pair of work gloves, and you will get very few of them stuck in your hand.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DreamFIRE on September 23, 2018, 09:36:23 AM
I hate these damn phone calls I keep getting everyday that are trying to scam me out of money somehow. I have NOMOROBO but it still rings once until they intercept and block the call. However these jerks keep changing their phone numbers and it takes a while for NOMOROBO to catch up with them. I have noticed that the last 4 digits of the phone number 7191 seem to show up often. Does anyone else have a problem with these formerly Rachael calls that say they have been monitoring your accounts? Then for a while I got some Chinese guy who kept telling me he was from Microsoft and that my computer had a virus and he would help fix it. I told him more than once he was a scammer and he said he wasn't. I hung up and he called me back again! I hung up and he didn't call back.

I had this septic additive company keep calling and wanting us to buy this product. They would call day after day. Their phone is located in Bristol, CT. Every single day I would have at least 4 calls on caller ID from them. I finally answered the phone and told them to STOP calling. The woman was nasty and I told her I wouldn't buy her stuff ever so don't call anymore.

I hate those, too.  I stopped answering the phone a long time ago unless the caller is identified by my phone as someone I know.  You can also setup the phone so it only rings from numbers in your contacts.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Walterbl on September 23, 2018, 10:33:24 AM
Waiting. Patience has never been my strenght.

When a machine breaks down or something doesn't go as planned.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on September 24, 2018, 01:08:22 AM
I know I've mentioned it before, but the job getting process is extremely annoying. With all this tech and all these companies out there you'd think there was a way not to fill out your name, address, and qualifications Every. Single. Freaking. Time.

Ziprecruiter seems to have a halfway decent platform with one click application but jobs are mostly through agencies. Out of maybe 30 warehouse postings, 2 are directly from a company, the rest from agencies. What the hell?!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 24, 2018, 06:00:59 AM
If you have to go to several doctors or have medical tests, they make you fill out basically the same paperwork over and over and your prescription drugs, how much you take and strength. Why can't these places have one form you fill our and bring it to each doctor or hospital instead of filling out the paperwork a million times. When my mother was sick, I had to fill out all of the stupid paperwork to the point I had to have a 3 ring notebook to remember everything!

Seems in this computer world there should be a better way.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jim555 on September 24, 2018, 08:18:55 AM
I hate scam / telemarketer phone calls.  They just don't stop.   I usually answer and hang up on them.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on September 24, 2018, 10:49:26 AM
I hate scam / telemarketer phone calls.  They just don't stop.   I usually answer and hang up on them.

+1  Ask them to put you on their "do not call" list. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cookie78 on September 24, 2018, 11:24:19 AM
Vandals, Thieves, and Haters.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on September 24, 2018, 11:27:58 AM
In mother Russia, things hate you!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jim555 on September 24, 2018, 11:59:01 AM
I hate scam / telemarketer phone calls.  They just don't stop.   I usually answer and hang up on them.

+1  Ask them to put you on their "do not call" list.
I just confirmed I am on the "do not call" registry.  Doesn't seem to stop them.  I'm gonna start filing complaints on them.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Free Spirit on September 24, 2018, 07:02:34 PM
We're on the do not call list but it doesn't stop 'em all. It's gotten to the point where we now totally waste their time with bs. Fun things we've done with telemarketers:

- tell the "car warranty" people that we have 587,000 miles on our car from a few trips to Alaska and every minute detail about it until they get bored and hang up
- fart really loudly into the phone
- pretend to have sex
- keep them on the line acting as if we are interested and then give them bogus cc info or an address laden with vulgarities
- start singing the chorus of "I will always love you" incredibly loud
- answer in a different language, sometimes mixing a few different ones
- stay on the line and refer to yourself exclusively in the third person

It's quite fun coming up with new ideas actually, I think I might tell them my husband is dead next time they call.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: lost_in_the_endless_aisle on September 24, 2018, 08:10:08 PM
We're on the do not call list but it doesn't stop 'em all. It's gotten to the point where we now totally waste their time with bs. Fun things we've done with telemarketers:

- tell the "car warranty" people that we have 587,000 miles on our car from a few trips to Alaska and every minute detail about it until they get bored and hang up
- fart really loudly into the phone
- pretend to have sex
- keep them on the line acting as if we are interested and then give them bogus cc info or an address laden with vulgarities
- start singing the chorus of "I will always love you" incredibly loud
- answer in a different language, sometimes mixing a few different ones
- stay on the line and refer to yourself exclusively in the third person

It's quite fun coming up with new ideas actually, I think I might tell them my husband is dead next time they call.
There are some good videos on YT of reverse-scamming to waste scammers' time, e.g. this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPHgb9UaHsM) (guy pretends to be grandmother/granddaughter duo; he has spent up to 4 hours on one call in another video), or even more clinical analysis after hacking into a scammer's operations, e.g. this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5X9ZSXb7xI). I didn't know how these kind of scams even worked until watching videos of this sort.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jim555 on September 25, 2018, 05:37:33 AM
I told two of them yesterday to add me to the do not call list.  They agreed. 

I new twist is leaving a voicemail ad without the phone ringing.  That is super annoying.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 25, 2018, 05:56:17 AM
We're on the do not call list but it doesn't stop 'em all. It's gotten to the point where we now totally waste their time with bs. Fun things we've done with telemarketers:

- tell the "car warranty" people that we have 587,000 miles on our car from a few trips to Alaska and every minute detail about it until they get bored and hang up
- fart really loudly into the phone
- pretend to have sex
- keep them on the line acting as if we are interested and then give them bogus cc info or an address laden with vulgarities
- start singing the chorus of "I will always love you" incredibly loud
- answer in a different language, sometimes mixing a few different ones
- stay on the line and refer to yourself exclusively in the third person

It's quite fun coming up with new ideas actually, I think I might tell them my husband is dead next time they call.

You can ask them till you are blue in the face to take you off their list or you are on the no call list but they do not care and the robo calls keep coming thru. There is no stopping them. Most times I just let it ring but sometimes I have answered. Usually when you answer, they tell you what number you are on the wait list for someone to speak to you. I wait till someone says hello and I have this little box that came out of a dog toy that when you squeeze it, the thing makes duck quacking noises! LOL! Makes me happy! Sometimes I ask them why they keep calling over and over. They swear at me. Oh, yes, legitimate business people for sure!

Anyone have their computer freeze up and some voice comes on to tell you they have found porn on your computer and that you have to call them or they will report you to the authorities? I have had it happen a bunch of times and had to reboot my computer. The voice tells you if you leave the site they will alert authorities. DUH to them. I don't have porn on my computer. JERKS!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jim555 on September 25, 2018, 06:28:04 AM
Anyone have their computer freeze up and some voice comes on to tell you they have found porn on your computer and that you have to call them or they will report you to the authorities? I have had it happen a bunch of times and had to reboot my computer. The voice tells you if you leave the site they will alert authorities. DUH to them. I don't have porn on my computer. JERKS!
"Windows Technical Support" called me.  One problem, I use Linux.  Hahaha.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on September 25, 2018, 06:41:03 AM
Anyone have their computer freeze up and some voice comes on to tell you they have found porn on your computer and that you have to call them or they will report you to the authorities? I have had it happen a bunch of times and had to reboot my computer. The voice tells you if you leave the site they will alert authorities. DUH to them. I don't have porn on my computer. JERKS!
"Windows Technical Support" called me.  One problem, I use Linux.  Hahaha.
Make sure to tell them of your problems with your "coffee cup holder".  ( CD tray, tech support urban legend)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: fn43086 on September 25, 2018, 07:33:00 AM
I am despising shipping methods. I am trying to organize my house and I have been purchasing some different type of organizers. Some of the stuff is taking two weeks or more to get here. Some come directly from China and that takes weeks and weeks. This Smart Post delivery is the worst. By the time I get the items I have kind of forgotten what I bought them for. I did tracking on some of my packages and they made around 15 stops to get to CT. Seems we are going backwards in delivery service instead of forward. Like the stuff is coming by mule train. If companies use the Post Office I find the items arrive very quickly. Any other method is so slow!

To add to the shipping situations: My "pet peeve" is when I am home, and they mark "delivery attempted" but never even came to the door (usually on a weekend) and they don't even leave a tag for me to go pick up the package in the mean time. I am left waiting until at least Monday even though the package is literally right down the road from me just sitting at the post office/distribution center.   
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on September 25, 2018, 07:38:04 AM
I am despising shipping methods. I am trying to organize my house and I have been purchasing some different type of organizers. Some of the stuff is taking two weeks or more to get here. Some come directly from China and that takes weeks and weeks. This Smart Post delivery is the worst. By the time I get the items I have kind of forgotten what I bought them for. I did tracking on some of my packages and they made around 15 stops to get to CT. Seems we are going backwards in delivery service instead of forward. Like the stuff is coming by mule train. If companies use the Post Office I find the items arrive very quickly. Any other method is so slow!

To add to the shipping situations: My "pet peeve" is when I am home, and they mark "delivery attempted" but never even came to the door (usually on a weekend) and they don't even leave a tag for me to go pick up the package in the mean time. I am left waiting until at least Monday even though the package is literally right down the road from me just sitting at the post office/distribution center.

My husband had this once on a weekday while he was at home with sick leave. They had never been at our house, but reported as "you weren't home". At least, that day we could prove it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: sequoia on September 25, 2018, 03:58:33 PM
I hate scam / telemarketer phone calls.  They just don't stop.   I usually answer and hang up on them.

My solution is easy. Live is too short for picking up calls from unknown number. If it is legit, they can leave me a vm.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jim555 on September 25, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
I hate scam / telemarketer phone calls.  They just don't stop.   I usually answer and hang up on them.

My solution is easy. Live is too short for picking up calls from unknown number. If it is legit, they can leave me a vm.
But then I have to call the vm and that is more work than just answering and hanging up.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: teen persuasion on September 25, 2018, 07:58:15 PM
Lawn service guys who park their truck with trailer IN the road on narrow roads with no parking lane, or even shoulder.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Pigeon on September 26, 2018, 07:20:45 AM
If you have to go to several doctors or have medical tests, they make you fill out basically the same paperwork over and over and your prescription drugs, how much you take and strength. Why can't these places have one form you fill our and bring it to each doctor or hospital instead of filling out the paperwork a million times. When my mother was sick, I had to fill out all of the stupid paperwork to the point I had to have a 3 ring notebook to remember everything!

Seems in this computer world there should be a better way.
So true.  I hate filling out medical history forms, too. I'm almost 60.  I have had exactly one doctor in my entire life look at the medical history form before or during the appointment.  I sometimes fantasize about filling in random nonsense.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 26, 2018, 09:17:50 AM
I hate it when you buy something and they give you a 4 hour window of delivery time. 2 hours should be maximum. Do they expect people to stay home all day and not go to work?

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 26, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
Another thing I hate is when you make a phone call and go thru all the pre recorded prompts. They ask you to put in your account number and other information. Then they finally transfer you to a human operator and they then ask you for your account number and all the other crap you have just entered on your key pad.

Not to mention when you are on hold and they have the pre recorded music that is blasting, is some horrible song that is on a loop that plays over and over and then is constantly interrupted by more information this company can do for you.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on September 26, 2018, 10:22:10 AM
The shipping thing seems to be a common annoying burr in people's sides. My SO had vitamins on order with GNC, attempted delivery 3 times until finally an email to customer service changed delivery method from FedEx to USPS which finally resulted in our vitamins arriving. We live in an apartment and normally get our packages from USPS or UPS, for some reason FedEx has trouble figuring out how to get to us.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on September 26, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Another thing I hate is when you make a phone call and go thru all the pre recorded prompts. They ask you to put in your account number and other information. Then they finally transfer you to a human operator and they then ask you for your account number and all the other crap you have just entered on your key pad.

Not to mention when you are on hold and they have the pre recorded music that is blasting, is some horrible song that is on a loop that plays over and over and then is constantly interrupted by more information this company can do for you.
Yep, all the above and I'd like to add that the pre-recorded music sounds like it is coming from bubbles from the yellow submarine.
Also, getting a pre-recorded music that doesn't grate on my ears is a miracle, especially after 5 minutes on hold.   I have pretty wide musical tastes, but nearly without fail, the pre-recorded music is wildly bad.   There is a reason that "grunge" grates on most people.  Nearly everyone in the early Seattle scene worked at Muzak(tm).   Disclaimer, I'm a big fan of "grunge" stuff, probably because I was in graduate school (70hrs/week minimum) at the time, and the music (NOT Muzak) was my only outlet.
 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on September 26, 2018, 10:37:35 AM
Another thing I hate is when you make a phone call and go thru all the pre recorded prompts. They ask you to put in your account number and other information. Then they finally transfer you to a human operator and they then ask you for your account number and all the other crap you have just entered on your key pad.

Not to mention when you are on hold and they have the pre recorded music that is blasting, is some horrible song that is on a loop that plays over and over and then is constantly interrupted by more information this company can do for you.
Yep, all the above and I'd like to add that the pre-recorded music sounds like it is coming from bubbles from the yellow submarine.
Also, getting a pre-recorded music that doesn't grate on my ears is a miracle, especially after 5 minutes on hold.   I have pretty wide musical tastes, but nearly without fail, the pre-recorded music is wildly bad.   There is a reason that "grunge" grates on most people.  Nearly everyone in the early Seattle scene worked at Muzak(tm).   Disclaimer, I'm a big fan of "grunge" stuff, probably because I was in graduate school (70hrs/week minimum) at the time, and the music (NOT Muzak) was my only outlet.
I had the absolute worst experience with hold music a couple weeks ago (I'll name and shame: Blain's Farm and Fleet).  It was several voiceover recordings talking about how great their store is, fine whatever.  But they were badly spliced together so it always felt like the hold recording was being cut off and a human was about to talk.  It was not the kind of hold where you could just tune it out until someone picked up.  I had to listen to it carefully, and for about 25 minutes.  While driving through a freak torrential downpour of a thunderstorm that started around minute 15.  With it on speakerphone through the car.  It was stupid.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on September 26, 2018, 12:19:20 PM
I hate it when my mailman is lazy and jams tons of mail into my box including a package. He stuffs so much in, it is falling out the back door. My house door is not a mile away. Really only about 50 feet.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Pigeon on September 26, 2018, 12:37:52 PM
Another thing I hate is when you make a phone call and go thru all the pre recorded prompts. They ask you to put in your account number and other information. Then they finally transfer you to a human operator and they then ask you for your account number and all the other crap you have just entered on your key pad.

Not to mention when you are on hold and they have the pre recorded music that is blasting, is some horrible song that is on a loop that plays over and over and then is constantly interrupted by more information this company can do for you.

I particularly resent the recorded voice interrupting the canned muzak every 30 seconds to say, "Please hold, your call is important to us."  No, if my call was important, you'd pay someone to answer the damn call.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: sequoia on September 26, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
Lawn service guys who park their truck with trailer IN the road on narrow roads with no parking lane, or even shoulder.

+1. We have a narrow access road that connects everyone's garage to the main road. Lawn service guys who have wide trailer will block more than half of the lane. I can kinda tolerate this since they are only parking for short time, everyone has a small lawn here. What really bug me are neighbors who parked on the road everyday while their driveways are empty.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 01, 2018, 01:04:08 PM
Okay, this is the latest thing I hate. Husband went to the deli at the grocery store the other day and got two one lb packages of roast beef. Some ham and cheese. He brings it home and I look at the packages and all the meat and cheese is jumbled up in the bags! The roast beef looked like softballs jammed into the bags, same with the ham and the cheese was all in messy piles. I was furious. This stuff is not cheap! So I took each package and had to restack the meat and cheese in normal piles of meat. Slicing meat and putting it in simple piles isn't rocket science. If I had not 'fixed' the meat and cheese it would have been a real problem getting the slices to peel off without ripping. This was a young guy and obviously just doesn't give a crap! Good future for him if he can't even slice deli meat with skill. Imagine if this guy had to do a job where he had to THINK?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Poundwise on October 01, 2018, 02:39:15 PM
Rising interest rates just when I want to refinance.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 01, 2018, 03:21:02 PM
Today got what must be the 40th phone call from some JERK that claims to be from Microsoft and they have discovered a problem with my computer. DUH!
I told the guy...YEAH, you've called me 100 times already and hung up. OMG, if they have called me 40-50 times, have they run out of people to scam?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: BookLoverL on October 01, 2018, 03:55:23 PM
I hate light pollution.

I just want to see the stars how they should be again, like I did when I went on holiday to Iceland when I was a teenager. There were so many stars in the sky that my mind was blown. It was genuinely a life-changing moment.

Then I came back home and could once more only see the skeletons of the constellations, the stars' light dimmed by hundreds of street lights and security lights and floodlights. The stars are a genuine wonder of the world, and so many people will never get to properly see them at this rate.

There are better ways to achieve safety and security than to flood the world with dazzling light. I really hope the public's opinion changes on this some day.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Padonak on October 01, 2018, 05:35:52 PM
I hate everything and everybody


...


jk
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 02, 2018, 02:13:42 AM
I hate light pollution.

I just want to see the stars how they should be again, like I did when I went on holiday to Iceland when I was a teenager. There were so many stars in the sky that my mind was blown. It was genuinely a life-changing moment.

Then I came back home and could once more only see the skeletons of the constellations, the stars' light dimmed by hundreds of street lights and security lights and floodlights. The stars are a genuine wonder of the world, and so many people will never get to properly see them at this rate.

There are better ways to achieve safety and security than to flood the world with dazzling light. I really hope the public's opinion changes on this some day.

+1000

Indeed, seeing the milky way is just amazing. I do stargazing through a telescope and the difference between doing that at home, near the capital, or somewhere remote in a darker place is enormous. Some objects I just cannot see at all at home. And as long as I have to work, I need to do this hobby at home. The hobby takes away enough sleep as it is, without travelling and setting up the telescope from scratch each time.
In my neighbourhood there are no streetlights. Therefore everyone has a bright light at the entrance, often with a darkness sensor, that is on the whole night. When I am observing, I put blankets over the terrace rack. But I need to sit on a limited part of the terrace to not be bothered by the lights.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on October 02, 2018, 11:53:59 AM
Celery

Coconut. The texture.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on October 02, 2018, 11:58:12 AM
People who leave their cars idling in the parking lot. I've got a buddy who hates this too, and he'll actually open the door and turn the car off... if there's nobody in it, that is. I don't have the nerve to do that.

Valet parking. I HATE HATE HATE valet parking. Who wants to give their car and their car key to a complete stranger who parks it in some unknown location? And then, to top it all off, you have to tip them! God.

Crawlspaces

Mosquitos

Fixing broken shit. I know 90% of MMM people find fixing things to be life affirming, but I just consider it a pain in the ass. I'd always rather be playing music or reading.

People who leave their cars idling at SONIC. Yeah, I get it - some folks are just waiting for their order and then they'll leave like any other fastfood joint. Some will order, idle, wait for their food, idle, and then eat their food, idle, and then leave. We visit places like Sonic twice a year perhaps as a treat for the kids and it would be more fun to sit outside and eat if I didn't have to listen to various cars idle, a/c cycling, and the cooling fan cycling. And then there are those few really oblivious people who leave their headlights on the whole time... ;)

To be honest our patio is a much better place to eat a burger!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 03, 2018, 01:12:31 AM
Stressful "emergencies" happening when I am trying to have a quiet breakfast after a difficult wakeup.

And sometimes the emergency turns out to be quite easy to handle, so why make so much fuss about it...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cookie78 on October 03, 2018, 07:13:39 AM
Suicide jokes and gestures
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on October 03, 2018, 07:44:38 AM
Suicide jokes and gestures

Ugh. I reflexively do this from time to time. I really try not to, and I hate myself every time I do it. But they slip out before I can stop them. I do apologize for them, though, because gross.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cookie78 on October 03, 2018, 07:56:46 AM
Suicide jokes and gestures

Ugh. I reflexively do this from time to time. I really try not to, and I hate myself every time I do it. But they slip out before I can stop them. I do apologize for them, though, because gross.

Thanks.
It never bothered me before, but now it just makes me see my brother's brains all over the truck (which thank god I never actually saw for real). Lately it's getting worse and I had a small meltdown at work when a friend/coworker did it and I struggled to breathe and to get the words out to ask her not to.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on October 03, 2018, 08:01:12 AM
Suicide jokes and gestures

Ugh. I reflexively do this from time to time. I really try not to, and I hate myself every time I do it. But they slip out before I can stop them. I do apologize for them, though, because gross.

Thanks.
It never bothered me before, but now it just makes me see my brother's brains all over the truck (which thank god I never actually saw for real). Lately it's getting worse and I had a small meltdown at work when a friend/coworker did it and I struggled to breathe and to get the words out to ask her not to.

I'm so sorry.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cookie78 on October 03, 2018, 08:05:41 AM
Suicide jokes and gestures

Ugh. I reflexively do this from time to time. I really try not to, and I hate myself every time I do it. But they slip out before I can stop them. I do apologize for them, though, because gross.

Thanks.
It never bothered me before, but now it just makes me see my brother's brains all over the truck (which thank god I never actually saw for real). Lately it's getting worse and I had a small meltdown at work when a friend/coworker did it and I struggled to breathe and to get the words out to ask her not to.

I'm so sorry.

<3
Thanks

Ironically all day yesterday I was frustrated at work and IN MY MIND I was making those same gestures. I'm hoping that between this and the meltdown I'm at some sort of tipping point and my reactivity will be dramatically lowered going forward.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 03, 2018, 08:35:59 AM
I hate delivery windows that are four hours. Do they expect people to work half a day?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PDXTabs on October 03, 2018, 09:28:50 AM
Cars
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 03, 2018, 09:51:33 AM
I hate delivery windows that are four hours. Do they expect people to work half a day?
My favorite is when they screw even that up.  I was told "8am-12pm" for our AT&T DSL/DirecTV install.  DirecTV guy shows up at 9am, DSL guy shows up at 2:30pm.  He wasn't done until almost 5.  They told the DSL install contractor a "whole day window." Thanks, jerks.  Literally took almost my entire day to get hooked up.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 04, 2018, 12:23:26 AM
Suicide jokes and gestures

Ugh. I reflexively do this from time to time. I really try not to, and I hate myself every time I do it. But they slip out before I can stop them. I do apologize for them, though, because gross.

Thanks.
It never bothered me before, but now it just makes me see my brother's brains all over the truck (which thank god I never actually saw for real). Lately it's getting worse and I had a small meltdown at work when a friend/coworker did it and I struggled to breathe and to get the words out to ask her not to.

I'm so sorry.

<3
Thanks

Ironically all day yesterday I was frustrated at work and IN MY MIND I was making those same gestures. I'm hoping that between this and the meltdown I'm at some sort of tipping point and my reactivity will be dramatically lowered going forward.

It sounds like you could use some help with this. Have you tried contacting a support group?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 05, 2018, 03:42:01 PM
Looking for a job, have shot apps to about 40 different companies in the past 3 weeks, mostly warehouse and HVAC companies, and yet I'm still only getting unsolicited phone calls about resumes I've "sent" to marketing companies, which I've never actually sent. Thanks Ziprecruiter for wasting my time with this crap. :-(

 I wish there was some option to pay like $50 and get only phone calls from the actual companies I want to work for. Why must so many companies go the suboptimal route for their customers???
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 05, 2018, 04:15:02 PM
Sorry Johnez on the job search issues. I lost my job twice in my 50's. The older you get the harder it is but they say jobless is down to an all time low. Take a look at jobs your town is offering. Go to the municipal websites and look under careers. Same with State jobs. I know guy who went to college for 5 years and is a janitor in a school system. His benefits are awesome and the pay isn't bad at all. However, I find it a bit disturbing to think his parents paid mega money to educate him and he has taken a job that requires no higher education. I think he hopes eventually he will get promoted to a manager position. Think outside the box on employment. I see lots of signs out for help wanted at car part places. Even if it isn't what you want, it can be a fill in job till you find something that is a better fit. Then maybe you can transition that job to part time when you get a better full time job. Good luck!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 05, 2018, 04:20:19 PM
This is another thing I hate! Has anyone noticed that every commercial on tv has to have a STUPID musical jingle associated with it? UGH!

