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How do you pronounce Toque?

Toke - American
181 (61.4%)
Toke - Canadian
9 (3.1%)
Toke - Other
20 (6.8%)
Two-k - American
29 (9.8%)
Two-k - Canadian
55 (18.6%)
Two-k - Other
1 (0.3%)

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« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2017, 02:33:57 AM »
I say it as "toke". Prob not gonna change that in my head, but now I'll never say it aloud for fear of being wrong. That's okay though. As an American, it's just not a word that creeps into usage here.
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« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2017, 05:14:10 AM »
In Nevada, I was told to "give an item to the man over there wearing the beanie"...

This is what I thought they were talking about, and of course no one was wearing this, so I was confused.

YES!  Those are beanies.  Toques are for winter, those are for? summer? 
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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2017, 06:50:45 AM »
I pronounce it Stocking Cap, and I grew up in the Maritimes in the 70's. I didn't learn the work toque until much later in life, likely around the same time that poutine migrated out of Quebec, but long before the donair migrated out west.

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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2017, 09:09:56 AM »
I propose we revoke the citizenship of any Canadian who was pronouncing it incorrectly, especially Zamboni (if Zamboni is a Canadian).

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« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2017, 11:46:39 AM »
Yeah, the little cap with the propeller on top is what I think of when I think of 'beanie'.   

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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2017, 02:03:12 PM »
I propose we revoke the citizenship of any Canadian who was pronouncing it incorrectly, especially Zamboni (if Zamboni is a Canadian).
Except the Zamboni was invented in California :)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_resurfacer

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« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2017, 03:43:22 PM »
I propose we revoke the citizenship of any Canadian who was pronouncing it incorrectly, especially Zamboni (if Zamboni is a Canadian).
Except the Zamboni was invented in California :)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_resurfacer

If you spend that much time on the ice you should know the Canadian words! :)

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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2017, 07:27:22 AM »
You mean like vico and bunnyhug?   Oh wait, those are just from Saskatchewan... never mind.

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« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2017, 07:44:15 AM »
I'm from the Midwest and have spent enough time around Canadians to know its a "tuke."

But I thought I'd clear this up - a knitted hat is not a beanie. It is a stocking hat, a ski hat, or just a hat. Mostly just a hat. It's the main hat we wear, after all.

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« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2017, 07:47:30 AM »
Yes, those are among the hats I envisioned when ARS said beanie! I also think about Relic on The Beachcombers, even though I can't actually remember what his summer hat looked like...

Since we are on pronunciations, for months I thought arebelspy was pronounced R-Bell'-spee. I didn't even see the rebel in him. I prefer his full screen name over his shortcut, because I see ARS and pronounce it "arse". I like his posts too much to think of him as a butt :)


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« Reply #60 on: May 17, 2017, 09:46:00 AM »
I prefer his full screen name over his shortcut, because I see ARS and pronounce it "arse". I like his posts too much to think of him as a butt :)

Delightfully, ARS is fully supportive of us pronouncing him arse :)
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« Reply #61 on: May 17, 2017, 10:10:13 AM »
I just did a Google image search for 'beanie'. It showed me nothing but stocking caps.

I've never known Google to be so wrong before.

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« Reply #62 on: May 17, 2017, 10:19:30 AM »
A tall, cylindrical, white chef's hat is spelled "toque" and pronounced "toke".
So I thought the guy was some kind of cook.

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« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2017, 10:19:53 AM »
Google shows a lot of toques under beanie, it is true. Google is so far not representing my culture; must add images to its database.

It does also show this hat, though, which to me defines beanie. I think of beanie as any little circle hat, so like those posted above, or this one, etc.

https://crowncap.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/1-011FP-brown-salt-pepper-Small.jpg

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« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2017, 10:17:45 PM »
So much like what happens when I read books with names in it i don't know how to pronounce (J R Tolkien I'm looking at you), if i see names i don't know how to pronounce i just turn it into a different name of something more familiar to me. (Or it's that i'm lazy.)   

