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Which of these organizations is the most awful/corrupt of the bunch?

NCAA
FIFA
IOC

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There have been some fun polls lately, so I thought I would add one that has come and gone within my friend group for years. Normally, there is an issue with recency bias as people will point to the one that has a current terrible thing/PR nightmare in the news, but with sports shut down for the moment, things are fairly quiet.

Curious to see people's votes and opinions (and maybe that will give me some more firepower for my vote).

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2020, 03:59:04 PM »
Got to be the NCAA.

IOC and FIFA may be bad, but at least they don’t force their athletes to be unpaid.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2020, 09:54:04 PM »
All of the above.

From a pure corruption standpoint it’s either FIFA or the IOC. They are crooked to the core.

The NCAA is unique though in their ability to let the major universities get nothing but a slap on the wrist for egregious violations, while dropping the hammer on smaller programs. And they don’t pay their athletes.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 06:04:29 AM »
I have to go with the IOC - FIFA and NCAA are pretty bad but they don't strongarm underdeveloped/economically struggling countries into spending absurd amounts of taxpayer money to host a glorified adult field day competition.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2020, 07:06:57 PM »
The NCAA hands down. They don’t pay their workers while profiting handsomely from college sports.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2020, 09:29:30 PM »
FIFA, along with their sub/regional underlings, especially UEFA and CAF.
Blatter the blithering bumblefuck.
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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2020, 10:28:30 PM »
In scope and money, I'm going with FIFA. Both FIFA and IOC are global, so everybody knows about them. Both FIFA and the NCAA rake in hordes of money. Since FIFA hits both those corruption targets so well, my vote is on them.

Key point, NCAA uses an unpaid labor force with rules and regulations in place to keep it that way for some absurd concept of amateurism.

Also, given that some cities outright campaign not to host the Olympics (check out Boston's anti-Olympic campaign), I think the IOC is tame in that department. (Whereas FIFA officials take bribes from countries to host the Men's World Cup.)

Even so, FIFA's 4 year revenue cycle is roughly $6.4 billion, the IOC's 4 year revenue is a surprising $5.7 billion, and the NCAA reports a paltry annual $1 billion.


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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2020, 07:28:55 AM »
I'm going with the IOC as the worst simply because they majorly screw over one city every other year while FIFA spreads out the screwing among an entire country, and the NCAA does so on an continual basis rather than intermittently.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2020, 07:42:02 AM »
The NCAA hands down. They don’t pay their workers while profiting handsomely from college sports.

Tack onto that their insufferably arrogant stance on how they're supportive of the athletes as students, and yet you could get away with the equivalent of academic murder - creating a whole department in a university to give athletes A's to make up for their D's and F's in other courses so they'll be eligible to play - with not even a slap on the wrist, but they'll try to punish you if you give a literally homeless student a place to stay.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2020, 09:55:43 AM »
The NCAA hands down. They don’t pay their workers while profiting handsomely from college sports.
i've often wondered why college athletes even have to bother with grades. i understand the concept of creating well rounded graduates but that hasn't been the case for a long time. why not just let them play their sport and get a degree later if they choose?

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2020, 10:05:27 AM »
The NCAA hands down. They don’t pay their workers while profiting handsomely from college sports.
i've often wondered why college athletes even have to bother with grades. i understand the concept of creating well rounded graduates but that hasn't been the case for a long time. why not just let them play their sport and get a degree later if they choose?

Short answer is that the NCAA lobbied to have "student-athletes" not covered under OSHA or otherwise be considered 'employees' under the argument that they were "student athletes".  By doing so they aren't entitled to any compensation if they get injured, they don't get paid and they don't get benefits. Likewise they can be aske to do things that you could not ask a normal employee to do, like get hit repeatedly by a 250lb linebacker or run until your joints become severely inflamed.  It's a monumental win for the employers university.  Basically being an athlete is 'part of their educational experience'

The trade-off) is that they need to maintain the qualifications of a full-time student... at least on paper.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2020, 10:29:34 AM »
The NCAA hands down. They don’t pay their workers while profiting handsomely from college sports.
i've often wondered why college athletes even have to bother with grades. i understand the concept of creating well rounded graduates but that hasn't been the case for a long time. why not just let them play their sport and get a degree later if they choose?

Short answer is that the NCAA lobbied to have "student-athletes" not covered under OSHA or otherwise be considered 'employees' under the argument that they were "student athletes".  By doing so they aren't entitled to any compensation if they get injured, they don't get paid and they don't get benefits. Likewise they can be aske to do things that you could not ask a normal employee to do, like get hit repeatedly by a 250lb linebacker or run until your joints become severely inflamed.  It's a monumental win for the employers university.  Basically being an athlete is 'part of their educational experience'

The trade-off) is that they need to maintain the qualifications of a full-time student... at least on paper.
they could still be students, just students of the game they play. they are obviously gifted athletes. just like phd students are gifted. if i'm working on my doctorate, they wouldn't make me pass a tennis class.

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Re: Most Corruprt/Awful Sports Organization: NCAA vs. IOC vs. FIFA
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2020, 10:46:02 AM »
The NCAA hands down. They don’t pay their workers while profiting handsomely from college sports.
i've often wondered why college athletes even have to bother with grades. i understand the concept of creating well rounded graduates but that hasn't been the case for a long time. why not just let them play their sport and get a degree later if they choose?

Short answer is that the NCAA lobbied to have "student-athletes" not covered under OSHA or otherwise be considered 'employees' under the argument that they were "student athletes".  By doing so they aren't entitled to any compensation if they get injured, they don't get paid and they don't get benefits. Likewise they can be aske to do things that you could not ask a normal employee to do, like get hit repeatedly by a 250lb linebacker or run until your joints become severely inflamed.  It's a monumental win for the employers university.  Basically being an athlete is 'part of their educational experience'

The trade-off) is that they need to maintain the qualifications of a full-time student... at least on paper.
they could still be students, just students of the game they play. they are obviously gifted athletes. just like phd students are gifted. if i'm working on my doctorate, they wouldn't make me pass a tennis class.

I mean, when you were an undergrad like they are, you had to take a number of courses unrelated to your area of study. It would not help the charade of the student-athlete label if they were able to 'graduate' from the university doing only sports related activities and courses and get the same degree as others.