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 05, 2018, 04:32:07 PM
Sorry Johnez on the job search issues. I lost my job twice in my 50's. The older you get the harder it is but they say jobless is down to an all time low. Take a look at jobs your town is offering. Go to the municipal websites and look under careers. Same with State jobs. I know guy who went to college for 5 years and is a janitor in a school system. His benefits are awesome and the pay isn't bad at all. However, I find it a bit disturbing to think his parents paid mega money to educate him and he has taken a job that requires no higher education. I think he hopes eventually he will get promoted to a manager position. Think outside the box on employment. I see lots of signs out for help wanted at car part places. Even if it isn't what you want, it can be a fill in job till you find something that is a better fit. Then maybe you can transition that job to part time when you get a better full time job. Good luck!

Thanks Roadrunner53 for the encouragement. I actually just started going down the govt jobs route. There is an amazing assortment out there with some really good pay and benefits. If I had any inclination to be a cop, I might have considered that route because there seem to be tons of listings and pretty decent pay rates. Side benefit, almost every govt listing has salary and benefits clearly laid out so as not to waste an applicant's time.

I am considering putting a good outfit together and hoofing it in person with 20 resumes in hand. Good thing with Indeed and Ziprecruiter is I've got all the companies listed right there, just have to map out my day. Better than sitting at home in front of a damn screen for another day!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 05, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
Johnez, my Dad worked for the State of CT for the highway department. He was an agent that dealt with eminent domain when the state was building highways and things. He presented the offer to buy the property to the owners and tell them their rights. When he retired he was able to have health insurance and then when he turned 65 Medicare was his primary insurance and the state insurance was his secondary. It basically covered everything and prescriptions were like $4 each. My Mom was also allowed to go on it and she was very sick over the years and racked up tons of bills but never really had to pay much of anything. Once in a while one would filter in and would be very tiny...like $20-$30. There are a lot of hidden perks in State jobs. They used to say the pay was lower than the private sector but the bennies made up for it. I also know a guy who worked for the state working in the sign making department. He worked there from the time he left high school and retired after over 40 years so I imagine his state retirement would be pretty good!

I worked in research and development at one of the biggest food companies in the world. A lot of these companies have maintenance departments or shops where they fabricate stuff. There are so many hidden jobs. Look up corporations in your town/area and look at their career websites and see what they are offering. Sometimes you have to get a grunt job and once they see you have potential, they will move you to a place where you can use your true potential. Good luck!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 06, 2018, 07:21:22 AM
Looking for a job, have shot apps to about 40 different companies in the past 3 weeks, mostly warehouse and HVAC companies, and yet I'm still only getting unsolicited phone calls about resumes I've "sent" to marketing companies, which I've never actually sent. Thanks Ziprecruiter for wasting my time with this crap. :-(

 I wish there was some option to pay like $50 and get only phone calls from the actual companies I want to work for. Why must so many companies go the suboptimal route for their customers???
Ugh, Ziprecruiter!  I've been on the other side of them, and they really suck if you're looking for someone specialized.  I posted a job on there for a Lotus Notes (shoot me) developer, specifying local applicants only.  We got about 50 resumes, at least 45 of them completely irrelevant (Java/.NET developers and whatnot), and none of the relevant ones were within 500 miles.  After a few days of that horseshit, I cancelled, and started getting whiny phone calls from Ziprecruiter every day.  Fuck that.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Freedomin5 on October 06, 2018, 08:23:50 AM
Following our investment plan and buying index funds at specified times of the year, and then having the fund price drop the very next day. I keep reminding myself that it doesnít matter in the long run.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 06, 2018, 01:24:28 PM
I hate it when I am home on a Sunday morning and someone is banging at my front door. It is always people trying to push their religion on us. My dogs go berserk barking as these jerks keep banging on the door. I typically won't answer the door. Just got a sign on the front door that says no solicitors, no politicians, no peddlers, no religious groups and maybe a couple other things on the list.  I hope it works. How dare they try to peddle their religion door to door. I don't go knocking on their door peddling my religion. There is one particular religion and their church is only about one mile down the hill from my house. So they work their way up stopping house to house. DUH, they have been to my house a million times...go away! I wish I could put a blinking neon light on the sign with a buzzer on it because I have a feeling they will still knock on the door regardless of the sign!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: mountain mustache on October 06, 2018, 01:41:40 PM
- I hate medical bills.
- I hate trying to pay medical bills, leaving endless messages, and never getting calls back when I am trying to give someone money.
- I hate my friends who have kids, and then completely ditch our friendship. I used to say I didn't mind, but it has happened with 4 friends now, and really sucks!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 06, 2018, 02:51:14 PM
I'm guilty of the "ditching friends after kids" thing. I gotta say, it's a major bummer on my side as well because friends are few and far between. Having kids makes life very different though. Leaving the house used to involve me throwing on my shoes and slicking back my hair. Now, we have a baby bag that inevitably needs something packed (change of clothes, snacks, diapers, wipes, blankets, pacifier), 2 babies that need their diaper changed right before we head out the door, have to make sure they are fed, dressed, and cleaned before leaving, and then we get to deal with the baby who threw up as we are halfway out the door while the other one is screaming. Don't even ask me to hang out without mama and the kids lol, I'm sorry but leaving the kids with her while I go to work is tough enough.

Maybe see if you can visit them, a game night or movie night? Ours are babies, so we do movies and pizza when my bro or friends come over. They love it, and it's low stress all the way around.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cookie78 on October 06, 2018, 03:18:43 PM
Suicide jokes and gestures

Ugh. I reflexively do this from time to time. I really try not to, and I hate myself every time I do it. But they slip out before I can stop them. I do apologize for them, though, because gross.

Thanks.
It never bothered me before, but now it just makes me see my brother's brains all over the truck (which thank god I never actually saw for real). Lately it's getting worse and I had a small meltdown at work when a friend/coworker did it and I struggled to breathe and to get the words out to ask her not to.

I'm so sorry.

<3
Thanks

Ironically all day yesterday I was frustrated at work and IN MY MIND I was making those same gestures. I'm hoping that between this and the meltdown I'm at some sort of tipping point and my reactivity will be dramatically lowered going forward.

It sounds like you could use some help with this. Have you tried contacting a support group?

I've tried a few different groups and counselors, especially in the beginning, but they never seemed very helpful for me. I know my mom gets a lot of help from them.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: TartanTallulah on October 07, 2018, 02:09:43 AM
Spending a couple of hours of every working day sifting through medical records to determine the significance of marginally abnormal lab results from scattergun tests requested by clinicians other than me on patients I've never even met.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: rocketshiprocks on October 07, 2018, 08:18:16 AM
Cockroach and flying cockroach!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 07, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
Stinkbugs and flies!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 07, 2018, 09:59:35 AM
The commercial for Peyronie's disease (curvature of the penis). It is on TV all the time. They say on the commercial that you can injure your penis during intercourse. OMG, do we really need to hear this and much worse do children need to be exposed to this?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cpa Cat on October 07, 2018, 10:01:58 AM
I hate leaf blowers. I think they should be illegal. People are constantly wandering around with leaf blowers, blowing lawn clippings, or nothing. Sometimes they just seem to walk around with them running on windy days because they have nothing better to do. I don't get it. It's the worst kind of useless noise pollution.


On the topic of appointment windows, I frequently have clients who try to do appointment windows. "I can be there between 1pm and 2pm, but it could be as late as 3pm." In my head, I always think, "What are you, the cable guy??" Out loud, I try to politely inform them that my schedule doesn't allow for that kind of open window and they'll have to pick a time.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dang1 on October 07, 2018, 11:03:20 AM
I hate scam / telemarketer phone calls.  They just don't stop.   I usually answer and hang up on them.

My solution is easy. Live is too short for picking up calls from unknown number. If it is legit, they can leave me a vm.
But then I have to call the vm and that is more work than just answering and hanging up.

I use Google Voice and vm that leave msgs, the msg gets transcribed and I can read in my notification that msg. If its spam, I block that number immediately. vm that dont leave a mgs goes directly into the spam folder- I dont get notification for calls that went directly to the spam folder, so I dont get bothered with those.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on October 07, 2018, 11:46:59 AM
I hate it when I am home on a Sunday morning and someone is banging at my front door. It is always
people trying to push their religion on us. My dogs go berserk barking as these jerks keep banging on the door. I typically won't answer the door. Just got a sign on the front door that says no solicitors, no politicians, no peddlers, no religious groups and maybe a couple other things on the list.  I hope it works. How dare they try to peddle their religion door to door. I don't go knocking on their door peddling my religion. There is one particular religion and their church is only about one mile down the hill from my house. So they work their way up stopping house to house. DUH, they have been to my house a million times...go away! I wish I could put a blinking neon light on the sign with a buzzer on it because I have a feeling they will still knock on the door regardless of the sign!
I have a list of things to say to piss off solicitors, religious or otherwise, posted on the inside of the front door. The religious things have been reviewed by current or former members of the likely proselytizing sects, and been approved/ disapproved.  Only used it once.  It is a MPP, in that, I'm all prepared, and no one tests the list.

Edit:  SUNDAY morning? Shouldn't most of them be in church?   

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 07, 2018, 12:12:14 PM
Not sure they go to church on Sundays, maybe Saturdays. They seem to be out in droves knocking on doors on Sundays. They bring a herd of 3 or 4 people to the door. Yeah, sure, I am going to let 4 strangers into my home to preach to me. Why don't they do something useful like help some homeless people.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Pigeon on October 08, 2018, 06:33:48 AM
Not sure they go to church on Sundays, maybe Saturdays. They seem to be out in droves knocking on doors on Sundays. They bring a herd of 3 or 4 people to the door. Yeah, sure, I am going to let 4 strangers into my home to preach to me. Why don't they do something useful like help some homeless people.

Even worse IMO, are the ones who come after dark.  You probably know the drill, two very clean cut extremely young "elders," in white shirts and ties.  No, I'm still not answering the door, even if you have a name tag on.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 08, 2018, 07:04:30 AM
Can't say I have had them come to the door at night, mostly Sunday's. It is kind of funny because the tv is near the front door so I know they can hear it and the dogs are barking. We can peek out the front window to see who is at the front door. We just let them stand there and bang on the door till they leave! LOL!
Usually a boat load of people in one car when they leave. Then I see them drive up my neighbors driveway. Seems they leave pretty quick. My neighbor probably tells them to get the hell off his property and drag their A$$!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 08, 2018, 07:21:11 AM
Have you noticed the bottle caps on water lately. They are half the size and hard to grip to twist off. Then the bottles are so thin that when you do manage to get the cap off you end up with water all over from holding the bottle too tight. They have made the bottle so thin and the cap so small, how can they manage to cheapen it further? I am sure they will come up with something to make it more miserable.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on October 08, 2018, 07:52:57 AM
Have you noticed the bottle caps on water lately. They are half the size and hard to grip to twist off. Then the bottles are so thin that when you do manage to get the cap off you end up with water all over from holding the bottle too tight. They have made the bottle so thin and the cap so small, how can they manage to cheapen it further? I am sure they will come up with something to make it more miserable.

Hopefully they come up with not selling it anymore!

Solution: reusable water bottle :)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on October 08, 2018, 07:57:05 AM
I hate water bottles too, maybe for a different reason.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/operations/2012/06/poland_spring_s_new_bottles_why_are_they_so_thin_and_flimsy_.html

Like you said, companies are trying to save money but I'm all for minimizing the plastic waste they create. If these little bottles are miserable, you should get something reusable.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 08, 2018, 08:39:53 AM
I hate water bottles too, maybe for a different reason.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/operations/2012/06/poland_spring_s_new_bottles_why_are_they_so_thin_and_flimsy_.html

Like you said, companies are trying to save money but I'm all for minimizing the plastic waste they create. If these little bottles are miserable, you should get something reusable.

I do use a stainless steel to go thermal bottle but once in a while I do drink out of a water bottle. Really, water bottles are controversial but think of all the other plastic out there. Juice, frozen fruit in plastic bags, cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese in plastic bags, soda, just about everything in the grocery store has some kind of plastic, even bread and milk.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on October 08, 2018, 09:08:29 AM
I hate water bottles too, maybe for a different reason.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/operations/2012/06/poland_spring_s_new_bottles_why_are_they_so_thin_and_flimsy_.html

Like you said, companies are trying to save money but I'm all for minimizing the plastic waste they create. If these little bottles are miserable, you should get something reusable.

I do use a stainless steel to go thermal bottle but once in a while I do drink out of a water bottle. Really, water bottles are controversial but think of all the other plastic out there. Juice, frozen fruit in plastic bags, cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese in plastic bags, soda, just about everything in the grocery store has some kind of plastic, even bread and milk.

Indeed, I was trying not to sound too preachy. I often think of the other types of bottled drinks when someone complains about how wasteful bottled water is. Is buying bottled water with sugar and dyes added for a higher price somehow superior? Not to mention soda bottles use more plastic because they need to withstand the pressure of carbonation.

Well then it's settled. I hate drinks in disposable bottles. (except when I really really want one)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Schaefer Light on October 08, 2018, 09:13:30 AM
When my rewards credit card gets hacked 2 days before I'm scheduled to make a big purchase.  I had to disable the card yesterday and won't have a replacement until after the big purchase has been made, thus missing out on the rewards points.  Damn hackers.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 08, 2018, 09:20:08 AM
I hate water bottles too, maybe for a different reason.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/operations/2012/06/poland_spring_s_new_bottles_why_are_they_so_thin_and_flimsy_.html

Like you said, companies are trying to save money but I'm all for minimizing the plastic waste they create. If these little bottles are miserable, you should get something reusable.

I do use a stainless steel to go thermal bottle but once in a while I do drink out of a water bottle. Really, water bottles are controversial but think of all the other plastic out there. Juice, frozen fruit in plastic bags, cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese in plastic bags, soda, just about everything in the grocery store has some kind of plastic, even bread and milk.

Indeed, I was trying not to sound too preachy. I often think of the other types of bottled drinks when someone complains about how wasteful bottled water is. Is buying bottled water with sugar and dyes added for a higher price somehow superior? Not to mention soda bottles use more plastic because they need to withstand the pressure of carbonation.

Well then it's settled. I hate drinks in disposable bottles. (except when I really really want one)

I am sure there is no real incentive for companies to do away with plastic. Maybe someday there will be cost effective environmentally friendly packaging materials.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 08, 2018, 09:57:34 AM
Just heard a commercial for Pepto Bismol and they were singing about stomach upset and diarrhea. Songs about the Big D! Gotta have a jingle for everything!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 08, 2018, 10:57:25 AM
Just heard a commercial for Pepto Bismol and they were singing about stomach upset and diarrhea. Songs about the Big D! Gotta have a jingle for everything!
Not the D word would I would immediately connect with that phrase...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 09, 2018, 01:10:55 AM
Hardware of software not working as expected. Like things that worked the day or the week before that now don't, for whatever reason. Happens frequently at work, but occasionally also at home.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 09, 2018, 05:25:28 AM
Hardware of software not working as expected. Like things that worked the day or the week before that now don't, for whatever reason. Happens frequently at work, but occasionally also at home.
This is why I have a job! :D
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: FamilyGuy on October 11, 2018, 09:14:14 PM
Hate to waste food. Because of my unpredictable room mate, significant amounts of cooked food ends up in fridge and I had to eat it out. Rather Iíd cook and eat something fresh.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: talltexan on October 12, 2018, 10:33:06 AM
I was at Half-Priced books a few years ago and bought a Leonard Cohen album I'd never heard of before called "Death of A Salesman."

It is truly awful. We're talking 1970's film project music awful. I considered trying to make back the money I spent by wager other people that they would be unable to listen to it without using the FF button at least once.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: FamilyGuy on October 12, 2018, 09:32:35 PM
One way and if someone is way below the speed limit. I am okay if they are old people. But not the ones talking on mobile phones. It often happens at my commute.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dollar Slice on October 12, 2018, 09:51:56 PM
I was at Half-Priced books a few years ago and bought a Leonard Cohen album I'd never heard of before called "Death of A Salesman."

It is truly awful. We're talking 1970's film project music awful. I considered trying to make back the money I spent by wager other people that they would be unable to listen to it without using the FF button at least once.

Maybe you got a bootleg or something, because I'm pretty sure no Leonard Cohen album by that name exists...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 12, 2018, 11:18:52 PM
^Perhaps it was Death of a Ladies Man.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: lost_in_the_endless_aisle on October 13, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
Death of a Ladies' Man is probably his worst album
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 13, 2018, 12:36:59 PM
MLMs. I know there's a thread where everyone bashes these things, but now I hate em. I contacted a former supervisor of mine to see if he'd be willing to be listed as a reference in my job search, he said yep and would help me out with my resume if needed. Well, that was great then he invited me to his office. I had a sneaking feeling he was into MLM BS because he once told me he was into sales but wouldn't say what he was selling. Go there, and was pitched by him and his "boss" or whatever they call him. Thankfully I was able to stop em and end it before it took too much of my time... No help on the resume and now he and his boss have my info. Ack!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 15, 2018, 11:24:17 AM
Having to drive the long way to work, because the short road is closed. And on the long way they are also doing roadworks and today I had to wait for 15! minutes before my direction was prioritized on the one way stretch.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 15, 2018, 11:31:26 AM
My town has one main bridge which is the closest for me to cross over the river. It is a two lane old bridge from the 1950's. It is a huge bottle neck and even if we had 4 lanes (2 coming and 2 going) the traffic is so heavy there still would be no where to go. We have two other bridges and they are also two lane bridges but the traffic is much less. However, they are both out of the way in both directions. I hate traffic.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: FamilyGuy on October 15, 2018, 09:07:36 PM
Having to drive the long way to work, because the short road is closed. And on the long way they are also doing roadworks and today I had to wait for 15! minutes before my direction was prioritized on the one way stretch.

I have the same issue. My commute is already long enough with a school on the way. Now there is a road construction going on and it is one-way. They had to manually stop one lane and let another. This has been going for a while now.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Freedomin5 on October 17, 2018, 03:36:27 AM
People going the wrong way in a one-way bike lane.
People blowing cigarette smoke in your face.
People cutting in front of you without looking at traffic when biking.
People who stop at the bottom/top of the escalator in the subway station during rush hour.
People on scooters and motorcycles who like to wait until they are directly beside you to honk loudly right in your ear.
People who like to stand in the middle of the bike lane while waiting for the lights to change.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 17, 2018, 04:08:09 AM
I hate it when the baggers at the grocery store put 100 lbs. of groceries in one bag. Or put the bread in with a gallon of milk and the bread gets squashed. I do not understand how this job is so difficult. I would pack like items, produce together, cold stuff together, dairy together or with the cold items. Most times when I unload the groceries in my car, I have to repack, especially the cold stuff in the summer. UGH!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 17, 2018, 07:49:10 AM
People passing you on the pavement, in opposite direction, while coughing without holding anything in front of their face.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 17, 2018, 07:57:10 AM
I hate it when the baggers at the grocery store put 100 lbs. of groceries in one bag. Or put the bread in with a gallon of milk and the bread gets squashed. I do not understand how this job is so difficult. I would pack like items, produce together, cold stuff together, dairy together or with the cold items. Most times when I unload the groceries in my car, I have to repack, especially the cold stuff in the summer. UGH!
Some are extremely good at their job and pack everything sanely. 

Some put bananas and potatoes on top of the lettuce and tomatoes.  Some find a way to use more bags than items purchased (or double bag EVERYTHING).
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 17, 2018, 08:05:15 AM
Tics. I had to remove 2 out of my legs last night (tuesday evening).

Last time I was in the forest was on Sunday with long trousers on. How they get into my legs is not clear, but I suspect my sanitary visits in the forest might be the cause.

I am currently in the process of getting a series of vaccines against tic brain infection. But this won't help against the borrelia infection they can cause we well.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: talltexan on October 17, 2018, 09:33:34 AM
Death of a Ladies' Man is probably his worst album

I looked it up, and you're correct on the name. Thanks for setting me straight.

I cannot even find that disk right now, a fact that should make me grateful. I remember the cover photo, with him sitting in between two women who look so unhappy to even be in that photo. It's like the whole project is radio-active or something. That album wasn't release, it probably just escaped.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Schaefer Light on October 17, 2018, 01:35:10 PM
People who plant landscaping along the side of the road in a place that makes it hard to see if any traffic is coming.  You have to stick the nose of your car into the traffic lane to be able to get a view, and at that point you're in the way and may cause an accident.  I have a fantasy about driving around town with a chainsaw late at night and hacking down all the bushes that are too close to the roadside.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on October 17, 2018, 01:39:14 PM
Tics. I had to remove 2 out of my legs last night (tuesday evening).

Last time I was in the forest was on Sunday with long trousers on. How they get into my legs is not clear, but I suspect my sanitary visits in the forest might be the cause.

I am currently in the process of getting a series of vaccines against tic brain infection. But this won't help against the borrelia infection they can cause we well.

I've done a fair bit of hiking and have had better luck wearing shorts than with pants. Possibly harder to grasp skin than cloth? Just anecdotal though.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: lost_in_the_endless_aisle on October 17, 2018, 07:54:15 PM
Death of a Ladies' Man is probably his worst album

I looked it up, and you're correct on the name. Thanks for setting me straight.

I cannot even find that disk right now, a fact that should make me grateful. I remember the cover photo, with him sitting in between two women who look so unhappy to even be in that photo. It's like the whole project is radio-active or something. That album wasn't release, it probably just escaped.
Here is a fun fact: it appears Cohen has just had a 2015 poem posthumously published about Kanye West (https://www.npr.org/2018/10/12/657035439/leonard-cohens-poem-kanye-west-is-not-picasso-as-read-by-michael-shannon). Filed under "not even bad"
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Freedomin5 on October 18, 2018, 03:16:46 AM
Today, I hate people who weave left...right...left...right...while biking in the wrong direction down a one-way bike lane.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: talltexan on October 18, 2018, 08:09:03 AM
I don't do enough biking, but participating with this group has conditioned me so that--whenever I see someone biking--I think to myself, "There goes a millionaire!"
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 21, 2018, 02:41:37 PM
I placed an on line order on October 9th. Got the email confirming my order. Never got a tracking number. Then on October 17th was informed the stuff was shipped and was coming SurePost. It is due to be delivered October 24th! Fifteen days from my placing the order to receiving it! RIDICULOUS! I emailed them and told them I was not happy and would think twice from ever ordering from them again. They responded and said they were sorry and refunded me $5. I am really hating these cheap shipping methods. This package was coming from Ohio to CT. Not like it was around the world! GRRRRRR! 7 days to send a package from Ohio to CT! An old mule could make it quicker!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: mountain mustache on October 21, 2018, 02:54:59 PM
I hate it when I leave food out to defrost, remind myself at least a dozen times not to forget to put it away before I fall asleep...and then I fall asleep anyway and wake up in the morning to food (usually raw meat, gross!) that I now have to waste by throwing it out. This doesn't happen often, but when it does I feel like the most wasteful person ever.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 21, 2018, 03:13:51 PM
I hate it when I leave food out to defrost, remind myself at least a dozen times not to forget to put it away before I fall asleep...and then I fall asleep anyway and wake up in the morning to food (usually raw meat, gross!) that I now have to waste by throwing it out. This doesn't happen often, but when it does I feel like the most wasteful person ever.

Done that with cooked food too! Fall asleep and hours later wake up. That is no good! Buy yourself an oven timer with a clip and hook it onto your shirt. Put the time on it and let it count down and when it beeps it will wake you up! I have to take eye drops morning and night and the doc wants it to be more specifically timed so I have the timer set for 6 am for the first drop and then 7 am for the second drop. Then I put in 11 hours and have to repeat the same thing at 6 and 7 pm. It drives me to the nuthouse but I am keeping up with a rigid schedule. I have glaucoma and the pressure keeps going up and down. Hopefully, this rigid routine and eye drops will bring the pressure down.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on October 22, 2018, 10:05:14 AM
I hate it when I leave food out to defrost, remind myself at least a dozen times not to forget to put it away before I fall asleep...and then I fall asleep anyway and wake up in the morning to food (usually raw meat, gross!) that I now have to waste by throwing it out. This doesn't happen often, but when it does I feel like the most wasteful person ever.

Set a reminder on your phone. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on October 22, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
Hardware of software not working as expected. Like things that worked the day or the week before that now don't, for whatever reason. Happens frequently at work, but occasionally also at home.

It annoys me when software updates focus on snazzy new features that introduce new bugs instead of focusing on fixing the existing ones. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 22, 2018, 10:24:10 AM
Hardware of software not working as expected. Like things that worked the day or the week before that now don't, for whatever reason. Happens frequently at work, but occasionally also at home.

