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« on: November 14, 2017, 02:59:45 PM »
I teach high school and I love it.

One interesting part of my job is "Homeroom Advisory", in which I have ten minutes three times/week to share life skills with my group of teens.

This week, the American Cancer Society came by and did a presentation for the whole school on e-cigarettes. Fascinating. I'm supposed to follow up with the kids this week.

To me, "Smoking is a stupid marketing trap that only people your age are naive enough to buy into. But it's perfect, because it's designed to separate people from their money for life, even when they're old enough to realize they've been hoodwinked" is a fantastic message for teens. Who's not going to get on board with that message?

I was thinking about other important things that everybody ought to be told as a teen. The MMM forums thread on MLMs comes to mind. I might anger some of the moms out there, but I'm thinking of working on a ten minute presentation about why MLMs are a horrible trap.

What else should all teens know? What other horrible traps can I warn them against?
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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2017, 03:24:43 PM »
The warnings about smoking/e-cigarettes are great. Young people just can't hear that enough. Same with caution around drugs and alcohol, especially in regards to binge drinking and drunk driving. I've spoken to different high school groups in the Every Fifteen Minutes program. Some do actually listen!

*Regarding MLM, I think I would put that as part of a discussion on financial security, FICO scores, economic traps to avoid like high interest loans of any type, spending more than you make, car leasing, etc. Obviously there's lots of ground to cover

*For teenage boys (and I'm the parent of one), learning to perform a self examination for testicular cancer. HPV vaccines.

*Can you discuss etiquette too much with young people? I don't think so. Touch on topics like proper hand held device use for both safety (driving) and common courtesy (no texting while at dinner). How about when to write a thank you note and how to actually do it?

You sound like a good and engaged teacher! Not sure if any of the jumble of what I've written is pertinent, but I do look forward to hearing what others write on this topic.

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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2017, 03:33:09 PM »
What to do after college- Not everyone wants/needs or is suited to going to college and getting a 4 year degree(or would use it even if they got it). Do you have students who are more hands on, who may do better in a vocational school for plumbing, welding, electrical, HVAC or something like that? Do you have any local schools or unions/groups that do internships/training in these fields? Can you have them come in and give a presentation? It never hurts to make people aware of all the options.
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« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 03:35:14 PM »
The TCO of life. Total Cost of Ownership. Pick any topic. Babies, cars, apartments, etc.

The value of knowing how to DIY stuff aka home ec topics (cooking for one or two), carpentry, auto mechanics, etc.

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 03:38:22 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 04:03:30 PM »
Taxes, witholding, etc. And how much of your gross income is taken up by them.

Ex: Gross annual salary = $50,000. What that actually means your take-home pay is. Broken down into how much you net per month.

Then out of that, how much you'll likely spend on health insurance, rent, etc.

Just kind of breaking things down so that their mindset is not, "Wow, someday I'll be making $50,000! I'll be freaking rich!"

Not to break their spirit early, but hopefully to help them have more respect for their pennies and dollars, and hopefully less likely to fling them out the window thinking they won't have to care about them when they have more money.
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 04:25:15 PM »
Dovetailing off of Joe's Total Cost of Ownership: Interest rates and payment plans. 

I run into this with 18 year old troops who can't understand that buying something hugely expensive is still hugely expensive even if the payments are chopped up, only that interest is usually in the equation making it even more expensive and tying down your money for years that can be impossible to get out of. This goes for TVs, cars, furniture, and gets progressively worse the longer the payments or the more consumable/shorter lifespan of the item.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 10:41:26 PM »
Don't pay interest on a depreciating asset.

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2017, 09:39:17 AM »
1.  The power of compounding.  Which will work against you just as quickly as it works for you.  Do you want to work to pay your wages to other people to cover stuff you already bought?  Or do you want to be the guy who provides the money and then gets paid by other people for the privilege?  And "saving" $100 at 1% is stupid if you owe $100 at 22% -- do the math, show them how much worse off they will be (this bleeds into opportunity costs, which is another important point).

