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But what if Trump Loses?
« on: March 18, 2024, 11:04:13 AM »
Forgive if this is too off-off topic, but I truly am curious.  Not starting a fight.

People seem to talk a lot about Trump winning the election and walking away from all his legal woes and becoming a tyrant - but what they don't talk much about, which I find more interesting is: What happens when he loses?

Things probably for sure will happen: He will claim voter fraud and cheating. He will also be forced to go through all this court cases which could go on for years. He will probably have to spend his own money for legal fees (and not GOP money), and the GOP will probably want to drop him because he's toxic and causes them to lose elections. It's possible he might even actually go to jail for a bit.

So the more interesting question to me is: what do you think will happen after he loses?

I welcome your creative predictions.

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Re: But what if Trump Loses?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2024, 11:31:32 AM »
He is currently threatening a bloodbath and we know he has the followers willing to deliver. Hopefully they are as blatant as the first time, but taken much more seriously.

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Re: But what if Trump Loses?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2024, 12:04:02 PM »
He is currently threatening a bloodbath and we know he has the followers willing to deliver. Hopefully they are as blatant as the first time, but taken much more seriously.

I believe the quote is taken out of context, I think he was referring to a bloodbath in the auto industry. Which doesn't make any sense and is a stupid thing to say given the actual results under Biden for the auto industry, but hey that's Trump.

My take: Trump will do exactly what he did after 2020, spend the next 4 years losing lawsuits and whining about voter fraud. He'll declare he's running for president again as soon as the election is over so he can continue to grift the republican donor base while holding the party hostage and subject to his whims. With his companies dissolving and finally being addressed as fraud this is his only income stream. If he hasn't had a stroke and died by the 2028 primary he will either win the primary and get blown out by a younger dem candidate, or he will lose the primary and cry fraud about that splintering the republican party and ensuring dems win again in 2028 and that the republican party isn't competitive again in Presidential elections until 2032 against an incumbent, maybe even 2036.

Can Trump and election threads all get merged into one?

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Re: But what if Trump Loses?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2024, 12:12:46 PM »
Even if Trump loses, he and the people who follow and believe in his tactics (winning comes before anything, even the well being of the country) there is a lot of damage that needs to be undone. Our democracy is in a fragile state. The amount of legislation to suppress voting, to have bipartisan processes for certifying the vote as well as for redistricting, and the amount of dark money going into elections, is frightening. Beating Trump, is just the beginning.

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Re: But what if Trump Loses?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2024, 01:13:27 PM »
He is currently threatening a bloodbath and we know he has the followers willing to deliver. Hopefully they are as blatant as the first time, but taken much more seriously.

I believe the quote is taken out of context, I think he was referring to a bloodbath in the auto industry. Which doesn't make any sense and is a stupid thing to say given the actual results under Biden for the auto industry, but hey that's Trump.

The quote was definitely taken out of context.  but what are the actual results under Biden?  This was the first result under google  https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ALTSALES/   Summary is 17.28 million annual vehicles sales from 2017-2020 and 14.28 million from 2021-2023.   (That does include covid related years but 2023 was less than any Trump years). 
Or it may be more related to the pushing/requiring EVs.

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Re: But what if Trump Loses?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2024, 01:14:12 PM »
It's too early to tell but...

The RNC may be a husk after he drains it of money and runs off the talent. As sixwings wrote, this will make the Republicans a non-factor for a few elections; the GOP could also splinter and a new, more sane, conservative party could emerge.

He still has hardcore followers who currently sit in a circle jerk and make each other foaming angry. If only a small part of them decide to be violent, we could see some state governments under attack when the electors are chosen. The feds won't be fooled twice unless there are traitors in the midst (and there probably are).

I do think he's on the path to dementia at this point, and his empire is crumbling. None of his sons or daughters have his gift for convincing people. He'll ultimately become a footnote in American history: "When America should've been paying more attention to global warming, they were instead worried about a populist leader who had convinced himself that he had never lost or could never lose."

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Re: But what if Trump Loses?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2024, 02:36:10 PM »
He is currently threatening a bloodbath and we know he has the followers willing to deliver. Hopefully they are as blatant as the first time, but taken much more seriously.

I believe the quote is taken out of context, I think he was referring to a bloodbath in the auto industry. Which doesn't make any sense and is a stupid thing to say given the actual results under Biden for the auto industry, but hey that's Trump.


The quote was definitely taken out of context.  BUT...Jen Psaki did a great number on putting it in ALL of its context.  Republicans want to put the statement into context of the one sentence or one paragraph, but she put it into context of the entire speech (in which he started out saluting the "hostages" and heroes of January 6).  She expanded that to all of his prior actions and comments when he was taken out of context, but then did exactly what he said. 

I'm having a hard time lately with the media, because there is enough terrible stuff about trump to never want him to breathe another breath, without media misrepresenting comments, which when fact-checked, makes it look like they're in the wrong. 

 

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