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« Reply #350 on: February 01, 2017, 08:43:38 PM »
ONE SENATOR AWAY FROM BLOCKING BETSY DEVOS. If you live in TN, PA, GA, UT, NC, WY, LA, KS, SC, or KY, please call your senators!
We flipped republican senators from ME and AK today, who in their public statements cited the overwhelming number of calls they've received from constituents as being the primary influence for their decision-making. Calling Works!!
Johnny Isakson (GA) 770.661.0999..&..202.224.3643
Orrin Hatch (UT) 801.524.4380..&..202.224.5251
Richard Burr (NC) 336.631.5125..&..202.224.3154..&.. 910.251.1058..&..828.350.2437
Michael Enzi (WY) 202.224.3424
Dr. Bill Cassidy (LA) 202.224.5824
Pat Roberts (KS) 202.224.4774
Tim Scott (SC) 202.224.6121
Rand Paul (KY) 202.224.4343

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« Reply #351 on: February 01, 2017, 08:59:01 PM »
Can just point out that if the feds allow public money to pay for religious schools, the Satanists will start opening schools left and right. And they would not want to fund teaching kids Satanism, now would they?

Just a thought.

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« Reply #352 on: February 01, 2017, 10:09:26 PM »
Haha, I was just coming here to post the DeVos stuff. Go team!

Being from Alaska and having a lot of friends who are teachers, you'd better believe I was getting on people's cases about contacting Murkowski. Teachers were literally crying at the thought of what would happen if she was confirmed, so it wasn't that hard.

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« Reply #353 on: February 01, 2017, 10:12:23 PM »
I'll be thrilled if DeVos is shitcanned. She is a disaster of a candidate. But from the perspective of our national future, I am less concerned about her than about Sessions, who seems pretty likely to make it through at this point.

This has got to be the least-qualified/most extreme cabinet in history.

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« Reply #354 on: February 01, 2017, 10:49:55 PM »
When posting phone numbers, it's helpful to include all the regional offices. DC offices are incredibly swamped. When I call my senators, I try DC last.

Is anyone able to gather that info for the DeVos senators?

Side note: someone should make a Devo/DeVos Whip It parody video. This is clearly higher priority.

Can just point out that if the feds allow public money to pay for religious schools, the Satanists will start opening schools left and right. And they would not want to fund teaching kids Satanism, now would they?

Or worse: what if they fund teaching kids ISLAM?

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« Reply #355 on: February 02, 2017, 06:10:02 AM »
ONE SENATOR AWAY FROM BLOCKING BETSY DEVOS. If you live in TN, PA, GA, UT, NC, WY, LA, KS, SC, or KY, please call your senators!
We flipped republican senators from ME and AK today, who in their public statements cited the overwhelming number of calls they've received from constituents as being the primary influence for their decision-making. Calling Works!!
Johnny Isakson (GA) 770.661.0999..&..202.224.3643
Orrin Hatch (UT) 801.524.4380..&..202.224.5251
Richard Burr (NC) 336.631.5125..&..202.224.3154..&.. 910.251.1058..&..828.350.2437
Michael Enzi (WY) 202.224.3424
Dr. Bill Cassidy (LA) 202.224.5824
Pat Roberts (KS) 202.224.4774
Tim Scott (SC) 202.224.6121
Rand Paul (KY) 202.224.4343

PA is my voting state, and just an FYI, our Republican Senator Pat Toomey, does not answer the phones, does not hold town hall or public events.  People that make it to his staff report they are rude and hang up on constituents (we still try though).  Our Dem Senator, Bob Casey has been a vocal opponent of most of the cabinet and a leading resistant voice (also answers the phones/letters and has a friendly staff.)

