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« Reply #1200 on: March 09, 2018, 06:43:01 PM »
My male acquaintances from Hillbilly Mountain like Trump even more because of the Stormy Daniels affair. They all wish they could have hooked up with a porn star. Don't expect the "scandal" to do anything to Trump's support.

This. I realized that GOP men were ridiculous hypocrites after I spent too many conversations with them back in '08 when I realized they all really just seemed to think if they voted for Sarah Palin she would fuck them. For real.

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« Reply #1201 on: March 09, 2018, 10:24:20 PM »
My male acquaintances from Hillbilly Mountain like Trump even more because of the Stormy Daniels affair. They all wish they could have hooked up with a porn star. Don't expect the "scandal" to do anything to Trump's support.

This. I realized that GOP men were ridiculous hypocrites after I spent too many conversations with them back in '08 when I realized they all really just seemed to think if they voted for Sarah Palin she would fuck them. For real.

Trump's supporters have a word they like to throw around to insult people they disagree with and that word is "cuck", which is short for "cuckold" and describes a man with a fetish for watching another man have sex with his partner. It should be fairly obvious from the Stormy Daniels situation who the real "cucks" are. It's the pathetic creatures living vicariously through Donald Trump.

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« Reply #1202 on: March 10, 2018, 01:14:52 AM »
North Korea is probably very happy to meet and try to make a deal with this president. They are thinking this guy can not even make a deal with porn star, we definitely can take advantage of him lmao...

How about we keep our nukes, and we give you the largest parade with tanks and rockets? Deal?

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« Reply #1203 on: March 10, 2018, 05:05:15 PM »
My male acquaintances from Hillbilly Mountain like Trump even more because of the Stormy Daniels affair. They all wish they could have hooked up with a porn star. Don't expect the "scandal" to do anything to Trump's support.

This. I realized that GOP men were ridiculous hypocrites after I spent too many conversations with them back in '08 when I realized they all really just seemed to think if they voted for Sarah Palin she would fuck them. For real.

Trump's supporters have a word they like to throw around to insult people they disagree with and that word is "cuck", which is short for "cuckold" and describes a man with a fetish for watching another man have sex with his partner. It should be fairly obvious from the Stormy Daniels situation who the real "cucks" are. It's the pathetic creatures living vicariously through Donald Trump.

This can't be true can it?   They admire Trump for paying Stormy Daniels to have sex with him? 

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« Reply #1204 on: March 10, 2018, 05:18:33 PM »
This can't be true can it?   They admire Trump for paying Stormy Daniels to have sex with him?
As Abraham Lincoln said, not everything one reads on the internet is true.

Out of the ~130 million voters in the 2016 election, one could no doubt find dozens or even hundreds or thousands of "wacko" (for various reasons in the eyes of various beholders) folks who voted for either candidate.

The vast majority cast their vote for reasonable reasons - of course, reasonable people can and do disagree....


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« Reply #1205 on: March 11, 2018, 06:26:58 AM »
Did anyone listen to his latest rally speech in PA yesterday? OMG, Puke, Puke, Puke. But all his followers were chanting and cheering! Almost made me cry we have such an ignorant boob for a President. He was calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas again and other ugly crap came out of his mouth. He was banging his chest like a gorilla and telling everyone how wonderful he is and what wonderful things he has done. He must have taken lessons from P. T. Barnum, AKA HUCKSTER.

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« Reply #1206 on: March 11, 2018, 08:28:32 PM »
Any Trump supporter with enough cash can likely hire Stormy for anything the Trump supporter can dream up. No need to admire Trump's grlfriends from afar.

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« Reply #1207 on: March 12, 2018, 07:58:04 AM »
Did anyone listen to his latest rally speech in PA yesterday? OMG, Puke, Puke, Puke. But all his followers were chanting and cheering! Almost made me cry we have such an ignorant boob for a President. He was calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas again and other ugly crap came out of his mouth. He was banging his chest like a gorilla and telling everyone how wonderful he is and what wonderful things he has done. He must have taken lessons from P. T. Barnum, AKA HUCKSTER.

