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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #150 on: January 17, 2017, 11:38:55 AM »
Cressida and SisX, have you read at all about "white feminism" -- i.e. the tendency of white feminists to think about the issues that impact *us* without considering issues that impact black women, disabled women, etc?

Like, when people say "women got the right to vote in 1920," well, nope, that's not even remotely true. White women were able to vote starting in 1920. Black women in Southern states didn't get to exercise that right until the Civil Rights movement. In this way, the experiences of black women have been erased from the feminist movement for a long time.

I see where you are coming from, but do you really think that intersectionality is about women deferring to other groups? I guess it's possible to read it that way, but I don't think that's what is intended or even really what is happening. I see it more as an understanding that all women are impacted by many issues, and the oppression that women suffer based on their gender is often multiplied by race, disability, poverty, etc. If any march for women didn't consider those issues, then there would be a lot of women who'd be left out.

It kind of reminds me of, just after the election, when a bunch of (mostly white dude) liberals were calling for an end to "identity politics" because they are "divisive." But if you look at the liberal platform, and you start taking out planks that apply to the various groups in our culture -- take out disability rights, take out reproductive health, take out Black Lives Matter, etc etc -- then you end up with a platform that is made up exclusively of things that everyone white dudes care about.

It's an example of the centering of white dude perspective that takes place every moment of every day in our culture. The white male perspective is the "default" one, it's the one that is meant when people say "issues that everybody cares about," and the rest of us are just "special interest groups."

My guess is that the organizers of this march are trying to avoid that happening to their platform. They don't want to center on only the issues that impact middle class white women. They want to include the concerns of *all* women, which means explicitly including disabled women, women of color, poor women, etc.

I think this is well said. I would guess that most women of color wouldn't think that intersectionality is about women deferring to other groups.

This is true, and an excellent point. I think my irritation is about the fact that "women's issues" doesn't already cover the issues for women of color and transgender women, etc. Those are women's issues, whether or not it's explicitly stated! Annoying that the blanket term is considered either too broad, too exclusive, or whatever. And yes, annoying as hell that the needs, opinions, and experiences of certain groups of women are regularly shunted aside. I just don't feel like a march about women's issues should have to explicitly state that it's about all women's issues, that should be a given.

Of course, this is also my opinion as a straight white middle-class woman.

The wording made it sound like this policy of inclusivity is about more than just non-white, not-straight women's issues but basically all issues that would be affected by Trump's presidency. That's great, and those issues really, really need attention. But I sort of feel like we're going to get into the problem of trying to cover too much and covering none of it really well. Civil rights marches worked in part because there was one big overarching issue which was being brought to the country's attention. They didn't focus on each individual right, but all of them together. I feel like when we break stuff down to the smallest possible section then it's much easier to dismiss.

I understand the need and desire to make all women feel included, but again that should be a given. The fact that it's not because of historical trends infuriates me. Of course these women are included because they are women, and their problems are a problem for all of us. Non-straight, white, CIS women, or poor women, don't, in my understanding, necessarily have specialized problems, it's more that the problems all women have are amplified. All women face workplace discrimination, but some more than others. All women fear rape, but some are more likely to experience it than others, etc. Feel free to tell me how I'm wrong about this, though, because it might just be me missing something and I'm open to that possibility.

I definitely don't want to be one of those idiots who's trying to patronizingly tell BLM protestors that "all lives matter", but in this case I feel like we have more in common than we have to specialize ourselves about. And having a rally of millions of women who are described merely as women rather than white women and women of color and Muslim women and trans-women is so much more powerful. We are an awesome group, and our diversity should be celebrated and the issues that that diversity faces should be considered thoughtfully and always. But, I also feel like we should focus on our similarities rather than our differences. We are all women, and what happens to other women affects us all no matter what sub-group of womanhood we claim. We need to raise each other up, not compartmentalize ourselves further. That just creates divides where I don't think there need to be any.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #151 on: January 17, 2017, 11:51:51 AM »
Hi ladies! We're getting off track of the original purpose of this thread. Feel free to continue the discussion around the women's march in another thread.

