Is cooking spray food?

[APowers]

I am also highly enjoying this thread.

You're welcome. :)

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

What rational person could argue that Graham crackers are actually crackers is what I want to know. I feel this isn't even possible to argue in good faith :).

[I'm a red panda]

What rational person could argue that Graham crackers are actually crackers is what I want to know. I feel this isn't even possible to argue in good faith :).

What else would they be? They certainly aren't a cookie.

[MDfive21]

What rational person could argue that Graham crackers are actually crackers is what I want to know. I feel this isn't even possible to argue in good faith :).

What else would they be? They certainly aren't a cookie.

they are absolutely crackers.  sweet ones.  that's allowed.

[GuitarStv]

What rational person could argue that Graham crackers are actually crackers is what I want to know. I feel this isn't even possible to argue in good faith :).

What else would they be? They certainly aren't a cookie.

they are absolutely crackers.  sweet ones.  that's allowed.

Sweet crackers do not exist.  The word you're looking for is 'cookie'.

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

What rational person could argue that Graham crackers are actually crackers is what I want to know. I feel this isn't even possible to argue in good faith :).

What else would they be? They certainly aren't a cookie.

they are absolutely crackers.  sweet ones.  that's allowed.

I'm just saying...I've got some young kids and this feels like one of their arguments to get graham crackers without eating their dinners.....

[I'm a red panda]

What rational person could argue that Graham crackers are actually crackers is what I want to know. I feel this isn't even possible to argue in good faith :).

What else would they be? They certainly aren't a cookie.

they are absolutely crackers.  sweet ones.  that's allowed.

I'm just saying...I've got some young kids and this feels like one of their arguments to get graham crackers without eating their dinners.....

That's silly. It's a cracker (Merriam Webster: a dry thin crispy baked bread product that may be leavened or unleavened)
Still doesn't mean you get it before dinner.

That would be like argueing you can have key lime pie for dinner because the original plan was steak and kidney pie and they are both pies.

[ketchup]

It's food.  A gallon of cooking oil would be considered food by any reasonable person.  This is just a smaller amount, and packaged differently.  You still eat it.

At least nobody is saying that a hot dog is a sandwich.

[sol]

At least nobody is saying that a hot dog is a sandwich.

You didn't read very carefully.

[Poundwise]

What, nobody here likes to spray Pam on their (graham) crackers like I do? Better than cheese in a can!

I definitely budget Pam as a grocery expense, along with spices and baking supplies, toothpicks and napkins and so on. I have no "food" category.

[nereo]

What, nobody here likes to spray Pam on their (graham) crackers like I do? Better than cheese in a can!

I definitely budget Pam as a grocery expense, along with spices and baking supplies, toothpicks and napkins and so on. I have no "food" category.

How many toothpicks does one need to buy?  I have a box of 1,000count that I'm pretty sure I've moved three time and probably cost me <$5 circa 2010.  Maybe you use them more frequently?

[Poundwise]

Our toothpicks are variously used as cake testers, for sticking into melon cubes, crafts, or for making "pig in blanket" type appetizers,  seldom for picking teeth. A true Mustachian would not only wash and reuse them, but would whittle them out of twigs or pick them up at yard sales.

[Prairie Stash]

At least nobody is saying that a hot dog is a sandwich.

You didn't read very carefully.

I skipped it because you tried to say Pop-Tarts are Ravioli, obviously you're insane.

Evolution teaches us that a pop tart is an evolved form of pastry. Ravioli, while similiar is strucutre is an evolved form of pasta. As Darwin points out you can have multiple evolutionary tracks and arrive at similiar forms; for example a Dolphin might look like a fish but it's not.

However, I agree on the hot dog fitting the sandwich definition. It passes the Earl of Sandwich test, can you gamble with one hand while eating it with the other. Any true sandwich must pass the test; if you can't go all in while masticating, its not a sandwich.

[Wolfpack Mustachian]

I just have to say, before this thread I thought the people of this forum were mostly rational, competent people. Now.... I'm not so sure. That being said, I'm down with hot dogs being a sandwich mainly because... What else would they be?

[Alternatepriorities]

Just to be clear here...

You are buying cooking oil a few oz at a time, for the price of a couple of gallons, in a metal aerosol can full of fossil fuel derived propellants.


But your question is whether you are filing it in the right column in your expense spreadsheet?

An excellent point. As most of the “value” in a can of Pam is in the non edible part of the product you’re paying for convenience rather than a food. As mustachians maybe we should all have a section of our budgets labeled “convince” to remind ourselves what we’re really spending the money on.

My brother is currently hiking the Pacific Crest Trail while drinking oil (mostly olive and coconut) as significant portion of his daily calories. Assuming he makes it to Canada I submit that as conclusive proof that oil is actual a food and not just a grocery expense. Twice as many calories per ounce as pure sugar...

[solon]

[Kwill]

I think I would count it as food if I separated out expenses that carefully and if I used cooking spray. The main reason for counting it as food would be that its function is to replace ordinary oil in cooking. Currently, I pour a little canola oil in my frying pan every morning to fry eggs. That seems clearly food rather than supplies or equipment because I also sometimes use it in baking or other recipes. If I switched to cooking spray for the morning eggs, then I would use less canola oil, so I would want to have them in the same budget category to be able to see trends over time before and after the switch.

[former player]

Just to be clear here...

You are buying cooking oil a few oz at a time, for the price of a couple of gallons, in a metal aerosol can full of fossil fuel derived propellants.


But your question is whether you are filing it in the right column in your expense spreadsheet?

An excellent point. As most of the “value” in a can of Pam is in the non edible part of the product you’re paying for convenience rather than a food. As mustachians maybe we should all have a section of our budgets labeled “convince” to remind ourselves what we’re really spending the money on.

(with apologies to a well-known journaller for borrowing an idea)

Perhaps there should be a budget line for "environmental sins"?