Trump and his followers (including many on this board) get absolute hard-ons at how miserable listening to him makes you.  Don't give them the satisfaction, I say.

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« Reply #1208 on: March 12, 2018, 08:35:08 AM »
Did anyone listen to his latest rally speech in PA yesterday? OMG, Puke, Puke, Puke. But all his followers were chanting and cheering! Almost made me cry we have such an ignorant boob for a President. He was calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas again and other ugly crap came out of his mouth. He was banging his chest like a gorilla and telling everyone how wonderful he is and what wonderful things he has done. He must have taken lessons from P. T. Barnum, AKA HUCKSTER.

Trump and his followers (including many on this board) get absolute hard-ons at how miserable listening to him makes you.  Don't give them the satisfaction, I say.

+1 Schadenfreude

I didn't even know he had another campaign style rally. March Madness is here ( :

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Re: So Let's Speculate about the Future of a Full Trump Presidency...
« Reply #1209 on: March 12, 2018, 09:58:12 AM »
I'm curious to see how things play out for Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen. There is, apparently, a strong case for his disbarment and prosecution based on how the Stormy Daniels payout was orchestrated.

https://minnlawyer.com/2018/03/05/the-ethical-problems-of-trumps-attorney/

A parallel payout is what led to the 2011 indictment of John Edwards. In short, if the payout to a mistress is a coverup and tied to the campaign (keep her quiet until after election, for example), then it is subject to campaign finance laws.

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« Reply #1210 on: March 12, 2018, 11:10:20 AM »
I just hope the Stormy Daniels story has a happy ending.

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« Reply #1211 on: March 12, 2018, 11:20:36 AM »
I just hope the Stormy Daniels story has a happy ending.

It wouldn't matter.  She could whip out a blue dress and evangelicals would just shrug.  "Oh, the president shot his load on a porn star?  Well that's fine, because I'm not forbidden from saying Merry Christmas anymore, and that's what Jesus expects from us."

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« Reply #1212 on: March 12, 2018, 11:36:12 AM »
Sorry, I should have put in a joke tag.  A "happy ending" is a euphemism. 

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« Reply #1213 on: March 12, 2018, 11:39:19 AM »
Sorry, I should have put in a joke tag.  A "happy ending" is a euphemism.

Yea I got it.  The kind that ends up on a blue dress.

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« Reply #1214 on: March 12, 2018, 11:48:13 AM »
I just hope the Stormy Daniels story has a happy ending.

It wouldn't matter.  She could whip out a blue dress and evangelicals would just shrug.  "Oh, the president shot his load on a porn star?  Well that's fine, because I'm not forbidden from saying Merry Christmas anymore, and that's what Jesus expects from us."
Does the evangelical view change depending on whether or not Ms Daniels was paid at the time?

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« Reply #1215 on: March 12, 2018, 11:50:25 AM »
I just hope the Stormy Daniels story has a happy ending.

It wouldn't matter.  She could whip out a blue dress and evangelicals would just shrug.  "Oh, the president shot his load on a porn star?  Well that's fine, because I'm not forbidden from saying Merry Christmas anymore, and that's what Jesus expects from us."
Does the evangelical view change depending on whether or not Ms Daniels was paid at the time?

Easy question to answer.  Did Evangelicals have a problem with Clinton?  Pretty much the same situation . . . but no money paid.

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« Reply #1216 on: March 12, 2018, 12:22:40 PM »
I'm curious to see how things play out for Trump's attorney, Michael Cohen. There is, apparently, a strong case for his disbarment and prosecution based on how the Stormy Daniels payout was orchestrated.

I'm "curious" too, but not very hopeful that justice will be served.  Seemingly everything about this administration is obviously illegal.  Security clearances?  Who needs 'em.  Nepotism laws? We don't enforce those anymore.  Muslim ban?  That's not racist.  Emoluments?  Those are fine now.  Obstruction of justice?  Just obstruct the investigation into obstruction!