So in my mind:

FrugalToque = Frugal Torque   

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« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2017, 10:49:12 PM »
Arbell spy

I don't know how to pronounce that :(

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« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2017, 02:03:49 AM »
I propose we revoke the citizenship of any Canadian who was pronouncing it incorrectly, especially Zamboni (if Zamboni is a Canadian).
Except the Zamboni was invented in California :)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_resurfacer
And that multicolored headgear in the second photo was worn by Beanie in "Beanie and Cecil", but it's a whole other kind of beanie. Propellerhead vs. knit cap.
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« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2017, 10:47:11 AM »
In Nevada, I was told to "give an item to the man over there wearing the beanie"...

This is what I thought they were talking about, and of course no one was wearing this, so I was confused.

Yeah, totally, to me a beanie growing up was this:

...(some comics in this series skipped)...


It took me about a decade to adjust to the idea that a beanie is a knitted cap, as Google Images shows. Now when I think beanie, I think of the knitted cap first, so it's fully sunk in.
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« Reply #68 on: May 18, 2017, 10:53:36 AM »
I have been mentally adding an 'r' to make it "FrugalTorque" all this time.  But yes "Frugal-Small-Hat" makes a lot more sense than "Frugal-Moment-Arm-Cross-Force".
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« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2017, 11:14:05 AM »
A beanie is a whirligig hat.  A toque (tuke, approximately) is a Canadian warm hat.  Before edge-of-Canada DBF told me that word, I just called such hats "hats" and only ever referred to them in the context of other warm apparel.  "Go put on your hat, coat, snow pants, mittens, and boots!"

Yes, those are among the hats I envisioned when ARS said beanie! I also think about Relic on The Beachcombers, even though I can't actually remember what his summer hat looked like...

Since we are on pronunciations, for months I thought arebelspy was pronounced R-Bell'-spee. I didn't even see the rebel in him. I prefer his full screen name over his shortcut, because I see ARS and pronounce it "arse". I like his posts too much to think of him as a butt :)

For a long time, I was correctly reading it as A Rebel Spy, but I thought that he was just really in favor of the South during the American Civil War... O_O  Apparently it is a Star Wars movie reference!
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« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2017, 12:55:19 PM »
Has SCTV taught you nothing people?

"Take off to the Great White North...Take off, it's the beauty way to go!"
(Plus they say toque about a million times)
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« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2017, 08:29:30 PM »
Arbell spy

I don't know how to pronounce that :(

Like "barbell" "spy" but without the "b"

which is again, same problem.  I didn't know how to pronounce it so i just made up something up that in my mind resembled a word i know.  It makes no sense.
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« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2017, 08:46:27 PM »
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« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2017, 12:15:44 AM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

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« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2017, 12:23:33 AM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

Ah! Because you're British, yes? I pronounce duke "dook". Hmmm...But not "rhymes with took"...

Sometimes it takes me a moment to get the Aussie poems and puns on the forum, until I do it in their accent and then it makes perfect sense!

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« Reply #75 on: May 19, 2017, 06:17:12 AM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

Makes more sense if it's spelled tuque.

Honestly, I'd never seen it spelled out before this.  I just knew how it sounded from watching SCTV years ago.


The differences in pronunciation by region is fascinating.  Watching Canadian TV, a few odd words jumped out and struck me as sounding weird: Mazda and pasta.  Mazda sounded like "maz-duh" (very nasal) instead of "maaahz-duh".  Pasta sounded similar - "passs-tuh" instead of "paah-stuh".  Otherwise, essentially the same as my area.  However, we've found going to college always brought out the comparisons of local pronunciation differences and local terminology among new friends from different areas.

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« Reply #76 on: May 19, 2017, 09:12:43 AM »

Toke is what you do with a joint


I just always thought that is what s/he was going for and spelled it wrong. Oops.

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« Reply #77 on: May 19, 2017, 11:56:49 AM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

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Note that the "k" in this is the sound the letter makes, a hard c sound, not "kay".

Dew + The first sound in cat.

Now change Dew to Two. That's a hat, apparently.

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« Reply #78 on: May 19, 2017, 12:04:55 PM »
The differences in pronunciation by region is fascinating.

Definitely!  Hanging out with someone from a different region is fun. We just hung out with some Canadians for a week, and the first dozen times we commented on pronunciation differences, but there were eventually so much we stopped, and just gave each other knowing glances ("you caught that too, right?" glances) when they said something that sounded interesting! I'm presuming they did the same when they heard our same-as-theirs-but-said-differently words.  :)

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« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2017, 01:50:45 PM »
I think it's like "fluke" (that's British English pronunciation of fluke, puke, duke etc) but of course with a Quebequois 'thing' that I don't have. Like... poutine and Gatineau and Montreal.