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #356 on: February 02, 2017, 07:20:15 AM »
ONE SENATOR AWAY FROM BLOCKING BETSY DEVOS. If you live in TN, PA, GA, UT, NC, WY, LA, KS, SC, or KY, please call your senators!
We flipped republican senators from ME and AK today, who in their public statements cited the overwhelming number of calls they've received from constituents as being the primary influence for their decision-making. Calling Works!!
Johnny Isakson (GA) 770.661.0999..&..202.224.3643
Orrin Hatch (UT) 801.524.4380..&..202.224.5251
Richard Burr (NC) 336.631.5125..&..202.224.3154..&.. 910.251.1058..&..828.350.2437
Michael Enzi (WY) 202.224.3424
Dr. Bill Cassidy (LA) 202.224.5824
Pat Roberts (KS) 202.224.4774
Tim Scott (SC) 202.224.6121
Rand Paul (KY) 202.224.4343

Adding in Thom Tillis (NC) (202) 224-6342..&..704-509-9087..&..(252) 329-0371..&..(919) 856-4630..&..(336) 885-0685

I called Burr and Tillis yesterday and the day before and will call again today. 

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« Reply #357 on: February 02, 2017, 07:34:34 AM »
Can just point out that if the feds allow public money to pay for religious schools, the Satanists will start opening schools left and right. And they would not want to fund teaching kids Satanism, now would they?

Just a thought.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster needs kids.  We need to bring the children to the light.  Right now they join so late in life.

I see that they are pulling out the bill to give away federal land (thank you hunters who called).  So I'll call my Rep to give positive feedback on that, and give support for the Oversight Committee to review possible conflicts of interest for Trump. 

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« Reply #358 on: February 02, 2017, 07:52:04 AM »
If you’re in North Carolina, call Roy Cooper, the new Democratic governor, and Josh Stein, the new Attorney General, to withdraw a petition for writ of certiorari pending at the Supreme Court to review the 4th Circuit’s decision striking down North Carolina’s discriminatory voting law.

Roy Cooper: (919) 814-2000
Josh Stein: 919-716-6400

Per UU, when you call, start off by saying you are a constituent and give your name, city and zip code.  Makes it easier for them to tally you.

This is hugely important for the protection of voting rights not just in NC but other areas using the decision as precedent.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/02/north_carolina_should_withdraw_its_petition_to_the_supreme_court_in_its.html
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #359 on: February 02, 2017, 08:23:24 AM »
If you’re in North Carolina, call Roy Cooper, the new Democratic governor, and Josh Stein, the new Attorney General, to withdraw a petition for writ of certiorari pending at the Supreme Court to review the 4th Circuit’s decision striking down North Carolina’s discriminatory voting law.

Roy Cooper: (919) 814-2000
Josh Stein: 919-716-6400

This is hugely important for the protection of voting rights not just in NC but other areas using the decision as precedent.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/02/north_carolina_should_withdraw_its_petition_to_the_supreme_court_in_its.html

Just called both and corrected the phone number for Josh Stein above.  The other number was his campaign office.  The very nice lady at AG Stein's office told me that I was one of the first calls she had received on this issue.  I'll post it on one of the NC groups on Facebook.  Just a tip - when you call, start off by saying you are a constituent and give your name, city and zip code.  Makes it easier for them to tally you. 

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« Reply #360 on: February 02, 2017, 08:33:15 AM »
Thank you, UU! I will correct my post.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #361 on: February 02, 2017, 09:24:55 AM »
ONE SENATOR AWAY FROM BLOCKING BETSY DEVOS. If you live in TN, PA, GA, UT, NC, WY, LA, KS, SC, or KY, please call your senators!
We flipped republican senators from ME and AK today, who in their public statements cited the overwhelming number of calls they've received from constituents as being the primary influence for their decision-making. Calling Works!!
Johnny Isakson (GA) 770.661.0999..&..202.224.3643
Orrin Hatch (UT) 801.524.4380..&..202.224.5251
Richard Burr (NC) 336.631.5125..&..202.224.3154..&.. 910.251.1058..&..828.350.2437
Michael Enzi (WY) 202.224.3424
Dr. Bill Cassidy (LA) 202.224.5824
Pat Roberts (KS) 202.224.4774
Tim Scott (SC) 202.224.6121
Rand Paul (KY) 202.224.4343

PA is my voting state, and just an FYI, our Republican Senator Pat Toomey, does not answer the phones, does not hold town hall or public events.  People that make it to his staff report they are rude and hang up on constituents (we still try though).  Our Dem Senator, Bob Casey has been a vocal opponent of most of the cabinet and a leading resistant voice (also answers the phones/letters and has a friendly staff.)
Have you tried faxing his office?  I don't know if it makes a difference, but it is a way to get through. 