1.a.  Just because you can cover a payment in your monthly budget does not mean you can "afford" something.

1.b.  If you don't have cash to pay for something now, what makes you think you'll have cash next week, or next month, when the CC bill comes due?  You have the same job, the same income, and now you're adding a new "thing" to make payments on + interest.

2.  To go along with that, basic building blocks of our economy -- a stock is a small piece of ownership of a company, and owning it gives you the right to a small percent of every dollar that company earns for the rest of its life.  Just for owning it.  A bond is lending someone money, and then they pay you back more just for the privilege of using your money.  Which circles back to 1:  do you want to be the guy sitting on a wad of cash, who can use it to buy businesses that will then give him more cash, or who can lend money to some guy who wants to buy a new phone right now?  Or do you want to be the one paying 20% more for a toy, just because you can't be bothered to save up the money first?

3.  Every single company has hired a bunch of smart, highly-educated people to try to convince you to buy stuff you don't need, because it's cool, or everyone has one, or your life will be so much easier, or you work hard and "deserve" it, or whatever.  Realize that they don't care about you -- their job is to separate you from as much of your money as they can.  They think you're dumb enough to fall for it.  It's your job to prove them wrong.

4.  Pay yourself first.  From day 1.  If you've never seen it, you won't miss it.  Added bonus that you'll have less money to hand over to advertisers.

5.  What taxes really are -- the money our government uses to provide the services and enforce the laws -- and what they are actually spent on.  E.g., people always seem to think that some ridiculous amount of money goes to foreign aid and the like.  Compare the government revenues to the budgets and the national debt, and ask them to consider whether we should cut spending to balance the budget/decrease the debt, and if so what they are going to take it from (once they see the "real" numbers).

6.  How to fill out a 1040EZ.

7.  The Shockingly Simple Math.  It is their choice to decide how long they want to work for The Man.  The less "stuff" they need, the sooner they can be free to do what interests them. 

8.  Take everything you think and feel with a grain of salt.  Talk about the recent science showing how the parts of the brain that control decisionmaking don't fully develop until @25.  Kids are brilliant and energetic and primed to fly off into the world and feel immortal, because that's exactly how your brain and hormones are supposed to make you feel at that age.  And strong emotions actually shut down the parts of the brain that think logically and can find the best solution.  Figure out some guardrails to impose on yourself to avoid doing something that could totally fuck up the rest of your life before you are old enough to know better.  Set some basic ground rules for yourself that you do not violate, ever (don't drive after drinking; always use a condom; don't mix mood-enhancing substances; don't bring a weapon to school; limit bad choices to one at a time (e.g., don't have sex while drunk or high), etc.).

9.  Everybody screws up sometime.  What will determine your success or failure is what you do next.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2017, 09:44:04 AM »
^^^ Following from this:

NEVER, EVER, EVER, just trust someone who tells you that you can afford something, unless YOU have done the math yourself.

Especially not people whose job it is to sell you that thing. (Mortgage brokers, I'm looking at you.)
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2017, 11:12:46 AM »
Making explicit the implicit messages of advertising. "If you buy this shampoo your hair will look better" is not an unreasonable claim to make. "If you buy this shampoo you will be more successful in your career and have more friends!" does not add up.

Total cost of ownership is an excellent one. What this means and what it covers - not just adding up all the monthly payments plus all the interest, but all the necessary maintenance costs plus all the necessary maintenance TIME.

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2017, 11:37:14 AM »
With a teenager in the house... a few things we keep trying to emphasize...

"Want" vs. "Need" 

Difference between "being rich" and "looking rich", and while this can go many ways, one of them is definitely the difference between owning something vs. buying on credit.

Very few things come easy.  Example: There are very, very few "get rich quick" ideas, and even some of those people (America's Got Talent, etc.) still had to do a lot of hard work and practice.