Thanks.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #152 on: January 17, 2017, 12:07:40 PM »
Hey SisX I think it's awesome that you are engaging with this -- it's important that we do this!

I understand the need and desire to make all women feel included, but again that should be a given. The fact that it's not because of historical trends infuriates me. Of course these women are included because they are women, and their problems are a problem for all of us. Non-straight, white, CIS women, or poor women, don't, in my understanding, necessarily have specialized problems, it's more that the problems all women have are amplified. All women face workplace discrimination, but some more than others. All women fear rape, but some are more likely to experience it than others, etc. Feel free to tell me how I'm wrong about this, though, because it might just be me missing something and I'm open to that possibility.

I definitely can't speak for women of color and other groups, but as someone who grew up quite poor (for America), I can attest to having a different set of a problems as a poor white woman (20 years ago) compared to what I face as a middle-class white woman (nowadays). Like, I can remember being treated like trash by a doctor when I was in school, and quite poor, until he realized that I went to a fancy college. Then he treated me awesome. That kind of thing never happens to me now that I present as middle class.

A few more examples: Sandra Bland faced problems that middle-class white women just don't face. Ever. Women in wheelchairs also face problems that able-bodied women have no idea about. Trans women -- especially trans women of color -- face INCREDIBLE amounts of random persecution and violence that just don't typically enter into a middle-of-the-road white woman's life. Muslim women face discrimination that I would have no way of knowing about unless I seek out their stories, unless I welcome their perspective into mine.

None of the oppressive systems we have operate in a vacuum -- they interact and multiply. None of them exist separate from each other in any way. It's not possible to say, well this bad treatment was because of sexism, this other bit was because of racism, and this other bit because of classism.

Past progressive movements, even when they were successful, still tended to exclude many perspectives. The suffragists ignored black feminists; the anti-war movement oppressed women terribly; the Civil Rights movement largely shut black women out of its leadership. Black Lives Matter is run by black women, who in my experience have the best understanding of how different forms of oppression intersect on individual lives, but even BLM has been criticized for paying more attention to police brutality against black men than black women.

All of this is to say that none of this is simple, but I believe it's worth struggling with, because, to me, the point of feminism is that everyone is basically OK, basically has what they need in this life. If we focus only on specifically what we think of as "women's issues" -- which I would maintain is mostly about "white women's issues" -- then we are leaving a lot of people out of our movement.

It seems counter-intuitive to some, but I truly believe that calling out all the different perspectives of women who face different challenges is the thing that makes our movement MORE inclusive. It's not divisive to say -- welcome, black women! Welcome, Muslim women! Welcome, disabled women, LGBT folks, Asian women, Latinas, everyone. It's not divisive to welcome people by name into the movement to liberate women. It's the opposite of divisive.

ETA:
Must've cross-posted with you, MJ. Happy to follow to another thread if anyone else wants to talk about this more.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #153 on: January 17, 2017, 12:35:05 PM »
Hi ladies! We're getting off track of the original purpose of this thread. Feel free to continue the discussion around the women's march in another thread.

Thanks.

OK! My response is here. I don't necessarily want to continue the conversation there, but I thought a clarification was in order.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #154 on: January 18, 2017, 02:55:25 PM »
I volunteered to make cookies for an anti-inaugural fundraiser event on the 20th that is raising money for Planned Parenthood, ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Center, etc. I wanted to do *something* this weekend since I can't go and march (for medical reasons). I am really bummed and having to restrain myself from going to the march anyway, because I know it would not turn out well for me.

