He only wants to give that big "FY" to those entering illegally, and I am ok with that. Especially seeing the next few massive waves coming. I disagree that that anyone that can walk here should be allowed in. No US President has ever allowed that and I find it ridiculous that President Trump should be expected to...
Yet another strawman. No one ever said that we should have an open border, that's just the Republican Party's dishonest propagandistic representation of Democrats. Always has been, and it's obvious to anyone with any sense.
How about not intentionally tearing families apart with no intention of reuniting them as a "disincentive to others"? How about having a reasonable asylum program instead of just rejecting everyone and giving them a big fat "Fuck You, go die!"? How about not demanding that we slash legal immigration?
Those not entering at legally established points of entry, are entering illegally. FACT, not fallacy.
Fact: Illegal border hopping is a misdemeanor. A minor wrongdoing. Like Jaywalking. Tearing your children away from you is a disproportionate response.
Fact: Before Trump changed the rules out from under people, it was common practice to
first safely cross the boarder and
then surrender at a Port of Entry and apply for asylum. And then families would stay together as they await the asylum decision (cue Republicans complaining about "catch and release").
Fact: The thing that changed was that Trump instituted a "
Zero Tolerance Policy" to immediately arrest, imprison (and therefore separate the children), convict, and deport anyone suspected of misdemeanor border hopping.
Families were deported and separated under Obama (cue OMG whataboutism.....)
Yes, Obama did deport people when it made sense which included separating some families. But you're acting like the "Zero Tolerance Policy" never even happened, or that we don't know video interviews before it even happened from Trump's
DHS Secretary Kelly and the
long timeline of events leading up to the "Zero Tolerance Policy" that it was planned and intentional (and cruel) as a deterrent to misdemeanor border-hoppers.
By the way, the actual factual
numbers on illegal border crossings are that we're on a several-decades long downtrend and approaching numbers so low that they haven't been seen since the 70s. There was no "crisis" in 2018 that prompted the Trump Administration's severe response. Except of course that 2018's numbers were shaping up to be higher than 2017's, and you can't have a tough-on-immigration president looking weak in an election year, can you?
but Obama had more to do with the establishment of the DACA which the courts stopped Trump from fixing.
Oh, pretty please, educate me. How on earth was Trump going to "fix" DACA but then stopped by the courts? I remember a lot about Trump explicitly declaring that he wanted to
"end" DACA (without having any plan for replacement), and then trying to use the fates of innocent children as a
bargaining chip a few times, but I don't remember anything about him wanting to fix anything. Unless of course by "fix" you really mean "end".
Your hurt feelings and un-warranted anger, and need to lash out means you cannot have an adult discussion. A strawman, is an invalid argument with a logical fallacy. Look it up, it is not a term to describe something said that hurts your feelings.
Lol, and where exactly was I "lashing out though hurt feelings"? Specifically, a Strawman is a logical fallacy where you misrepresent what the other person was saying in order to attack the easier-to-attack misrepresentation instead of the actual argument. You know, like exactly what you were doing.