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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #50 on: May 03, 2022, 07:22:10 AM »
Pcs have come a long way. For any gaming I have a small custom ITX build that has had incredible value for me as it almost always receives used parts when other people upgrade to top tier stuff.

With that being said if you don't have ultra high res monitors or keep 25 chrome tabs up.  .  .

I bought this for the office PC at a business I own.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0899N2L6T?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title&th=1

No issues at all, it runs 24/7 as we never turn it off.  Plenty fast for office stuff and very affordable.  It's a basic browser PC and other basic office task.  I can't imagine it struggling with any normal task that isn't gaming or stress testing.

It scores about 3,000 on passmark. Don't let this fool you with top tier CPUs putting out scores of 40,000 these days... That's only a recent invention.   That score would have been good enough to game in 2016.

I'm pleased with it, it's cheap, and if you have a monitor versa mount it doesn't even take up desktop space
This is interesting. I found this on offer on German amazon for less than €190. It might be a good option to take the pressure off my ten-year-old laptop. I rescued an old monitor from work recently and would only need to buy a keyboard.
I'd be using it for: Word, PowerPoint, Excel (I translate on the side and this is the format most things come in), occasional streaming (netflix, youtube etc.), blogging. So, nothing like gaming but intermittently very heavy use all the same. Obviously all the usual stuff like anti-virus, VPN, etc. as well.
Would anyone who knows about such things care to take a glance at the one I found and offer an opinion? It's not quite the same as the one Kroaler linked.
The J3455 CPU is quite a bit older (2016) than the J4125 (2019). A quick Google indicates the latter benchmarks around 40-50% faster.

Although the specific model numbers of the low power Celeron and Pentium Silver lineup are super confusing.

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Still way younger than my 2012 laptop. :-D

Thanks for this. I looked harder and found two more, which are closer to, or possibly actually the same as the one Kroaler linked. For anyone who cares to take a look here and here. I think I may just go for it. I've been saying for at least six years that I need to think about replacing my laptop but a cooling pad and replacment battery has kept it going.

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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #51 on: May 03, 2022, 07:33:51 AM »
Would anyone who knows about such things care to take a glance at the one I found and offer an opinion? It's not quite the same as the one Kroaler linked.
As others have mentioned it's quite a bit inferior. Maybe take a look at this one (€374):
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/MINIS-Upgradable-Desktop-Computer-Windows/dp/B08ZXWMN1W/

16GB DDR4 RAM
512GB SSD
AMD V1605B CPU (more than twice the performance of the one Kroaler linked)
2.5Gb Ethernet

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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2022, 08:03:30 AM »
Still way younger than my 2012 laptop. :-D

Thanks for this. I looked harder and found two more, which are closer to, or possibly actually the same as the one Kroaler linked. For anyone who cares to take a look here and here. I think I may just go for it. I've been saying for at least six years that I need to think about replacing my laptop but a cooling pad and replacement battery has kept it going.

I'm of the school of that that @RWD follows, spend a bit more, get way more performance, get more life out of the machine, and less headaches waiting for the computer to respond to you. But you probably don't need to do that. If you choose between those two above, just make sure you get the SSD (solid state drive) one, not the eMMC! Or spend a bit more and get RWD's choice!

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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2022, 08:25:36 AM »
Or spend a bit more and get RWD's choice!
I'm biased, of course, but it seems like a no-brainer to spend an extra €134 to get double the RAM, double the CPU power, and quadruple the disk space.

You hear a lot about diminishing returns in relation to spending more to get incrementally better products. But the reverse is also the case. At the cheapest end the manufacturers have to cut bigger and bigger corners in order to incrementally lower the cost of a product.

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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2022, 09:13:33 AM »
Or spend a bit more and get RWD's choice!
I'm biased, of course, but it seems like a no-brainer to spend an extra €134 to get double the RAM, double the CPU power, and quadruple the disk space.

You hear a lot about diminishing returns in relation to spending more to get incrementally better products. But the reverse is also the case. At the cheapest end the manufacturers have to cut bigger and bigger corners in order to incrementally lower the cost of a product.
Thanks for the help. I'll mull it over.

Just to note: €134 more is really not a lot, but increasing the price of something by 72% definitely feels like it. :-)

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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #55 on: May 03, 2022, 11:05:22 AM »
Or spend a bit more and get RWD's choice!
I'm biased, of course, but it seems like a no-brainer to spend an extra €134 to get double the RAM, double the CPU power, and quadruple the disk space.

You hear a lot about diminishing returns in relation to spending more to get incrementally better products. But the reverse is also the case. At the cheapest end the manufacturers have to cut bigger and bigger corners in order to incrementally lower the cost of a product.
Thanks for the help. I'll mull it over.

Just to note: €134 more is really not a lot, but increasing the price of something by 72% definitely feels like it. :-)

It's 56% compared to the one you linked that had an actual SSD. A price increase of +56% for more than double the performance is pretty darn great for computers.

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Re: Recommendation for desktop computer
« Reply #56 on: May 03, 2022, 12:07:42 PM »
Oops. Maths is really not my strong point. :-D