Should we invoke the 25th and make Harris president until January 20th?

[Fru-Gal]

Why or why not?

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

What would be the goal of doing this?

[ixtap]

Based on what? The 25th isn't just a random declaration of choosing the VP.

[Fru-Gal]

OK, instead of the VP and cabinet invoking the 25th, I’m already reading proposals that Biden resign for the remainder of his term!

[Morning Glory]

It would have made sense a year or even six months ago. Now I don't see any point.

[Telecaster]

OK, instead of the VP and cabinet invoking the 25th, I’m already reading proposals that Biden resign for the remainder of his term!

What good does that do? 

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

Again, what on earth is the point?

[Fru-Gal]

First woman president. Obviously.

[MrGreen]

All the 45-47 Trump merch is ruined too. Lol. That would be spiteful and humorous.

[Kris]

All the 45-47 Trump merch is ruined too. Lol. That would be spiteful and humorous.

Ok, I can honestly see the point in that.

[Telecaster]

First woman president. Obviously.

Why is that obvious?

[Fru-Gal]

Apparently this idea is not only a few months old, it dates back to Clinton/Gore, and Obama/Biden vs Trump the first time.

Just having some fun.

[SuperNintendo Chalmers]

All the 45-47 Trump merch is ruined too. Lol. That would be spiteful and humorous.

Ok, I can honestly see the point in that.

Yeah, I'm sold.  Plus in 200 years the history books (if they still exist) will at least say that the first woman United States President was Kamala Harris is 2024, instead of Lauren Boebert or Tiffany Trump in 2036. 

[reeshau]

All the 45-47 Trump merch is ruined too. Lol. That would be spiteful and humorous.

Ok, I can honestly see the point in that.

Yeah, I'm sold.  Plus in 200 years the history books (if they still exist) will at least say that the first woman United States President was Kamala Harris is 2024, instead of Lauren Boebert or Tiffany Trump in 2036.

I would not want to cheapen that milestone with an asterisk that has to explain how it happened (abnormally) and how short a duration it was.

[Fru-Gal]

There’s no cheapening. The only way you break through a glass ceiling is to break through by any means necessary.

[OzzieandHarriet]

What do we have to lose?

[Telecaster]

What do we have to lose?

There is a limited amount of time between now and January 20 for the executive to act.   This includes nominating judges, finalizing agency rules, executive orders, aid to Ukraine, finalizing/reforming ACA rules, etc. 

Wasting this opportunity for no gain seems awfully self-destructive. 

[Metalcat]

There’s no cheapening. The only way you break through a glass ceiling is to break through by any means necessary.

IDK, Kim Campbell is a running joke in Canada

[wenchsenior]

I think doing this would seem gimmicky and fundamentally unserious to most U.S. voters.

[Just Joe]

I think doing this would seem gimmicky and fundamentally unserious to most U.S. voters.

Kind of like Trump's whole political career - right? ;)

Actually I know what you are saying and agree. I do like ruining all the Trump merch though.

[iris lily]

Ridiculous.

[iris lily]

All the 45-47 Trump merch is ruined too. Lol. That would be spiteful and humorous.

Ok, I can honestly see the point in that.

Yeah, I'm sold.  Plus in 200 years the history books (if they still exist) will at least say that the first woman United States President was Kamala Harris is 2024, instead of Lauren Boebert or Tiffany Trump in 2036.

Nicky
Haley.

[iris lily]

There’s no cheapening. The only way you break through a glass ceiling is to break through by any means necessary.

No. serving it up to her on a silver platter absolutely lessens the win. And strengthens her DEI identity.

Why don’t we try having real respect for female candidates by allowing them to compete.

[Fru-Gal]

So men are allowed to have billionaires and dictators and bros put their thumbs on the scale to achieve executive leadership but women are not?

That’s not how the world works. You get the position, then you prove you’re worthy. Women always worry if they have the qualifications for promotions while men simply jump in.

Further, in this particular situation the reason Harris ran in place of Biden was because, ostensibly, he was too old. Gaining a position via someone above you resigning is not ignoble or unworthy. If that were the case then many of us would never have had jobs. Being appointed, by the same token, is not dishonorable (it only is if we disagree with the person being appointed LOL).

The only reason Mexico has its first woman president in Claudia Scheinbaum is because Obrador chose her.

BTW I don’t care one way or another, but this thought experiment is quite popular on social media right now.

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

So men are allowed to have billionaires and dictators and bros put their thumbs on the scale to achieve executive leadership but women are not?

That’s not how the world works. You get the position, then you prove you’re worthy. Women always worry if they have the qualifications for promotions while men simply jump in.

Further, in this particular situation the reason Harris ran in place of Biden was because, ostensibly, he was too old. Gaining a position via someone above you resigning is not ignoble or unworthy. If that were the case then many of us would never have had jobs. Being appointed, by the same token, is not dishonorable (it only is if we disagree with the person being appointed LOL).

The only reason Mexico has its first woman president in Claudia Scheinbaum is because Obrador chose her.

BTW I don’t care one way or another, but this thought experiment is quite popular on social media right now.

That's kind of a problem, though, isn't it. She couldn't get anything realistically significant accomplished in her remaining time. It works be meaningless in no small part because her role for the scant few weeks she has left would be essentially meaningless. It would be like getting an honorary degree from Yale. It's cool and all, but does it really mean much?

[GuitarStv]

What would be the goal of doing this?

Trump's supreme court said that she's legally allowed to assassinate anyone she doesn't like without repercussions as the president.  Might as well take advantage of the new powers before Trump does.