I might try to go to De Blasio's rally tomorrow at Columbus Circle. (Is anyone else going?)  I'm going to a fundraiser at 7:30 but the rally is at 6 so I could stop by...
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #155 on: January 18, 2017, 07:39:27 PM »
Posting in case you suggest actions for internationals
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #156 on: January 18, 2017, 09:08:07 PM »
Posting in case you suggest actions for internationals

If you scroll down to the bottom of this page, you'll see a list of international sister marches!
https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #157 on: January 19, 2017, 07:03:26 AM »
I do this one yearly for the last 4 years.
i own my house, no payments... but i still have to slave away for 3 weeks every year or someone with a gun will remove me from my property :(


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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2017, 07:06:28 AM »
When someone says we should pay more in taxes to "help each other" i now give them this....

https://www.pay.gov/public/form/start/23779454

Anyone can donate money to the government according to many people government is best form of charity....

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2017, 08:15:40 AM »
I do this one yearly for the last 4 years.
i own my house, no payments... but i still have to slave away for 3 weeks every year or someone with a gun will remove me from my property :(



Maybe they'll allow you to stop paying your property taxes, if you'll agree to start paying for the water, sewer, and roads that lead to and from your house yourself.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #160 on: January 21, 2017, 05:18:57 AM »
I do this one yearly for the last 4 years.
i own my house, no payments... but i still have to slave away for 3 weeks every year or someone with a gun will remove me from my property :(



Maybe they'll allow you to stop paying your property taxes, if you'll agree to start paying for the water, sewer, and roads that lead to and from your house yourself.

All those services are provided by the city run utility monopoly.
If i could, i would gladly accept the deal you just provided. Sadly i can't, if i tried someone would come into my house and lock me in a cage after a few years.

I like to keep wasted spending to to a very low number, even more so on services i do not wish to have. I mean it would be crazy if you HAD to buy 200 cable TV channels, or HAVE to buy a huge truck.
To me having to BUY EMS service, and power, and city water is just crazy. I prefer to not buy those services, but i have to :(
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #161 on: January 21, 2017, 05:55:00 AM »
It's the cost of living in civilization. Get over it and move on to real issues that matter.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #162 on: January 21, 2017, 06:11:20 AM »
I do this one yearly for the last 4 years.
i own my house, no payments... but i still have to slave away for 3 weeks every year or someone with a gun will remove me from my property :(



Maybe they'll allow you to stop paying your property taxes, if you'll agree to start paying for the water, sewer, and roads that lead to and from your house yourself.

All those services are provided by the city run utility monopoly.
If i could, i would gladly accept the deal you just provided. Sadly i can't, if i tried someone would come into my house and lock me in a cage after a few years.

I like to keep wasted spending to to a very low number, even more so on services i do not wish to have. I mean it would be crazy if you HAD to buy 200 cable TV channels, or HAVE to buy a huge truck.
To me having to BUY EMS service, and power, and city water is just crazy. I prefer to not buy those services, but i have to :(
This is a problem for the Tiny House Movement as well, but with sq. footage regulations/hookups originally meant to keep people from living in slums which now just help to drive these absurd housing bubbles.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #163 on: January 21, 2017, 06:26:18 AM »
Here's an idea for an act of political resistance that doesn't require any significant physical energy and was started moments after the inauguration.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance


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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #164 on: January 21, 2017, 06:27:34 AM »
Hey guys, this is getting off-topic.

Who is going to a march today? I'm going in NYC.

Some White House petitions that you can sign today, since most people are otherwise occupied:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/divest-or-put-blind-trust-all-presidents-business-and-financial-assets

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance

ETA: Great minds, Indio! I put the blind trust petition first, since the tax returns petition has already crossed the minimum needed for an official response.

Reminder that everyone can also easily share these on Facebook, Twitter, your personal journals, etc.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #165 on: January 21, 2017, 06:32:39 AM »
Posting in case you suggest actions for internationals

If you scroll down to the bottom of this page, you'll see a list of international sister marches!
https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters
Thank you for this: I found a "march" (a gathering on a local beach) very near me and will be going.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #166 on: January 21, 2017, 07:14:26 AM »
Hey guys, this is getting off-topic.

