- I don't know what version of the Old Testament you have at home, but I promise you it does not mention Christians.
You're completely right. I said 'Christian' when I guess I should have said 'Jew' since the old testament covers the period of time before the birth of Christ and therefore before Christians were a thing. :P Mea Culpa on that.
A couple comments here:
- I work in a city with a large practicing Muslim population. We often have people from various religions working together at our company, including Jewish and Muslim people. Given your analysis of the Koran commanding the death of Jews how would you explain this?
- According to the bible women are required to dress modestly and act meek/demure. It's illegal to masturbate. If you rape a woman, she must marry you. The Old Testament has several instances where it condones rape of women who are married to enemies of Christians, as well as murder of children. Yet, I'd say that very few of the Christans I've ever met believe in or practice what's listed in these extreme passages. Do you think it's because there's a level of interpretation that modern people put on ancient religious manuscripts? Do you believe that followers of Muslim faith are incapable of this for some reason?
I will answer these but that will be the end of my contribution to the topic, as this is quite OT and my original comment (which was backed up by primary sources, unlike every response) was only meant to correct a mistake by one poster and answer a question by another.
- I did not analyze the Quran in my comment above, I quoted it verbatim. I understand the quotes might be jarring to those who have practising Muslim friends or just a general liberal worldview who assume their peers are similar. Some Muslims kill, some don't. Some peform Hajj, some do not. Muslims, like any other group of humans, are not a monolith so I don't see why I would need to explain any subgroup of them behaving differently than their scripture suggests.
Since you seemed to have difficult finding the parts of the bible I was referring to, let me provide you with some verbatim quotations:
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you."
Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her."
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
“When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive’s garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.”
Judges 5:30
"They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera’s spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil."
Timothy 2:9
"Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire"
1 Peter 3:3
"Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear"
Deuteronomy 22:5
“A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God"
1 Corinthians 11:5-10
"But every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head. For a man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man."
1 Timothy 2:11
"Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness."
Now, I did not analyze the Bible in my comment above, I quoted it verbatim. I understand the quotes might be jarring to those who have practicing Christian friends or just a general liberal worldview who assume their peers are similar. Some Christians kill, some don't. Some worship on Sundays, some do not. Christians, like any other group of humans, are not a monolith so I don't see why I would need to explain any subgroup of them behaving differently than their scripture suggests.
I do not have time to educate on the differences between descriptive/prescriptive/prophesied violence in Old Testament/New Testament/Quran, if you are genuinely interested I recommend you start here, in which most information is properly sourced.
I'm afraid I do not have time to educate you as to why the website that you linked, produced and paid for by "EX-MUSLIMS OF NORTH AMERICA" - (
https://www.whois.com/whois/wikiislam.net) is not really a fair/unbiased source of information or interpretations regarding the Islamic religion.