I'd never heard the word before coming to Canada.
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« Reply #80 on: May 19, 2017, 09:07:43 PM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

dew-k

Note that the "k" in this is the sound the letter makes, a hard c sound, not "kay".

Dew + The first sound in cat.

Now change Dew to Two. That's a hat, apparently.

He's not getting high (toking) cheaply, like rockstache and I thought.  :)

I say d-you, but do you say doo?

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« Reply #81 on: May 19, 2017, 09:21:47 PM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

dew-k

Note that the "k" in this is the sound the letter makes, a hard c sound, not "kay".

Dew + The first sound in cat.

Now change Dew to Two. That's a hat, apparently.

He's not getting high (toking) cheaply, like rockstache and I thought.  :)

I say d-you, but do you say doo?

You say d-you-k?

I say doo-k.  Rhymes with the name Luke. (Unless you say that l-you-k, or something?)
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« Reply #82 on: May 19, 2017, 09:50:51 PM »
Sorry to complicate things further, but I've been thinking about this and wondering how on earth you all pronounce "duke". No way does toque = 'dyook'.

dew-k

Note that the "k" in this is the sound the letter makes, a hard c sound, not "kay".

Dew + The first sound in cat.

Now change Dew to Two. That's a hat, apparently.

He's not getting high (toking) cheaply, like rockstache and I thought.  :)

I say d-you, but do you say doo?

You say d-you-k?

I say doo-k.  Rhymes with the name Luke. (Unless you say that l-you-k, or something?)

I say Luke just like you but with a British Australian accent. So sort of reserved but with a lazy tongue.

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« Reply #83 on: May 20, 2017, 07:04:07 AM »
I think it's like "fluke" (that's British English pronunciation of fluke, puke, duke etc) but of course with a Quebequois 'thing' that I don't have. Like... poutine and Gatineau and Montreal.

I'd never heard the word before coming to Canada.

Out of those 3 words - duke, fluke, puke - I notice that I pronounce one differently. Duke and fluke are "ook" but puke is "pyook" not "pook".

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« Reply #84 on: May 20, 2017, 12:14:32 PM »
I think it's like "fluke" (that's British English pronunciation of fluke, puke, duke etc) but of course with a Quebequois 'thing' that I don't have. Like... poutine and Gatineau and Montreal.

I'd never heard the word before coming to Canada.

Out of those 3 words - duke, fluke, puke - I notice that I pronounce one differently. Duke and fluke are "ook" but puke is "pyook" not "pook".
maybe the "oo" is a little bit flatter sound?  Like Rook?  So is it like duke, fluke, puke, or rook?
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« Reply #86 on: May 20, 2017, 06:29:39 PM »
I think it's like "fluke" (that's British English pronunciation of fluke, puke, duke etc) but of course with a Quebequois 'thing' that I don't have. Like... poutine and Gatineau and Montreal.

I'd never heard the word before coming to Canada.

Out of those 3 words - duke, fluke, puke - I notice that I pronounce one differently. Duke and fluke are "ook" but puke is "pyook" not "pook".
maybe the "oo" is a little bit flatter sound?  Like Rook?  So is it like duke, fluke, puke, or rook?

Rook sounds like look, not Luke.  But I do have to agree with Mmm_Donuts - puke is "pyook" rather than "pook".

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« Reply #87 on: May 21, 2017, 10:39:14 AM »
I think it's like "fluke" (that's British English pronunciation of fluke, puke, duke etc) but of course with a Quebequois 'thing' that I don't have. Like... poutine and Gatineau and Montreal.

I'd never heard the word before coming to Canada.

Out of those 3 words - duke, fluke, puke - I notice that I pronounce one differently. Duke and fluke are "ook" but puke is "pyook" not "pook".
maybe the "oo" is a little bit flatter sound?  Like Rook?  So is it like duke, fluke, puke, or rook?

Rook sounds like look, not Luke.  But I do have to agree with Mmm_Donuts - puke is "pyook" rather than "pook".

Duke should be dy-uke. Dew is more like jew than do.

In... neutral British English, that is. Somewhat neutral.

I mean, there are numerous American accents, hundreds? of British ones, and at least two Canadian (haha).
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