Who is going to a march today? I'm going in NYC.

Some White House petitions that you can sign today, since most people are otherwise occupied:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/divest-or-put-blind-trust-all-presidents-business-and-financial-assets

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/immediately-release-donald-trumps-full-tax-returns-all-information-needed-verify-emoluments-clause-compliance

Thanks, MJ. Signed and shared.

I have a work conflict so I can't march today. I did sponsor a marcher to travel from my area to DC. Thank you to everyone who is marching today.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #167 on: January 21, 2017, 07:44:06 AM »
The National Education Association has a petition to sign opposing Betsy DeVos for Secretary of Education. When you sign it also sends an email to your Senators. The site may also give you link to another petition opposing Jeff Sessions as Attorney General.

http://edadvocacy.nea.org/nea/app/write-a-letter?5&engagementId=264253

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #168 on: January 21, 2017, 04:02:56 PM »
Thanks for the petitions. I'll check if any are open globally when I get to a computer.

I am so proud of all the people around the world marching today. First thing I did when I got internet access was to look up the success and start public crying
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #169 on: January 21, 2017, 04:36:46 PM »
It's the cost of living in civilization. Get over it and move on to real issues that matter.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #170 on: January 21, 2017, 05:35:26 PM »
I went to my march today! We had a huge turnout! It was a fantastic experience, lots of amazing women and the folks who support them. I feel much more positive and energized for what needs to be done in the coming years.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #171 on: January 21, 2017, 06:24:14 PM »
I went to my march today! We had a huge turnout! It was a fantastic experience, lots of amazing women and the folks who support them. I feel much more positive and energized for what needs to be done in the coming years.

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NYC was crazy. I couldn't get out through the main subway exit because so many people were trying to go through. And that was just underground! There were people on bridges and rooftops, inside second-story Barnes and Noble and Apple stores pressing signs against the windows.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #172 on: January 21, 2017, 09:58:21 PM »
I went. I marched. So did the Demon Child. We had a sign (albeit a small one, since I'd forgotten that I gave away the stash of poster board I unearthed a while ago!). It took two hours just waiting for the bus, then another hour on the bus. We arrived in plenty of time for the first bus, but the transit center was more full than I've ever seen it! We passed the time by talking with a woman who was excited to be going to her first protest. She's 78. So many people commented on how multi-generational this was.

The energy was positive. People were excited and fired up, but in a good way. So many pink hats. I did not have one, but hoped to make up for it by wearing my Notorious RBG shirt, my grandmother's Navy jacket, and my Harley Quinn underwear.*

It was a great march, but I know it was symbolic. Wanting to do more. Signed those petitions, and still wanting to do more.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #173 on: January 21, 2017, 10:26:51 PM »
It was a great march, but I know it was symbolic. Wanting to do more. Signed those petitions, and still wanting to do more.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #174 on: January 22, 2017, 06:17:12 AM »
"RUN FOR OFFICE"

Working on it. Sadly, there aren't 30,000 of you, MJ, or I'd have my state senate/house seat already :P.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #175 on: January 22, 2017, 06:23:45 AM »
Just found this great idea. Following!  Thanks MJ!

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #176 on: January 22, 2017, 07:21:43 AM »
Not sure this falls under resistance specifically but it is action. Here is a link from yesterday's march

https://www.womensmarch.com/100/

If you would like to call your elected officials in Washington, DC (202) 224-3121

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #177 on: January 22, 2017, 08:08:47 AM »
An additional way to get involved:

Introduce a local anti-corruption act. The group Represent Us won its first state-wide victory in 2016, with South Dakota passing the Government Accountability and Anti-Corruption Act, a measure that will increase transparency and accountability. There have also been local wins in cities in Oregon, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and California.