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #362 on: February 02, 2017, 10:30:44 AM »
Is there an action to undo the outcome of press secretary Sean Spicer's illiteracy?

He is using the shooting in Quebec to justify Trump's orders, even though the shooter is presumed to be Canadian born and raised, nonMuslim, and targeted Muslim people. How the White House managed to twist that, I can't comprehend. (Except I know some people lie, etc.) A hashtag something??

He also believes "a majority of Americans" voted for Trump.

This is the kind of twistiness that breeds hate, and many people are going to assume Spicer is being honest. How to turn that around??

I don't think we have any way to address this, and I think most of us have concluded that we need to use our energy elsewhere. The country is polarized enough that the two sides are getting their news from entirely different sources, and working from completely different ideas of what the facts are. We tried all the way through the election to get through to the people who will believe Spicer, and utterly, completely, failed.

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« Reply #363 on: February 02, 2017, 10:39:30 AM »
Today I thought to myself, "I really sound like a tinfoil hat crazy person. I must be overreacting."

And then I review events. And I'm like, "I don't think so...."

But then, for instance, I learn that the Judicial Branch page is back on the whitehouse.gov site and I think, "um, okay, maybe I have been overreacting to things." (I thought it was suspicious that it was missing.)

And then I wonder whether we should buy a gun. Or store a shitload of cash in our home.

Ahhhhh!

Yes! Get a gun!

My political action for yesterday was to send a complimentary email to NPR for having Charlie Sykes host an evening show. I think it is in Tom Ashbrook's  slot. anyway, Charlie
Sykes is a "classical liberal" which he decribes as today's conservative.

I was shocked to hear him coming over the radio waves on the NPR dial and I had to check the radio setting twice to make sure I was on NPR!and not the nearby religious station.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #364 on: February 02, 2017, 10:52:48 AM »
Is there an action to undo the outcome of press secretary Sean Spicer's illiteracy?

He is using the shooting in Quebec to justify Trump's orders, even though the shooter is presumed to be Canadian born and raised, nonMuslim, and targeted Muslim people. How the White House managed to twist that, I can't comprehend. (Except I know some people lie, etc.) A hashtag something??

He also believes "a majority of Americans" voted for Trump.

This is the kind of twistiness that breeds hate, and many people are going to assume Spicer is being honest. How to turn that around??

#alternativefacts

But like cranberries said, that's not going to reach the people who believe it.

Try writing local op-eds? Or engaging with communities and discussing in churches, temples, etc? Not something Canadians can do, aside from encourage Americans to do it. Although you lot have your own future Trumps gunning for power...

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« Reply #365 on: February 02, 2017, 11:15:50 AM »

Not something Canadians can do, aside from encourage Americans to do it. Although you lot have your own future Trumps gunning for power...

Many of us here in the US are horrified that we thought things were generally going to be OK and then this happened. Getting engaged in building bridges across those cultural divides as well as supporting fact based education and fact based news coverage, etc, before you elect a fascist seems preferable to trying to oust one once he is in power. The type of work you (Joon) are advocating for seems really, really important in countries that are not as far down this slide as we in the US are. I highly recommend the book "Don't think of an Elephant" for learning to build those bridges.

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« Reply #366 on: February 02, 2017, 12:14:57 PM »
I went to a rally at town hall and brought flowers and croissants to the local mosque this afternoon.

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« Reply #367 on: February 02, 2017, 12:29:37 PM »
Does any one know of a fax number for Marco Rubio (FL-R)? All his lines are either busy when I call or are full voicemail boxes. I was able to get through to someone in Bill Nelson's Tallahassee office and they said he's going to vote against DeVos, I thanked them/him.
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« Reply #368 on: February 02, 2017, 12:40:40 PM »
Today I thought to myself, "I really sound like a tinfoil hat crazy person. I must be overreacting."

And then I review events. And I'm like, "I don't think so...."