It annoys me when software updates focus on snazzy new features that introduce new bugs instead of focusing on fixing the existing ones.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvern_Instruments
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 22, 2018, 12:39:22 PM
Hardware of software not working as expected. Like things that worked the day or the week before that now don't, for whatever reason. Happens frequently at work, but occasionally also at home.

It annoys me when software updates focus on snazzy new features that introduce new bugs instead of focusing on fixing the existing ones.

Or take away very functional features! My old gingerbread os phone had the BEST intelligent word prediction, still miss it. Now Google's word prediction really really sucks, to the point that half of their predictions don't even make any grammatical sense.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 22, 2018, 11:50:52 PM
Or take away very functional features! My old gingerbread os phone had the BEST intelligent word prediction, still miss it. Now Google's word prediction really really sucks, to the point that half of their predictions don't even make any grammatical sense.

This! My bank has taken away the transaction tracking function, like Mint. Now I'm doing this tracking manually in Excel, which is way more work then the bank doing it automatically and I only need to make small corrections.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: megaschnauzer on October 23, 2018, 10:13:49 AM
Hardware of software not working as expected. Like things that worked the day or the week before that now don't, for whatever reason. Happens frequently at work, but occasionally also at home.

It annoys me when software updates focus on snazzy new features that introduce new bugs instead of focusing on fixing the existing ones.

yes. autocad is the worst.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Free Spirit on October 23, 2018, 11:51:33 AM
I hate how every building has to have their A/C set at an ungodly low temperature. I went grocery shopping yesterday and was so cold that I couldn't feel my nose, my hands were stiff, and I forgot half of the items I needed because I was so concentrated on getting warm. I was dressed appropriately enough for the weather outside but I guess I'll take my parka with me today even though it's 70įF and sunny.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cache_Stash on October 23, 2018, 12:06:11 PM
First World problems.  Doncha think?

Of course, I like to whine from time to time as well. :)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MNBen on October 24, 2018, 11:10:32 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Free Spirit on October 24, 2018, 11:24:19 AM
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Category-5-Super-Typhoon-Yutu-Pounding-US-Northern-Mariana-Islands
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on October 24, 2018, 11:31:24 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.
Yep, when I mention nearly anywhere on the globe (and even in the US**) I look like a relative genius for even KNOWing that these places exist.

I had to dig deep into the NOAA website to even find Yutu.   I thank MNBen for the notice, as I'm on a low information diet.

**Washington DC and Washington State are two completely different entities and locations, dammitt :-)

Re: Roadrunner's note on teachers.  I had a Social Studies teacher, who had been the football coach, who stated that New Guinea is "off the coast of South America".   Which is sort of true in that you can probably draw a great circle route between South America and New Guinea without hitting a land mass. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on October 24, 2018, 11:41:36 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Younger me meeting someone abroad:

Person: I'm from Georgia.
Me in my head: Whoa sounds like they're from Russia, not Georgia (The state)

*Facepalm younger self*
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 24, 2018, 11:54:40 AM
Well, this brings up another thing I hate(d). When I was a younger me and was in school, one particular history class was taught by an older male teacher. He was the most BORING teacher ever. He had to have been teaching for 45 years and spoke in a monotone voice that absolutely put me to sleep. Our history books were all in black and white...boring. This is one reason people can't learn history! I love history now! I did have another history teacher in high school who was fantastic and made history interesting. Teachers make the difference. Some teachers whether old or young make the difference. Boring teachers should leave. Some of these teachers just don't have a way to bring history alive in the classroom. All the kids can imagine is people who lived 300 years ago that are long gone. But history is important to guide us to our futures.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MNBen on October 24, 2018, 12:38:38 PM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Younger me meeting someone abroad:

Person: I'm from Georgia.
Me in my head: Whoa sounds like they're from Russia, not Georgia (The state)

*Facepalm younger self*

Me traveling around US...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota


Me traveling abroad for first time...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota

*Facepalm younger self*
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MNBen on October 24, 2018, 12:41:06 PM
Yep, when I mention nearly anywhere on the globe (and even in the US**) I look like a relative genius for even KNOWing that these places exist.

US President talking to press yesterday about the caravan (being caught in a lie):

"Let me just tell you something. I spoke with Border Patrol this morning. And I spoke to them last evening, and I spoke to them the day before. I speak to them all the time.

And they say -- and you know this as well as anybody -- over the course of the year, over the course of a number of years, they've intercepted many people from the Middle East. They've intercepted ISIS, they've intercepted all sorts of people.

They've intercepted good ones and bad ones, they've intercepted wonderful people from the Middle East, and they've intercepted bad ones, they've intercepted wonderful people from South America and from other parts further south."
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Freedomin5 on October 24, 2018, 11:32:16 PM
Yep, when I mention nearly anywhere on the globe (and even in the US**) I look like a relative genius for even KNOWing that these places exist.

US President talking to press yesterday about the caravan (being caught in a lie):

"Let me just tell you something. I spoke with Border Patrol this morning. And I spoke to them last evening, and I spoke to them the day before. I speak to them all the time.

And they say -- and you know this as well as anybody -- over the course of the year, over the course of a number of years, they've intercepted many people from the Middle East. They've intercepted ISIS, they've intercepted all sorts of people.

They've intercepted good ones and bad ones, they've intercepted wonderful people from the Middle East, and they've intercepted bad ones, they've intercepted wonderful people from South America and from other parts further south."

Hey! You never know, they may have intercepted people from Antarctica. According to Google, there are approximately 4400 people living in Antarctica.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on October 24, 2018, 11:54:27 PM
Yep, when I mention nearly anywhere on the globe (and even in the US**) I look like a relative genius for even KNOWing that these places exist.

US President talking to press yesterday about the caravan (being caught in a lie):

"Let me just tell you something. I spoke with Border Patrol this morning. And I spoke to them last evening, and I spoke to them the day before. I speak to them all the time.

And they say -- and you know this as well as anybody -- over the course of the year, over the course of a number of years, they've intercepted many people from the Middle East. They've intercepted ISIS, they've intercepted all sorts of people.

They've intercepted good ones and bad ones, they've intercepted wonderful people from the Middle East, and they've intercepted bad ones, they've intercepted wonderful people from South America and from other parts further south."

Hey! You never know, they may have intercepted people from Antarctica. According to Google, there are approximately 4400 people living in Antarctica.
Penguins!   At least the wall need only be a 3 feet ~ 1meter high, except where it abutts deep water.
Those penguins get quit a swimming start and pop out of the water like an SLBM.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 25, 2018, 01:16:08 AM
I hate having a day off and mentally not being able to get out of the house. I am so in doubt about different options that I end up not going.
But the day is still young. I hope to get over it pretty soon.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: talltexan on October 25, 2018, 09:17:07 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Younger me meeting someone abroad:

Person: I'm from Georgia.
Me in my head: Whoa sounds like they're from Russia, not Georgia (The state)

*Facepalm younger self*

Me traveling around US...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota


Me traveling abroad for first time...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota

*Facepalm younger self*

Funny, I never had any problems identifying myself as a resident of a US state when speaking with people abroad. Maybe certain states are just better known to non-US residents?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on October 25, 2018, 09:24:37 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Younger me meeting someone abroad:

Person: I'm from Georgia.
Me in my head: Whoa sounds like they're from Russia, not Georgia (The state)

*Facepalm younger self*

Me traveling around US...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota


Me traveling abroad for first time...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota

*Facepalm younger self*

Funny, I never had any problems identifying myself as a resident of a US state when speaking with people abroad. Maybe certain states are just better known to non-US residents?

If you're from Texas, the accent is a pretty big giveaway too.  Y'all.  :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 25, 2018, 09:50:43 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Younger me meeting someone abroad:

Person: I'm from Georgia.
Me in my head: Whoa sounds like they're from Russia, not Georgia (The state)

*Facepalm younger self*

Me traveling around US...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota


Me traveling abroad for first time...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota

*Facepalm younger self*

Funny, I never had any problems identifying myself as a resident of a US state when speaking with people abroad. Maybe certain states are just better known to non-US residents?

If you're from Texas, the accent is a pretty big giveaway too.  Y'all.  :P
Don't underestimate how much American accents all blend together for the rest of the world.  My GF grew up in Arizona and has lived in Illinois for the last 6 years.  A customs guy in Brussels asked (due to her accent) if she was from Boston.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: YttriumNitrate on October 25, 2018, 09:54:32 AM
I really hate the custom of saying "bless you" after a sneeze. Mainly because it puts the sneezer in the awkward situation of having to say "thank you" while they are likely gearing up for another sneeze.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on October 25, 2018, 10:12:12 AM
I really hate the custom of saying "bless you" after a sneeze. Mainly because it puts the sneezer in the awkward situation of having to say "thank you" while they are likely gearing up for another sneeze.

I hate that, too. I mean, there's really no reason for it. It's the equivalent of saying, "You sneezed." Like, I don't feel the need to narrate someone's actions when they cough, or hiccup, or clear their throat, or scratch their nose. I understand why this started way back in the day, but can't we just stop feeling the need to say something when someone sneezes?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 25, 2018, 10:59:20 AM
I really hate the custom of saying "bless you" after a sneeze. Mainly because it puts the sneezer in the awkward situation of having to say "thank you" while they are likely gearing up for another sneeze.

Alternatively I hate feeling the obligation to say "bless you"! It is kind of dumb. When I was a kid my dad would try to make it funny by trying to make us "lose" a sneeze, usually by doing a really exaggerated fake sneeze.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on October 25, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
I really hate the custom of saying "bless you" after a sneeze. Mainly because it puts the sneezer in the awkward situation of having to say "thank you" while they are likely gearing up for another sneeze.

Alternatively I hate feeling the obligation to say "bless you"! It is kind of dumb. When I was a kid my dad would try to make it funny by trying to make us "lose" a sneeze, usually by doing a really exaggerated fake sneeze.

Somehow, in our family it's become a joke to say, "May God smite you in his mercy" when one of us sneezes. "God smite you" for short.

Unfortunately, we've been doing it so long that now when I'm out in public it's really hard not to just do it as a reflex. :D
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on October 25, 2018, 11:43:02 AM
It bothers me that US Citizens aren't more educated about World Geography, or even the US Territories, outside of basically trying to learn the 50 United States...

Right now the islands of Saipan and Tinian (~50,000 population) are being hit by one of the largest storms ever on the planet - Super Typhoon Yutu - with sustained winds of 180+ mph and gusts 200+ mph.

These are not only US Territories (US Citizens) but I think the general US public is so misinformed, I can't even find it on any common news sources.

Younger me meeting someone abroad:

Person: I'm from Georgia.
Me in my head: Whoa sounds like they're from Russia, not Georgia (The state)

*Facepalm younger self*

Me traveling around US...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota


Me traveling abroad for first time...

Person:  Where are you from?
Me:  Minnesota

*Facepalm younger self*

Funny, I never had any problems identifying myself as a resident of a US state when speaking with people abroad. Maybe certain states are just better known to non-US residents?

Depends on the location for me. When I went to New Zealand in 2003, I started off by introducing myself as from "the United States" under the assumption that they wouldn't know all the U.S. states. I quickly noticed that everyone inquired about the state I was from, so I just started saying I was from Georgia. Many of my acquaintances would further ask about where I was from in Georgia, which really surprised me. Most knew where Atlanta was, and several actually knew where Savannah was (which was only about an hour from where I grew up). It was really obvious that Kiwis were far better-versed in our geography that we were in theirs. Basically the same thing happens when I've travelled to Europe. I say I'm from Georgia, and only once or twice has someone been confused about whether I meant the state or the country.

On the other hand, when I visit Latin American countries, I introduce myself as from the "Estados Unidos", and 80-90% of the people will be satisfied with that answer. For those who want specifics, I'm happy to divulge.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Freedomin5 on October 25, 2018, 10:52:31 PM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 25, 2018, 11:46:46 PM
I hate when DH's watch starts to go off in alarm modus at 6:30 am on my day off. Even more so when DH is not home and I don't know how to turn it off. Tonight I will put it in another part of the house.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on October 26, 2018, 07:34:05 AM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.

Upgrade the belt on your pants and shoulder bag.

(https://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/catalog/thumbs/spikes/3rowbritconebtblk.jpg)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on October 26, 2018, 07:55:10 AM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.

I no longer ride the train on a regular basis, but that used to happen to me, too.

Eventually I got really fed up. After that, whenever it happened, I would turn around, look the person in the face and loudly yell, for everyone else to hear, "Will you please stop using the fact that this train is crowded as an excuse to rub your penis against me, you disgusting pervert?!?"

It was a very effective means of stopping the behavior.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on October 26, 2018, 08:40:31 AM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.

Where is this?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on October 26, 2018, 08:46:36 AM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.

Where is this?

Every crowded train with women on it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on October 26, 2018, 09:06:17 AM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.

Where is this?

Every crowded train with women on it.

This blows. I'm over here annoyed just when someone leaves their backpack on and it hits you everytime they back up and they can't feel it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on October 26, 2018, 12:22:15 PM
This blows. I'm over here annoyed just when someone leaves their backpack on and it hits you everytime they back up and they can't feel it.

Very familiar. I am so glad I don't need to take the train anymore.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: foobaz on October 26, 2018, 10:12:17 PM
I hate how when I open a website to read the news, it's dominated by one particular politician every single day. I used to enjoy reading news, now it just makes me agitated.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Freedomin5 on October 27, 2018, 04:50:27 AM
Today I hate perverts on the train who use the excuse that it's crowded to lean back against your chest and private parts and start rubbing when the train bumps slightly on the tracks.

Upgrade the belt on your pants and shoulder bag.

(https://www.angryyoungandpoor.com/store/pc/catalog/thumbs/spikes/3rowbritconebtblk.jpg)

LOL. Thanks, I needed that. Going to sew a patch like that on the arms of my coat and on my backpack as well. Thatís brilliant!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 27, 2018, 06:22:07 AM
Maybe some of this too!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-CANS-OF-FART-BOMB-SPRAY-STINKY-SMELLY-GAS-STINK-BOMBS-GAG-GIFT-PRANK-JOKE/271564289148?hash=item3f3a7e347c:g:g-gAAOSwzZFbXFqS:rk:4:pf:1&frcectupt=true&autorefresh=true
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Parton on October 27, 2018, 11:05:52 PM
There are a lot of things that get out of the rut and make you nervous, but there is nothing that you could not cope with. The only thing that pisses me off is human qualities such as irresponsibility, self-interest, not sincerity, etc.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on October 31, 2018, 01:21:53 PM
Today I went to the grocery store and the cashier was SO annoying! I bought these nylon shower scrubbies and she went on to lecture me to wash them. That people touch them and they fall on the floor and they get germs on them! OMG! She was picking them up by the tag like they were infected with small pox!

Then I asked her to pack the cold stuff in my insulated bag and she put apples in first thing and I told her they weren't COLD. She had a long explanation on why she thought they should go in there. Then I had hamburger meat which I had already placed in a plastic bag to guard from leaking and she asked if I wanted it into another bag. I said yes but just to shut her up. She kept asking me if she was doing okay. I said yes. She kept talking and talking and wanted me to answer her. She was slow as molasses and the line in back of me grew and grew. Then when we were all done, she asked me if I wanted her to check on the hamburger meat she packed to see if it was okay. I have no idea what this nit wit was talking about but she would not shut up! Still she asked me if she was doing okay. I said YES but I just about ran out of the store screaming! My only explanation of all this is that she was in trouble for not being jolly with the customers and she was going over the deep end with this crap! I really wanted to use some foul language and tell her to shut the you know what up! This wasn't just idle chit chat it was total idiotic nonsense! UGH! Who checks the hamburger meat in your bag when it was already packed and at the bottom of the bag?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: magnet18 on October 31, 2018, 01:29:05 PM
Celery

+1
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on October 31, 2018, 01:33:36 PM
Celery

+1
Raw celery, yes.  Cooked celery is excellent though.  (Same rule applies to broccoli.  I'll eat 2+lbs of roasted broccoli straight off the pan if you let me, but I'll only have a few bites of it raw.)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Jouer on October 31, 2018, 01:57:54 PM
I hate water bottles too, maybe for a different reason.

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/operations/2012/06/poland_spring_s_new_bottles_why_are_they_so_thin_and_flimsy_.html

Like you said, companies are trying to save money but I'm all for minimizing the plastic waste they create. If these little bottles are miserable, you should get something reusable.

I do use a stainless steel to go thermal bottle but once in a while I do drink out of a water bottle. Really, water bottles are controversial but think of all the other plastic out there. Juice, frozen fruit in plastic bags, cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese in plastic bags, soda, just about everything in the grocery store has some kind of plastic, even bread and milk.
If those other items were available from my tap I'd happily forego buying them in plastic containers.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: mountain mustache on October 31, 2018, 02:49:14 PM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on October 31, 2018, 06:37:10 PM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?

You people are monsters.  Celery with the little trench stuffed with peanut butter is one of the highlights of gourmet flavour.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: mountain mustache on October 31, 2018, 07:07:33 PM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?

You people are monsters.  Celery with the little trench stuffed with peanut butter is one of the highlights of gourmet flavour.

no no no!! peanut butter doesn't deserve to be treated that way! I never understood this flavor combo, and my mom packed "ants on a log" for me all the time for school lunch. yuck!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Sloeginfizz on October 31, 2018, 07:38:00 PM
Peanut butter? Ugh. Why would you put that loathsome foul sludge on lovely, crunchy celery.

Also, besides peanut butter, I hate bananas.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on October 31, 2018, 08:44:21 PM
I come to this forum because I value the opinions of its members. This thread makes me question that.

Celery, peanut butter, bananas, and raisins, in any combination, are all excellent foodstuffs.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on October 31, 2018, 09:27:44 PM
I really hate the custom of saying "bless you" after a sneeze. Mainly because it puts the sneezer in the awkward situation of having to say "thank you" while they are likely gearing up for another sneeze.

Alternatively I hate feeling the obligation to say "bless you"! It is kind of dumb. When I was a kid my dad would try to make it funny by trying to make us "lose" a sneeze, usually by doing a really exaggerated fake sneeze.

Somehow, in our family it's become a joke to say, "May God smite you in his mercy" when one of us sneezes. "God smite you" for short.

Unfortunately, we've been doing it so long that now when I'm out in public it's really hard not to just do it as a reflex. :D

"God smite you," gonna have to steal that!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 01, 2018, 03:57:13 AM
Not sure if celery should be on the hate list. Celery has some things beneficial to health: https://www.care2.com/greenliving/11-super-health-benefits-in-just-1-celery-stalk.html

Chefs use these combos in a lot of tasty foods:

Mirepoix: Onions, celery, carrots.

Holy Trinity: Onions, celery, green bell peppers.


Other tasty uses of celery:

Celery with cream cheese.

Celery in a bloody Mary.


Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 01, 2018, 05:46:20 AM
I used hate the first day back to work after a long vacation. I went kicking and screaming back into hell!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: JanetJackson on November 01, 2018, 06:12:02 AM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?

+3
I got the chills just now when I READ the word 'Celery.'

EW.
*Cooked it is moderately tolerable, but barely.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: slackmax on November 01, 2018, 06:26:38 AM
The fact that it takes a full minute for someone using a card to go through all the beeps when checking out at a store. Beep. Wait. Push key. Wait. Beep. Wait. Press dig pen on something. Wait. Stare at screen. OK, a full minute went by, finally done. Only took 20 seconds to ring it up and bag it, then a full minute with the beeping, which is supposed to make things faster, not slower. Paying with cash takes about 10 seconds. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Schaefer Light on November 01, 2018, 06:43:22 AM
Cooked celery?  How do you dip it in ranch or bleu cheese, then?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 01, 2018, 07:09:01 AM
Cooked celery?  How do you dip it in ranch or bleu cheese, then?
Even raw celery doesn't deserve to be ruined by ranch or bleu cheese.

/ducks
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on November 01, 2018, 07:36:37 AM
The fact that it takes a full minute for someone using a card to go through all the beeps when checking out at a store. Beep. Wait. Push key. Wait. Beep. Wait. Press dig pen on something. Wait. Stare at screen. OK, a full minute went by, finally done. Only took 20 seconds to ring it up and bag it, then a full minute with the beeping, which is supposed to make things faster, not slower. Paying with cash takes about 10 seconds.

Also all of the variations of the machines for card processing. Can we just get some monopolization already? Thx.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Pigeon on November 01, 2018, 12:03:13 PM
I come to this forum because I value the opinions of its members. This thread makes me question that.

Celery, peanut butter, bananas, and raisins, in any combination, are all excellent foodstuffs.
Since you brought it up, celery is fine, but raisins are horrible. Grapes with all the joy sucked out of them. Few things are sadder than finding baked goods defiled by raisins. It's like baking dead flies into your cookies.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Schaefer Light on November 01, 2018, 01:09:11 PM
I come to this forum because I value the opinions of its members. This thread makes me question that.

Celery, peanut butter, bananas, and raisins, in any combination, are all excellent foodstuffs.
Since you brought it up, celery is fine, but raisins are horrible. Grapes with all the joy sucked out of them. Few things are sadder than finding baked goods defiled by raisins. It's like baking dead flies into your cookies.
Totally agree.  I hate it when people ruin a perfectly good cookie by putting raisins in it.  Disgusting.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 01, 2018, 01:23:37 PM
I come to this forum because I value the opinions of its members. This thread makes me question that.

Celery, peanut butter, bananas, and raisins, in any combination, are all excellent foodstuffs.
Since you brought it up, celery is fine, but raisins are horrible. Grapes with all the joy sucked out of them. Few things are sadder than finding baked goods defiled by raisins. It's like baking dead flies into your cookies.
Totally agree.  I hate it when people ruin a perfectly good cookie by putting raisins in it.  Disgusting.

+1000.

WTH is wrong with people who make oatmeal raisin cookies? Oatmeal chocolate chip is delicious. Why would you ruin a perfectly good cookie like that?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on November 01, 2018, 01:34:20 PM
I come to this forum because I value the opinions of its members. This thread makes me question that.

Celery, peanut butter, bananas, and raisins, in any combination, are all excellent foodstuffs.
Since you brought it up, celery is fine, but raisins are horrible. Grapes with all the joy sucked out of them. Few things are sadder than finding baked goods defiled by raisins. It's like baking dead flies into your cookies.
Totally agree.  I hate it when people ruin a perfectly good cookie by putting raisins in it.  Disgusting.

+1000.

WTH is wrong with people who make oatmeal raisin cookies? Oatmeal chocolate chip is delicious. Why would you ruin a perfectly good cookie like that?

Because health. Kinda like Diet Coke with your fries haha.

I will accept "craisins" or dried cranberries on cookies though, at least they have a sort of interesting taste, especially paired with orange zest.

I once had the displeasure of eating carrot cake that had raisins instead of nuts. What a rip-off that was!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 01, 2018, 02:02:42 PM
I like raisins sometimes.  You get tired of them a lot quicker than chocolate chips, and if you're not expecting them they're pretty horrible but they have their place (in oatmeal with cinnamon, oatmeal raisin cookies, pumpkin muffins, etc.).  As my age has climbed up, I've noticed that raisin tolerance has increased significantly.

Can we all agree to hate on Christmas cake though?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on November 01, 2018, 02:04:58 PM
^If you're talking fruitcake hell yeah. Otherwise not sure what "Christmas cake" might be.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 02, 2018, 07:47:40 AM
^If you're talking fruitcake hell yeah. Otherwise not sure what "Christmas cake" might be.

Does everyone not call it Christmas cake?  The bricks of stuff that nobody eats that your grandma gives you every Christmas?

(https://www.acanadianfoodie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/7-Traditional-Canadian-Christmas-Fruitcake-Sliced.jpg)

Is this a Canadian thing?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 02, 2018, 07:55:41 AM
^If you're talking fruitcake hell yeah. Otherwise not sure what "Christmas cake" might be.

Does everyone not call it Christmas cake?  The bricks of stuff that nobody eats that your grandma gives you every Christmas?

(https://www.acanadianfoodie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/7-Traditional-Canadian-Christmas-Fruitcake-Sliced.jpg)

Is this a Canadian thing?

Yeah. Americans call it fruitcake.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 02, 2018, 08:05:09 AM
^If you're talking fruitcake hell yeah. Otherwise not sure what "Christmas cake" might be.

Does everyone not call it Christmas cake?  The bricks of stuff that nobody eats that your grandma gives you every Christmas?

Is this a Canadian thing?

Yeah. Americans call it fruitcake.

