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Other => Off Topic => Topic started by: Omy on March 29, 2022, 05:01:59 PM
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I'm 59 and eligible, but I just got the last booster 4 months ago. I really don't want to be doing this every 4 months (I had a crappy reaction to Moderna#2 and a less crappy reaction to Moderna booster#1).
I'd love to see data on how much a 2nd booster actually helps, but that's probably months away. I'd also like to have an omicron-based booster instead of getting a 4th dose of the same old thing (also months away).
What are your thoughts?
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I'm almost 53 and eligible now. My reactions have been getting worse, which I view positively as a good immune response. But I am also not in much of a hurry for lots of reasons.
The vaccine manufacturers should provide data from studies on a second booster to the CDC in the approval process. I don't know how understandable to us laypeople it may be.
I don't need an Omicron-specific booster, although I wouldn't mind one. My understanding is that the spike protein that the two main mRNA vaccines target remains unchanged enough across variants that the immune system should recognize the actual virus whether it's an Omicron or an Alpha. That's the theory anyway.
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I’ll get mine as soon as I can.
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My husband will be eligible next month. He plans on getting one although he may wait a little to see how the next surge plays out.
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I haven’t had any real reaction to any of the three Pfizer shots I’ve had (a slightly sore arm for a day, at most) so there’s no downside.
I’m going to wait for an uptick in cases, though, because I don’t want to waste my most resistant time when the trend is still going down.
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They’ve made people eligible here in Australia too, and our government will be paying for it, as they’ve paid for the other shots. I’ll be getting it as soon as I can. Winter is coming, and the omicron variant has started to surge.
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I’m 62, and somewhat higher risk. Jury duty in 2 weeks, and then I’m flying to NY for a funeral 2 weeks after that (with many higher risk elderly relatives).
Strongly considering a 2nd booster, especially since I got the J&J first.
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Yes, and yes.
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Not eligible yet, but will be getting it. I hope that this all normalizes to a point that it will be integrated into the annual flu shot that I get, but until then, yes, boost away.
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I'm fence sitting. I will get one eventually, but I'm hoping to hold out until fall, or at least until another big surge breaks out. I'd really rather get this going seasonally instead of every few months. I'm also waiting/hoping for something new. Either a variant specific vaccine or if something else gets developed. I think there's diminishing returns in just taking the same thing over and over.
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There is talk a nasal spray vaccine will be out soon. I would get that, it means my first line defences would be primed. In the meantime I keep wearing my N95.
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Yes.
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Yes, probably in May which will be 6 months after my first booster shot.
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Nope, Putin cured Covid.
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Probably, but i need to talk to my doctor. Either my last shot or my probably-Covid illness that happened a week and a half after the shot (or the combo of both) triggered some nasty dermatographia which has just mostly subsided about 3.5 months later. I need to hear Dr.'s thoughts on it, but if she gives me the go-ahead, I will get it.
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Yes, probably in May which will be 6 months after my first booster shot.
Yeah, May for us too, b/c we got covid at the New Year's, so should be good to go for a while, and waiting until May should keep us boosted through summer travel.
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Probably. Not right away.
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Yes, as soon as eligible. All evidence indicates the protective effects wear off over time. I'm also looking for clinical trials for boosters if I can make some $ from it.
Unfortunately kids always seem to be last in line because of the way clinical trials work.
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There would have to be a more compelling reason than what currently exists
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Yeah, as soon as my SO and I are eligible. Since my mom can't get vaccinated, I'm looking to boost my own immunity to protect her.
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Already have.
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Well, someone in my household has tested positive today, so maybe that ship has already sailed for us. LOL
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I may get one once I’m eligible, depending on the rates here and the variant circulating at that time. I’m only 2 months out from the first booster, so I’ll see where things stand in another few months. Hopefully can wait until fall.
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Yup. ASAP.
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Probably, but i need to talk to my doctor. Either my last shot or my probably-Covid illness that happened a week and a half after the shot (or the combo of both) triggered some nasty dermatographia which has just mostly subsided about 3.5 months later. I need to hear Dr.'s thoughts on it, but if she gives me the go-ahead, I will get it.