Who make the laws and decisions that affect them (President vs. Congress vs. Governor vs. State Senate vs. Mayor vs. City Council vs. School Board and so on).   For example, Who decides what time of the day school starts?  Who decides if their parents can add on to the house?  Who decides the speed limit?  Who decides the smoking/drinking age?  etc.



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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2017, 11:58:29 AM »
When I was in middle school, one of my teachers offered a series of lessons entitled "Critical Thinking." We were introduced (in a kid-friendly way) to concepts like how to see through media advertising messages and how group psychology worked. It was pretty unusual, in retrospect -- but honestly it was so valuable. It helped us develop mental armor in a world of peer pressure and consumerism.

Maybe you could develop a high-school level version?

Also, I really wish I had known, as a teenager, about savings and investments. Back then this seemed like something dudes wearing suits and Rolexes on Wall Street were involved in, that had zero relevance to my life.  Maybe explain how compound interest works (without getting too involved in directing students' own personal finances of course -- this could be more about simply explaining the system).
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 12:04:40 PM »
When I was in middle school, one of my teachers offered a series of lessons entitled "Critical Thinking." We were introduced (in a kid-friendly way) to concepts like how to see through media advertising messages and how group psychology worked. It was pretty unusual, in retrospect -- but honestly it was so valuable. It helped us develop mental armor in a world of peer pressure and consumerism.

There are several psychological studies that I have heard about as an adult that changed the way I think about people. Stuff like the one where smoke comes from underneath a waiting room door but everyone else is an actor and doesn't react so the one real participant doesn't either, and theoretically everybody burns to death. I still sometimes don't speak up if no one else is doing anything, but I am aware of it and I have stepped forward in situations since hearing about that study because I know what's really going on in my mind.

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2017, 12:28:57 PM »
How to invoke change, AKA you have agency over your own life. I'd give them an example that's close to home. Like how to change something about their school, or schedule. Many people continue to accept crappy situations because they don't realize they can change them. They just accept that someone in power above them calls the shots.

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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2017, 05:54:03 PM »
Mrs. Pete told about this one another thread:

Point out to high schoolers that getting married costs $35 (or the cost of a license.) The rest of it is just pomp, circumstances, and a party. No one needs to wait months or weeks or years to save money for a marriage, that is for a wedding.

Same for death ceremonies: cremation services cost about $650.00.  No one needs to spend $13,000 on a stupid funeral with all of the trimmings.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 06:36:13 PM »
Very seriously:  how to change a tire.  Boys AND girls.

How to cook at least 5 decent, nutritious, 'easy' dinners.

How to do laundry.

It would shock you how much of all that DH and I have had to teach 'full grown' adults.

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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 06:37:55 PM »
Finance-related:
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2017, 11:45:25 AM »
Protect your skin from the sun.  Seriously....I am well into middle age and if I could go back and change one thing I think it would be to keep the sun off my face!  I, and so many of my friends, have had various bits cut off for biopsy or frozen off, not to mention all the brown spots and wrinkles.  It is painful and expensive.  I started wearing hats and sunscreen about age 30, but my dermatologist told me we get almost all our sun damage before age 21 because we are outside so much. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 02:49:45 PM »
Great thread.

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« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2017, 07:52:09 AM »
Estimated monthly student loan repayments for tuition at an in-state 4 year university vs private 4 year university compared to monthly income for a handful of professions

My parents did this when I was in high school and it easily saved me $100,000. Like most high school students, I had no idea how high the monthly payments would actually be and just assumed that I wouldn't be granted the loan if the payments weren't affordable.

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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2017, 07:59:20 AM »
You know, if someone made all these suggestions into a youtube video with relevant explanations, graphs, etc, that would be an incredibly useful thing to have exist. Even for not-18-year-olds. Just in case some creative person out there is bored =)
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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2017, 08:03:39 AM »

 I'll cast another vote for Total Cost of Ownership as a great topic you can wrap up in a 10 minute package. OP has a brutal time limit for a lot of the topics mentioned.