Christmas cake may be a little different than the US fruit cake, recipes for the fruit cake vary but it typically looks more like:

(http://www.mdpennysaver.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/holiday-fruitcake.jpg)

Also, it's delicious so they must not be the same thing.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 02, 2018, 08:11:59 AM
My mom actually loves Christmas cake so much so my sister and I always get her some. But no one else will eat it, we hate it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 02, 2018, 08:44:56 AM
I hate when people post GIANT pictures in a thread that I can't see without scrolling right.

Also, is there any way to resize? plz help
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on November 02, 2018, 09:03:59 AM
I hate when people post GIANT pictures in a thread that I can't see without scrolling right.

Also, is there any way to resize? plz help

Maybe just link to the photo for anyone who is super curious, or find a new photo? Or Google "resize my photo"
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on November 03, 2018, 04:02:13 PM
Spent over 2 hours on new cover letter.  Formatted it to perfection thanks to some of the kindly folks here.  Apply for job at Indeed and click on "submit cover letter" button.  No option to submit a file, noooooo.......copy and paste!!!  Ack!  In addition, I had to undo ALL the formatting.  The bullet points, the header, and all the random returns Indeed places in the middle of paragraphs for unknown reasons.  Well here's to hoping I get the job haha! 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 05, 2018, 01:11:42 AM
On Thursday I spent an hour on filling out my online application to get travel expenses covered at work. Today I was supposed to just add one more receipt. And my saved application was gone from the system. Had to start from scratch again, specifying each small amount with date and different valuta. Another press on the button to save in between again erased my application, so I needed to start over again after halfway.
I hate buggy software and I hate filling out very detailed travel bills.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 05, 2018, 07:11:34 AM
On Thursday I spent an hour on filling out my online application to get travel expenses covered at work. Today I was supposed to just add one more receipt. And my saved application was gone from the system. Had to start from scratch again, specifying each small amount with date and different valuta. Another press on the button to save in between again erased my application, so I needed to start over again after halfway.
I hate buggy software and I hate filling out very detailed travel bills.

I hate it when the cost of the time it takes to fill out an online travel expense report ends up exceeding the cost being claimed on the travel.  :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: megaschnauzer on November 05, 2018, 09:04:22 AM
I HATE SCOTLAND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOJXT6UFhQI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOJXT6UFhQI)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: OurTown on November 05, 2018, 12:24:32 PM
Not sure if celery should be on the hate list. Celery has some things beneficial to health: https://www.care2.com/greenliving/11-super-health-benefits-in-just-1-celery-stalk.html

Chefs use these combos in a lot of tasty foods:

Mirepoix: Onions, celery, carrots.

Holy Trinity: Onions, celery, green bell peppers.


Other tasty uses of celery:

Celery with cream cheese.

Celery in a bloody Mary.

Chopped up in tuna salad!

And, stuffed with braunschweiger! 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 05, 2018, 12:43:32 PM
I hate it when someone steals things from your yard. Earlier this year we had our awning installed, shortly afterwards we noticed that the cement alligator statues we had in our bark mulch were missing. We had those things for years and just loved them. There are only two companies that come into our back yard and one is the awning company two times a year to put up and take down and the oil delivery people. I am leaning towards the awning guys because they hire seasonal temp guys. My guess is that they came back at nighttime and took them. The statues laid close to the ground and no one could possibly see them unless you come into the back yard. Can't prove anything but it makes me MAD! GRRRRRR!!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on November 06, 2018, 10:58:38 AM
this will be controversial, but it's true:
i fucking LOVE fruitcake.  and i HATE bread pudding if it doesn't have raisins in it!  it must have raisins or it's shit.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on November 06, 2018, 11:01:59 AM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?

You people are monsters.  Celery with the little trench stuffed with peanut butter is one of the highlights of gourmet flavour.

EWWW NO.  Celery is fowl.  I'd be hesitant to even put it in my compost for fear it would contaminate my garden. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on November 06, 2018, 11:11:11 AM
Cooked celery in chicken noodle soup is quite delicious. Raw celery is even worse than raw carrots, which are awful. Raisins are delightful, and I enjoy them immensely, mostly in trail mix or cooked in my oatmeal. Fruitcake is not food, so I feel no compulsion to comment upon its flavor.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 06, 2018, 11:25:13 AM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?

You people are monsters.  Celery with the little trench stuffed with peanut butter is one of the highlights of gourmet flavour.

EWWW NO.  Celery is fowl.  I'd be hesitant to even put it in my compost for fear it would contaminate my garden.

Celery is vegetable, not fowl.

:P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Shinplaster on November 06, 2018, 12:48:42 PM
Celery is OK if it has cheez whiz on it. Why yes, yes I am a child of the 50s and 60s.  : )

Brussels sprouts are the worst thing ever.  I've refused to eat them since I left home over 40 years ago.  Don't tell me they're wonderful roasted, or buttered, or whatever.  Nope.  Awful.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 06, 2018, 12:56:43 PM
this will be controversial, but it's true:
i fucking LOVE fruitcake.  and i HATE bread pudding if it doesn't have raisins in it!  it must have raisins or it's shit.

No, you are exactly wrong.

Fruitcake is disgusting. Bread pudding is good ONLY if it does NOT have raisins in it.

Fight me.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 06, 2018, 02:28:22 PM
this will be controversial, but it's true:
i fucking LOVE fruitcake.  and i HATE bread pudding if it doesn't have raisins in it!  it must have raisins or it's shit.
Fruitcake is disgusting.

Maybe you aren't using enough rum? You'd be surprised how much rum a fruitcake can hold. They're like little rum sponges.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: JanetJackson on November 06, 2018, 02:31:39 PM
While we're still on the topic of foods I'll say:
All this discussion of celery is actually giving me the chills.  I hate it so much.  I do use it for vegetable stock, but ONLY because it's so dang cheap.
Brussel Sprouts are so good.. they're in my top ten.  Sorry.

Here's a controversial one for this time of the year:  I hate pumpkin and I hate squash.  They are mush.  They are half sweet, but not sweet enough to be delicious sweet.  The smell of pumpkin sometimes makes me gag. 
Actually, I hate 'Thanksgiving' food.  All of it. 
My birthday sometimes falls on Thanksgiving and those were the worst ones. 
I hate: mashed potatoes, gravy, that red thing (cranberry sauce?), turkey, squash, pumpkin pie, green bean casserole, ALL OF IT.  THROW IT IN THE RIVER. 

Yeah, I said it.

:::BLECH:::
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 06, 2018, 02:42:00 PM
While we're still on the topic of foods I'll say:
All this discussion of celery is actually giving me the chills.  I hate it so much.  I do use it for vegetable stock, but ONLY because it's so dang cheap.
Brussel Sprouts are so good.. they're in my top ten.  Sorry.

Here's a controversial one for this time of the year:  I hate pumpkin and I hate squash.  They are mush.  They are half sweet, but not sweet enough to be delicious sweet.  The smell of pumpkin sometimes makes me gag. 
Actually, I hate 'Thanksgiving' food.  All of it. 
My birthday sometimes falls on Thanksgiving and those were the worst ones. 
I hate: mashed potatoes, gravy, that red thing (cranberry sauce?), turkey, squash, pumpkin pie, green bean casserole, ALL OF IT.  THROW IT IN THE RIVER. 

Yeah, I said it.

:::BLECH:::


(http://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2014/12/12-17halone_standard_600x400.png?alias=standard_600x400)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on November 06, 2018, 02:53:10 PM
Ummm WHAT?? *SIPS PSL*
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 06, 2018, 03:28:00 PM
this will be controversial, but it's true:
i fucking LOVE fruitcake.  and i HATE bread pudding if it doesn't have raisins in it!  it must have raisins or it's shit.
Fruitcake is disgusting.

Maybe you aren't using enough rum? You'd be surprised how much rum a fruitcake can hold. They're like little rum sponges.
.

You know what else holds a lot of rum?

A glass. Filled with rum.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 06, 2018, 05:00:17 PM
this will be controversial, but it's true:
i fucking LOVE fruitcake.  and i HATE bread pudding if it doesn't have raisins in it!  it must have raisins or it's shit.
Fruitcake is disgusting.

Maybe you aren't using enough rum? You'd be surprised how much rum a fruitcake can hold. They're like little rum sponges.
.

You know what else holds a lot of rum?

A glass. Filled with rum.

Interesting, I'm gonna go try that. Can I use a little celery as a garnish?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on November 06, 2018, 05:42:17 PM
I totally hated pumpkin, especially in pie (waste of a pie crust if you ask me) but my SO recently decided to bake a pumpkin in the oven. She then scraped the innerds (left the "skin") and pureed it. Effing amazing stuff! Nothing required in terms of flavoring, no spices, no sugar, no salt. Had a buttery squashy flavor and more texture than a true puree. Made pumpkin bread with it and not sickly sugared frosting, but pecans on top. My new favorite thing. I encourage pumpkin haters to play around with em after Halloween.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 07, 2018, 04:30:09 AM
My husband use to despise anchovies. I always loved them on pizza. There was a Rachael Ray recipe that instructed you to add olive oil and anchovies in the pot and sautť them with garlic. You then add hot Italian sliced sausage and sautť them adding more oil. Then you add cooked rigatoni to all of that then baby spinach. More oil if needed. He decided that anchovies are okay! Lately I have been making a Caesar salad with anchovy strips over the top and shredded parmesan cheese. He thinks that is great. So I have totally turned his anchovy hatred around! Now he wants anchovies on pizza too!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 07, 2018, 04:38:04 AM
I sometimes hate having too much choice. I desperately feel the need to always buy the best value for money product and too much choice takes a lot of time to compare the different products.

Currently I am spending way too much time on choosing a new phone. But earlier I have experienced the same feeling when seeing 20 different tomatoes in a grocery shop.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: megaschnauzer on November 07, 2018, 06:29:19 AM
i hate halloween.
i love thanksgiving because of the food.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: OurTown on November 07, 2018, 06:41:16 AM
Anchovies are my secret ingredient in sauteed spinach.  Along with pine nuts and sesame seeds.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on November 07, 2018, 06:52:19 AM
While we're still on the topic of foods I'll say:
All this discussion of celery is actually giving me the chills.  I hate it so much.  I do use it for vegetable stock, but ONLY because it's so dang cheap.
Brussel Sprouts are so good.. they're in my top ten.  Sorry.

Here's a controversial one for this time of the year:  I hate pumpkin and I hate squash.  They are mush.  They are half sweet, but not sweet enough to be delicious sweet.  The smell of pumpkin sometimes makes me gag. 
Actually, I hate 'Thanksgiving' food.  All of it. 
My birthday sometimes falls on Thanksgiving and those were the worst ones. 
I hate: mashed potatoes, gravy, that red thing (cranberry sauce?), turkey, squash, pumpkin pie, green bean casserole, ALL OF IT.  THROW IT IN THE RIVER. 

Yeah, I said it.

:::BLECH:::


You didn't mention the ONLY Thanksgiving food that I DON'T like: Stuffing (or dressing, depending on your region). Disgusting. But everything else...mmmmm.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 07, 2018, 07:03:37 AM
Anchovies are my secret ingredient in sauteed spinach.  Along with pine nuts and sesame seeds.

I am actually seeking MORE recipes using anchovies! I think they are addicting!

Spinach/anchovies sounds good! I have a whole bag of baby spinach in the fridge!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on November 07, 2018, 03:01:36 PM
Celery

+1

+2

why does celery exist? And why do people pay money for it?

You people are monsters.  Celery with the little trench stuffed with peanut butter is one of the highlights of gourmet flavour.

EWWW NO.  Celery is fowl.  I'd be hesitant to even put it in my compost for fear it would contaminate my garden.

Celery is vegetable, not fowl.

:P

Celery is not a vegetable any more than poison ivy greens. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on November 07, 2018, 03:58:32 PM
Coconuts. The flavor is not good, the texture is terrible. I can eat most anything but its the one thing I put my foot down about.

Linda in Norway: avoid the review articles about phones. I found that they nitpicked details no normal person would worry about. Same as the car magazine articles about new cars. The article is a blend of the manufacturer's press release (the positives) and then perhaps one or two nit picky negative opinions that the writer relies on to prove that they are being objective.

If you want an Android device look at the Asus Zenfone series. I bought an older version 3. Its been great. Nice camera and display, good free apps from the manufacturer, long battery life, etc.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 07, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Coconuts. The flavor is not good, the texture is terrible. I can eat most anything but its the one thing I put my foot down about.

Linda in Norway: avoid the review articles about phones. I found that they nitpicked details no normal person would worry about. Same as the car magazine articles about new cars. The article is a blend of the manufacturer's press release (the positives) and then perhaps one or two nit picky negative opinions that the writer relies on to prove that they are being objective.

If you want an Android device look at the Asus Zenfone series. I bought an older version 3. Its been great. Nice camera and display, good free apps from the manufacturer, long battery life, etc.

These are so frustrating. "Wellll, I really don't like the way you can see finger smudges on the metal backing so there's definitely some cons... but here's 17 AMAZING things about this phone!"
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: JanetJackson on November 08, 2018, 06:53:53 AM
Coconuts. The flavor is not good, the texture is terrible. I can eat most anything but its the one thing I put my foot down about.

Linda in Norway: avoid the review articles about phones. I found that they nitpicked details no normal person would worry about. Same as the car magazine articles about new cars. The article is a blend of the manufacturer's press release (the positives) and then perhaps one or two nit picky negative opinions that the writer relies on to prove that they are being objective.

If you want an Android device look at the Asus Zenfone series. I bought an older version 3. Its been great. Nice camera and display, good free apps from the manufacturer, long battery life, etc.

These are so frustrating. "Wellll, I really don't like the way you can see finger smudges on the metal backing so there's definitely some cons... but here's 17 AMAZING things about this phone!"

Fun Fact: When you find one of those reviews that has one very miniscule negative point and then multiple positive points, it is likely a paid review.  They write them that way so as not to catch Amazon/Ebay/Whatevers attention but to still provide a ranking boost for the company who is paying them.

Maybe you were already saying this and I lost it in the thread, but I just thought I'd mention that.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 08, 2018, 07:18:28 AM
Coconuts. The flavor is not good, the texture is terrible. I can eat most anything but its the one thing I put my foot down about.

Linda in Norway: avoid the review articles about phones. I found that they nitpicked details no normal person would worry about. Same as the car magazine articles about new cars. The article is a blend of the manufacturer's press release (the positives) and then perhaps one or two nit picky negative opinions that the writer relies on to prove that they are being objective.

If you want an Android device look at the Asus Zenfone series. I bought an older version 3. Its been great. Nice camera and display, good free apps from the manufacturer, long battery life, etc.

These are so frustrating. "Wellll, I really don't like the way you can see finger smudges on the metal backing so there's definitely some cons... but here's 17 AMAZING things about this phone!"

Fun Fact: When you find one of those reviews that has one very miniscule negative point and then multiple positive points, it is likely a paid review.  They write them that way so as not to catch Amazon/Ebay/Whatevers attention but to still provide a ranking boost for the company who is paying them.

Maybe you were already saying this and I lost it in the thread, but I just thought I'd mention that.

I think we were talking about reviews in article or video format, but yes, this tactic can be found in Amazon reviews as well. No one is safe.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: OurTown on November 08, 2018, 10:05:10 AM
I hate kale.  Who decided that kale was the next big thing?  I like most of the other greens, just not kale.  Chard is probably my fave.  Kale sucks.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 08, 2018, 10:45:24 AM
I hate it when you call a company and they keep calling you by your first name. After you tell them your complaint or whatever they repeat what you said back and first say So this is what you said Olive...Now Olive, can you give me your address...Olive is this the correct address, let me repeat it back to you...Olive, our product is meant to be used...Olive, where did you buy the product...Olive, can you give me the bar code on the box...ACKKKKKKK

OMG! Just drive me to the nuthouse!

How stupid can you get! Can't they just ask the questions without saying your first name a thousand times?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 08, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
I hate it when you call a company and they keep calling you by your first name. After you tell them your complaint or whatever they repeat what you said back and first say So this is what you said Olive...Now Olive, can you give me your address...Olive is this the correct address, let me repeat it back to you...Olive, our product is meant to be used...Olive, where did you buy the product...Olive, can you give me the bar code on the box...ACKKKKKKK

OMG! Just drive me to the nuthouse!

How stupid can you get! Can't they just ask the questions without saying your first name a thousand times?
I bet they are trained to do that. Probably some bullshit about creating rapport with the client or something. Super annoying though, especially for me because they never pronounce my name right.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 08, 2018, 11:30:44 AM
Yes, I am sure they are trained like monkeys to do that routine. If anyone watched Young Sheldon (TV show) he was trying to learn how to make friends and found a book that specifically told the reader to say the person's name a lot. Hahaha!

Stuff like that is just so unnecessary and annoying! The cashier at the grocery store drove me nuts with her crazy conversation last week. She kept asking me if she was doing okay and was I pleased with her and what she was doing. OMG, She was slow, slow, slow and beyond gabby with stupid gibberish. I just about screamed and ran out the door. I bought some shower nylon scrubbies and she was picking them up by the string like EWWWW and telling me to wash them because they had germs from people touching them and being dropped on the floor. She kept asking me a million questions on how she was packing the groceries. NOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GreenSheep on November 08, 2018, 11:49:21 AM
I rarely go to Whole Foods, but occasionally I need something I can't find elsewhere. I assume it's some sort of corporate rule, because in two different states now, the cashiers have asked me if I "have any fun plans for today/tonight/this weekend." Typically it's just a regular day for me, so no, I don't. I almost feel like I should make something up! "The Queen is coming to dinner" or "Yes, I'm so excited to go home and organize my sock drawer!" I understand they're trying to be friendly, but it feels like prying. "Hello" would be sufficient.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 08, 2018, 12:05:19 PM
I rarely go to Whole Foods, but occasionally I need something I can't find elsewhere. I assume it's some sort of corporate rule, because in two different states now, the cashiers have asked me if I "have any fun plans for today/tonight/this weekend." Typically it's just a regular day for me, so no, I don't. I almost feel like I should make something up! "The Queen is coming to dinner" or "Yes, I'm so excited to go home and organize my sock drawer!" I understand they're trying to be friendly, but it feels like prying. "Hello" would be sufficient.

You could try the response I would use:

"Nope."


99.9% effective . . . 

:P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 08, 2018, 12:14:33 PM
I hate standing in the baking aisle at the grocery store minding my own business and looking at vanilla extract only to be interrupted by someone walking past saying "Jesus loves you."  Uh, fine bro, you do you, but why was that necessary?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Samuel on November 08, 2018, 12:51:14 PM
I'm pretty sure a mistranslation is responsible for water chestnuts being considered a food item.

And for the record: Celery is good. Celery with peanut butter is great. Celery with peanut butter and raisins is terrible. It takes all kinds.



I hate vandals. I also hate thieves but at least I understand the motivation. People who just destroy other peoples' perfectly good stuff for fun deserve all kinds of misery.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 08, 2018, 01:33:26 PM
I hate standing in the baking aisle at the grocery store minding my own business and looking at vanilla extract only to be interrupted by someone walking past saying "Jesus loves you."  Uh, fine bro, you do you, but why was that necessary?

Respond with 'Salaam Alaikum'.
1 - It's a nice thing to say
2 - It's likely to piss off the sort of person who would say 'Jesus loves you' at people for aggressively dickish reasons
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dollar Slice on November 08, 2018, 01:36:29 PM
I rarely go to Whole Foods, but occasionally I need something I can't find elsewhere. I assume it's some sort of corporate rule, because in two different states now, the cashiers have asked me if I "have any fun plans for today/tonight/this weekend."

That's so weird. I've shopped at Whole Foods probably 500+ times and no one ever asked me that! Maybe you just look like you have a lot of fun (or maybe I look like I don't).
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: mountain mustache on November 08, 2018, 09:02:58 PM
I rarely go to Whole Foods, but occasionally I need something I can't find elsewhere. I assume it's some sort of corporate rule, because in two different states now, the cashiers have asked me if I "have any fun plans for today/tonight/this weekend." Typically it's just a regular day for me, so no, I don't. I almost feel like I should make something up! "The Queen is coming to dinner" or "Yes, I'm so excited to go home and organize my sock drawer!" I understand they're trying to be friendly, but it feels like prying. "Hello" would be sufficient.

I have never experienced this at Whole Foods, but a chain of coffee places "Dutch Bros" does this and it is so annoying to me! It's a drive through coffee place, and while you're waiting for your coffee, some ultra-chipper college kid is like "what exciting things do you have going on today! where'd you come from, where are you going"?" it always catches me way off guard, I just hate random small talk like that. Thankfully I visit this place about 2 times a year, but I am always grumpily reminded of how annoying I find it when I go.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: JanetJackson on November 08, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
I'm pretty sure a mistranslation is responsible for water chestnuts being considered a food item.

And for the record: Celery is good. Celery with peanut butter is great. Celery with peanut butter and raisins is terrible. It takes all kinds.

I feel like the universe is playing some kind of funny trick right now...  Iím one of those people from above who hate celery aggressively ... aaaand, also water chestnuts are my favorite food.
What
Is
Happening


I hate vandals. I also hate thieves but at least I understand the motivation. People who just destroy other peoples' perfectly good stuff for fun deserve all kinds of misery.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 09, 2018, 05:22:42 AM
I hate it when I am trying to read an on line paper and these damn pop ups keep interrupting me! STUPID advertisements. I will never to go to the restaurants that pop up. Or when they force you to watch an advertisement for 30 seconds before you can 'skip' out of it! I refuse to watch it! STUPID!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: FindingFI on November 09, 2018, 06:36:29 AM
Water chestnuts and coconut have the same texture as Styrofoam. I can't do it. Gross.

Something that drives me bonkers is spelling out abbreviates, but not with the words the abbreviations originally shortened. Examples: DJ spelled as deejay, when it really means disk jockey and MC spelled as emcee which is really  master of ceremonies.  Why are you making up words?! Could also just be the wedding planning PTSD talking...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 09, 2018, 07:20:08 AM
Water chestnuts and coconut have the same texture as Styrofoam. I can't do it. Gross.

Something that drives me bonkers is spelling out abbreviates, but not with the words the abbreviations originally shortened. Examples: DJ spelled as deejay, when it really means disk jockey and MC spelled as emcee which is really  master of ceremonies.  Why are you making up words?! Could also just be the wedding planning PTSD talking...

You mean pee tee ess dee?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 09, 2018, 12:37:03 PM
I hate it when I am trying to read an on line paper and these damn pop ups keep interrupting me! STUPID advertisements. I will never to go to the restaurants that pop up. Or when they force you to watch an advertisement for 30 seconds before you can 'skip' out of it! I refuse to watch it! STUPID!

Install a popup blocker in your browser.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kl285528 on November 09, 2018, 05:38:36 PM
JUULís. And the jerks that claim that they are for helping smokers. Just ask my junior high child and his friends
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kl285528 on November 09, 2018, 05:49:03 PM
Oh, and I hate rum raisin ice cream. What spawn of Satan came up with that flavor???
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Hula Hoop on November 10, 2018, 02:26:28 PM
I know that this is not a popular one but Reece's Peanut Butter cups.  Bleugh.  And rum raisin ice cream - that is just gross.  Also fig newtons.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: EricL on November 10, 2018, 05:07:27 PM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 10, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: JetBlast on November 10, 2018, 08:37:03 PM
Raw onions. All of them.

White and yellow onions I dislike but can tolerate somewhat. Green onions have a gritty texture and taste like dirt, so again unpleasant but tolerable. Red onions are a gift to humanity from Satan.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: mrmoonymartian on November 10, 2018, 08:56:51 PM
I hate putting things into perspective and relaxing. Fuck that shit is so annoying.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 11, 2018, 09:29:16 AM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

BLT?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 11, 2018, 09:33:36 AM
Sorry, but I love raw tomatoes and there is nothing more wonderful than to pick a fresh tomato off the vine, bring a salt shaker and eat it like an apple! Drooling! But I hate it when they get worm holes or black bottoms while growing.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: EricL on November 11, 2018, 10:25:22 AM
Sorry, but I love raw tomatoes and there is nothing more wonderful than to pick a fresh tomato off the vine, bring a salt shaker and eat it like an apple! Drooling! But I hate it when they get worm holes or black bottoms while growing.

Itís a slightly unusual thing to dislike. Most people are OK with or even like tomatoes. Even store bought ones. 

