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Re: The tent of assholes has appeared again . . .
« Reply #50 on: November 24, 2022, 08:41:36 AM »
I would call 911 and say there’s a fight every time they play the music past 10 until you can get someone in charge to take action.

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Re: The tent of assholes has appeared again . . .
« Reply #51 on: November 24, 2022, 08:45:22 AM »
The wedding celebrations appear to be over now.  On Sunday they had a lot of people over and two food trucks.  Cars blocked access to our whole court, so I called the fire department who sent someone out and ticketed about 70 - 80 vehicles, which also ended up shutting down the music.

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« Reply #52 on: November 24, 2022, 08:53:35 AM »
Yay for the fire department. Sometimes it’s the risk for obstruction to exits or for emergency vehicles that gets the attention you need. So glad this option worked!

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« Reply #53 on: November 24, 2022, 09:08:13 AM »
My next thought is to maybe buy a decibel meter and take photos to submit as evidence so that someone will take it more seriously and not just assume I'm being a little whiny. But I hate to waste money if they'll end up ignoring me anyway.

I have a high quality decibel meter (use it to set up equipment for live shows) and have taken readings.  It was peaking at about 110 dB in my back yard in the summer when I was having my call bounced between the city and police department.  Last I checked, the city rule required under 80 dB in residential areas - but it's all theoretical since adherence depends on the honour system.



Nobody cared at all.

I'm sorry to hear that peace, order, and good government is dead in Toronto.

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Re: The tent of assholes has appeared again . . .
« Reply #54 on: November 24, 2022, 05:04:02 PM »
The wedding celebrations appear to be over now.  On Sunday they had a lot of people over and two food trucks.  Cars blocked access to our whole court, so I called the fire department who sent someone out and ticketed about 70 - 80 vehicles, which also ended up shutting down the music.

Nice.

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« Reply #55 on: November 24, 2022, 05:31:17 PM »
Fuck yeah.

Shut them down.

You're describing a personal hell of mine so good to see when even a little win happens.

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« Reply #56 on: November 25, 2022, 07:14:02 AM »
Bad neighbors can quickly ruin your quality of life. Sorry to hear this happened to you and I hope you and the good neighbors can prevail if it happens again. 

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Re: The tent of assholes has appeared again . . .
« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2022, 09:10:26 AM »
I get that there are probably some cultural differences, but it's really hard for me to imagine this behaviour being welcome in any society.

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« Reply #58 on: November 25, 2022, 10:45:43 AM »
I get that there are probably some cultural differences, but it's really hard for me to imagine this behaviour being welcome in any society.
It works just fine as long as all your neighbours are of the same culture and are invited to the party.  (See also student halls of residence.)

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« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2022, 12:30:31 PM »
If you really believe maybe this may be a cultural misunderstanding, perhaps leave an anonymous note explaining the city noise ordinance (in basic terms) and asking them to please be a good neighbor and refrain from excessively loud parties and parties after quiet hours.  Maybe they won't care, but if it is truly just a case of not understanding the cultural (and legal) expectations, it might help.  I don't see how if could hurt. 

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« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2022, 01:10:40 PM »
If you really believe maybe this may be a cultural misunderstanding, perhaps leave an anonymous note explaining the city noise ordinance (in basic terms) and asking them to please be a good neighbor and refrain from excessively loud parties and parties after quiet hours.  Maybe they won't care, but if it is truly just a case of not understanding the cultural (and legal) expectations, it might help.  I don't see how if could hurt.
In other circumstances I would agree, but probably not immediately after shutting their party and getting 70 to 80 cars ticketed.  There may be a better opportunity for outreach when things have settled back down.

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« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2022, 11:33:57 AM »
If you really believe maybe this may be a cultural misunderstanding, perhaps leave an anonymous note explaining the city noise ordinance (in basic terms) and asking them to please be a good neighbor and refrain from excessively loud parties and parties after quiet hours.  Maybe they won't care, but if it is truly just a case of not understanding the cultural (and legal) expectations, it might help.  I don't see how if could hurt.
In other circumstances I would agree, but probably not immediately after shutting their party and getting 70 to 80 cars ticketed.  There may be a better opportunity for outreach when things have settled back down.
Seems to me the offenders just received 70-80 such notes, courtesy of the city.

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« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2022, 02:30:49 PM »
If you really believe maybe this may be a cultural misunderstanding, perhaps leave an anonymous note explaining the city noise ordinance (in basic terms) and asking them to please be a good neighbor and refrain from excessively loud parties and parties after quiet hours.  Maybe they won't care, but if it is truly just a case of not understanding the cultural (and legal) expectations, it might help.  I don't see how if could hurt.
In other circumstances I would agree, but probably not immediately after shutting their party and getting 70 to 80 cars ticketed.  There may be a better opportunity for outreach when things have settled back down.

They got notes about parking violations, not noise ordinances. 
Seems to me the offenders just received 70-80 such notes, courtesy of the city.

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« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2022, 03:25:09 PM »
What a creative solution! Just keep calling the fire department every time this happens. Eventually the neighbors will learn. And it’s worth it to the department because they can make a lot of money in fines on one call.