But then, for instance, I learn that the Judicial Branch page is back on the whitehouse.gov site and I think, "um, okay, maybe I have been overreacting to things." (I thought it was suspicious that it was missing.)

And then I wonder whether we should buy a gun. Or store a shitload of cash in our home.

Ahhhhh!

Yes! Get a gun!

My political action for yesterday was to send a complimentary email to NPR for having Charlie Sykes host an evening show. I think it is in Tom Ashbrook's  slot. anyway, Charlie
Sykes is a "classical liberal" which he decribes as today's conservative.

I was shocked to hear him coming over the radio waves on the NPR dial and I had to check the radio setting twice to make sure I was on NPR!and not the nearby religious station.
Horseshoe Theory is proven
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« Reply #369 on: February 02, 2017, 12:46:10 PM »
Can just point out that if the feds allow public money to pay for religious schools, the Satanists will start opening schools left and right. And they would not want to fund teaching kids Satanism, now would they?

Just a thought.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster needs kids.  We need to bring the children to the light.  Right now they join so late in life.

I see that they are pulling out the bill to give away federal land (thank you hunters who called).  So I'll call my Rep to give positive feedback on that, and give support for the Oversight Committee to review possible conflicts of interest for Trump.
Hunters and sportsmen and shooting enthusiasts are a powerful demographic.

I will have to mention this when I call my Reps tomorrow: I'm motivated by the refusal to accept the refugees Austrailia has been holding prisoner for two + years. Need to let them know this is not cool.  Not sure if there's anything that can be done to override the President on this, but maybe it'll start something moving in the background.

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« Reply #370 on: February 02, 2017, 01:17:04 PM »
Does any one know of a fax number for Marco Rubio (FL-R)? All his lines are either busy when I call or are full voicemail boxes. I was able to get through to someone in Bill Nelson's Tallahassee office and they said he's going to vote against DeVos, I thanked them/him.
Sen. Marco Rubio
Washington, DC
adr: U.S. Senate, 317 Hart Senate Office Building, Washington, DC 205100001
ph: (202) 224-3041
fax: (202) 228-0285

Thank you. I was also able to get through to his Palm Beach office so I spoke to someone there. I'll keep the fax number for future reference.

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« Reply #371 on: February 02, 2017, 01:43:38 PM »
Idle question of the day:  were voice mail boxes full and live human beings difficult to reach pre-Trump?  Or is this kind of volume of contact new to the Average Senator?

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« Reply #372 on: February 02, 2017, 01:44:25 PM »

anyway, Charlie
Sykes is a "classical liberal" which he decribes as today's conservative.

Classical liberals are not the same as "today's conservative". A classical liberal is more like a libertarian, i.e. "Mind your business". Shoot your guns, drink a beer, smoke a joint, wave to your Muslim neighbors, and wish the fellas next door a happy honeymoon!
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« Reply #373 on: February 02, 2017, 01:47:23 PM »
Just wanted to say that my wife and I will be attending the March for Science in DC. First march for both of us. We also got two friends to make plans to attend.

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« Reply #374 on: February 02, 2017, 01:49:00 PM »
And then I wonder whether we should buy a gun.

You probably should. A gun in the hand beats a cop on the phone.

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« Reply #375 on: February 02, 2017, 01:50:38 PM »
Today I thought to myself, "I really sound like a tinfoil hat crazy person. I must be overreacting."

And then I review events. And I'm like, "I don't think so...."

But then, for instance, I learn that the Judicial Branch page is back on the whitehouse.gov site and I think, "um, okay, maybe I have been overreacting to things." (I thought it was suspicious that it was missing.)

And then I wonder whether we should buy a gun. Or store a shitload of cash in our home.

Ahhhhh!

Yes! Get a gun!

My political action for yesterday was to send a complimentary email to NPR for having Charlie Sykes host an evening show. I think it is in Tom Ashbrook's  slot. anyway, Charlie
Sykes is a "classical liberal" which he decribes as today's conservative.

I was shocked to hear him coming over the radio waves on the NPR dial and I had to check the radio setting twice to make sure I was on NPR!and not the nearby religious station.