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RepresentUs/?pnref=about.overview
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Not sure this falls under resistance specifically but it is action. Here is a link from yesterday's march

https://www.womensmarch.com/100/

If you would like to call your elected officials in Washington, DC (202) 224-3121

Action is resistance!

Hi fallstoclimb!

Pooperman, it's a shame there aren't 30,000 of you! For anyone who doesn't know, this guy started TWO Indivisible groups, and is going to run for office in North Carolina. All while being an introvert.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #178 on: January 22, 2017, 11:14:18 AM »
Introduce a local anti-corruption act.
I was thinking about something similar when reading about the new fiduciary rule for investment advisers. Basically it binds them into doing what is best for their client (thus barring them from recommending what will make them the biggest commissions). What if we got a similar rule/law passed for our legislatures?
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #179 on: January 22, 2017, 11:30:16 AM »
Introduce a local anti-corruption act.
I was thinking about something similar when reading about the new fiduciary rule for investment advisers. Basically it binds them into doing what is best for their client (thus barring them from recommending what will make them the biggest commissions). What if we got a similar rule/law passed for our legislatures?

Why do you think  legislators currently DO NOT take action for the "best"  of their constituents? Just because you disagree with it?

I often disagree with the actions of my Democratic senator, but I bet you would agree with them ?it is called politics. We as a body politic cannot agree on a basic set of measures to define " best" so your proposal seems naive to me.

Now I suppose the OP will be along to tell us to stop talking and get back to topc.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #180 on: January 22, 2017, 11:39:53 AM »
Introduce a local anti-corruption act.
I was thinking about something similar when reading about the new fiduciary rule for investment advisers. Basically it binds them into doing what is best for their client (thus barring them from recommending what will make them the biggest commissions). What if we got a similar rule/law passed for our legislatures?

Why do you think  legislators currently DO NOT take action for the "best"  of their constituents? Just because you disagree with it?

I think a lot of legislators take action based on

1. What is best for them personally
2. What is best for their wealthy and/or corporate donors
3. What is most likely to get them rewarded by higher-ups in the party
etc.

Not what is best for their constituents.

There is a real world out there, with real facts, and real consequences. Some things are true and some are not. Some things are right and some are wrong. It's not a football game where you're rooting for your team to win and there are no real consequences.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #181 on: January 22, 2017, 12:43:44 PM »
Introduce a local anti-corruption act.
I was thinking about something similar when reading about the new fiduciary rule for investment advisers. Basically it binds them into doing what is best for their client (thus barring them from recommending what will make them the biggest commissions). What if we got a similar rule/law passed for our legislatures?

Why do you think  legislators currently DO NOT take action for the "best"  of their constituents? Just because you disagree with it?

I think a lot of legislators take action based on

1. What is best for them personally
2. What is best for their wealthy and/or corporate donors
3. What is most likely to get them rewarded by higher-ups in the party
etc.

Not what is best for their constituents.

There is a real world out there, with real facts, and real consequences. Some things are true and some are not. Some things are right and some are wrong. It's not a football game where you're rooting for your team to win and there are no real consequences.

Ok, take for example the Right To Work lssue bubbling in our state. It basically relieves workers in union shops from paying union dues. Studies on both sides of the issue  demonstrate their side benefits the most workers. When we cant agree on a basic measure or fact, how can we expect the legislator to choose the best course to benefit The People?

In my city as in others, public funding of sports stAdiums is a big issue. Studies show people benefit from these stadiums. To what extent? What is the bottom line economic proof that this is worth tax dollars? There is no single study, various studies show various results. Again, no clear path for the politician to define what is best for his monolithic constituent.

You must have a clear opinion on NAFTA. Is it clearly right or wrong?

What about the Dakota pipeline, right or wrong?

You must have a clear opinion on illegal immigration. right, or wrong?