Mike Cohen broke the law, plain as day, just like Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort and Carter Page.  Their crimes were publicly reported and admitted early on, but none of it matters.  You may have noticed that we're not exactly big on law and order these days, campaign rhetoric to the contrary.

Have you noticed that nobody in the administration is using white house emails?  It's just private email servers as far as the eye can see.  Remember how outrageous it was when Hillary tried that for six months before switching?

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« Reply #1217 on: March 12, 2018, 01:12:13 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.

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« Reply #1218 on: March 12, 2018, 01:35:31 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.
I believe the $139k was for new doors for Interior Secretary Zinke's office. Carsons dining set was more like $30k, IIRC. Keep those scandals straight!

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« Reply #1219 on: March 12, 2018, 01:46:37 PM »
Emoluments?

Word of the day for me.  Thanks Sol!

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« Reply #1220 on: March 12, 2018, 03:40:16 PM »
And won't it be entertaining to watch conservative folks suddenly decide that the Dems are breaking ALL the laws once the Dems are in control again.

Benghazi!!! Missing emails!!! Marital infidelity!!!

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« Reply #1221 on: March 12, 2018, 03:47:10 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.

Who could they possibly find to play Fake Donald Trump?   The mind boggles...

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« Reply #1222 on: March 12, 2018, 04:09:46 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.
I believe the $139k was for new doors for Interior Secretary Zinke's office. Carsons dining set was more like $30k, IIRC. Keep those scandals straight!

Yes, sorry, my numbers were mixed up! Thanks for setting me straight!

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« Reply #1223 on: March 12, 2018, 04:16:29 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.
I believe the $139k was for new doors for Interior Secretary Zinke's office. Carsons dining set was more like $30k, IIRC. Keep those scandals straight!

Yes, sorry, my numbers were mixed up! Thanks for setting me straight!

This list is 5 or 6 weeks old, so already pretty hopelessly out of date (right!?), but still a useful reference:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opinion/trumps-scandals-a-list.html

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« Reply #1224 on: March 12, 2018, 04:58:54 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.

I have said this before... this is much better than Game of Thrones !

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« Reply #1225 on: March 12, 2018, 05:20:26 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.

I have said this before... this is much better than Game of Thrones !

We certainly know who Joffrey is in this version.

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« Reply #1226 on: March 12, 2018, 05:25:03 PM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.

I have said this before... this is much better than Game of Thrones !

We certainly know who Joffrey is in this version.

+ 1

I just saw this... While this has nothing to do with the president, he did hire her. Seriously, how do you keep your job when you do this...

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/12/politics/white-house-officials-alarmed-at-betsy-devos/index.html

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Re: So Let's Speculate about the Future of a Full Trump Presidency...
« Reply #1227 on: March 12, 2018, 10:30:36 PM »

I wouldn't worry too much about them, Kudlow and Ross have been doing great, also what's the guy's name from Bush admin that facilitated 2002 Steel Tariffs? I bet he had done quite well too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-12/larry-kudlow-said-to-emerge-as-trump-favorite-to-replace-cohn

Some of us really can tell the future, eh?

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« Reply #1228 on: March 13, 2018, 02:36:48 AM »
Did anyone listen to his latest rally speech in PA yesterday? OMG, Puke, Puke, Puke. But all his followers were chanting and cheering! Almost made me cry we have such an ignorant boob for a President. He was calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas again and other ugly crap came out of his mouth. He was banging his chest like a gorilla and telling everyone how wonderful he is and what wonderful things he has done. He must have taken lessons from P. T. Barnum, AKA HUCKSTER.

I am still gripped by the stupidity of his comments on President Xi of China, and not even the "President for Life" business.  Trump said he asked Xi why there wasn't a drug problem in China and that Xi said "the death penalty".  Apparently the useful idiot Trump doesn't realise that the illegal fentanyl being smuggled into the USA and killing Americans in such numbers is manufactured in China.  And that Xi has no geopolitical interest in shutting down that illegal manufacture which creates such great harm to the USA as long as he can do it with Trump's silent blessing.