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« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2017, 08:04:53 AM »
Estimated monthly student loan repayments for tuition at an in-state 4 year university vs private 4 year university compared to monthly income for a handful of professions

My parents did this when I was in high school and it easily saved me $100,000. Like most high school students, I had no idea how high the monthly payments would actually be and just assumed that I wouldn't be granted the loan if the payments weren't affordable.

This would be incredibly helpful. I was a first-generation college student, and I signed the loan docs with basically no sense of what I was getting myself into. Luckily, this was in the 80s, where $10,000 was a lot of loan money.
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« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2017, 08:20:16 AM »
Estimated monthly student loan repayments for tuition at an in-state 4 year university vs private 4 year university compared to monthly income for a handful of professions

My parents did this when I was in high school and it easily saved me $100,000. Like most high school students, I had no idea how high the monthly payments would actually be and just assumed that I wouldn't be granted the loan if the payments weren't affordable.

You beat me to it. I was going to suggest "Smart student loan usage." I get it that some students legitimately need loans to go to college, but nobody NEEDS to start out their adult life with the equivalent of a mortgage in student loan debt. It saddens me when I hear how students have taken on sooooo much debt. A high schooler or college student is simply not experienced enough to know how much $150,000 really is and how a debt like that will impact their life.

I work with a woman who borrowed $350,000 to get a PhD in some sort of business/consulting topic. She's between 45 and 50 now and still has about that amount of student loan debt. I would ballpark her salary between $125,000 and $150,000...definitely no more than that. She also has a very nice car and a nice (highly mortgaged) house. She will NEVER pay all that crap off...and forget about retiring early. Thinking about it makes me cringe.

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« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2017, 11:08:36 AM »
Just kind of breaking things down so that their mindset is not, "Wow, someday I'll be making $50,000! I'll be freaking rich!"

First salary job I had I was making $40,000 and would get paid twice a month, so I thought, 40,000/24 = $1,667. Wow! That's a lot of money every two weeks! Then my first paycheck arrived... cue me being Rachel - "Who is FICA and why does he get all my money?"

I have no idea how you'll fit all of this in in 10 mins, but a brief overview of how adult financials actually work... taxes on salary, 401k contributions, budgeting (fixed vs. variable expenses)...

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« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2017, 12:48:44 PM »
Just kind of breaking things down so that their mindset is not, "Wow, someday I'll be making $50,000! I'll be freaking rich!"

First salary job I had I was making $40,000 and would get paid twice a month, so I thought, 40,000/24 = $1,667. Wow! That's a lot of money every two weeks! Then my first paycheck arrived... cue me being Rachel - "Who is FICA and why does he get all my money?"

I have no idea how you'll fit all of this in in 10 mins, but a brief overview of how adult financials actually work... taxes on salary, 401k contributions, budgeting (fixed vs. variable expenses)...

Exactly. I'm pretty sure you're not alone in that. It's quite a wakeup call.
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« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2017, 03:41:10 PM »
Useful anecdote: For the price of my wife's student loans, I could buy a second house and a new car.

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« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2017, 06:20:46 PM »

 I'll cast another vote for Total Cost of Ownership as a great topic you can wrap up in a 10 minute package. OP has a brutal time limit for a lot of the topics mentioned.

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« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2017, 06:55:09 PM »
Possibly not the kind of thing you had in mind: but -- musculo-skeletal gross anatomy. How muscles move the body. I've never understood why we teach kids where their liver is -- which they can't move around, and will never need to know unless they're surgeons -- and not about the basic infrastructure that everybody uses every day to do everything they'll ever do, from talking to typing to walking around the block. I'm always having to explain the basics of human movement to clients. Things like, "yes, the powerhouse muscles when you bend over to pick something up off the floor are the glutes," and "yes, but when you picked up that pen you were also lifting eighty pounds of torso." We live in these bodies. They're home. We should know about them.