I had to look that up. Weird! I got a very bad whole body rash after my booster that hasn't gone away yet. That was 5 months ago so I figure it probably triggered some kind of autoimmune response. Will get the second booster shot though but will go with Moderna, which I had for my first 2 shots with little reaction except a big red welts at the injection site, rather the Pfizer which I had for my booster in Nov.
I have ongoing autoimmune skin problems, and the vaccines/booster did cause little flare ups that went away after a couple weeks. Actually HAVING Covid also caused a flare up, but thankfully it also went away after a couple weeks.
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Probably, but i need to talk to my doctor. Either my last shot or my probably-Covid illness that happened a week and a half after the shot (or the combo of both) triggered some nasty dermatographia which has just mostly subsided about 3.5 months later. I need to hear Dr.'s thoughts on it, but if she gives me the go-ahead, I will get it.
I had to look that up. Weird! I got a very bad whole body rash after my booster that hasn't gone away yet. That was 5 months ago so I figure it probably triggered some kind of autoimmune response. Will get the second booster shot though but will go with Moderna, which I had for my first 2 shots with little reaction except a big red welts at the injection site, rather the Pfizer which I had for my booster in Nov.
I treated mine (and yes, it is a very, very weird thing!) with a daily Zyrtec and Quercetin supplement (which supposedly helps with inflammation and was recommended by my doc). That might give you some relief if you want to try it.
I had Moderna for all 3. First two were fine (a day of feeling sort of shitty, each). But I got the booster, then got sick about a week and a half later (didn't test, but best guess is Covid) and the rash/hives started a few days after that, at the tail end of the illness. So it could have been the shot, or the illness, or I suppose the combo of both.
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I'll probably get it. We're heading to Europe in June, so maybe I'll wait until a couple of weeks before we leave the US.
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I will wait to see if there's another flareup of Covid before I get a boost. I got the booster in December, then a family member got Covid, we could not isolate, but fortunately nobody who was boosted in the household ever tested negative or even felt ill.
So I would guess that I'm topped off for a while. I would feel happier if the next booster is customized to whatever variant is causing trouble at the time, rather than the same that we've been getting.
A friend of mine has had (verified) Covid THREE times! She did get vaccinated after the second time, but then got a mild breakthrough case anyway. Fortunately, she's relatively young.
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After the first booster I got a rash on my arm that took several weeks to go away. Will wait on the second booster.
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I had Pfizer all three times, administered by the hospital that's the beneficiary of the Thrift Shop where I volunteer. I'll get the booster as soon as they offer it, just like the last three. Hopefully next week.
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Eventually, but not immediately. I'm eligible. My booster was in November, so I'm eligible now or soon.
A couple of things:
- Early data shows that the 2nd booster loses effectiveness after about 4 weeks. Right now our cases are low, so I'm in no hurry to get re-boostered. My 9 yo was recently vaccinated (December/Jan) and the 16 yo was boosted (Jan?)
- There is always work being done on different versions that might be more effective against new/ current variants.
In any event, we are planning to fly to visit (elderly/immunocompromised) family in June/July, so I'll probably wait to get the 2nd booster until either:
1. Early/mid June or
2. Our cases start increasing
...whichever comes first.
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Yes, as soon as I become eligible.
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I am eligible but last shot got bursitis or tendonitis, then I had Covid in December so that’s like a booster also. I am going to wait a little longer and just continue to wear a mask.
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I’m eligible but am holding off a bit on a second booster. So far all of my jabs have been Moderna and I had an extremely strong response to dose 2 and the first booster. Have not had Covid to my knowledge. I’m going to wait until there’s more evidence the second booster is warranted and may go with Pfizer next time around to see if my reaction is less severe.
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All 3 Pfizer shots made me very sick for 4 days. I am 6 months past my first booster but will wait until fall. I am 67 but take good care of myself and am not overweight although I do have asthma and HBP.
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I am hoping to be able to get a 2nd booster during my 3rd trimester of pregnancy, both to protect the newborn after birth and to hopefully reduce the chances that I would personally test positive and fuck up my delivery/be isolated from my baby. Right now I have not heard of them offering second boosters to pregnant people but a girl can dream!