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« Reply #1229 on: March 13, 2018, 05:28:32 AM »
Yes, Sol, nothing matters in the Trump administration. Price thought nothing of flying first class and racking up tons of moola. He acted so surprised at the whole thing. Mr. Sleepy Ben Carson was going to buy a dining room table for his office for something like $139K. Mnunchin and wife were flying around on government planes. Sanctions were supposed to be placed on Russia but Donnie decided not to.

When a movie is made of this presidency it will have to be a mini series that runs about 10 years long. Something happens every single day.

Who could they possibly find to play Fake Donald Trump?   The mind boggles...

OJ? Seems fitting.

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« Reply #1230 on: March 13, 2018, 10:23:49 AM »
Tillerson notified of firing by Tweet. Trump didn't even have the decency/spine to deliver his favorite catchphrase
Spoiler: show
"You're FIRED"
in person.
https://www.newsandguts.com/tillerson-learned-firing-trump-tweet/

What a friggin dumpster fire this administration is. Given the damage Tillerson (and Trump) have done to our diplomatic corp, I am very glad to see him go. This is a terrible way to do it, though.

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« Reply #1231 on: March 13, 2018, 11:02:59 AM »
Dumpster fire, yes indeed!

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« Reply #1232 on: March 13, 2018, 08:31:48 PM »
And now he wants to put that idiot Rick Perry in charge of the Department of Veterans Affairs, despite having zero experience in health care.  God help us.

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« Reply #1233 on: March 13, 2018, 08:45:40 PM »
And now he wants to put that idiot Rick Perry in charge of the Department of Veterans Affairs, despite having zero experience in health care.  God help us.

I’d rather have him there than running DoE.  Talk about going from the most qualified person pretty much ever (Moniz) to the least qualified person ever (Perry) to oversee the agency that is in charge of our Nation’s nuclear weapons program.  That actually does sometimes keep me up at night.

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Re: So Let's Speculate about the Future of a Full Trump Presidency...
« Reply #1234 on: March 14, 2018, 04:39:13 AM »
What will it take to stop this madman?

Whatever happened to the Stormy Daniels proposal to give back the $130,000 by noon yesterday. That story seemed to disappear all of a sudden!

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« Reply #1235 on: March 14, 2018, 06:36:13 AM »
What will it take to stop this madman?

Whatever happened to the Stormy Daniels proposal to give back the $130,000 by noon yesterday. That story seemed to disappear all of a sudden!

They probably gave her another $130k

She's just going to keep talking until she hits FIRE. Secret mustachian.

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Re: So Let's Speculate about the Future of a Full Trump Presidency...
« Reply #1236 on: March 14, 2018, 08:06:15 AM »
What will it take to stop this madman?

Whatever happened to the Stormy Daniels proposal to give back the $130,000 by noon yesterday. That story seemed to disappear all of a sudden!

They probably gave her another $130k

She's just going to keep talking until she hits FIRE. Secret mustachian.

Anyone willing to fuck Donald Trump worked very, very hard for the money.  I don't begrudge her anything she makes.

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Re: So Let's Speculate about the Future of a Full Trump Presidency...
« Reply #1237 on: March 14, 2018, 08:30:10 AM »
What will it take to stop this madman?

Whatever happened to the Stormy Daniels proposal to give back the $130,000 by noon yesterday. That story seemed to disappear all of a sudden!

They probably gave her another $130k

She's just going to keep talking until she hits FIRE. Secret mustachian.

Anyone willing to fuck Donald Trump worked very, very hard for the money.  I don't begrudge her anything she makes.

not to get too gross but think how many guys want to boink her now? not to many people in history get to do it with someone that did it with a sitting president. she's probably got a tattoo that says 'donald trump slept here'.

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« Reply #1238 on: March 14, 2018, 08:32:36 AM »
not to get too gross but think how many guys want to boink her now? not to many people in history get to do it with someone that did it with a sitting president. she's probably got a tattoo that says 'donald trump slept here'.