I distrust opinions that claim to benefit all people or even The People.  They seem to me to benefit some but people not all, and that is inevitable in any political action. Inevitable. Not sneaky or self serving.
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #182 on: January 22, 2017, 01:59:07 PM »
We have weekends, workplace safety standards, child labor laws, healthcare, and the family leave act largely because of unions. I think it's pretty clear that from a broad perspective, they have been a net good influence on America and the world. Shit, when people are all like "man, we need to go back to when someone with a manufacturing job could support a family," how do we think that happened? IT WAS UNIONS.

The issues you are talking about are all complex. That doesn't mean that there isn't any way to measure what worked and what didn't, and make decisions on that basis.

Progressives tend to want to make those decisions based on the number and relative wealth of the people being served. We want more people, who currently have less, to end up with more. Republicans -- at least many/most of the ones in office now -- seem to want to make those decisions based on people who have a lot currently being able to keep it and/or get more.

The administration right now CLEARLY wants to strip the government down for parts and line their pockets. I mean, most politicians do this to some extent, but this administration is really taking it to a new level.

That's why we need to stay informed and call our representatives every single day to let them know that we are not down with kleptocracy.

(Tried to get it back on topic for ya there, MJ!)
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #183 on: January 22, 2017, 02:26:22 PM »
I think everybody needs to look to the left, to the right, and at themselves and ask, "who would make a good public servant?"

If you know somebody whom you think shows great leadership potential-- smart, successful, and socially responsible--  plant that seed.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #184 on: January 22, 2017, 02:47:25 PM »
Appreciating the remarks of IrisLily, DollarSlice and Madgeylou that address DollarSlice's suggestion for an anti-corruption act to require legislators to legislate in their constituents' interest. 

If anyone wants to further discuss the implications of this proposal, I invite you to carry them to the new Politics Octagon thread.  I created that as a place to have wider discussions outside of a focused thread.  Will try to keep my own views on DollarSlice's proposal to that thread if anyone goes there.

No idea if this helpful, just making the offer.  I like the focused nature of this thread and want to preserve it.  Carry on.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #185 on: January 22, 2017, 04:20:06 PM »
After we'd been marching in the Portland rain for awhile yesterday. The whole thing was fantastic!

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #186 on: January 22, 2017, 06:01:13 PM »
Aw jeez, y'all are so cute I almost can't stand it :D

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #187 on: January 22, 2017, 06:16:10 PM »
Anyone with an hour to spare right now can listen in on a call hosted by MoveOn.org and Indivisible.

You can listen to the call via webstream starting at 8 p.m. ET (7 CT/6 MT/5 PT) today at this link: https://video.teleforumonline.com/video/streaming.php?client=13043

Or by dialing 855-808-5137 PIN: 113043 at 8 p.m. ET (7 CT/6 MT/5 PT) today.

For the slideshow: https://act.moveon.org/survey/indivisible/

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #188 on: January 22, 2017, 08:18:38 PM »
@MonkeyJenga: Thank you for posting the info about the MoveOn.org and Indivisible webinar. I'm not seeing the slides, but I received an email from them saying that this video summarizes their plan: https://www.facebook.com/moveon/videos/10154081946905493/

Really excited to report that a neighbor has started a grassroots activist group! First meeting is next month.


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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #189 on: January 22, 2017, 08:22:09 PM »
Awesome, llorona! Let us know how the meeting goes.

Groups are organizing for #ResistTrumpTuesdays. This Tuesday, Jan 24, there are events all across the country to pressure Senators to reject Trump's Cabinet picks. The NY event is during lunch to give the most people the option to attend, which is probably true in many places.

Go here to find a local event: https://act.moveon.org/event/stop_trumps_swamp_cabinet/search/

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #190 on: January 23, 2017, 04:29:02 AM »
Just found this: https://swingleft.org/. Not sure if it's been posted before.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #191 on: January 23, 2017, 08:08:04 AM »
11,000 marched on Saturday in the relatively small city of Ann Arbor.

http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2017/01/more_than_6000_flood_streets_o.html

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #192 on: January 23, 2017, 11:29:33 AM »
quick question:  My wife has been trying to call Paul Ryan's office all day.  Every time she gets an immediate "This call cannot be completed."  Is that because his phones are swamped or some other reason?  She has the correct number.