Horseshoe Theory is proven
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

Hahaha, sure, kinda.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #376 on: February 02, 2017, 01:55:22 PM »

anyway, Charlie
Sykes is a "classical liberal" which he decribes as today's conservative.

Classical liberals are not the same as "today's conservative". A classical liberal is more like a libertarian, i.e. "Mind your business". Shoot your guns, drink a beer, smoke a joint, and wish the fellas next door a happy honeymoon!
Yes, good clarification. I was using Sykes's own explanation, his one word characterization, he is speaking to the NPR audience, after all, so he has to be S I M P L E . He is likely a constitutional conservative  which I think of a libertarian  or the early version  of the contemporary Tea Party.

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« Reply #377 on: February 02, 2017, 02:33:32 PM »
Just wanted to say that my wife and I will be attending the March for Science in DC. First march for both of us. We also got two friends to make plans to attend.

My boss and I are marching! Science, it works bitches.

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« Reply #378 on: February 02, 2017, 02:36:31 PM »
Just wanted to say that my wife and I will be attending the March for Science in DC. First march for both of us. We also got two friends to make plans to attend.

My boss and I are marching! Science, it works bitches.

Anyone know if there will be a march in the SF Bay Area for this one? Can't find any info so far but would like to participate if I can.

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« Reply #379 on: February 02, 2017, 02:38:33 PM »
Just wanted to say that my wife and I will be attending the March for Science in DC. First march for both of us. We also got two friends to make plans to attend.

My boss and I are marching! Science, it works bitches.

Anyone know if there will be a march in the SF Bay Area for this one? Can't find any info so far but would like to participate if I can.

https://www.marchforscience.com

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« Reply #380 on: February 02, 2017, 02:39:44 PM »
Just wanted to say that my wife and I will be attending the March for Science in DC. First march for both of us. We also got two friends to make plans to attend.

My boss and I are marching! Science, it works bitches.

Anyone know if there will be a march in the SF Bay Area for this one? Can't find any info so far but would like to participate if I can.

https://www.marchforscience.com

Thanks. My reading comprehension is poor it seems. When I first checked it I thought the site only had info for the DC march.

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« Reply #381 on: February 02, 2017, 04:37:16 PM »
Sam, I would totes join you for the science march. Think it'll be safe enough to bring the bebe, a la Women's March, or should she stay with HusbandX?

I was using Sykes's own explanation, his one word characterization, he is speaking to the NPR audience, after all, so he has to be S I M P L E .

Please refrain from the derogatory language regarding NPR listeners. (For the record, I am not one regularly, or by choice. However, they do have lots of thoughtful articles and, despite your characterization, do a lot more centrist/right-leaning content than you seem to think.)

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« Reply #382 on: February 02, 2017, 06:11:56 PM »
I'll probably go to the science march in Boston. 

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« Reply #383 on: February 02, 2017, 06:42:01 PM »
I need this thread in my life right now.

What I did today:
- Left a public comment for DAPL's EIS: http://indigenousrising.org/leave-a-public-comment-for-the-dapl-e-i-s/
- I started a small ($10 LOL) monthly donation to DCCC
- I sent in my notes to construct an agenda for the civic group I'm treasurer of; our retreat is on Saturday
- I avoided talking about politics in my gaming chat room and spent less time on Facebook so I could rest up and fight on

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« Reply #384 on: February 02, 2017, 06:57:01 PM »
I got this message from the SPLC about Steve Bannon on the National Security Council. Please copy/paste on FB/Twitter/etc!

We just learned that the Senate Committee on Homeland Security is taking calls about Steve Bannon's appointment to the National Security Council (NSC).

We’re told that they’re tallying calls.

You might get a busy signal but try, try, try again all this weekend. Leave a message if you get through to voicemail.

The number: 202-224-4751

Be sure to tell the committee that you believe no individual whose primary responsibility is political in nature should be allowed on the NSC or authorized to attend its meetings. Partisan politics have no place in our national security.

Please also email the committee using this form: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/contact

Sample email:

Hello,

Please do not allow Steve Bannon to be part of the National Security Council. I do not believe any individual whose primary responsibility is political in nature should be allowed on the NSC or authorized to attend its meetings. Partisan politics have no place in our national security.