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« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2017, 05:08:35 AM »
It's not necessary to get married, but if you do, your choice of spouse likely impacts your daily quality of life more than any other decision you'll ever make.

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« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2017, 07:02:45 AM »
There's nothing wrong with finding, studying, and believing in a religion (or choosing not to).  There is something wrong with the idea that your path/approach/practice to spirituality should apply to others who don't see things the same way.

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« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2017, 07:22:10 AM »
You should take some time to explain how companies like to trap people by selling worthless "consumables" on a subscription basis. Instead of simply paying one price for an enduring asset and then keeping it for years and years, people are duped into paying a monthly fee for the item/goods and then end up paying three to four times to price for the item. An example of this would be the ridiculous "subscription box" bullshit that's everywhere right now.

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« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2017, 07:34:10 AM »
Love this list.  So much knowledge here!  I'm going to put something together for students.

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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2017, 08:08:49 AM »
Re: all the payments, interest, points. One of the most useful quotes I ever read was, "The poor ask how much it costs per month. The rich ask how much it costs." I try to always keep this in mind- know the total cost, interest and all.
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« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2017, 08:22:16 AM »
Possibly not the kind of thing you had in mind: but -- musculo-skeletal gross anatomy. How muscles move the body. I've never understood why we teach kids where their liver is -- which they can't move around, and will never need to know unless they're surgeons -- and not about the basic infrastructure that everybody uses every day to do everything they'll ever do, from talking to typing to walking around the block. I'm always having to explain the basics of human movement to clients. Things like, "yes, the powerhouse muscles when you bend over to pick something up off the floor are the glutes," and "yes, but when you picked up that pen you were also lifting eighty pounds of torso." We live in these bodies. They're home. We should know about them.

Our whole medical systems seems to be devoted to biochemical medicine and not the "physical". Besides pills are so much easier than actually doing your exercises/stretches/yoga :)


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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2017, 02:25:45 PM »
Do a series of ten minute workshops - one topic a day so you have and keep their attention.

Maybe also ask about people's thoughts and questions about the previous day's topic.

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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2017, 08:04:46 AM »
checkbook management
Personal finance

Someone told me that they don't teach that anymore.  I wouldn't know.

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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2017, 08:26:12 AM »
checkbook...

It won't be long before our youth ask "what's that?" 
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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2017, 08:36:24 AM »
checkbook...

It won't be long before our youth ask "what's that?"

In my life, I've used cheques for the following reasons:
- To give a landlord multiple months of rent (via postdated cheques)
- To give to my work so they can read the numbers on my account for direct deposit

That's it.

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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2017, 08:42:01 AM »
checkbook...

It won't be long before our youth ask "what's that?"

In my life, I've used cheques for the following reasons:
- To give a landlord multiple months of rent (via postdated cheques)
- To give to my work so they can read the numbers on my account for direct deposit

That's it.

The U.S. has held on to checks for WAY longer than most other "developed" countries. It's really, really weird.

They are finally sort of going away, though.
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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2017, 08:58:21 AM »
checkbook...

It won't be long before our youth ask "what's that?"

In my life, I've used cheques for the following reasons:
- To give a landlord multiple months of rent (via postdated cheques)
- To give to my work so they can read the numbers on my account for direct deposit

That's it.

I used maybe three this year.  I paid a cleaning service at my last residence because he didn't have a credit card scanner on hand, showed a new utility the voided check, and had to mail one yesterday for my son's school.  It kills me when I'm forced to re-order hundreds of checks just for those handful that I'll use.

I find the use of checks and fax machines to be on a similar death-spiral.
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Re: New Thread: "Stuff everybody ought to know" for high schoolers
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2017, 11:40:55 AM »
How to use a slow cooker to cook huge amounts of food with 10 minutes of preps with low effort and almost no chance of failure.
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