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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #193 on: January 23, 2017, 11:32:54 AM »
quick question:  My wife has been trying to call Paul Ryan's office all day.  Every time she gets an immediate "This call cannot be completed."  Is that because his phones are swamped or some other reason?  She has the correct number.

Looks like Paul Ryan still doesn't want to let his constituents' voices be heard. From the 16th:

I'll be going to a march in NYC!

Paul Ryan has reportedly stopped taking calls, stopped taking faxes, and stopped accepting office visitors with petitions.

Some folks are sending postcards and letters to his home address to tell him NO to defunding Planned Parenthood, NO to repealing Affordable Care Act, and NO to privatizing Medicare.

Paul Ryan
700 Saint Lawrence Ave
 Janesville, WI
 53545-4040

Also call your congressional representatives and senators! Even Democrats.

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« Reply #194 on: January 23, 2017, 11:45:49 AM »
Call Ur Senator and ask them not to confirm Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education.
1. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/01/20/the-ethics-review-for-trumps-education-pick-betsy-devos-is-complete-clearing-the-way-for-a-confirmation-vote/?utm_term=.a4982065c3ea Her ethics vetting is not yet complete
2. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/01/19/from-start-to-finish-the-devos-education-confirmation-hearing-was-rather-remarkable/?utm_term=.7fc0d509c596 She refuses to support equal accountability for any school receiving Federal Funding (like, religious schools and charters). Not a great use of our tax dollars.
3.  (Same ref as 2) She also seems unclear about Federal Civil Rights laws requiring schools to serve students with disabilities.

Your phone call may differ, I went with
Senator, my name is $$$, and I'm a constituent of yours from %%%. I'm calling to urge you not to confirm Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education. Her ethics assessment is incomplete, she doesn't agree that all schools receiving taxpayer funds should be held accountable to the same performance and assessment standards, and she doesn't seem to understand or support civil rights laws regarding the requirement for schools to serve students with disabilities. Please vote NO on confirming Betsy DeVos.

PS: How do I make a pretty link?

Edited for typos, darn it!
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Re: Small Daily Acts of Political Resistance
« Reply #196 on: January 23, 2017, 01:11:46 PM »
When someone says we should pay more in taxes to "help each other" i now give them this....

There's charity, and then there's charity at gunpoint. One is admirable and the other is just doing what you have to do to avoid prison.

"knock knock... hello I'm taking donations for the Red Cross, would you like to contribute? Oh great thank you for the $20!"
vs.
::kicks down door:: "GIVE ME MONEY FOR THE RED CROSS OR I'LL SHOOT YOU"

I don't think one gets moral credit for forcing other people to "donate" via taxation, or using the government as a proxy to do the same.


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« Reply #197 on: January 23, 2017, 01:22:39 PM »

PS: How do I make a pretty link?
The easiest way is to quote a "pretty" link someone else has posted and you'll see the code.
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« Reply #198 on: January 23, 2017, 01:31:18 PM »

PS: How do I make a pretty link?
The easiest way is to quote a "pretty" link someone else has posted and you'll see the code.

[ url = http://google.com ] I'm a pretty link! [ / url ]

^^ Take out all the spaces between the square brackets and you're good! Replace the webpage and title as you see fit. :)

I'm a pretty link!

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« Reply #199 on: January 23, 2017, 02:56:13 PM »

PS: How do I make a pretty link?
The easiest way is to quote a "pretty" link someone else has posted and you'll see the code.

[ url = http://google.com ] I'm a pretty link! [ / url ]

^^ Take out all the spaces between the square brackets and you're good! Replace the webpage and title as you see fit. :)

I'm a pretty link!

Thanks so much! I promise the next one will look nicer!