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I got my second booster a few days ago (all shots Pfizer). I could not see any good reason not to. I had one day of flu-like symptoms and all is good now. It was 5 months between the first and second boosters.
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My second booster was the first time I had very few symptoms. Sore arm and very low fever for a few hours, and done. Moderna for 2nd booster.
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I am hoping to be able to get a 2nd booster during my 3rd trimester of pregnancy, both to protect the newborn after birth and to hopefully reduce the chances that I would personally test positive and fuck up my delivery/be isolated from my baby. Right now I have not heard of them offering second boosters to pregnant people but a girl can dream!
Are hospitals seriously isolating newborns from their mothers because of positive covid tests?
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I am hoping to be able to get a 2nd booster during my 3rd trimester of pregnancy, both to protect the newborn after birth and to hopefully reduce the chances that I would personally test positive and fuck up my delivery/be isolated from my baby. Right now I have not heard of them offering second boosters to pregnant people but a girl can dream!
Are hospitals seriously isolating newborns from their mothers because of positive covid tests?
If your baby is in the NICU you will not be able to visit them if you have covid. Because I am a 41-year-old IVF patient, my chance of having a NICU baby is not, like, zero. If your baby is not in the NICU they can stay in your room but you are encouraged to keep a six-foot distance whenever you are not actively caring for the baby.
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I am hoping to be able to get a 2nd booster during my 3rd trimester of pregnancy, both to protect the newborn after birth and to hopefully reduce the chances that I would personally test positive and fuck up my delivery/be isolated from my baby. Right now I have not heard of them offering second boosters to pregnant people but a girl can dream!
Are hospitals seriously isolating newborns from their mothers because of positive covid tests?
If your baby is in the NICU you will not be able to visit them if you have covid. Because I am a 41-year-old IVF patient, my chance of having a NICU baby is not, like, zero. If your baby is not in the NICU they can stay in your room but you are encouraged to keep a six-foot distance whenever you are not actively caring for the baby.
I'm not sure that I understand the 6ft distance. Distancing outside makes some sense, as covid can be spread through droplets if people are speaking and spitting, or if they blast away with a sneeze or something. But I thought the concern indoors was that covid is aerosolized and hangs around in any room that someone who has it happens to be in. Being 6 ft away from a baby isn't going to help on that front, is it?
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I am hoping to be able to get a 2nd booster during my 3rd trimester of pregnancy, both to protect the newborn after birth and to hopefully reduce the chances that I would personally test positive and fuck up my delivery/be isolated from my baby. Right now I have not heard of them offering second boosters to pregnant people but a girl can dream!
Are hospitals seriously isolating newborns from their mothers because of positive covid tests?
If your baby is in the NICU you will not be able to visit them if you have covid. Because I am a 41-year-old IVF patient, my chance of having a NICU baby is not, like, zero. If your baby is not in the NICU they can stay in your room but you are encouraged to keep a six-foot distance whenever you are not actively caring for the baby.
I'm not sure that I understand the 6ft distance. Distancing outside makes some sense, as covid can be spread through droplets if people are speaking and spitting, or if they blast away with a sneeze or something. But I thought the concern indoors was that covid is aerosolized and hangs around in any room that someone who has it happens to be in. Being 6 ft away from a baby isn't going to help on that front, is it?
Depends on the ventilation. Aerosol transmission doesn't seem to be super common. I would guess hospitals have good ventilation?
My point is, all other things being equal, a hospital stay for childbirth with covid sounds less good than a hospital stay for childbirth WITHOUT covid.
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Noooooooooooo! I had the booster in December. Had COVID in February. 80-somthing parents had the booster last fall, they both have COVID now. Due to their age, they were able to get the monoclonal antibodies yesterday (interestingly enough, the hospital didn't test them for covid, just took their word for it).
Am not planning to get the booster unless required for travel. Or if there is a more deadly variant AND the vaccine has been modified to address those specific variants. I do not like some side effects I had from the first shots.
