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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2025, 01:44:39 PM »
Why white gold instead of silver? Doesn't white gold need a coating that eventually rubs off and tarnishes?
Silver is softer and it tarnishes. I have one white gold ring and I never have it re-dipped just like I never  have my platinum ring polished.

I don't own any white gold, but I read it tarnishes less. I'd prefer something lower maintenance. My ring is platinum too. I've only had it cleaned once and it's been almost 25 years. It still looks great and I wear it 24/7.

I don’t know that white gold tarnishes so much as it becomes creamy/cloud with the rodium wearing off.  But I haven’t really noticed a change after having it for 15 years.

I still prefer yellow gold for its no maintenance properties and it seems to be back in style.
I was surprised recently to see platinum is cheaper than gold.

Wow!  Platinum was the most expensive option for so long - my mother's engagement and wedding rings are platinum.

I like warm colours so yellow gold is great.  Rose gold is also pretty although I gather it is out of fashion right now?  My old Fitbit is rose gold and I like the colour.

Rose gold is always offered along with white gold and yellow gold. I see rose gold as a perpetually second choice after white or yellow gold.

It’s funny that the ring I’m most contemplating right now will be in Rose

Gold is trading for around $2650 an ounce while platinum is trading for $960 ounce these days.

Rose gold is a bit less "goes with everything" than yellow gold, so it will never be as generally popular. 

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2025, 07:44:06 PM »
My wife's engagement ring is a semi-mustachian (as precious metals and gems go) example of the phenomenon.  It seemed ridiculous to pay so much money and support horrible working conditions when we could get a 'superior' gem elsewhere.  She wanted a ruby in a platinum setting.  I was able to find an old platinum solitaire setting on Ebay for $500, which was the scrap price for the weight of metal, and a 2 carat marquise Chatham ruby for $350.  A jeweler got the stone set in the prongs, and then later made a matching wedding band to go with it.  Overall, I think about $1,200 for a very memorable item.
This is pretty similar to my ring's origins.  I took a (science) class on gemstones in college so I was pretty interested in the different properties of gemstones.  But, like most of my class, I hated mined diamonds because of the slavery and also didn't want that much spent on a ring, even if I wore it every day.  So DH got it from a pawn shop.  It's smaller, but I told him I wanted that, since I use my hands a lot, and not carefully.  Mine is also a marquise, though it's sapphire.  I absolutely love it and feel no guilt at all from it.

But yeah, I'm solidly a millennial, and even when lab diamonds were just as expensive, everyone I talked to that wanted a diamond preferred those over a mined one.  To me at least, this isn't a new trend.  But most of my college friends took that gemstones class as a group for fun, so we may be outliers.

Also, that's cool that platinum is dropping in cost, I always liked it, and that's good for the industrial uses of it too.  Or is gold just surging?

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2025, 05:19:58 AM »
Always wanted to get my spouse some nice diamond earrings, but balked at the price tag.

For Xmas this year, I found 1 total ct weight diamond earrings (lab grown) for $350. Macys & Kay's Jewelers was showing regular prices of ~ $2500 for the same thing (sale prices of ~$1200). My Gen-X spouse was thrilled and especially happy that no one had to labor in a mine to get them. Now I don't have to buy jewelry for another 15 years (again!)

Where did you find that deal?

I had forgotten, but it was actually through Amazon.
They have .5 cttw to 8 cttw. The 1 cttw earrings are currently $330 before tax.

Here's an amazon link: https://amzn.to/4jyJuE3
I added my affiliate code to the link- you don't pay more, but they give me a tiny percent. If you're not cool with that, search for Diamond Channel Store.

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2025, 07:57:18 AM »
I updated my post from 1/24 with a pic.


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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2025, 07:12:18 AM »
Why white gold instead of silver? Doesn't white gold need a coating that eventually rubs off and tarnishes?
Silver is softer and it tarnishes. I have one white gold ring and I never have it re-dipped just like I never  have my platinum ring polished.

I don't own any white gold, but I read it tarnishes less. I'd prefer something lower maintenance. My ring is platinum too. I've only had it cleaned once and it's been almost 25 years. It still looks great and I wear it 24/7.

I have a 100 year old platinum family ring that is dull like pewter. I didn’t even know you could polish platinum until someone told me. So, I had it polished and that was nice, but it soon reverted back to its pewter-like finish. And that’s ok with me, I’ll leave it this way.

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2025, 10:16:45 AM »
Why white gold instead of silver? Doesn't white gold need a coating that eventually rubs off and tarnishes?
Silver is softer and it tarnishes. I have one white gold ring and I never have it re-dipped just like I never  have my platinum ring polished.

I don't own any white gold, but I read it tarnishes less. I'd prefer something lower maintenance. My ring is platinum too. I've only had it cleaned once and it's been almost 25 years. It still looks great and I wear it 24/7.

I have a 100 year old platinum family ring that is dull like pewter. I didn’t even know you could polish platinum until someone told me. So, I had it polished and that was nice, but it soon reverted back to its pewter-like finish. And that’s ok with me, I’ll leave it this way.

My Mom's ring is old and the platinum looks fine.  There may be different alloys?