Iím not one of them though.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 11, 2018, 10:54:24 AM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

BLT?
I've never actually eaten one, but I'd assume acceptability in the same way as a burger.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 11, 2018, 11:09:36 AM
Some people were never exposed to certain things as kids and have never acquired a taste for textures and flavors.

I have a friend who thinks everything is gross but has never tasted what she think she hates. She 'hated' lobster till she was in her 40's until her SO insisted she try lobster. Now she loves it. I think some of us have bad memories of what our mother's cooked that she prepared badly. Not all mothers are gourmet cooks and struggle to make things taste good.

My friend takes after her mother who was also a fuss pot and would never try anything.

When I was a kid I wouldn't eat green veggies. Of course everything came out of a can and was weird and mushy tasting. I developed a skin disorder and parentes brought me to the doctor. The doctor questioned whether I ate green veggies and it was a NO. He said I had to eat them. I had scurvy which compromises your immune system and your bodyís ability to heal itself. Little by little I ate my veggies and got better.

I have an open mind on most food, spiders, snakes, bugs, ants, racoons, skunks, possums...NOPE!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 11, 2018, 11:11:35 AM
Some people were never exposed to certain things as kids and have never acquired a taste for textures and flavors.

I have a friend who thinks everything is gross but has never tasted what she think she hates. She 'hated' lobster till she was in her 40's until her SO insisted she try lobster. Now she loves it. I think some of us have bad memories of what our mother's cooked that she prepared badly. Not all mothers are gourmet cooks and struggle to make things taste good.

My friend takes after her mother who was also a fuss pot and would never try anything.



This.

In fact, "people who express disgust and abomination for foods they have never tried" ranks pretty high on my list of things I hate.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 11, 2018, 10:11:52 PM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

BLT?
I've never actually eaten one, but I'd assume acceptability in the same way as a burger.

Once you've been on the forums for awhile, you notice there's a few posters you seem agree with a lot and you think you have a lot in common-you guys know what I'm talking about. And then all of a sudden they say something like this and you don't know what to think anymore.

Never had a BLT? what?

Find a good tomato, thin slice it if you must.
Toast the bread in a pan with butter, both sides. Thick, chewy white bread is best.
Any lettuce but it should have some crunch.
Mayo, bacon, personally I like to add some green onion and maybe a little avocado.

Do yourself a favor. You won't regret it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 12, 2018, 03:53:11 AM
Hell yeah, BLT rules...must have a big slater of mayo and giant slice of juicy tomato and lots of bacon. Never had it with avacado but I bet it is good!
DROOL...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 12, 2018, 08:30:46 AM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

BLT?
I've never actually eaten one, but I'd assume acceptability in the same way as a burger.

Once you've been on the forums for awhile, you notice there's a few posters you seem agree with a lot and you think you have a lot in common-you guys know what I'm talking about. And then all of a sudden they say something like this and you don't know what to think anymore.

Never had a BLT? what?

Find a good tomato, thin slice it if you must.
Toast the bread in a pan with butter, both sides. Thick, chewy white bread is best.
Any lettuce but it should have some crunch.
Mayo, bacon, personally I like to add some green onion and maybe a little avocado.

Do yourself a favor. You won't regret it.
I'll have to give it a shot.  Sans mayo, that shit's vile.  Definitely adding green onions and avocado.

When you say thick, chewy bread, do you mean like the kind you'd get separately at the bakery in a grocery store?  Like the kind of thing they probably use at Subway or whatever?

(from a guy who's entire past sandwich repertoire was either burgers or peanut butter sandwiches.  Italian beef a couple times too, but never made it myself.)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Cookie78 on November 12, 2018, 09:01:38 AM
High horses.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 12, 2018, 09:30:29 AM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

BLT?
I've never actually eaten one, but I'd assume acceptability in the same way as a burger.

Once you've been on the forums for awhile, you notice there's a few posters you seem agree with a lot and you think you have a lot in common-you guys know what I'm talking about. And then all of a sudden they say something like this and you don't know what to think anymore.

Never had a BLT? what?

Find a good tomato, thin slice it if you must.
Toast the bread in a pan with butter, both sides. Thick, chewy white bread is best.
Any lettuce but it should have some crunch.
Mayo, bacon, personally I like to add some green onion and maybe a little avocado.

Do yourself a favor. You won't regret it.
I'll have to give it a shot.  Sans mayo, that shit's vile.  Definitely adding green onions and avocado.

When you say thick, chewy bread, do you mean like the kind you'd get separately at the bakery in a grocery store?  Like the kind of thing they probably use at Subway or whatever?

(from a guy who's entire past sandwich repertoire was either burgers or peanut butter sandwiches.  Italian beef a couple times too, but never made it myself.)

The avocado should fill the role of the mayo if you're one of those people :)

Any plain sliced bread will do but a thick, dense slice will hold up better. If you're not using mayo, it won't be as messy so I wouldn't worry about it.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Schaefer Light on November 12, 2018, 09:54:07 AM
Neighbors who play loud music late at night.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 13, 2018, 12:12:51 AM
Neighbors who play loud music late at night.

Yes! For some reason we had this twice in the last week. Luckily my ear plugs helped sufficiently. DH had to listen to music on his phone to be block it out.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 13, 2018, 12:17:51 AM
Logging a software issue with customer support of a product that we use at work. I get a quick answer from a person who is trying to reproduce my steps, but needs more details. I write detailed steps. Get a new email that asks for detailed steps to reproduce.... I really don't know how much I will tolerate to do it even more. I will save it a bit for later this day.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Sailor Sam on November 13, 2018, 01:01:34 AM
Lazy navigation officers who dont mark chart shifts on the track line. It makes running the DR out so fucking irritating.

Additionally, tomatoes are gross. Particularly the small ones that spurt goo into your mouth when you chomp down. Vile.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 13, 2018, 06:52:52 AM
Logging a software issue with customer support of a product that we use at work. I get a quick answer from a person who is trying to reproduce my steps, but needs more details. I write detailed steps. Get a new email that asks for detailed steps to reproduce.... I really don't know how much I will tolerate to do it even more. I will save it a bit for later this day.

I work in software QA at the moment.  When I log a problem now, I record detailed steps in text as bullet points.  For each step I take a screen shot of the step.  If a step has more than one part I take a screen shot of each substep.  If possible I'll take a video capture of the entire action.  Then I write out a detailed 'expected result/observed result' summary.  Yes, it's tedious and takes a long time . . . but I've found that it's still more efficient than ever assuming that the person at the other end is going to understand you.

:P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: SheWhoWalksAtLunch on November 13, 2018, 07:56:27 AM
People who buy a home in the country to "get away from it all" then insist on leaving their outside lights on all night.  We have a neighbor with a halogen street lamp on their property that comes on at dusk and turns off at dawn.  This is for a vacation home and they're NEVER there.  With the leaves on the trees its bad, but now that fall has arrived it's unbearable.  We can read at night in the rooms on that side of the house without turning on any indoor lights. 

Last winter something happened to the bulb (I swear it wasn't me or the DH) and we had a lovely few months of darkness at night, until they came out to check on the place in the spring.  The fixture was so old that replacement bulbs were no longer available.  Our hope was they would live without the light and enjoy the savings on their electric bill.  No such luck.  They installed a newer, brighter light and went back wherever they came from.

Now we have a new, year-round neighbor on the other side who doesn't feel safe unless every outside light they have is on all night.  I'm installing light block curtains in every room.

Seriously people.  One of the attractions to living in the country WAS the lack of light pollution.    If you're afraid of the dark, stay in the city.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 13, 2018, 08:02:18 AM
We have a full time neighbor who does the exact same thing. He moved from NY to CT to a fairly rural area and leaves his outside lights on all night long. It shines into my bedroom but I have blinds so it doesn't bother me but amazes me he has so many lights on. He went on a kick for a while and had no lights on but now they are back on again. He seems to forget to turn them off and they are on half the day too! Then I have another neighbor who never has lights on and it makes me wonder how on earth they live over there! Once in a while there are lights on and it is such an oddity and I have to gaze at it! LOL!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 13, 2018, 08:45:14 AM
Logging a software issue with customer support of a product that we use at work. I get a quick answer from a person who is trying to reproduce my steps, but needs more details. I write detailed steps. Get a new email that asks for detailed steps to reproduce.... I really don't know how much I will tolerate to do it even more. I will save it a bit for later this day.

I work in software QA at the moment.  When I log a problem now, I record detailed steps in text as bullet points.  For each step I take a screen shot of the step.  If a step has more than one part I take a screen shot of each substep.  If possible I'll take a video capture of the entire action.  Then I write out a detailed 'expected result/observed result' summary.  Yes, it's tedious and takes a long time . . . but I've found that it's still more efficient than ever assuming that the person at the other end is going to understand you.

:P
This is exactly the bullshit I have to do with a certain software vendor for lab equipment I deal with all the time at work.  Write an outrageously verbose unambiguous explanation of the error like you describe, then compile it into an email and get an answer six weeks later, with a 30% chance the issue will be addressed a year later in their new version of the software that introduces different errors.

If it's not reproducible, I don't even bother.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 13, 2018, 09:40:58 AM
Logging a software issue with customer support of a product that we use at work. I get a quick answer from a person who is trying to reproduce my steps, but needs more details. I write detailed steps. Get a new email that asks for detailed steps to reproduce.... I really don't know how much I will tolerate to do it even more. I will save it a bit for later this day.

I work in software QA at the moment.  When I log a problem now, I record detailed steps in text as bullet points.  For each step I take a screen shot of the step.  If a step has more than one part I take a screen shot of each substep.  If possible I'll take a video capture of the entire action.  Then I write out a detailed 'expected result/observed result' summary.  Yes, it's tedious and takes a long time . . . but I've found that it's still more efficient than ever assuming that the person at the other end is going to understand you.

:P
This is exactly the bullshit I have to do with a certain software vendor for lab equipment I deal with all the time at work.  Write an outrageously verbose unambiguous explanation of the error like you describe, then compile it into an email and get an answer six weeks later, with a 30% chance the issue will be addressed a year later in their new version of the software that introduces different errors.

If it's not reproducible, I don't even bother.

"Works on my computer"



GRRRAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!!!    :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 13, 2018, 10:30:49 AM
Logging a software issue with customer support of a product that we use at work. I get a quick answer from a person who is trying to reproduce my steps, but needs more details. I write detailed steps. Get a new email that asks for detailed steps to reproduce.... I really don't know how much I will tolerate to do it even more. I will save it a bit for later this day.

I work in software QA at the moment.  When I log a problem now, I record detailed steps in text as bullet points.  For each step I take a screen shot of the step.  If a step has more than one part I take a screen shot of each substep.  If possible I'll take a video capture of the entire action.  Then I write out a detailed 'expected result/observed result' summary.  Yes, it's tedious and takes a long time . . . but I've found that it's still more efficient than ever assuming that the person at the other end is going to understand you.

:P
This is exactly the bullshit I have to do with a certain software vendor for lab equipment I deal with all the time at work.  Write an outrageously verbose unambiguous explanation of the error like you describe, then compile it into an email and get an answer six weeks later, with a 30% chance the issue will be addressed a year later in their new version of the software that introduces different errors.

If it's not reproducible, I don't even bother.

"Works on my computer"



GRRRAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH!!!!    :P
My favorite ones are where they have hilariously unrealistic expectations about how the software will be used.

Me: Your software doesn't work on 64-bit Windows, and it's 2018.
Vendor: Use 32-bit.
Me: Your software doesn't work on 32-bit Windows 10, and it's 2018.
Vendor: Use Windows 7.
Me: Your software doesn't work on 32-bit Windows 7, and it's 2018.
Vendor: Try XP.
Me: ...
(That worked.  I dug out a piece of crap old XP laptop and threw the brand new laptop we bought for this purpose in a drawer. Gah. Turns out their "new" software literally relies on 16-bit DLLs with a "last modified" date of 1994.)

Me: Your software gives goofy results if you load it up on a machine other than the one the data was collected on.
Vendor: Don't do that.  Why do you have more than one computer in your 50-user business, what's wrong with you?
Me: ...

Me: Your "21 CFR Part 11 compliant" software crashes if we try to save to a network location with permissions in compliance with 21 CFR Part 11.
Vendor: Don't use a network drive.
Me: Your "21 CFR Part 11 compliant" software crashes if we try to save to a local drive with permissions in compliance with 21 CFR Part 11.
Vendor: Loosen up the permissions.  Give all users delete rights and local admin access.
Me: ...

Me: If a user clicks print and selects a different record afterwards, it prints that one instead.
Vendor: Don't do that.
(This one was at least badly fixed in the next version.)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: dougules on November 13, 2018, 10:59:52 AM
Some people were never exposed to certain things as kids and have never acquired a taste for textures and flavors.

I have a friend who thinks everything is gross but has never tasted what she think she hates. She 'hated' lobster till she was in her 40's until her SO insisted she try lobster. Now she loves it. I think some of us have bad memories of what our mother's cooked that she prepared badly. Not all mothers are gourmet cooks and struggle to make things taste good.

My friend takes after her mother who was also a fuss pot and would never try anything.



This.

In fact, "people who express disgust and abomination for foods they have never tried" ranks pretty high on my list of things I hate.

+1  I can accept somebody not liking a flavor or texture, but I can't stand people that either won't try a food or try it with no intent to give it a fair chance. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 13, 2018, 11:03:50 AM
Yes, agree. Food isn't always something that you like the first time. Just like babies, not all foods are liked the first try but after several times flavors and textures become more tolerant. Refusing to try and declaring it is gross and they hate it does not makes sense.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 13, 2018, 11:11:07 AM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 13, 2018, 11:19:28 AM
Okra is something I have only eaten a few times in gumbo and that texture is pretty gross and slimy. That is one food I would avoid. I don't recall it having any flavor either.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: AnswerIs42 on November 13, 2018, 11:40:33 AM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
I would normally agree with this... but try making chicken or turkey soup in a blender. It doesn't taste too bad, but it sticks to your teeth and the roof of your mouth, ugh.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 13, 2018, 12:05:19 PM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Then take a nice long sip of olive oil and let me know what you think. :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 13, 2018, 12:09:56 PM
Yes, agree. Food isn't always something that you like the first time. Just like babies, not all foods are liked the first try but after several times flavors and textures become more tolerant. Refusing to try and declaring it is gross and they hate it does not makes sense.

Exactly.

I've always been a reasonably adventurous eater (and would today say I am very adventurous) and there are foods that I love now that I used to hate.

Case in point: blue cheese. The story of how I learned to love it is an object lesson to me to always try things more than once. I lived and worked in France for a couple of years in my mid-twenties, and though I loved most kinds of cheese, I could not abide blue cheese. I had a teaching job at a university, and my boss scheduled weekly lunches with me and another colleague to talk about the classes we were teaching. Well, these meetings were at noon on Fridays, and my schedule on those days were four classes back to back at 8, 9, 10, and 11. So, by noon, I was starving and also didn't have a lot of time before my next class, so my boss decided to help me out by buying our lunches and getting a table for us so as to not waste time.

Well, one Friday, he bought us roquefort sandwiches. Roquefort cheese on a baguette. That's it.

I was horrified, but: a) I certainly did not want to act like a picky baby in front of my boss; and b) I was famished. So, I just took the sandwich, forced myself to eat it, and tried to put it behind me.

Except that next week, he did the same thing. Stupid me, because I never told him I didn't like roquefort. Once again, I forced myself to choke it down, and mentally berated myself for not being up-front last week.

Funny thing happened, though. The third time my boss bought us roquefort sandwiches, I kinda liked it. And today, blue cheeses of all kinds are among my very favorite cheeses -- roquefort in particular is easily in my top five. So, the moral of the story for me is, food ought to be appreciated for its uniqueness, and food that is "strange" might just take some time to get used to. And often, taking that time is very much worth it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 13, 2018, 12:42:07 PM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Then take a nice long sip of olive oil and let me know what you think. :P

I've taken shots of olive oil in the morning as an appetite suppressant when cutting weight for wrestling.  Nothing wrong with the texture, but the taste is very strong and seems to cling to your mouth for ages.  I found that you have to chase it with cream or milk to cleanse your palette.

:P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 13, 2018, 01:10:01 PM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Then take a nice long sip of olive oil and let me know what you think. :P

I've taken shots of olive oil in the morning as an appetite suppressant when cutting weight for wrestling.  Nothing wrong with the texture, but the taste is very strong and seems to cling to your mouth for ages.  I found that you have to chase it with cream or milk to cleanse your palette.

:P
Clings to your mouth?  Why?  Due to some kind of texture that you don't enjoy, perhaps?

:P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Schaefer Light on November 13, 2018, 01:48:47 PM
Okra is something I have only eaten a few times in gumbo and that texture is pretty gross and slimy. That is one food I would avoid. I don't recall it having any flavor either.
The only way to eat okra is fried.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 13, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
Just about anything fried is delicious!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 13, 2018, 03:21:24 PM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Then take a nice long sip of olive oil and let me know what you think. :P

I've taken shots of olive oil in the morning as an appetite suppressant when cutting weight for wrestling.  Nothing wrong with the texture, but the taste is very strong and seems to cling to your mouth for ages.  I found that you have to chase it with cream or milk to cleanse your palette.

:P
Clings to your mouth?  Why?  Due to some kind of texture that you don't enjoy, perhaps?

:P

No, it's just that it's oil.  The saliva in your mouth doesn't wash it away.  You need something with some fat content to do it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 13, 2018, 03:27:30 PM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Then take a nice long sip of olive oil and let me know what you think. :P

I've taken shots of olive oil in the morning as an appetite suppressant when cutting weight for wrestling.  Nothing wrong with the texture, but the taste is very strong and seems to cling to your mouth for ages.  I found that you have to chase it with cream or milk to cleanse your palette.

:P
Clings to your mouth?  Why?  Due to some kind of texture that you don't enjoy, perhaps?

:P

No, it's just that it's oil.  The saliva in your mouth doesn't wash it away.  You need something with some fat content to do it.
Now I'm just being an ass, but clearly it's the oily texture of the oil that's the problem. :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 13, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
I do not accept "texture" as a reason not to like something.  Flavour, sure . . . but everything turns to mush after you chew it anyway.  There are zero foods that I avoid because of texture.
Then take a nice long sip of olive oil and let me know what you think. :P

I've taken shots of olive oil in the morning as an appetite suppressant when cutting weight for wrestling.  Nothing wrong with the texture, but the taste is very strong and seems to cling to your mouth for ages.  I found that you have to chase it with cream or milk to cleanse your palette.

:P
Clings to your mouth?  Why?  Due to some kind of texture that you don't enjoy, perhaps?

:P

No, it's just that it's oil.  The saliva in your mouth doesn't wash it away.  You need something with some fat content to do it.
Now I'm just being an ass, but clearly it's the oily texture of the oil that's the problem. :P

But if it tasted good, I wouldn't care about it hanging around in my mouth for longer.  Natural peanut butter gets stuck in my mouth and is hard to wash away too, but I like the flavour so it doesn't bug me.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: FindingFI on November 14, 2018, 05:47:55 AM
You know when you're sick with all kinds of chest congestion and cough up a bunk of junk. That is the texture of raw oysters. For me, texture is as much a characteristic of a food as flavor, and there are some that are revolting. But cooked oysters, clams and mussels are delightful!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on November 14, 2018, 06:52:40 AM
olive oil is fine for keto or weight loss, but try the MCT oil you can get these days.  it's completely flavorless and goes down like water.

(medium chain triglycerides)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 14, 2018, 07:58:55 AM
how can olive oil or mct oil help with weight loss? Oil has calories!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 14, 2018, 08:06:14 AM
how can olive oil or mct oil help with weight loss? Oil has calories!

I found that it made me uninterested in eating more food (thanks to it being gross tasting), and also kept me full for a long time.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 14, 2018, 08:55:35 AM
MCT oil is known for satiety/appetite suppression too.  GF has used it in coffee sometimes, usually when traveling.  Sure, it has calories, all food does, but the benefits outweigh the costs for some people in some use cases.  GF is 77lbs lighter than she was a year ago, and she's consumed plenty of oils along the way.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GreenSheep on November 14, 2018, 09:47:49 AM
Yes! Tastes can definitely change. I love all sorts of things that I used to hate. I often ask picky (adult) eaters if they adored the taste of coffee or beer the very first time they took a sip.

Apparently there are also studies that show that you tend to crave later what you eat now. Or at least not hate it so much. Seems to have a lot to do with your microbiome, which can adjust rapidly.

I listened to a podcast that discussed getting kids used to new foods that they don't initially like by having them eat a pea-sized bite of the food every day for a week or two, with a non-food reward at the end of that time. Just that amount is enough to get the gut bacteria going, "Hey, maybe this stuff is okay after all." Then that information gets passed along to the taste buds, which decide maybe it actually does taste pretty good. I think where a lot of parents screw up (including mine, and I'm sure I would have, too, if I had kids) is by forcing kids to eat, say, a big pile of cooked spinach.

More directly on topic... I hate beets. I've tried them a zillion different ways, and I just can't get past the fact that they taste the way dirt smells. Maybe I need to treat myself like a kid and eat a tiny pea-sized bite every day for two weeks. :-)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 14, 2018, 10:32:16 AM
Yes! Tastes can definitely change. I love all sorts of things that I used to hate. I often ask picky (adult) eaters if they adored the taste of coffee or beer the very first time they took a sip.

Apparently there are also studies that show that you tend to crave later what you eat now. Or at least not hate it so much. Seems to have a lot to do with your microbiome, which can adjust rapidly.

I listened to a podcast that discussed getting kids used to new foods that they don't initially like by having them eat a pea-sized bite of the food every day for a week or two, with a non-food reward at the end of that time. Just that amount is enough to get the gut bacteria going, "Hey, maybe this stuff is okay after all." Then that information gets passed along to the taste buds, which decide maybe it actually does taste pretty good. I think where a lot of parents screw up (including mine, and I'm sure I would have, too, if I had kids) is by forcing kids to eat, say, a big pile of cooked spinach.

More directly on topic... I hate beets. I've tried them a zillion different ways, and I just can't get past the fact that they taste the way dirt smells. Maybe I need to treat myself like a kid and eat a tiny pea-sized bite every day for two weeks. :-)

Ha! I used to despise them. And then one day about 8-10 years ago, there happened to be beets in something I ate and I thought, "hmmm, these aren't as revolting as I remember!"

Now? Borscht, beet salad.... MMMMMMM!!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 14, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
Yes, beets always taste like dirt any way that they're prepared.  I am only able to choke them down because it makes me giggle to see red pee four or five hours later.  (Also they're pretty good for you.)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 14, 2018, 12:14:22 PM
Yes! Tastes can definitely change. I love all sorts of things that I used to hate. I often ask picky (adult) eaters if they adored the taste of coffee or beer the very first time they took a sip.

Apparently there are also studies that show that you tend to crave later what you eat now. Or at least not hate it so much. Seems to have a lot to do with your microbiome, which can adjust rapidly.

I listened to a podcast that discussed getting kids used to new foods that they don't initially like by having them eat a pea-sized bite of the food every day for a week or two, with a non-food reward at the end of that time. Just that amount is enough to get the gut bacteria going, "Hey, maybe this stuff is okay after all." Then that information gets passed along to the taste buds, which decide maybe it actually does taste pretty good. I think where a lot of parents screw up (including mine, and I'm sure I would have, too, if I had kids) is by forcing kids to eat, say, a big pile of cooked spinach.

More directly on topic... I hate beets. I've tried them a zillion different ways, and I just can't get past the fact that they taste the way dirt smells. Maybe I need to treat myself like a kid and eat a tiny pea-sized bite every day for two weeks. :-)
I'm not sure what my parents could have done differently, but I was a mess in this department.

As a kid, I was incredibly stubborn about food.  I don't know exactly when it started, but as long ago as I can remember (at the very least going back to kindergarten/first grade), 95+% of what I ate was Cheerios, Wheat Chex, skim milk, apple juice, apple sauce, peanut butter sandwiches (no jelly), or pasta with ketchup.  The other <5% was occasional things like "snacky" food (candy, individual fruit, etc.), pancakes, french fries, hot dogs, or burgers from McDonald's (and burgers from nowhere else).  If a restaurant didn't have pancakes or a hot dog and fries as an option, I basically wouldn't eat there, so I did very very little eating out (that part was a plus, at least, though limiting socially and for family events, which were often just me sitting there with an empty plate or a peanut butter sandwich brought from home).