It’s also winter in Toronto, so highly unlikely that people will take public transportation to avoid driving just to continue partying in this particular neighborhood. Hopefully they will move their their partying elsewhere.

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« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2022, 11:38:20 PM »
If you really believe maybe this may be a cultural misunderstanding, perhaps leave an anonymous note explaining the city noise ordinance (in basic terms) and asking them to please be a good neighbor and refrain from excessively loud parties and parties after quiet hours.  Maybe they won't care, but if it is truly just a case of not understanding the cultural (and legal) expectations, it might help.  I don't see how if could hurt.
In other circumstances I would agree, but probably not immediately after shutting their party and getting 70 to 80 cars ticketed.  There may be a better opportunity for outreach when things have settled back down.
 
Seems to me the offenders just received 70-80 such notes, courtesy of the city.
They got notes about parking violations, not noise ordinances.
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Yeah, I get that. What I actually disagreed with was the "anonymous letter" part. Having no wish to be confrontational, I reached into the humor arsenal.

The offenders have received communication from the city. If the parking violations are not enough for them to get the message, then GS could go to the city, reference the prior parking violations and explain that the noise problem is recurring. This is more likely to have an impact than an anonymous letter, IMO.

You have a different opinion and no one's saying you're wrong.

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« Reply #65 on: November 28, 2022, 07:37:13 AM »
If you really believe maybe this may be a cultural misunderstanding, perhaps leave an anonymous note explaining the city noise ordinance (in basic terms) and asking them to please be a good neighbor and refrain from excessively loud parties and parties after quiet hours.  Maybe they won't care, but if it is truly just a case of not understanding the cultural (and legal) expectations, it might help.  I don't see how if could hurt.
In other circumstances I would agree, but probably not immediately after shutting their party and getting 70 to 80 cars ticketed.  There may be a better opportunity for outreach when things have settled back down.
 
Seems to me the offenders just received 70-80 such notes, courtesy of the city.
They got notes about parking violations, not noise ordinances.
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Yeah, I get that. What I actually disagreed with was the "anonymous letter" part. Having no wish to be confrontational, I reached into the humor arsenal.

The offenders have received communication from the city. If the parking violations are not enough for them to get the message, then GS could go to the city, reference the prior parking violations and explain that the noise problem is recurring. This is more likely to have an impact than an anonymous letter, IMO.

You have a different opinion and no one's saying you're wrong.

Ah, got it!  Sorry for the misunderstanding.

I do think an anonymous letter is unlikely to work, but I think it's worth a try since it really costs nothing.  Mostly, that post was in response to the tangent that perhaps this is just a cultural misunderstanding. 

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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2022, 09:15:38 AM »
Are there parks or venues which allow loud late partying like this? Wedding halls and zoning exist for this very reason.

I agree, somebody (like the municipality) needs to flyer the neighborhood with information about the noise ordinances, and also advise that the neighbors explore venues in zones allowed to hold such celebrations.

They should also investigate the business that does this and require that they operate in a better way.

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« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2022, 12:16:56 PM »
Are there parks or venues which allow loud late partying like this? Wedding halls and zoning exist for this very reason.

I agree, somebody (like the municipality) needs to flyer the neighborhood with information about the noise ordinances, and also advise that the neighbors explore venues in zones allowed to hold such celebrations.

They should also investigate the business that does this and require that they operate in a better way.

This is an excellent idea.  It may be pointed and obvious why this is being done, but also proactive, educational and helpful, e.g., if the town councillor or whoever publishes it provides information about venues better suited, other alternatives, as well as of course the basic laws.  While ignorance of the law is no excuse, it's still a good idea for elected leaders and enforcers of such laws to take every opportunity they can to do proactive education that makes it easier on their constituents to avoid problems and plan events that comply from the beginning.

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« Reply #68 on: December 04, 2022, 09:39:07 PM »
I get that there are probably some cultural differences, but it's really hard for me to imagine this behaviour being welcome in any society.

I'm Indian, and if they are Indian I can confirm it's unacceptable in my culture, too. Unless you invite the entire village and dish out free food for everyone! There's no misunderstanding - most Indians in Canada (esp Toronto) are 2nd or 3rd generation. Sounds like they're throwing a wedding and too poor (or too cheap, depending on your neighborhood's socioeconomic status) to do that. I'd go after the business since that seems to be the common link. Unfortunately it seems like your city is not interested in dealing with it, so some civil case would be needed. Sorry, man!
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« Reply #69 on: December 12, 2022, 07:40:40 AM »
Hire someone to deliver a truck load of manure to their driveway, right in front of the tent.

Put a fresh fish in a few of the speakers. Tape one under any tables as well.

Wire cutters.

Look how this turned out in the classic Norm McDonald movie "Dirty Work"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG9EDE_bnws

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« Reply #70 on: December 12, 2022, 10:51:13 AM »
When I read your first post I kept thinking of Xexi Li.  The cause of the annoyance is different but the result to the neighbourhood is the same.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/zexi-li-ottawa-injunction-trucker-protest-convoy-1.6344503

 

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