I think there's a hard split between the people more attracted to her vs. less. Not many in between.

Also, this: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gy893x/conservatives-are-whining-because-no-one-wants-to-date-them-vgtrn

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Re: So Let's Speculate about the Future of a Full Trump Presidency...
« Reply #1239 on: March 14, 2018, 08:46:00 AM »
Whatever happened to the Stormy Daniels proposal to give back the $130,000 by noon yesterday. That story seemed to disappear all of a sudden!

I think the Stormy offer is genius.  She claims the NDA is void because he didn't sign it, which is clearly a ploy.  If there was legitimately a problem with a contract that only one party signed, he could just sign it today and it would be immediately enforceable.  The only hard part would be enforcing it while claiming it doesn't exist.  He can't pursue legal action against her based on a NDA he can't admit exists without admitting he had her sign an NDA.

He has the same problem with the $130k.  What's he going to do, say "no I don't want my money back"?  Or maybe "Sure, give me my money and we can void our contract"?  Both of those are admissions of guilt.

Stormy taped an interview with 60 minutes.  They'll do the required fact-checking and then decide to run some version of it, I suspect.

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« Reply #1240 on: March 14, 2018, 08:55:20 AM »
not to get too gross but think how many guys want to boink her now? not to many people in history get to do it with someone that did it with a sitting president. she's probably got a tattoo that says 'donald trump slept here'.

I think there's a hard split between the people more attracted to her vs. less. Not many in between.

Also, this: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gy893x/conservatives-are-whining-because-no-one-wants-to-date-them-vgtrn

As the conservative white guys become a minority in the future I can't imagine this situation will get any better. I don't feel for them in the least. You get what you give.

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« Reply #1241 on: March 14, 2018, 08:57:30 AM »
not to get too gross but think how many guys want to boink her now? not to many people in history get to do it with someone that did it with a sitting president. she's probably got a tattoo that says 'donald trump slept here'.

I think there's a hard split between the people more attracted to her vs. less. Not many in between.

Also, this: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/gy893x/conservatives-are-whining-because-no-one-wants-to-date-them-vgtrn

As the conservative white guys become a minority in the future I can't imagine this situation will get any better. I don't feel for them in the least. You get what you give.

It's the free market solution to the problem of terrible people.

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« Reply #1242 on: March 14, 2018, 09:00:02 AM »
Its time for social/religious conservatism to split off from fiscal conservatism. PART of their platform is valid but the whole tamale sucks. Of course they preach fiscal responsibility but rarely demonstrate it in recent times...

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« Reply #1243 on: March 14, 2018, 09:00:35 AM »
It's the free market solution to the problem of terrible people.

This is a fucking brilliant quote.

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« Reply #1244 on: March 14, 2018, 09:09:45 AM »
And now he wants to put that idiot Rick Perry in charge of the Department of Veterans Affairs, despite having zero experience in health care.  God help us.

Yeah. I was glued to reading news last night, after hearing about Tillerson. Whom I'm not sad to see go. But it was still a shock. When was the last time a sitting Sec of State was fired? If ever?
The rumors is that Shulkin is the next one. The thing is, I work at the VA. I didn't know what to think of him at first. But while I don't agree with everything he does, he did show a willingness to dive in and learn about the VA, reach out to Veteran service organizations, listen to the vets. He even practices medicine at a VA. He's competent. I am as disappointed as everyone else about the travel scandal. But I think he is the best person, most knowlegeable person to head the VA right now. If Trump removes him, I don't think it has anything to do with the scandal, or "serving veterans". He and his lackeys want to privatize the VA, and they are willing to ride roughshod over anyone who doesn't go along with their plan. And install someone woefully ignorant and unqualified to lead a complex organization serving 9 million vets. It's endangering their care.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-trump-administration-goes-to-war-over-the-va
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« Reply #1245 on: March 14, 2018, 09:18:01 AM »
And now he wants to put that idiot Rick Perry in charge of the Department of Veterans Affairs, despite having zero experience in health care.  God help us.