My parents tried.  Sometime around age 8 I at least remember specific times where they'd want me to try "just a bite" of some "new food" every day with my boring dinner.  I either refused, choked it down talking about how gross it was, or spit it out (I honestly don't remember the distribution there) for enough days in a row that they gave up. I'm sure there were other attempts along the way, but at some point they basically just let me do my own thing.  I prepared (obviously there wasn't much to it beyond putting sandwiches together and boiling water for pasta) all of my own food pretty much from age 10 on as a result.  I took a multivitamin every day.  Maybe that helped.

This continued for quite a while. 

My first sign of progress was at age 19 (yup).  I was spending a weekend with some friends in Wisconsin, and we went to Famous Dave's, and I ate a burger from Famous Dave's.  That sounds like a pretty pathetic kind of progress, but it was indeed a big step for me.  My first ever burger from somewhere other than McDonald's.  And I actually enjoyed it.  The only reason this happened was social pressure (not deliberate on their part - I had met most of these people online and was meeting them for the first time in-person and most of them as a result had no idea about my food issues).

The about a year and a half later (age 20) I had another breakthrough when I was going to meet my now-GF for steak and eggs at her favorite restaurant near her.  I asked my dad about it and he leaped at the opportunity to cook steak and eggs for me.  I had it well-done and with ketchup (I've since atoned for this), but I enjoyed it, never having eaten it ever before.

At 21, we bought our first house and lived with GF's sister and GF's sister's boyfriend.  Naturally, my life changed a lot.  The four of us would often cook together, and while at first it was me standing around while they cooked, I eventually started figuring stuff out.  I'd still make peanut butter sandwiches and pasta with ketchup quite a lot for myself, but I ate more and more with them, going from eggs to bacon and eggs to breakfast burritos to baked potatoes to meatloaf to actual fucking vegetables.  Later that year, I read some of books and did a lot of research into healthy eating for the first time, making me want to actually be the one to take initiative and try lots of new foods for health reasons.

And sometime at 22, I had my last peanut butter or pasta filled week, switching entirely to eating real food.  I became the primary cook in the household.  Since that fall, GF and I have been eating what I'll call "vegetable-heavy paleoish" and things have been great.  Now there are literally no foods I'm not at least open to trying (I have preferences of course), with the sole exception of anything cheese-based (sorry, still gross if it's present enough that I can taste or smell it - small doses of shredded mixed into something can be ok).

So tl;dr: factors that went into fixing my stubborn/picky eating habits:
I grew the fuck up.
Social pressure from friends unaware of my issues.
A woman.
Learning about healthy eating.
Cooking my own food.

It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 14, 2018, 12:34:29 PM
Wow. I gave you a hard time for never having eaten a BLT... I had no idea.

Does the idea of pasta with ketchup still sound appealing to you or have your tastes completely flipped?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Jouer on November 14, 2018, 01:32:29 PM
I love that your username is ketchup. Was that a nickname in school? It would have been if you went to my school!  ;-)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 14, 2018, 02:17:05 PM
Wow. I gave you a hard time for never having eaten a BLT... I had no idea.

Does the idea of pasta with ketchup still sound appealing to you or have your tastes completely flipped?
It still sounds appealing from the easy-as-fuck-and-a-box-of-pasta-is-$1 perspective, but I'll only do that these days if I'm in super lazy bachelor-chow mode when GF is out of town for like a week.  I've had it maybe ten times total in the past five years now.  Physically, it doesn't make me feel awesome.
I love that your username is ketchup. Was that a nickname in school? It would have been if you went to my school!  ;-)
I've used it or variants of it as my online handle since well before my high ketchup consumption ended. :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: BZB on November 14, 2018, 07:51:03 PM
the smell of patchouli oil is like ancient death - probably how King Tut's tomb smelled when it was first opened
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 15, 2018, 01:29:48 AM
Wow. I gave you a hard time for never having eaten a BLT... I had no idea.

Does the idea of pasta with ketchup still sound appealing to you or have your tastes completely flipped?
It still sounds appealing from the easy-as-fuck-and-a-box-of-pasta-is-$1 perspective, but I'll only do that these days if I'm in super lazy bachelor-chow mode when GF is out of town for like a week.  I've had it maybe ten times total in the past five years now.  Physically, it doesn't make me feel awesome.

As a child I grew up with a dish: macaroni with ham and cheese. We could add ketchup to that on our plate. This was my mother's easiest dish. I think we ate it once every 1 or 2 weeks. As an adult I have never eaten it, because of the lack of vegetables. But tonight I am home alone and I have a chunk of ham in the fridge. I might just for once do something silly and eat this. Maybe I'll fry some of my dried mushrooms to go with it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 15, 2018, 04:05:22 AM
I hate touching the refrigerator and freezer handles in the grocery store. Plus, the other day I was in the grocery store and so many people were coughing with colds or worse yet maybe the flu! If I have a long sleeve stretchy shirt on I will pull it over my fingers to open the doors to the refrigerators and freezers! GROSS!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on November 15, 2018, 07:27:11 AM
how can olive oil or mct oil help with weight loss? Oil has calories!

I found that it made me uninterested in eating more food (thanks to it being gross tasting), and also kept me full for a long time.

agree with that and i'll add that mct are highly available to your body as fuel.  your body doesn't have to do much or anything to process/digest them before they can be used, therefore you get a very quick boost that satisfies your energy requirements and kills the hunger pang.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 15, 2018, 08:55:42 AM
CATALOGS!!!!!

Good LORD, I cannot believe how many catalogs show up in my mailbox. I am not even a big consumer. I meticulously go online and submit requests to be removed from people's mailing lists -- several times a week, it seems -- but since businesses so routinely sell their lists to one another, there are days when I feel like I'll never, ever get to the end of it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GreenSheep on November 15, 2018, 09:05:51 AM
It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.

I'm no parenting expert (far from it), but it seems that the "This is what we're eating, and you will eat it too, if you're hungry" approach tends to work for kids. I mean, you don't see kids in third world countries starving to death because they don't like whatever awful food happens to be available.

Which leads me to... I hate the fact that our culture has become one of constant eating. I love food, but I really try to eat only when hungry and not use food as entertainment. The average American's day is pretty much one giant meal occasionally interrupted by an activity. We're surrounded by food, smells of food, discussions of food, and photos of food in ads. I've actually had to explain to people that they will be just fine if their next meal is delayed by a few hours. It won't do any physical harm! People panic when they start to feel real hunger because they're not used to feeling it and think something must be going very wrong!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 15, 2018, 09:11:00 AM
CATALOGS!!!!!

Good LORD, I cannot believe how many catalogs show up in my mailbox. I am not even a big consumer. I meticulously go online and submit requests to be removed from people's mailing lists -- several times a week, it seems -- but since businesses so routinely sell their lists to one another, there are days when I feel like I'll never, ever get to the end of it.

Not just catalogues.  Junk mail of all kind always makes me kinda angry.  I pick up my mail, go through all the stuff that's not addressed to me, and dump it straight in the recycle bin.  Then I go through the stuff that's addressed to me and dump all the ads straight in the recycle bin.  It's incredibly wasteful.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 15, 2018, 09:14:44 AM
The old saying:

You have two choices for dinner

1. Take it
2. Or leave it
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 15, 2018, 09:15:00 AM
CATALOGS!!!!!

Good LORD, I cannot believe how many catalogs show up in my mailbox. I am not even a big consumer. I meticulously go online and submit requests to be removed from people's mailing lists -- several times a week, it seems -- but since businesses so routinely sell their lists to one another, there are days when I feel like I'll never, ever get to the end of it.

Not just catalogues.  Junk mail of all kind always makes me kinda angry.  I pick up my mail, go through all the stuff that's not addressed to me, and dump it straight in the recycle bin.  Then I go through the stuff that's addressed to me and dump all the ads straight in the recycle bin.  It's incredibly wasteful.

No kidding. I periodically will open the stuff that has postage paid envelopes inside it, stuff the material in, seal it, and send it back, just because it gives me a childish sense of vindication.

My ex-husband once taped one of those envelopes to a brick and dropped it off at the post office. It was a funny idea, but I doubt it ever arrived at its destination.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Crease on November 15, 2018, 09:18:18 AM
CATALOGS!!!!!

Good LORD, I cannot believe how many catalogs show up in my mailbox. I am not even a big consumer. I meticulously go online and submit requests to be removed from people's mailing lists -- several times a week, it seems -- but since businesses so routinely sell their lists to one another, there are days when I feel like I'll never, ever get to the end of it.

Not just catalogues.  Junk mail of all kind always makes me kinda angry.  I pick up my mail, go through all the stuff that's not addressed to me, and dump it straight in the recycle bin.  Then I go through the stuff that's addressed to me and dump all the ads straight in the recycle bin.  It's incredibly wasteful.

Agree. I keep my email inboxes pristine by unsubscribing from anything not of interest. I should really do the same for the never-ending catalogs that come in through the mail.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 15, 2018, 09:18:37 AM
I wonder if you can do 'return to sender'. Just yesterday I received about 8 catalogs in the mail. OMG!

Another thing I hate is when you do open those stupid catalogs they are stuffed with post card type things that fall all over the floor. GRRRR!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 15, 2018, 09:25:49 AM
What bugs me isn't the junk mail itself, it's the waste.  Unfortunately, returning to sender just creates more waste . . . it doesn't address the problem.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Kris on November 15, 2018, 09:30:47 AM
What bugs me isn't the junk mail itself, it's the waste.  Unfortunately, returning to sender just creates more waste . . . it doesn't address the problem.

Completely agree. And on that note, I'm horrified and disgusted by the number of print catalogs I get from companies whose entire purported MO is environmental sustainability/justice, etc. Makes me absolutely rage.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 15, 2018, 09:34:45 AM
I was getting a letter regularly from a hearing aid company that is about 20 miles away from me. I have no hearing problem and it really irritated me that this stupid letter kept coming and coming. I called the number inside the letter inviting me to a FREE hearing test to complain. I told them I am SICK of getting these stupid letters and want them to STOP! The lady was nice and assured me my name would be removed. So far, no more letters.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 15, 2018, 10:12:02 AM
It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.

I'm no parenting expert (far from it), but it seems that the "This is what we're eating, and you will eat it too, if you're hungry" approach tends to work for kids. I mean, you don't see kids in third world countries starving to death because they don't like whatever awful food happens to be available.

Which leads me to... I hate the fact that our culture has become one of constant eating. I love food, but I really try to eat only when hungry and not use food as entertainment. The average American's day is pretty much one giant meal occasionally interrupted by an activity. We're surrounded by food, smells of food, discussions of food, and photos of food in ads. I've actually had to explain to people that they will be just fine if their next meal is delayed by a few hours. It won't do any physical harm! People panic when they start to feel real hunger because they're not used to feeling it and think something must be going very wrong!
I don't eat constantly, but I have definitely noticed that I get more distracted and irritable and bothered by smaller things when I haven't eaten in a few hours. My boyfriend has noticed as well, and we joke about him having to carry a granola bar in case I get upset over something minor. I'm usually a pretty happy and easy going person, but being hangry is real, so I always try to keep a snack on hand before I start snapping at people who don't deserve it, or messing up simple work because I can't concentrate as well. Maybe you can handle hunger better, and obviously if I was actually starving or unable to procure food it would be a different problem, but there can be real physical effects to being a bit hungry.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 15, 2018, 11:00:52 AM
Hangry is a legit thing.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MNBen on November 15, 2018, 11:15:26 AM
CATALOGS!!!!!

Good LORD, I cannot believe how many catalogs show up in my mailbox. I am not even a big consumer. I meticulously go online and submit requests to be removed from people's mailing lists -- several times a week, it seems -- but since businesses so routinely sell their lists to one another, there are days when I feel like I'll never, ever get to the end of it.

I saw a lot of responses, so here are some resources to help get yourself off of mailing lists:

http://www.ecocycle.org/junkmail
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0262-stopping-unsolicited-mail-phone-calls-and-email
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 15, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.

I'm no parenting expert (far from it), but it seems that the "This is what we're eating, and you will eat it too, if you're hungry" approach tends to work for kids. I mean, you don't see kids in third world countries starving to death because they don't like whatever awful food happens to be available.

Which leads me to... I hate the fact that our culture has become one of constant eating. I love food, but I really try to eat only when hungry and not use food as entertainment. The average American's day is pretty much one giant meal occasionally interrupted by an activity. We're surrounded by food, smells of food, discussions of food, and photos of food in ads. I've actually had to explain to people that they will be just fine if their next meal is delayed by a few hours. It won't do any physical harm! People panic when they start to feel real hunger because they're not used to feeling it and think something must be going very wrong!
I don't eat constantly, but I have definitely noticed that I get more distracted and irritable and bothered by smaller things when I haven't eaten in a few hours. My boyfriend has noticed as well, and we joke about him having to carry a granola bar in case I get upset over something minor. I'm usually a pretty happy and easy going person, but being hangry is real, so I always try to keep a snack on hand before I start snapping at people who don't deserve it, or messing up simple work because I can't concentrate as well. Maybe you can handle hunger better, and obviously if I was actually starving or unable to procure food it would be a different problem, but there can be real physical effects to being a bit hungry.

But perhaps we get hangry because we've trained our bodies a certain way? I've also seen people get irritable when they don't have easy access to their smartphones, that's certainly not a natural reaction.

I think we can train ourselves to become irritable over any slight discomfort if we always give in to our discomfort much like any kid will become a brat if you give them what they want whenever they throw a fit. Your body throws a little fit, it gets what it wants.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 15, 2018, 12:20:10 PM
It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.

I'm no parenting expert (far from it), but it seems that the "This is what we're eating, and you will eat it too, if you're hungry" approach tends to work for kids. I mean, you don't see kids in third world countries starving to death because they don't like whatever awful food happens to be available.

Which leads me to... I hate the fact that our culture has become one of constant eating. I love food, but I really try to eat only when hungry and not use food as entertainment. The average American's day is pretty much one giant meal occasionally interrupted by an activity. We're surrounded by food, smells of food, discussions of food, and photos of food in ads. I've actually had to explain to people that they will be just fine if their next meal is delayed by a few hours. It won't do any physical harm! People panic when they start to feel real hunger because they're not used to feeling it and think something must be going very wrong!
I don't eat constantly, but I have definitely noticed that I get more distracted and irritable and bothered by smaller things when I haven't eaten in a few hours. My boyfriend has noticed as well, and we joke about him having to carry a granola bar in case I get upset over something minor. I'm usually a pretty happy and easy going person, but being hangry is real, so I always try to keep a snack on hand before I start snapping at people who don't deserve it, or messing up simple work because I can't concentrate as well. Maybe you can handle hunger better, and obviously if I was actually starving or unable to procure food it would be a different problem, but there can be real physical effects to being a bit hungry.

But perhaps we get hangry because we've trained our bodies a certain way? I've also seen people get irritable when they don't have easy access to their smartphones, that's certainly not a natural reaction.

I think we can train ourselves to become irritable over any slight discomfort if we always give in to our discomfort much like any kid will become a brat if you give them what they want whenever they throw a fit. Your body throws a little fit, it gets what it wants.
Well I don't think irritability due to low blood sugar is necessarily my body throwing a fit, it's just sending natural signals about something it considers a problem. As long as I'm eating on a regular schedule, I don't think eating when I'm hungry is a problem that I need to solve by ignoring my body's cues. I will usually drink some water as a first resort, but I don't really see the point in purposely delaying a meal to train my body to get over being hungry. That could easily turn into disordered eating.
Of course, this would be a different issue if someone genuinely had an eating addiction or was constantly inhaling food. I eat three meals a day with one or two snacks in between, which is a perfectly healthy schedule, and I usually only get hangry when there's an unusually long stretch between feedings.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 15, 2018, 12:46:01 PM
It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.

I'm no parenting expert (far from it), but it seems that the "This is what we're eating, and you will eat it too, if you're hungry" approach tends to work for kids. I mean, you don't see kids in third world countries starving to death because they don't like whatever awful food happens to be available.

Which leads me to... I hate the fact that our culture has become one of constant eating. I love food, but I really try to eat only when hungry and not use food as entertainment. The average American's day is pretty much one giant meal occasionally interrupted by an activity. We're surrounded by food, smells of food, discussions of food, and photos of food in ads. I've actually had to explain to people that they will be just fine if their next meal is delayed by a few hours. It won't do any physical harm! People panic when they start to feel real hunger because they're not used to feeling it and think something must be going very wrong!
I don't eat constantly, but I have definitely noticed that I get more distracted and irritable and bothered by smaller things when I haven't eaten in a few hours. My boyfriend has noticed as well, and we joke about him having to carry a granola bar in case I get upset over something minor. I'm usually a pretty happy and easy going person, but being hangry is real, so I always try to keep a snack on hand before I start snapping at people who don't deserve it, or messing up simple work because I can't concentrate as well. Maybe you can handle hunger better, and obviously if I was actually starving or unable to procure food it would be a different problem, but there can be real physical effects to being a bit hungry.

But perhaps we get hangry because we've trained our bodies a certain way? I've also seen people get irritable when they don't have easy access to their smartphones, that's certainly not a natural reaction.

I think we can train ourselves to become irritable over any slight discomfort if we always give in to our discomfort much like any kid will become a brat if you give them what they want whenever they throw a fit. Your body throws a little fit, it gets what it wants.
Well I don't think irritability due to low blood sugar is necessarily my body throwing a fit, it's just sending natural signals about something it considers a problem. As long as I'm eating on a regular schedule, I don't think eating when I'm hungry is a problem that I need to solve by ignoring my body's cues. I will usually drink some water as a first resort, but I don't really see the point in purposely delaying a meal to train my body to get over being hungry. That could easily turn into disordered eating.
Of course, this would be a different issue if someone genuinely had an eating addiction or was constantly inhaling food. I eat three meals a day with one or two snacks in between, which is a perfectly healthy schedule, and I usually only get hangry when there's an unusually long stretch between feedings.

I wasn't suggesting that it's a problem, just that the response of irritability to slight hunger pains is learned behavior that falls in line with what ketchup was saying. And of course every person is different, some people actually have an acute response to low blood sugar.

I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Mississippi Mudstache on November 15, 2018, 12:59:42 PM
The old saying:

You have two choices for dinner

1. Take it
2. Or leave it

Ha. Wish I could use this on my picky eater. He has no feeling from his belly button down (born with spina bifida), and he's only 5, so we're not even sure that he perceives hunger in the same way that we do. He gained zero weight between 6 months and 2-1/2 years, so withholding food was not an option. We have made countless attempts to get him to eat healthier, and they've all ended in hours of crying and resentment, so we just do our best to accommodate his tastes (heavy on carbs and dairy, very few vegetables, and absolutely no fruit whatsoever) and get on with our lives. Frankly, it could be worse. Cheese quesadillas and peanut butter sandwiches are about the easiest foods possible to prepare.

I was a picky eater as a kid, too. The only veggies I ate until college were green beans and Irish potatoes. I grew out of it, and so will he. My daughter is an eclectic eater, but it's not because we forced her to try stuff. She's just naturally more inclined to try foods that she isn't familiar with.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 15, 2018, 01:09:29 PM
It's possible my parents could have inspired some of it had they done things differently, but I really have no idea what could have worked.

I'm no parenting expert (far from it), but it seems that the "This is what we're eating, and you will eat it too, if you're hungry" approach tends to work for kids. I mean, you don't see kids in third world countries starving to death because they don't like whatever awful food happens to be available.

Which leads me to... I hate the fact that our culture has become one of constant eating. I love food, but I really try to eat only when hungry and not use food as entertainment. The average American's day is pretty much one giant meal occasionally interrupted by an activity. We're surrounded by food, smells of food, discussions of food, and photos of food in ads. I've actually had to explain to people that they will be just fine if their next meal is delayed by a few hours. It won't do any physical harm! People panic when they start to feel real hunger because they're not used to feeling it and think something must be going very wrong!
I don't eat constantly, but I have definitely noticed that I get more distracted and irritable and bothered by smaller things when I haven't eaten in a few hours. My boyfriend has noticed as well, and we joke about him having to carry a granola bar in case I get upset over something minor. I'm usually a pretty happy and easy going person, but being hangry is real, so I always try to keep a snack on hand before I start snapping at people who don't deserve it, or messing up simple work because I can't concentrate as well. Maybe you can handle hunger better, and obviously if I was actually starving or unable to procure food it would be a different problem, but there can be real physical effects to being a bit hungry.

But perhaps we get hangry because we've trained our bodies a certain way? I've also seen people get irritable when they don't have easy access to their smartphones, that's certainly not a natural reaction.

I think we can train ourselves to become irritable over any slight discomfort if we always give in to our discomfort much like any kid will become a brat if you give them what they want whenever they throw a fit. Your body throws a little fit, it gets what it wants.
Well I don't think irritability due to low blood sugar is necessarily my body throwing a fit, it's just sending natural signals about something it considers a problem. As long as I'm eating on a regular schedule, I don't think eating when I'm hungry is a problem that I need to solve by ignoring my body's cues. I will usually drink some water as a first resort, but I don't really see the point in purposely delaying a meal to train my body to get over being hungry. That could easily turn into disordered eating.
Of course, this would be a different issue if someone genuinely had an eating addiction or was constantly inhaling food. I eat three meals a day with one or two snacks in between, which is a perfectly healthy schedule, and I usually only get hangry when there's an unusually long stretch between feedings.

I wasn't suggesting that it's a problem, just that the response of irritability to slight hunger pains is learned behavior that falls in line with what ketchup was saying. And of course every person is different, some people actually have an acute response to low blood sugar.

I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.

I've bonked a few times on long bike rides.  My body does weird things to my emotions when I get low blood sugar, things way beyond a little irritability.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 15, 2018, 01:28:23 PM
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I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.
There are actually studies that indicate that fasting can be a risk factor for disordered eating. Not always, and not in everyone, but there is a link there. For a person at a healthy weight, restricting calories or eating times is unnecessary and potentially harmful. For people with current or former eating disorders, fasting is downright dangerous, and for overweight individuals, fasting as a weight loss strategy should probably only be done with the supervision of a doctor.
That being said, I just meant to point out that hanger is real, going too long without food can cause it, and eating when you're hungry is probably the best way to go, instead of trying to train your body to ignore those cues as if eating is some sort of addiction, because it's not.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on November 16, 2018, 08:24:10 AM
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I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.
There are actually studies that indicate that fasting can be a risk factor for disordered eating. Not always, and not in everyone, but there is a link there. For a person at a healthy weight, restricting calories or eating times is unnecessary and potentially harmful. For people with current or former eating disorders, fasting is downright dangerous, and for overweight individuals, fasting as a weight loss strategy should probably only be done with the supervision of a doctor.
That being said, I just meant to point out that hanger is real, going too long without food can cause it, and eating when you're hungry is probably the best way to go, instead of trying to train your body to ignore those cues as if eating is some sort of addiction, because it's not.

citation link?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 16, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
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I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.
There are actually studies that indicate that fasting can be a risk factor for disordered eating. Not always, and not in everyone, but there is a link there. For a person at a healthy weight, restricting calories or eating times is unnecessary and potentially harmful. For people with current or former eating disorders, fasting is downright dangerous, and for overweight individuals, fasting as a weight loss strategy should probably only be done with the supervision of a doctor.
That being said, I just meant to point out that hanger is real, going too long without food can cause it, and eating when you're hungry is probably the best way to go, instead of trying to train your body to ignore those cues as if eating is some sort of addiction, because it's not.

citation link?
Not a study, but a discussion on why you shouldn't ignore hunger cues
http://nedic.ca/blog/your-hunger-not-meant-be-suppressed
A study that shows a link between fasting and bulimia
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2850570/
And this is about the link between religious fasting and eating disorders
https://www.scienceofeds.org/2015/04/10/not-so-fast-is-there-a-connection-between-religious-fasting-and-eating-disorders/

From what I can tell, it seems like fasting can be a trigger for an eating disorder for some people, but obviously not everyone who fasts will develop one.
If I can tie this back into the thread title, I hate how our culture pushes such a narrow beauty ideal and so much bad science on nutrition and eating habits to the point that people literally kill themselves and live miserable lives dieting to attain that ideal. I blame the processed food industry too for the disinformation and advertising they push to get people to eat their garbage products. I think the obesity issue and the eating disorder issue are both symptoms of a society that is fed conflicting ideas about how to eat well.
I hate how far removed most people's eating habits are from what is healthy and how it is perceived as too difficult or expensive to eat a diet of mostly whole natural foods prepared at home and shared among loved ones.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on November 16, 2018, 10:46:40 AM
(cutting for length)

I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.
There are actually studies that indicate that fasting can be a risk factor for disordered eating. Not always, and not in everyone, but there is a link there. For a person at a healthy weight, restricting calories or eating times is unnecessary and potentially harmful. For people with current or former eating disorders, fasting is downright dangerous, and for overweight individuals, fasting as a weight loss strategy should probably only be done with the supervision of a doctor.
That being said, I just meant to point out that hanger is real, going too long without food can cause it, and eating when you're hungry is probably the best way to go, instead of trying to train your body to ignore those cues as if eating is some sort of addiction, because it's not.

citation link?
Not a study, but a discussion on why you shouldn't ignore hunger cues
http://nedic.ca/blog/your-hunger-not-meant-be-suppressed
A study that shows a link between fasting and bulimia
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2850570/
And this is about the link between religious fasting and eating disorders
https://www.scienceofeds.org/2015/04/10/not-so-fast-is-there-a-connection-between-religious-fasting-and-eating-disorders/

From what I can tell, it seems like fasting can be a trigger for an eating disorder for some people, but obviously not everyone who fasts will develop one.
If I can tie this back into the thread title, I hate how our culture pushes such a narrow beauty ideal and so much bad science on nutrition and eating habits to the point that people literally kill themselves and live miserable lives dieting to attain that ideal. I blame the processed food industry too for the disinformation and advertising they push to get people to eat their garbage products. I think the obesity issue and the eating disorder issue are both symptoms of a society that is fed conflicting ideas about how to eat well.
I hate how far removed most people's eating habits are from what is healthy and how it is perceived as too difficult or expensive to eat a diet of mostly whole natural foods prepared at home and shared among loved ones.

ah, got it.  in the context of eating disorders, you don't want to encourage at-risk persons to stop eating.

i've mostly seen time restricted feeding and fasting in the context of athletic performance and as a way to reverse metabolic disease. 

i share your hate and disgust for the food/marketing/beauty industry.  i refuse to watch anything with commercials.  my daughter is 9 so she's about to be bombarded with toxic messaging from that segment of our society.  she hardly ever sees tv commercials so i'd say 80% of it will be averted, but you can't control what her friends are watching and repeating so i'm sure we'll have an ongoing conversation about image and all that.  thankfully she's a fully committed athlete, which keeps her busy and fit.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 16, 2018, 10:50:00 AM
I hate it that they are showing Christmas commercials and Christmas music already. GRRRRRR!!!! Now for 6 weeks that is all we will hear.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 16, 2018, 10:53:44 AM
I hate it that they are showing Christmas commercials and Christmas music already. GRRRRRR!!!! Now for 6 weeks that is all we will hear.