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2025, 11:06:35 AM »
As someone who loves natural gemstones and mineral specimens, yes I put a higher value on natural gemstones, bc the history of the stone and it's uniqueness is part of the enjoyment. I was late getting interested in diamonds bc to me they seemed more generic and boring. Also while impurities and inclusions can actually increase the interest and value of a gemstone (classic example is horsetail inclusions in demantoid garnets) in contrast the colorless and less inclusion the more valuable the diamond. So there is less barrier for lab or synthetic diamonds to replace mined diamonds, as uniqueness is not as important as clarity. The one area that natural diamonds may be superior, is they may be more likely to have higher cut quality? I am guessing natural diamonds have some of the worst (bc trying to retain weight) but also the best (bc the customer demands it) cut quality. And above a certain clarity and color, cut quality has a huge factor on the visual appeal of the stone. I think lab diamonds can make even more inroads by making custom colors, improving the cut quality, and increasing the types of cut patterns available.
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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2025, 11:23:31 AM »
Why white gold instead of silver? Doesn't white gold need a coating that eventually rubs off and tarnishes?
Silver is softer and it tarnishes. I have one white gold ring and I never have it re-dipped just like I never  have my platinum ring polished.

I don't own any white gold, but I read it tarnishes less. I'd prefer something lower maintenance. My ring is platinum too. I've only had it cleaned once and it's been almost 25 years. It still looks great and I wear it 24/7.

I have a 100 year old platinum family ring that is dull like pewter. I didn’t even know you could polish platinum until someone told me. So, I had it polished and that was nice, but it soon reverted back to its pewter-like finish. And that’s ok with me, I’ll leave it this way.

My Mom's ring is old and the platinum looks fine.  There may be different alloys?

Mine is from 1918, I know the exact date because I know when the great aunt got married. Is your ring actually shiney?

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2025, 11:26:46 AM »
I ordered a huge (about 2.5 c) lab pink diamond. We shall see how it looks when it gets here. Paid $1,000 ‘cause I'm sure you all want to know that! Haha.

You can get colorless stones much cheaper.

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2025, 12:17:43 PM »
Why white gold instead of silver? Doesn't white gold need a coating that eventually rubs off and tarnishes?
Silver is softer and it tarnishes. I have one white gold ring and I never have it re-dipped just like I never  have my platinum ring polished.

I don't own any white gold, but I read it tarnishes less. I'd prefer something lower maintenance. My ring is platinum too. I've only had it cleaned once and it's been almost 25 years. It still looks great and I wear it 24/7.

I have a 100 year old platinum family ring that is dull like pewter. I didn’t even know you could polish platinum until someone told me. So, I had it polished and that was nice, but it soon reverted back to its pewter-like finish. And that’s ok with me, I’ll leave it this way.

My Mom's ring is old and the platinum looks fine.  There may be different alloys?

Mine is from 1918, I know the exact date because I know when the great aunt got married. Is your ring actually shiney?

Mine is newer, late 1940s.  I wouldn't say it is super shiny, but it has a gloss.  Definitely a silver colour.  Hmm, at this point I am not sure if the whole ring is platinum, or just the prongs and the rest is white gold.  No-one around to ask though.  But no look of tarnish anywhere.  Hasn't been cleaned for decades (or worn, either).

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2025, 12:40:38 PM »
Silver “tarnishes” i.e. turns black.

The “tarnish “of white gold doesn’t turn black. From what I’ve read, it becomes creamy in color.


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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2025, 01:00:21 PM »
Silver “tarnishes” i.e. turns black.

The “tarnish “of white gold doesn’t turn black. From what I’ve read, it becomes creamy in color.
there's not one white gold but many different recipes. Some are warmer than others.

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2025, 01:51:14 PM »
I ordered a huge (about 2.5 c) lab pink diamond. We shall see how it looks when it gets here. Paid $1,000 ‘cause I'm sure you all want to know that! Haha.

You can get colorless stones much cheaper.

That sounds pretty! I'm curious how it looks.

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Re: Lab diamonds
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2025, 03:39:11 AM »
Why white gold instead of silver? Doesn't white gold need a coating that eventually rubs off and tarnishes?
Silver is softer and it tarnishes. I have one white gold ring and I never have it re-dipped just like I never  have my platinum ring polished.

I don't own any white gold, but I read it tarnishes less. I'd prefer something lower maintenance. My ring is platinum too. I've only had it cleaned once and it's been almost 25 years. It still looks great and I wear it 24/7.

I have a 100 year old platinum family ring that is dull like pewter. I didn’t even know you could polish platinum until someone told me. So, I had it polished and that was nice, but it soon reverted back to its pewter-like finish. And that’s ok with me, I’ll leave it this way.

My Mom's ring is old and the platinum looks fine.  There may be different alloys?

Mine is from 1918, I know the exact date because I know when the great aunt got married. Is your ring actually shiney?

Mine is newer, late 1940s.  I wouldn't say it is super shiny, but it has a gloss.  Definitely a silver colour.  Hmm, at this point I am not sure if the whole ring is platinum, or just the prongs and the rest is white gold.  No-one around to ask though.  But no look of tarnish anywhere.  Hasn't been cleaned for decades (or worn, either).

Platinum doesn't get what you would think of as "tarnish," it gets what's called a "patina." If you google "platinum patina" it's easy to see how it differs from white gold.

White gold wear is very different. White gold isn't actually white, it's light yellow because it's regular yellow gold mixed with another white metal. The higher quality the white gold, the yellower it is because of the higher gold content. It's often plated with rhodium to make it look white, but the plating wears off over time and the yellow shows through in the most worn spots, like the band on the underside.

This wear and yellowing is often referred to as "warming" as the colour goes from cooler silver to a warmer light yellow. Some people like the warming effect, others get their rings re-dipped in rhodium every few years.

https://guides.alamodeonline.com/2020/01/19/what-is-white-gold-how-can-gold-be-white/