Thank you,
MJ
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« Reply #385 on: February 02, 2017, 07:10:55 PM »
In addition to my usual phone calls and reading and thinking, my act of resistance today was to work on my book, for the first time since the election. I keep feeling like the only important thing is politics right now, but it's not true. Other stuff is also still important and I won't let The Regime take it from me.

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« Reply #386 on: February 02, 2017, 07:32:02 PM »
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Thanks for the additional  info on Bannon.  Emailed my Senators about that the other day, though it sound like they may have exploited a loophole where he is not a member, just you know, attends all the meetings and provides input.  Need to look into it more.

Did the DC March, circled the WH last weekend, donated to Rescue International and ACLU and bought  a Washington post  subscription.

Happy to see the bill for selling public lands bite the dust today.  Need to learn more about the coal waste stream thing.  Urgh.

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« Reply #387 on: February 03, 2017, 07:42:10 AM »
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« Reply #388 on: February 03, 2017, 08:02:56 AM »
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Happy to see the bill for selling public lands bite the dust today.  Need to learn more about the coal waste stream thing.  Urgh.

The coal waste stream thing is a big deal.  The knee jerk reaction's I've heard is that it is mostly an Appalachia issue and since they voted overwhelmingly for Trump, then karma that their water will be poisoned.  However, I used to live in Southwestern CO and much of the groundwater is contaminated from mining activities, though not just coal.  Seeing the sludge flowing from all mines is heartbreaking in the back areas of CO, which most people don't see.  I always had to tell visitors that Coors commercials to the contrary, don't drink the water.  Over a century of mining - all kinds - means that you never know if the water is safe even though it looks crystal clear. 

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« Reply #389 on: February 03, 2017, 08:16:10 AM »
I don't know the truth, but I recently read about a new clean coal burning technology.  I think it said 90% reduction in pollution?  Did anybody else see it? 

I was hoping we'd continue towards sustainable energy, but this could send us back towards coal.  It would be good for the coal economy, and 90% better for the oil.  Might reduce the fracking industry.  I'm sure plenty of other good/bad repercussions.

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« Reply #390 on: February 03, 2017, 08:33:34 AM »
I don't know the truth, but I recently read about a new clean coal burning technology.  I think it said 90% reduction in pollution?  Did anybody else see it? 

I was hoping we'd continue towards sustainable energy, but this could send us back towards coal.  It would be good for the coal economy, and 90% better for the oil.  Might reduce the fracking industry.  I'm sure plenty of other good/bad repercussions.

This is the issue with some reporting.  Yes, "clean-coal" technology significantly reduces the pollution of Coal.  However, the pollution put out by "clean coal" is still significantly more than natural gas and (obviously) renewable sources like solar.  So it is clean only in comparison to how dirty it used to be. 

An analogy I like, is my bathroom floor is clean, but I still don't want to eat off it.


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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #391 on: February 03, 2017, 08:46:06 AM »
I'm passing this along from an email I just received from the Southern Poverty Law Center:

We just learned that the Senate Committee on Homeland Security is taking calls about Steve Bannon's appointment to the National Security Council (NSC).

We’re told that they’re tallying calls.

You might get a busy signal but try, try, try again all this weekend. Leave a message if you get through to voicemail.

The number: 202-224-4751

Be sure to tell the committee that you believe no individual whose primary responsibility is political in nature should be allowed on the NSC or authorized to attend its meetings. Partisan politics have no place in our national security.

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« Reply #392 on: February 03, 2017, 08:51:56 AM »
Done, it picked up immediately and I left a message!

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« Reply #393 on: February 03, 2017, 10:42:48 AM »
I also called and left a message

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« Reply #394 on: February 03, 2017, 11:13:14 AM »
I called. Left a message.

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« Reply #395 on: February 03, 2017, 11:50:22 AM »
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Happy to see the bill for selling public lands bite the dust today.  Need to learn more about the coal waste stream thing.  Urgh.