Not if you don't watch TV and avoid radio like I do from Nov - Jan every year.  Bah, humbug.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on November 16, 2018, 11:04:22 AM
I hate it that they are showing Christmas commercials and Christmas music already. GRRRRRR!!!! Now for 6 weeks that is all we will hear.

Not if you don't watch TV and avoid radio like I do from Nov - Jan every year.  Bah, humbug.

And Christmas music in general. My taste in music doesn't change with the seasons.

If we could limit it to carolers and Christmas day/eve that'd be great.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on November 16, 2018, 11:12:10 AM
I hate it that they are showing Christmas commercials and Christmas music already. GRRRRRR!!!! Now for 6 weeks that is all we will hear.

Not if you don't watch TV and avoid radio like I do from Nov - Jan every year.  Bah, humbug.

And Christmas music in general. My taste in music doesn't change with the seasons.

If we could limit it to carolers and Christmas day/eve that'd be great.

Yes, there are a couple hours every year (either on Christmas eve or Christmas morning) where certain types of Christmas music is appropriate.

Actually, no.

There's only one acceptable Christmas song . . . it's the Carol of the Bells, as performed by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra.  That song can be played on repeat during those designated Christmas hours.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: EricL on November 16, 2018, 11:32:32 AM
I call for a nationwide ban on The Little Drummer Boy in all its incarnations. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 16, 2018, 11:43:42 AM
They play Christmas music in all the stores and it is beyond annoying. They think they are putting people in the spirit. They are putting me into anger mode. I DO NOT WANT to hear it! I have heard it all my life and enough is enough. Play it in your homes, not in public places unless people know it is going to be playing there.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: ketchup on November 16, 2018, 01:30:09 PM
They play Christmas music in all the stores and it is beyond annoying. They think they are putting people in the spirit. They are putting me into anger mode. I DO NOT WANT to hear it! I have heard it all my life and enough is enough. Play it in your homes, not in public places unless people know it is going to be playing there.
I got to hear someone outside the grocery store singing Jingle Bells yesterday.  You're a fine singer, but I don't need to hear that while I'm just trying to go in, buy my bananas and broccoli and GTFO.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 19, 2018, 03:42:21 AM
They play Christmas music in all the stores and it is beyond annoying. They think they are putting people in the spirit. They are putting me into anger mode. I DO NOT WANT to hear it! I have heard it all my life and enough is enough. Play it in your homes, not in public places unless people know it is going to be playing there.

I can so much recommend online shopping, especially for things like Christmas presents. Like on Black Friday I want to shop something in the hope that the price will be lowered. But I don't bother visiting the physical shop. At home I don't hear the Christmas music (sound on PC is by default turned off) and I don't have to bother with lots of other customers.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: calimom on November 19, 2018, 08:10:42 PM
People who talk in a movie theater!

The rest of us paid our admission fees and there's a pretty good chance that we came to actually SEE THE MOVIE. Not listen to a couple of gal pals who are chattering away mindlessly and discussing who texted them 3 seconds ago. While rustling their way through a $14 bag of Milk Duds. SHUT UP.

Generally you could consider me pretty much of a pacifist. But talking during a movie should be considered a felony, punishable by a year in a silent Buddhist monastery.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: EricL on November 20, 2018, 01:56:17 AM
People who talk in a movie theater!

The rest of us paid our admission fees and there's a pretty good chance that we came to actually SEE THE MOVIE. Not listen to a couple of gal pals who are chattering away mindlessly and discussing who texted them 3 seconds ago. While rustling their way through a $14 bag of Milk Duds. SHUT UP.

Generally you could consider me pretty much of a pacifist. But talking during a movie should be considered a felony, punishable by a year in a silent Buddhist monastery.

Why would you plague innocent monks and nuns with people like that?  Lock them in a cell for a month and play The Little Drummer Boy 24/7.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: DS on November 20, 2018, 07:32:23 AM
People who talk in a movie theater!

The rest of us paid our admission fees and there's a pretty good chance that we came to actually SEE THE MOVIE. Not listen to a couple of gal pals who are chattering away mindlessly and discussing who texted them 3 seconds ago. While rustling their way through a $14 bag of Milk Duds. SHUT UP.

Generally you could consider me pretty much of a pacifist. But talking during a movie should be considered a felony, punishable by a year in a silent Buddhist monastery.

Funny bit from Tom Segura:

"If you bring a baby into a movie theater, you're a piece of shit. If your reason for doing it is that you couldn't get a babysitter, then you don't get to go to the movies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOQjJ3lCfpQ
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 20, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
Why do people bring babies to car races or baseball or football games where there is danger and too much noise for a babies ears?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on November 20, 2018, 08:50:06 AM
Why do people bring babies to car races or baseball or football games where there is danger and too much noise for a babies ears?
Well when they do they usually put ear protection on the baby, and it's not exactly that dangerous to be a spectator at an event like that. Maybe people want to go do activities and not have to worry about leaving their babies at home, and they want to share something they enjoy with their new little human. It's not like babies need to be kept in isolation for their first few years. (Purely speculating, I don't have any children, but it doesn't bother me to see them out in public)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 23, 2018, 12:30:33 PM
I bought a new Sony phone and tried to transfer all my stuff from my old Samsung phone. That doesn't work. I have managed to transfer about half of the contacts. The rest is on my Samsung account instead of om my sim card.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: soccerluvof4 on November 27, 2018, 05:43:36 AM
People who talk in a movie theater!

The rest of us paid our admission fees and there's a pretty good chance that we came to actually SEE THE MOVIE. Not listen to a couple of gal pals who are chattering away mindlessly and discussing who texted them 3 seconds ago. While rustling their way through a $14 bag of Milk Duds. SHUT UP.

Generally you could consider me pretty much of a pacifist. But talking during a movie should be considered a felony, punishable by a year in a silent Buddhist monastery.




Big one for me and why i wont go to the movies anymore. Between that and the food crunching its just gotten ridiculous or I am just getting old! probably combination of both. Besides most movies are not worth not waiting for to come out at redbox, netflix or?
Title: Re: Things you hate (no more)
Post by: Linea_Norway on November 27, 2018, 07:45:49 AM
Somewhere higher up in this thread I probably complained about technical issues at my job that didn't work.
The two browser-based programs that I use most all the time, didn't work when I take my laptop out of it's docking station. Madness: I have put up with that for 4 years.
But suddenly today, in a meeting with 2 co-workers, I found out it was working for both of them. I checked my own laptop, and it worked there as well. So now I can finally take my laptop to a meeting room and do some work, instead of logging in through Citrix or other badly working solutions.
So one of my major hate-issues at work has finally disappeared!
The person who made the change could have sent out an email about the improvement though, but all in all I am very pleased about it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: John Galt incarnate! on November 28, 2018, 11:57:00 AM
I hate it that they are showing Christmas commercials and Christmas music already. GRRRRRR!!!! Now for 6 weeks that is all we will hear.

KEEP CHRI$T IN XMA$.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on November 30, 2018, 02:30:49 PM
GRRRRRR, I just went over to a town that is about 8 miles away from my house. I live on an extremely windy State road but it is only two narrow lanes. The speed limit is 30-35 miles an hour (it changes) and even less, 20 miles per hour on certain elbow curves. It does NOT matter how fast I travel on that road someone tailgates me. Today I went around 40 miles per hour which is 10 MPH over the posted speed limit. Can anyone tell me what is the mentality of tail gaters? This is a very dangerous curvy narrow road. I have seen people drive on it going probably 65 MPH. I really don't know how they navigate these sharp curves. Many do have crashes on this road and telephone poles get hit all the time. Why is there never a cop around when tailgaters are tailgating? This isn't the only road I get tailgated on. It seems everywhere people are so obnoxious and disregard all driving rules. Not to mention we have deer and wild turkeys that can be in the road at any given moment. I am surprised there aren't dead bodies all over the roads from accidents.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: blackomen on December 02, 2018, 08:17:46 AM
I am despising shipping methods. I am trying to organize my house and I have been purchasing some different type of organizers. Some of the stuff is taking two weeks or more to get here. Some come directly from China and that takes weeks and weeks. This Smart Post delivery is the worst. By the time I get the items I have kind of forgotten what I bought them for. I did tracking on some of my packages and they made around 15 stops to get to CT. Seems we are going backwards in delivery service instead of forward. Like the stuff is coming by mule train. If companies use the Post Office I find the items arrive very quickly. Any other method is so slow!

Another reason I don't buy cheap stuff shipped directly from China (or any other place overseas) to save a few bucks.  On Ebay, I'll even filter out anything that doesn't ship from North America.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on December 03, 2018, 02:33:10 AM
GRRRRRR, I just went over to a town that is about 8 miles away from my house. I live on an extremely windy State road but it is only two narrow lanes. The speed limit is 30-35 miles an hour (it changes) and even less, 20 miles per hour on certain elbow curves. It does NOT matter how fast I travel on that road someone tailgates me. Today I went around 40 miles per hour which is 10 MPH over the posted speed limit. Can anyone tell me what is the mentality of tail gaters? This is a very dangerous curvy narrow road. I have seen people drive on it going probably 65 MPH. I really don't know how they navigate these sharp curves. Many do have crashes on this road and telephone poles get hit all the time. Why is there never a cop around when tailgaters are tailgating? This isn't the only road I get tailgated on. It seems everywhere people are so obnoxious and disregard all driving rules. Not to mention we have deer and wild turkeys that can be in the road at any given moment. I am surprised there aren't dead bodies all over the roads from accidents.

+1. Many people drive far above the speed limit. And some of them end up with their car wrapped up around a streetlight pole. Some others end up killing someone else.
I try to drive responsibly (slow enough) on roads in my neighbourhood with 30 km/h limit. But indeed, there is always a car tailgating me and passing me as soon as there is a chance.

On particularly dangerous roads, the road owner could/should set up speed cameras or even devices that measure average speed over a distance, if such things are allowed in your country. Can't you request for a speed camera to be set up?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on December 03, 2018, 08:12:02 AM
Coconuts. The flavor is not good, the texture is terrible. I can eat most anything but its the one thing I put my foot down about.

Linda in Norway: avoid the review articles about phones. I found that they nitpicked details no normal person would worry about. Same as the car magazine articles about new cars. The article is a blend of the manufacturer's press release (the positives) and then perhaps one or two nit picky negative opinions that the writer relies on to prove that they are being objective.

If you want an Android device look at the Asus Zenfone series. I bought an older version 3. Its been great. Nice camera and display, good free apps from the manufacturer, long battery life, etc.

These are so frustrating. "Wellll, I really don't like the way you can see finger smudges on the metal backing so there's definitely some cons... but here's 17 AMAZING things about this phone!"

Fun Fact: When you find one of those reviews that has one very miniscule negative point and then multiple positive points, it is likely a paid review.  They write them that way so as not to catch Amazon/Ebay/Whatevers attention but to still provide a ranking boost for the company who is paying them.

Maybe you were already saying this and I lost it in the thread, but I just thought I'd mention that.

Thanks. You're right!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on December 03, 2018, 08:14:22 AM
I rarely go to Whole Foods, but occasionally I need something I can't find elsewhere. I assume it's some sort of corporate rule, because in two different states now, the cashiers have asked me if I "have any fun plans for today/tonight/this weekend." Typically it's just a regular day for me, so no, I don't. I almost feel like I should make something up! "The Queen is coming to dinner" or "Yes, I'm so excited to go home and organize my sock drawer!" I understand they're trying to be friendly, but it feels like prying. "Hello" would be sufficient.

You could try the response I would use:

"Nope."


99.9% effective . . . 

:P

Oh yes, tonight we are having a group ritual murder of the neighbor's cat. We'll roast him over a fire and then eat him...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on December 03, 2018, 08:21:21 AM
I hate it when I am trying to read an on line paper and these damn pop ups keep interrupting me! STUPID advertisements. I will never to go to the restaurants that pop up. Or when they force you to watch an advertisement for 30 seconds before you can 'skip' out of it! I refuse to watch it! STUPID!

Install these in your browser: EFF HTTPS, EFF Badger, uBlock Origin. Badger and Origin do some of the same things but they don't conflict.

They pretty much take care of all the popups, simplify the ads on a website, and make life better. They are from trusted software sources.

I don't mind websites making a living but some are really obnoxious. I avoid websites that are that intrusive. 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on December 03, 2018, 08:22:39 AM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

They are damn good in caprese salads though...
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on December 03, 2018, 08:30:30 AM
Raw tomatoes are the Devil.  Except - for some damn reason - in Turkey (the country).
I'll agree, but with the exception of thinly sliced on a burger or salad.  But nowhere else.

They are damn good in caprese salads though...

Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Free Spirit on December 03, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
I hate empty promises.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Aelias on December 03, 2018, 01:19:36 PM
What bugs me isn't the junk mail itself, it's the waste.  Unfortunately, returning to sender just creates more waste . . . it doesn't address the problem.

Completely agree. And on that note, I'm horrified and disgusted by the number of print catalogs I get from companies whose entire purported MO is environmental sustainability/justice, etc. Makes me absolutely rage.

If anyone else has a compost worm farm, I can happily report that our worms eat up a decent amount of our junk mail (particularly those newsprint circulars that we can never seem to get rid of).  Great for controlling moisture when they get a little soggy.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: EricL on December 03, 2018, 05:31:33 PM
What bugs me isn't the junk mail itself, it's the waste.  Unfortunately, returning to sender just creates more waste . . . it doesn't address the problem.

Completely agree. And on that note, I'm horrified and disgusted by the number of print catalogs I get from companies whose entire purported MO is environmental sustainability/justice, etc. Makes me absolutely rage.

If anyone else has a compost worm farm, I can happily report that our worms eat up a decent amount of our junk mail (particularly those newsprint circulars that we can never seem to get rid of).  Great for controlling moisture when they get a little soggy.

Oddly, I've never received catalogues in the mail.  But I have heard you can take them and other junk mail and turn them into logs.

https://www.instructables.com/id/Cook-Using-Junk-Mail-Make-Paper-Logs-Burn-in-a-Roc/

And if your house is designed for it, heat it with a rocket stove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJyxptclos
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Jtrey17 on December 09, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
What bugs me isn't the junk mail itself, it's the waste.  Unfortunately, returning to sender just creates more waste . . . it doesn't address the problem.


If anyone else has a compost worm farm, I can happily report that our worms eat up a decent amount of our junk mail (particularly those newsprint circulars that we can never seem to get rid of).  Great for controlling moisture when they get a little soggy.
I have been thinking of starting composting for a while now-can I hear more about worm composting?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on December 09, 2018, 10:07:46 AM
I placed an order November 27th. The items shipped from Texas. I have been tracking the shipment and it arrived to my town in CT on December 5th. I should have gotten it the next day but NOPE, it sat at the PO till December 8th and then went to Vermont! WTF? The location is 4 hours north of my town. So Monday it will be 13 days from time of order IF by chance it arrives here. Post Office blew it. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!

This shipping crap is really irking me. Anyone getting delivery from Laser Ship? Walmart uses it and they are the worst! Packages arrive at odd hours and late at night. They place giant boxes in front of your front door so you can't even open the door! With this cold weather if you order something liquid it will freeze if you don't know the package is out there. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on December 09, 2018, 02:36:15 PM
I hate: The architectural " style" that has the garage as the major/ only feature. I've been in residential neighborhoods that looked like industrial alleyways.   
I understand tight lots, but would pushing the garage back a few feet really be that much of a problem?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on December 10, 2018, 12:37:21 AM
I have been thinking of starting composting for a while now-can I hear more about worm composting?

You don't necessarily need the worms. We have a large composting bin in the garden that is insulated on the outside and on the top. It is animal proof. We just add greens from the kitchen and from the garden. From time to time we stir the top layer around with a small pitchfork. If it is too humid, we add some sawdust from a bag that came with the bin. It works very well. Within half a year, the lower half turns to earth. This has happened several times already. We can take the earth it out from below. We bought the bin secondhand for a low price. It does smell a bit in the summer, when the decaying process goes fast. So it should be in a place where it doesn't bother you or your neighbours.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GreenSheep on December 10, 2018, 09:23:38 AM
I hate: The architectural " style" that has the garage as the major/ only feature. I've been in residential neighborhoods that looked like industrial alleyways.   
I understand tight lots, but would pushing the garage back a few feet really be that much of a problem?


We call that a Garage Mahal. It was a deal-breaker when I was house hunting.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on December 10, 2018, 12:16:05 PM
I hate: The architectural " style" that has the garage as the major/ only feature. I've been in residential neighborhoods that looked like industrial alleyways.   
I understand tight lots, but would pushing the garage back a few feet really be that much of a problem?
We call that a Garage Mahal. It was a deal-breaker when I was house hunting.
The name sounds better than they look!   It is  really bad in cooky-cutter developments.  I was trying to insert a pic, but I don't know/forgotten how.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Just Joe on December 10, 2018, 02:38:53 PM
Tiny lots almost dictate that kind of home design. I new someone whose garage was on the back of the house. There was a driveway's width of space between the end of the house and the property line. Once the car got around back there was a big concrete pad to turn around on or the driver could simply back into the rear facing garage. It worked well and gave the front of the house a tidy look.

From a garage hobbyist point of view a forward facing garage is terrible b/c in the evening if the garage door is open then anyone who passes by can see all your hobby equipment - tools, gym equipment, whatever. Night time lights make it even worse. Great way to attract thieves.

I'm happy someone wants to live in those tight little neighborhoods with the forward facing garages. Not my family though. Our garage is our project space. We don't need a mansion, just a cottage size house but the lot needs to give us enough outside space to play.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MrsWolfeRN on December 10, 2018, 04:20:21 PM
I hate: The architectural " style" that has the garage as the major/ only feature. I've been in residential neighborhoods that looked like industrial alleyways.   
I understand tight lots, but would pushing the garage back a few feet really be that much of a problem?
We call that a Garage Mahal. It was a deal-breaker when I was house hunting.
The name sounds better than they look!   It is  really bad in cooky-cutter developments.  I was trying to insert a pic, but I don't know/forgotten how.
I hate it too for aesthetic reasons but see the point of it from an efficiency standpoint. Much less snow to shovel, and you get more green space behind the house. I have never lived in one. My parents have the garage underneath the house, which accomplishes the same thing without being so glaring.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on December 11, 2018, 02:19:55 AM
I hate: The architectural " style" that has the garage as the major/ only feature. I've been in residential neighborhoods that looked like industrial alleyways.   
I understand tight lots, but would pushing the garage back a few feet really be that much of a problem?
We call that a Garage Mahal. It was a deal-breaker when I was house hunting.
The name sounds better than they look!   It is  really bad in cooky-cutter developments.  I was trying to insert a pic, but I don't know/forgotten how.
I hate it too for aesthetic reasons but see the point of it from an efficiency standpoint. Much less snow to shovel, and you get more green space behind the house. I have never lived in one. My parents have the garage underneath the house, which accomplishes the same thing without being so glaring.

One of my colleagues is building an underground garage. That is a really expensive solution compared to building one above ground. Pretty, but not the most economic solution.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on December 11, 2018, 07:47:26 AM
(cutting for length)

I wouldn't worry about occasional fasting turning into disordered eating, there's lots of evidence of health benefits and of all the studies I've seen there's never been any indication that temporary fasting can change eating patterns in an unhealthy way.
There are actually studies that indicate that fasting can be a risk factor for disordered eating. Not always, and not in everyone, but there is a link there. For a person at a healthy weight, restricting calories or eating times is unnecessary and potentially harmful. For people with current or former eating disorders, fasting is downright dangerous, and for overweight individuals, fasting as a weight loss strategy should probably only be done with the supervision of a doctor.
That being said, I just meant to point out that hanger is real, going too long without food can cause it, and eating when you're hungry is probably the best way to go, instead of trying to train your body to ignore those cues as if eating is some sort of addiction, because it's not.

citation link?
Not a study, but a discussion on why you shouldn't ignore hunger cues
http://nedic.ca/blog/your-hunger-not-meant-be-suppressed
A study that shows a link between fasting and bulimia
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2850570/
And this is about the link between religious fasting and eating disorders
https://www.scienceofeds.org/2015/04/10/not-so-fast-is-there-a-connection-between-religious-fasting-and-eating-disorders/

From what I can tell, it seems like fasting can be a trigger for an eating disorder for some people, but obviously not everyone who fasts will develop one.
If I can tie this back into the thread title, I hate how our culture pushes such a narrow beauty ideal and so much bad science on nutrition and eating habits to the point that people literally kill themselves and live miserable lives dieting to attain that ideal. I blame the processed food industry too for the disinformation and advertising they push to get people to eat their garbage products. I think the obesity issue and the eating disorder issue are both symptoms of a society that is fed conflicting ideas about how to eat well.
I hate how far removed most people's eating habits are from what is healthy and how it is perceived as too difficult or expensive to eat a diet of mostly whole natural foods prepared at home and shared among loved ones.

ah, got it.  in the context of eating disorders, you don't want to encourage at-risk persons to stop eating.

i've mostly seen time restricted feeding and fasting in the context of athletic performance and as a way to reverse metabolic disease. 

i share your hate and disgust for the food/marketing/beauty industry.  i refuse to watch anything with commercials.  my daughter is 9 so she's about to be bombarded with toxic messaging from that segment of our society.  she hardly ever sees tv commercials so i'd say 80% of it will be averted, but you can't control what her friends are watching and repeating so i'm sure we'll have an ongoing conversation about image and all that.  thankfully she's a fully committed athlete, which keeps her busy and fit.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/12/05/giudice-on-the-self-starvation-cycle/ 
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on December 14, 2018, 07:17:48 AM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: markbike528CBX on December 14, 2018, 07:41:23 AM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Apparently China and other countries are tired of low quality recycling ( really just garbage) dumped on them.  Smaller communities are now just chucking everything.

I remember at work the same happened.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on December 14, 2018, 08:06:57 AM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Apparently China and other countries are tired of low quality recycling ( really just garbage) dumped on them.  Smaller communities are now just chucking everything.