Yeah. I was glued to reading news last night, after hearing about Tillerson. Whom I'm not sad to see go. But it was still a shock. When was the last time a sitting Sec of State was fired? If ever?
The rumors is that Shulkin is the next one. The thing is, I work at the VA. I didn't know what to think of him at first. But while I don't agree with everything he does, he did show a willingness to dive in and learn about the VA, reach out to Veteran service organizations, listen to the vets. He even practices medicine at a VA. He's competent. I am as disappointed as everyone else about the travel scandal. But I think he is the best person, most knowlegeable person to head the VA right now. If Trump removes him, I don't think it has anything to do with the scandal, or "serving veterans". He and his lackeys want to privatize the VA, and they are willing to ride roughshod over anyone who doesn't go along with their plan.

The thing about Tillerson is I feel totally conflicted.  On the one hand, he was obviously a terrible fit for that job, personality-wise (apparently he's INTENSELY introverted) and by training (had only ever worked at Exxon prior to this).  But at least he wasn't an insane war-monger.  Now we get Pompeo, who probably understands the job better, but is a tea party nutter who is likely itching to start a war with Iran.

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« Reply #1246 on: March 14, 2018, 09:37:56 AM »
Now we get Pompeo, who probably understands the job better, but is a tea party nutter who is likely itching to start a war with Iran.

Ah, Benghazi Pompeo.  He's received the most money from Koch Industries of any politician...ever.  $900k.

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« Reply #1247 on: March 14, 2018, 09:44:44 AM »
And now he wants to put that idiot Rick Perry in charge of the Department of Veterans Affairs, despite having zero experience in health care.  God help us.

Yeah. I was glued to reading news last night, after hearing about Tillerson. Whom I'm not sad to see go. But it was still a shock. When was the last time a sitting Sec of State was fired? If ever?
The rumors is that Shulkin is the next one. The thing is, I work at the VA. I didn't know what to think of him at first. But while I don't agree with everything he does, he did show a willingness to dive in and learn about the VA, reach out to Veteran service organizations, listen to the vets. He even practices medicine at a VA. He's competent. I am as disappointed as everyone else about the travel scandal. But I think he is the best person, most knowlegeable person to head the VA right now. If Trump removes him, I don't think it has anything to do with the scandal, or "serving veterans". He and his lackeys want to privatize the VA, and they are willing to ride roughshod over anyone who doesn't go along with their plan.

The thing about Tillerson is I feel totally conflicted.  On the one hand, he was obviously a terrible fit for that job, personality-wise (apparently he's INTENSELY introverted) and by training (had only ever worked at Exxon prior to this).  But at least he wasn't an insane war-monger.  Now we get Pompeo, who probably understands the job better, but is a tea party nutter who is likely itching to start a war with Iran.

Basically, lap-dog to billionaires gets replaced by lap-dog to billionaires.

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« Reply #1248 on: March 14, 2018, 10:09:33 AM »
News just said Donnie's lawyers didn't get back to Stormy or her lawyer on returning the $130K. They had till noon yesterday to respond. She has a lawsuit against Donnie and goes to court on July 12th.

Hope she wins!

Anyone see Jimmy Kimmel last night! LOL! They had a skit 'selling' collectible plates of all the people who worked for Donnie and are no longer there. Hahaha, they said you could get one a month! Hilarious!

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« Reply #1249 on: March 14, 2018, 04:36:10 PM »
The voters showed up for Pennsylvania's special election. In a US House district that went +20 for Trump, Lamb eked out a victory.

Quote from: 538
The number of votes Lamb received was 80 percent of the number of votes Clinton received in this district in 2016 — but Saccone got just 53 percent of the number of votes Trump got.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/pennsylvania-18-district-lamb-results/

Midterms often tilt away from the President's party but this will be Trump's legacy: a major shift from the President's party. Redistricting won't be able to save the Republicans in the House.