The coal waste stream thing is a big deal.  The knee jerk reaction's I've heard is that it is mostly an Appalachia issue and since they voted overwhelmingly for Trump, then karma that their water will be poisoned.  However, I used to live in Southwestern CO and much of the groundwater is contaminated from mining activities, though not just coal.  Seeing the sludge flowing from all mines is heartbreaking in the back areas of CO, which most people don't see.  I always had to tell visitors that Coors commercials to the contrary, don't drink the water.  Over a century of mining - all kinds - means that you never know if the water is safe even though it looks crystal clear.


 Even if you were not correct that it isn't just an Appalachian issue, I didn't vote for that asshole and I don't have it coming.  And there are hundreds of thousands of people like me here in Appalachia at a bare minimum.

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« Reply #396 on: February 03, 2017, 12:04:13 PM »
Even if you were not correct that it isn't just an Appalachian issue, I didn't vote for that asshole and I don't have it coming.  And there are hundreds of thousands of people like me here in Appalachia at a bare minimum.

Yeah. Even the reddest states in the union were still about 1/3 Democrat votes. We need to fight for what's right on a national level and not let certain states degenerate into hopeless wastelands in the name of "states' rights" and "they got what they voted for."

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« Reply #397 on: February 03, 2017, 12:46:39 PM »
I'm passing this along from an email I just received from the Southern Poverty Law Center:

We just learned that the Senate Committee on Homeland Security is taking calls about Steve Bannon's appointment to the National Security Council (NSC).

We’re told that they’re tallying calls.

You might get a busy signal but try, try, try again all this weekend. Leave a message if you get through to voicemail.

The number: 202-224-4751

Be sure to tell the committee that you believe no individual whose primary responsibility is political in nature should be allowed on the NSC or authorized to attend its meetings. Partisan politics have no place in our national security.

I called and left a message.

Re DeVos, I also faxed every office of one of the GOP Senators from the state where I grew up.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #398 on: February 03, 2017, 03:14:55 PM »
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Happy to see the bill for selling public lands bite the dust today.  Need to learn more about the coal waste stream thing.  Urgh.

The coal waste stream thing is a big deal.  The knee jerk reaction's I've heard is that it is mostly an Appalachia issue and since they voted overwhelmingly for Trump, then karma that their water will be poisoned.  However, I used to live in Southwestern CO and much of the groundwater is contaminated from mining activities, though not just coal.  Seeing the sludge flowing from all mines is heartbreaking in the back areas of CO, which most people don't see.  I always had to tell visitors that Coors commercials to the contrary, don't drink the water.  Over a century of mining - all kinds - means that you never know if the water is safe even though it looks crystal clear.


 Even if you were not correct that it isn't just an Appalachian issue, I didn't vote for that asshole and I don't have it coming.  And there are hundreds of thousands of people like me here in Appalachia at a bare minimum.

I agree, I was trying to point out a knee jerk reaction I heard from a couple people.  I guess what I meant to say is that it is everywhere, in my state which voted for Trump, in my former state which voted for him and in my former former which did not and in the state that I was born in that that also did not. 

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« Reply #399 on: February 03, 2017, 03:59:54 PM »
I don't know the truth, but I recently read about a new clean coal burning technology.  I think it said 90% reduction in pollution?  Did anybody else see it? 

I was hoping we'd continue towards sustainable energy, but this could send us back towards coal.  It would be good for the coal economy, and 90% better for the oil.  Might reduce the fracking industry.  I'm sure plenty of other good/bad repercussions.

This is the issue with some reporting.  Yes, "clean-coal" technology significantly reduces the pollution of Coal.  However, the pollution put out by "clean coal" is still significantly more than natural gas and (obviously) renewable sources like solar.  So it is clean only in comparison to how dirty it used to be. 

An analogy I like, is my bathroom floor is clean, but I still don't want to eat off it.
True, but the reduction in coal pollution over the past few decades has been truly amazing. No more acid rain, reclaimed lands are beautiful and states that have high numbers of coal plants still rate as the cleanest air  in the nation by the EPA, asthma rates are dropping, etc. It's not as if they're spewing pure posion into the air; one is at least as safe, and lrobably safer from an air quality perspective, living near a modern coal power plant than they are living in a large city.