I remember at work the same happened.


I have seen this before but they went back to normal pick up where they had separate trucks pick it up. Sometimes I think they are short handed and just say screw it and just use one truck. I did hear about the China thing and this has got to be a disaster on what to do with all this plastic, cans and newspapers. What are they doing with all the soda cans that we recycle?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on December 14, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Some garbage trucks are divided on the back. The rest garbage goes left, the other goes right. Let's hope it was that. Ask a question to your provider or ask the local newspaper to check it.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on February 25, 2019, 09:11:34 PM
I have glaucoma and am always at the eye doctor for pressure checks on my eye balls. I went on Medicare last year and also bought Plan F supplement. With Plan F, I should have almost no doctor bills. So I go to the eye specialist the other day after about 2 months and I am thinking I will not get charged. When I am done, they tell me I owe $55 for the eye test (for glasses). I did not ask for this test and did not give it any thought when the doctor was doing it. I had the damn test done 6 months prior. SOOOO, this doctor is scamming to get additional monies from his patients. Before I went to the appointment, I said to myself, Okay, I am on Medicare and Plan F so I shouldn't pay anything today. Then I get hit for $55 because Medicare does not pay for regular eye exams. I paid twice for this exam in one year! I spoke to the woman in the office and asked how many times a year is this regular eye exam done. She said it is only needed one time a year. I mentioned the glaucoma and maybe that had something to do with it and she said NO, it is only needed one time a year. She asked if I wanted her to put a note in my file to only have one exam a year and I said yes. GRRRR!!! This really, really IRKS me!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on February 25, 2019, 09:27:13 PM
Went  to the grocery store on Friday and bought a crap load of stuff. I have some very nice insulated bags and some regular tote bags. I wasn't paying too much attention to the lady who was bagging but what a HORRIBLE job she did. I did not expect she was going to put cans and jars in the insulated bags along with meat and other cold stuff. She also put bread at the bottom of a bag and put some items on top of it and you guessed it, bread was a bit squashed. She also had so much weight on top of the cold cuts, the cheese I bought was bent! I had a box of cereal that was squashed and the box was a disaster. Come on, putting crap in bags is not a job you have to go to college for 4 years. Is there no common sense at all anymore? OMG, when I got out to my car I had to repack everything. This woman didn't look stupid or maybe she just didn't care. UGH! I think as children we all played with blocks and had to figure what shape went into what hole to fit. What is so difficult in packing groceries? Like items go together. Meat and cold items go together. Boxed, items (cereal, pasta, rice, oatmeal) go together. Produce goes together. Canned and glass items go together but not 150 lbs in one bag. Bread, chips, delicate items go together. Laundry and soap items go together.  Simple Simon could do this. UGH!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Johnez on February 25, 2019, 09:58:27 PM
Ahaha, I am totally totally OCD on the bagging thing.  It's ONE of the reasons I go to the cheapie grocery stores that make you bag your own stuff, or I should say *lets you* heh.  When I go home, I want to pick up a bag and go ONE place, refrigerator, pantry, warm produce, bathroom, etc.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Linea_Norway on February 26, 2019, 01:24:42 AM
Went  to the grocery store on Friday and bought a crap load of stuff. I have some very nice insulated bags and some regular tote bags. I wasn't paying too much attention to the lady who was bagging but what a HORRIBLE job she did. I did not expect she was going to put cans and jars in the insulated bags along with meat and other cold stuff. She also put bread at the bottom of a bag and put some items on top of it and you guessed it, bread was a bit squashed. She also had so much weight on top of the cold cuts, the cheese I bought was bent! I had a box of cereal that was squashed and the box was a disaster. Come on, putting crap in bags is not a job you have to go to college for 4 years. Is there no common sense at all anymore? OMG, when I got out to my car I had to repack everything. This woman didn't look stupid or maybe she just didn't care. UGH! I think as children we all played with blocks and had to figure what shape went into what hole to fit. What is so difficult in packing groceries? Like items go together. Meat and cold items go together. Boxed, items (cereal, pasta, rice, oatmeal) go together. Produce goes together. Canned and glass items go together but not 150 lbs in one bag. Bread, chips, delicate items go together. Laundry and soap items go together.  Simple Simon could do this. UGH!

We don't have this, people putting groceries in your bag. We are always stressing ourselves to fill our bags while the cashier is still scanning articles. If I have the time, I pack it in a very organized way. But if the scanning goes fast and the next customer is waiting, I throw everything in in a less organized way. Feel really bad about that. Shopping is best when you are two, so that one person can pack and the other can pay. But when does that happen?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on February 26, 2019, 05:30:43 AM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Some garbage trucks are divided on the back. The rest garbage goes left, the other goes right. Let's hope it was that. Ask a question to your provider or ask the local newspaper to check it.

This recycle thing is becoming a real problem in the USA. China used to take our recyclables but now they have more stringent rules on what they will take and that is almost nothing. So the garbage companies are in a bind as what to do with these things they can't get rid of. There was a show on tv about it and one big problem that was discussed is that we have too many one time use containers going into the trash. All those juice boxes, cans, bottles. Styrofoam that cannot be recycled. All the plastic that is in our oceans. Very sad indeed.

Ahaha, I am totally totally OCD on the bagging thing.  It's ONE of the reasons I go to the cheapie grocery stores that make you bag your own stuff, or I should say *lets you* heh.  When I go home, I want to pick up a bag and go ONE place, refrigerator, pantry, warm produce, bathroom, etc.

My complaint Johnez is geared around what you said. If all my meats, dairy, cold items are in one bag it makes it easier to unload the stuff in the refrigerator. Same with canned, jarred, veggies or boxed things. Everything is in one place and not scattered from bag to bag. I have an organized way of looking at this that the baggers don't seem to have. I do think when cardboard boxes and bread are crushed by cans and jars I do have a reason to crab about it!

Aldi is the only store other than Costco in my area that doesn't pack your grocery bags.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Hula Hoop on February 26, 2019, 05:49:30 AM
Went  to the grocery store on Friday and bought a crap load of stuff. I have some very nice insulated bags and some regular tote bags. I wasn't paying too much attention to the lady who was bagging but what a HORRIBLE job she did. I did not expect she was going to put cans and jars in the insulated bags along with meat and other cold stuff. She also put bread at the bottom of a bag and put some items on top of it and you guessed it, bread was a bit squashed. She also had so much weight on top of the cold cuts, the cheese I bought was bent! I had a box of cereal that was squashed and the box was a disaster. Come on, putting crap in bags is not a job you have to go to college for 4 years. Is there no common sense at all anymore? OMG, when I got out to my car I had to repack everything. This woman didn't look stupid or maybe she just didn't care. UGH! I think as children we all played with blocks and had to figure what shape went into what hole to fit. What is so difficult in packing groceries? Like items go together. Meat and cold items go together. Boxed, items (cereal, pasta, rice, oatmeal) go together. Produce goes together. Canned and glass items go together but not 150 lbs in one bag. Bread, chips, delicate items go together. Laundry and soap items go together.  Simple Simon could do this. UGH!

We don't have this, people putting groceries in your bag. We are always stressing ourselves to fill our bags while the cashier is still scanning articles. If I have the time, I pack it in a very organized way. But if the scanning goes fast and the next customer is waiting, I throw everything in in a less organized way. Feel really bad about that. Shopping is best when you are two, so that one person can pack and the other can pay. But when does that happen?

This is what I hate about grocery shopping here in Italy - I'm usually dealing with 2 kids, while both bagging and paying for my groceries all at the same time.  And then other people get grumpy when I'm not fast enough and there isn't room for their stuff.  I really miss grocery baggers in the US.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on February 26, 2019, 06:11:06 AM
Went  to the grocery store on Friday and bought a crap load of stuff. I have some very nice insulated bags and some regular tote bags. I wasn't paying too much attention to the lady who was bagging but what a HORRIBLE job she did. I did not expect she was going to put cans and jars in the insulated bags along with meat and other cold stuff. She also put bread at the bottom of a bag and put some items on top of it and you guessed it, bread was a bit squashed. She also had so much weight on top of the cold cuts, the cheese I bought was bent! I had a box of cereal that was squashed and the box was a disaster. Come on, putting crap in bags is not a job you have to go to college for 4 years. Is there no common sense at all anymore? OMG, when I got out to my car I had to repack everything. This woman didn't look stupid or maybe she just didn't care. UGH! I think as children we all played with blocks and had to figure what shape went into what hole to fit. What is so difficult in packing groceries? Like items go together. Meat and cold items go together. Boxed, items (cereal, pasta, rice, oatmeal) go together. Produce goes together. Canned and glass items go together but not 150 lbs in one bag. Bread, chips, delicate items go together. Laundry and soap items go together.  Simple Simon could do this. UGH!

We don't have this, people putting groceries in your bag. We are always stressing ourselves to fill our bags while the cashier is still scanning articles. If I have the time, I pack it in a very organized way. But if the scanning goes fast and the next customer is waiting, I throw everything in in a less organized way. Feel really bad about that. Shopping is best when you are two, so that one person can pack and the other can pay. But when does that happen?

This is what I hate about grocery shopping here in Italy - I'm usually dealing with 2 kids, while both bagging and paying for my groceries all at the same time.  And then other people get grumpy when I'm not fast enough and there isn't room for their stuff.  I really miss grocery baggers in the US.

Well Hula Hoop,, I guess in your situation with 2 kids any bagger would be better than none just to get the stuff packed up. I usually end up reorganizing the stuff in my car. It drives me NUTS!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: soccerluvof4 on February 27, 2019, 03:39:05 AM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Some garbage trucks are divided on the back. The rest garbage goes left, the other goes right. Let's hope it was that. Ask a question to your provider or ask the local newspaper to check it.




This irritates the hell out of me too and While in our area we do have some trucks that do both most don't. What i have been watching though is that if there is any weather of any kind then for sure its just dumped in the same truck. I saw a special not that long ago that one of the biggest problems is all these plastic bags jam up the recycling machines. It makes sense and they showed video. You take a plastic bag and twist it up it becomes one piece of strong as rope type thing. Anyhow we seem to have gone backwards in the recycling in our area.


Another thing I am hating of late is I have had to deal with more snow this winter than probably the last 5 years in combined the body is just not built for it. Even with a snow blower.

The robocalls I am with everyone on. So many times to I get calls and it ends up not being a rule human though it sounds like it until you ask a question. Alot of these seem more job related.

I hate the fact I pay taxes for our good schools but yet they are always asking for us to donate and bring more stuff to school. Our teachers in my mind are underpaid and then they need to beg for stuff is ridiculous. This to me is just wrong. Where are our priorities when it comes to kids/Future.  This is an area if my taxes had to go up a few bucks then so be it.



Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on February 27, 2019, 08:23:46 AM
i know this thread is about things we hate, but there is a simple solution to the bagging problem.  i take my own bag and tell teh bagger 'i got it, thank you' and they usually are busy enough to find something else to do for 3 minutes while i bag the stuff.  also tell the checker to send me the heavy stuff first so it goes in the bottom, or place items on the counter in order i want to bag them.

as for the Looks from people behind me.. oh well!  i do my thing you do yours and frankly it's usually faster for me to bag than to wait for the checker to start bagging.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on February 27, 2019, 08:34:15 AM
the thing i HATE the most is when my spendy wife loads up the credit card with $2k worth of shit she wants without a thought about what that does to our finances.  i'm honestly so tired and beat down by her financial abuse that fighting is just pointless. 

i HATE the phrase 'happy wife, happy life'.  more like happy wife, broke life.

(we have an amazing almost 10yr old so anything other than staying married is out of the equation.)
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: GuitarStv on February 27, 2019, 08:39:03 AM
In Canada, nobody at a grocery store will bag your groceries.  It's expected that you will do it yourself with your own bags.  You can purchase plastic bags if you want though.  :P
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on February 27, 2019, 08:57:52 AM
i know this thread is about things we hate, but there is a simple solution to the bagging problem.  i take my own bag and tell teh bagger 'i got it, thank you' and they usually are busy enough to find something else to do for 3 minutes while i bag the stuff.  also tell the checker to send me the heavy stuff first so it goes in the bottom, or place items on the counter in order i want to bag them.

as for the Looks from people behind me.. oh well!  i do my thing you do yours and frankly it's usually faster for me to bag than to wait for the checker to start bagging.

Well, easier said than done. If you have a full cart and are unloading it onto the belt by the time you get the cart emptied the bagger has already bagged up half the order at least. I have nicely given some instruction on what to put in the bags but what I say goes to deaf ears. It is a minor gripe in life but I find it mind boggling that these people are hired to do this job and do it with no rhyme of reason on how they pack bags. I guess I just think in a more organized way.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on February 27, 2019, 09:35:46 AM
I've never had a problem with bagging my groceries. Since I walk or bike, I can only buy as much as I can carry anyway, so it's usually in a basket. I can generally unload while the person before me is paying, and I put heavy stuff first when possible. Then as they scan, I load up my backpack, and then my reusable bags, maybe pausing while I pay, then finish up. If there are baggers, they might help me, and if necessary I'll tell them to leave the heavy stuff for me to put in my backpack.
The part I hate about bagging groceries is using the self checkout, and having to put things on the sensors without bags, and then having to pack it up after. Waste of time all around. I prefer staffed checkouts, but sometimes the lines are so long and the self-checkouts are empty so I'll do that instead. Honestly you should get money off for using a self checkout, it saves them staffing costs and I'm doing their job for them.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Dabnasty on February 27, 2019, 10:01:16 AM
I've never had a problem with bagging my groceries. Since I walk or bike, I can only buy as much as I can carry anyway, so it's usually in a basket. I can generally unload while the person before me is paying, and I put heavy stuff first when possible. Then as they scan, I load up my backpack, and then my reusable bags, maybe pausing while I pay, then finish up. If there are baggers, they might help me, and if necessary I'll tell them to leave the heavy stuff for me to put in my backpack.
The part I hate about bagging groceries is using the self checkout, and having to put things on the sensors without bags, and then having to pack it up after. Waste of time all around. I prefer staffed checkouts, but sometimes the lines are so long and the self-checkouts are empty so I'll do that instead. Honestly you should get money off for using a self checkout, it saves them staffing costs and I'm doing their job for them.

Ha. Are you familiar with that awkward moment when the next person in line sees that you've just paid the machine and starts walking towards your station but you're not actually done yet? Sometimes they get right next to me and look confused because something other than the normal routine is happening.

Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: PoutineLover on February 27, 2019, 10:07:31 AM
Ha. Are you familiar with that awkward moment when the next person in line sees that you've just paid the machine and starts walking towards your station but you're not actually done yet? Sometimes they get right next to me and look confused because something other than the normal routine is happening.
Oh yeah, it happens sometimes. And I've done it too. Then you realize so you look for a free one, but it's too late because then the person behind you is already going there.. awkward all around. This is why I prefer old fashioned cashiers. Although then there's the problem of someone announcing "new cash is open!" and the people at the back of the line run there first. So rude!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: MDfive21 on February 27, 2019, 12:22:37 PM
i know this thread is about things we hate, but there is a simple solution to the bagging problem.  i take my own bag and tell teh bagger 'i got it, thank you' and they usually are busy enough to find something else to do for 3 minutes while i bag the stuff.  also tell the checker to send me the heavy stuff first so it goes in the bottom, or place items on the counter in order i want to bag them.

as for the Looks from people behind me.. oh well!  i do my thing you do yours and frankly it's usually faster for me to bag than to wait for the checker to start bagging.

Well, easier said than done. If you have a full cart and are unloading it onto the belt by the time you get the cart emptied the bagger has already bagged up half the order at least. I have nicely given some instruction on what to put in the bags but what I say goes to deaf ears. It is a minor gripe in life but I find it mind boggling that these people are hired to do this job and do it with no rhyme of reason on how they pack bags. I guess I just think in a more organized way.

excellent point.  i usually have one big bag of stuff and that's it.  we're fortunate to live near 4 grocery stores and never have to stock up on anything.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Roadrunner53 on February 27, 2019, 12:48:53 PM
When I shop I always get the bargains and stock up. I have a mini grocery store in my basement. I despise running out of anything. I could feed the entire neighborhood and not blink an eye! LOL!
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: soccerluvof4 on February 28, 2019, 02:29:28 AM
I've never had a problem with bagging my groceries. Since I walk or bike, I can only buy as much as I can carry anyway, so it's usually in a basket. I can generally unload while the person before me is paying, and I put heavy stuff first when possible. Then as they scan, I load up my backpack, and then my reusable bags, maybe pausing while I pay, then finish up. If there are baggers, they might help me, and if necessary I'll tell them to leave the heavy stuff for me to put in my backpack.
The part I hate about bagging groceries is using the self checkout, and having to put things on the sensors without bags, and then having to pack it up after. Waste of time all around. I prefer staffed checkouts, but sometimes the lines are so long and the self-checkouts are empty so I'll do that instead. Honestly you should get money off for using a self checkout, it saves them staffing costs and I'm doing their job for them.

Ha. Are you familiar with that awkward moment when the next person in line sees that you've just paid the machine and starts walking towards your station but you're not actually done yet? Sometimes they get right next to me and look confused because something other than the normal routine is happening.


That brings up another thing I hate, really just cant stand is when the person in front of me is paying by check and hasnt even filled out the store name yet until there whole purchase is done!

The store I mostly go to the Cashier usually bags but I always help them because I like to pack them heavy and the less bags the better. Plus I pretty much shop every morning its blocks away so we have less waste, save $ and less bags anyhow.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: JanetJackson on March 19, 2019, 12:16:04 PM
I've never had a problem with bagging my groceries. Since I walk or bike, I can only buy as much as I can carry anyway, so it's usually in a basket. I can generally unload while the person before me is paying, and I put heavy stuff first when possible. Then as they scan, I load up my backpack, and then my reusable bags, maybe pausing while I pay, then finish up. If there are baggers, they might help me, and if necessary I'll tell them to leave the heavy stuff for me to put in my backpack.
The part I hate about bagging groceries is using the self checkout, and having to put things on the sensors without bags, and then having to pack it up after. Waste of time all around. I prefer staffed checkouts, but sometimes the lines are so long and the self-checkouts are empty so I'll do that instead. Honestly you should get money off for using a self checkout, it saves them staffing costs and I'm doing their job for them.

Ha. Are you familiar with that awkward moment when the next person in line sees that you've just paid the machine and starts walking towards your station but you're not actually done yet? Sometimes they get right next to me and look confused because something other than the normal routine is happening.


That brings up another thing I hate, really just cant stand is when the person in front of me is paying by check and hasnt even filled out the store name yet until there whole purchase is done!

The store I mostly go to the Cashier usually bags but I always help them because I like to pack them heavy and the less bags the better. Plus I pretty much shop every morning its blocks away so we have less waste, save $ and less bags anyhow.


I gotta jump in as my "thing I hate" is sort of related.
I HATE WHEN THE PERSON BEHIND ME IN LINE IS ABSOLUTELY LOSING IT ABOUT HAVING TO WAIT... and trying to draw me into their anger.  For whatever reason, this happens to me all the time.  There will be some kind of SLIGHT delay... I mean, I am not talking a 30 minute wait at an upscale grocery store where in theory you are paying more for better service... I am talking about the Dollar Tree, the salvage grocery store, places like that.
Inevitably, I get into line and there's an elderly or a person perhaps with a disability a few people ahead of us and it's slowing the line down.  Or there's a person getting balloons and we are waiting for them to pick them out.
The person behind be starts shifting around a lot, then they start sighing really loud, then eventually they mutter a few things about how they need to open another register - all while progressively trying to make eye contact with me, or engage me verbally to complain with them.
NO.  I do not want to complain.  I don't want to ride on the misery bus with you.  I have my own misery bus that I ride at different times and I just refuse to add to it.  NO.

I genuinely do not know the situation of the person behind me, perhaps they have a medical condition and need to get out of the store as soon as possible- perhaps they have a dependent who is waiting for them to be picked up from school/daycare/whatever, I am sure I am having a blind-spot here.
BUT... if waiting in a line is the worst part of your entire day, that's a pretty ok day... ya know?


Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: jinga nation on March 19, 2019, 12:29:16 PM
We're on the do not call list but it doesn't stop 'em all. It's gotten to the point where we now totally waste their time with bs. Fun things we've done with telemarketers:

- tell the "car warranty" people that we have 587,000 miles on our car from a few trips to Alaska and every minute detail about it until they get bored and hang up
- fart really loudly into the phone
- pretend to have sex
- keep them on the line acting as if we are interested and then give them bogus cc info or an address laden with vulgarities
- start singing the chorus of "I will always love you" incredibly loud
- answer in a different language, sometimes mixing a few different ones
- stay on the line and refer to yourself exclusively in the third person

It's quite fun coming up with new ideas actually, I think I might tell them my husband is dead next time they call.
There are some good videos on YT of reverse-scamming to waste scammers' time, e.g. this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPHgb9UaHsM) (guy pretends to be grandmother/granddaughter duo; he has spent up to 4 hours on one call in another video), or even more clinical analysis after hacking into a scammer's operations, e.g. this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5X9ZSXb7xI). I didn't know how these kind of scams even worked until watching videos of this sort.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq1uiinNM_Y
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: John Galt incarnate! on March 19, 2019, 12:58:33 PM


We don't have this, people putting groceries in your bag. We are always stressing ourselves to fill our bags while the cashier is still scanning articles. If I have the time, I pack it in a very organized way. But if the scanning goes fast and the next customer is waiting, I throw everything in in a less organized way. Feel really bad about that. Shopping is best when you are two, so that one person can pack and the other can pay. But when does that happen?

I don't use bags.

I use a cardboard box from the produce aisle and load it as the cashier scans each item.

One  box is easier to carry than multiple bags.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: John Galt incarnate! on March 19, 2019, 01:04:54 PM
[quote author=soccerluvof4 link=topic=96854.msg2308960#msg2308960 .

That brings up another thing I hate, really just cant stand is when the person in front of me is paying by check and hasnt even filled out the store name yet until there whole purchase is done!


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Yeah.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: calimom on March 20, 2019, 06:33:10 PM
At the grocery store I hate it when the person in front of me is yakking away on their cell phone and acts like it's some big inconvenience when they ultimately have to drag their credit card and pay. The nerve of the cashier for interrupting their Very Important Call!

When I shop at WINCO you have to bag up your own stuff. At the more mainstream store I go to, they hire developmentally disabled adults to bag up the purchases. I try to be kind and so long as they don't put cans or jars on top of the more fragile stuff I'm good. These people are just doing their best.
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: Jouer on March 21, 2019, 08:49:55 AM
Quote
[quote author=soccerluvof4 link=topic=96854.msg2308960#msg2308960 .

That brings up another thing I hate, really just cant stand is when the person in front of me is paying by check and hasnt even filled out the store name yet until there whole purchase is done!



Yeah.

Wait. When do you live?
Title: Re: Things you hate
Post by: sequoia on March 26, 2019, 04:32:32 PM
Okay, today is my garbage and recycle pick up day. I just watched the garbage truck put all the garbage AND recyclables into one truck and comingled it all! Why am I sorting out this frigging crap when they chuck it all into one truck. This really irks me! Now if I had comingled it all they probably would have refused to pick up my crap!

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Apparently China and other countries are tired of low quality recycling ( really just garbage) dumped on them.  Smaller communities are now just chucking everything.

I remember at work the same happened.


I have seen this before but they went back to normal pick up where they had separate trucks pick it up. Sometimes I think they are short handed and just say screw it and just use one truck. I did hear about the China thing and this has got to be a disaster on what to do with all this plastic, cans and newspapers. What are they doing with all the soda cans that we recycle?

A while back we decided to bring metals into the local recycler who takes all kind of metal, including soda cans, food cans, etc. We usually make 1 trip/6 months. We only get ~$15 per trip. The little extra cash is great, but it is not about the money. We just want to make sure these metals get recycled. We also bring plastic bags to local grocery store.

At the grocery store I hate it when the person in front of me is yakking away on their cell phone and acts like it's some big inconvenience when they ultimately have to drag their credit card and pay. The nerve of the cashier for interrupting their Very Important Call!

I have always want a little device that can block/jam cell signals. See someone being loud and ignorant while talking on the phone, turn this device and kill his cell signal for a bit. See someone who cut you off because they are on the phone, maybe this person should not be on the phone... See someone who keep talking loudly on phone while watching little kids practice, yeah time to stop talking :)

Maybe illegal but that would be very useful to have...