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My wife and I are eligible in about a month and will be getting it. We got Pfizer and had little to no reaction on any of them so far.
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I had been on the fence about getting it now vs waiting, since we are on the brink of warm weather and hopefully dropping numbers.
Local numbers are on the upswing, and suddenly I'm hearing about people I know getting Covid (my brother and his wife) or getting exposed (my daughter and her spouse, his brother and girlfriend have Covid).
So DH and I got our boosters this week.
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I've had 3 shots (Pfizer 1, 2, and booster). I am done. I know a bunch of people who got all fancy free after their vaccines and many of them got the Corona anyway. There would have to be a really good reason for me to get a 4th shot at this point. I'm not going to keep blindly pumping that into my arm, particularly since 99% of the time I'm working at home and I don't go anywhere, no concerns, no restaurants, no travel, etc...
My own personal opinion.
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The covid shots seem to work for about 6-8 months, after which their effectiveness drops off pretty dramatically. That's why there was a first booster, and why there is not another booster - and it's also likely a contributing factor to the high infection rate of 'fully vaccinated' people. Seems like 'fully vaccinated' has a shorter shelf life than originally expected.
So I figure I'll keep getting boosters when offered until there's a better option. Seems like the safest option.
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What are your thoughts about mixing and matching? My first 3 were Moderna (#2 made me sick for 3 days, #3 made me sick for 24 hours). I'm thinking about Pfizer for number 4, but DH thinks we should stick with Moderna since it seems to be working.
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What are your thoughts about mixing and matching? My first 3 were Moderna (#2 made me sick for 3 days, #3 made me sick for 24 hours). I'm thinking about Pfizer for number 4, but DH thinks we should stick with Moderna since it seems to be working.
No idea. Everything that I've read indicates no concerns mixing Moderna/Pfizer, and some studies seem to indicate that mixing of vaccines might offer slightly better immune response. FWIW, I've ended up with a mixer pack . . . with a shot of Astra-Zeneca, a shot of Pfizer, and a shot of Moderna. That's all that was available each time I went.
The AZ shot made me feel the worst (for about a day or so). My wife though had two weeks of pretty bad migraines after the AZ shot that her doctor said was likely some sort of reaction to the vaccine and recommended getting a different one for her going forward. Neither of us had any real problems with Moderna or Pfizer.
There have been enough people vaccinated and boosted, that safety data is now pretty well known so I'm feeling more confident on that front.
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@Omy, I’ve seriously considered switching from Moderna to Pfizer for my second booster, specifically because of the strong reaction I’ve had to the last two Pfizer doses.
I’m early 50s and don’t have any underlying conditions, so I may even wait a bit longer to get another booster. I’m hearing more & more that they aren’t sure a second booster provides much benefit, except for the elderly or very high risk individuals. This is keeping me from making a decision to go right out & get the next dose.
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we got our second booster last week. i felt a little sore the next day but it was no big deal. we're heading to nyc next week so we wanted to be up to date.
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I got Pfizer the first and second time but chose Modena for the third time. I got really tired after the Pfizer shorts so I chose to take the Modena the third time as I could chose. According to the nurses there was no problem to mix. I didn’t have any problems with it. I will continue taking boosters every time I can.
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We just booked a trip to the UK for June. So I’ll get the booster a few weeks before the trip for maximum oomph.
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Just got my second booster this week. Pfizer for all. Like others, my only side effects were a sore arm.
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We ended up sticking with Moderna for all 4 shots. Arm hurt for 36 hours and I felt like I was coming down with something...but ibuprofen smoothed out the rough edges. I'm glad we boosted again since everybody we know seems to have covid at the moment.
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Earlier in this thread I'd posted that we'd get our fourth shot as soon as it was available, but we changed our minds after the data came out about it only really boosting antibodies for 2-3 months. Now we're holding off until probably mid to late July, b/c of potential for late summer/fall travel and some big conferences that my husband is considering attending.
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I got my fourth shot as soon as possible, in late April. My mother, who lives 7.5 hours drive away, and is 91 also got hers at about the same time. Three weeks ago, she got covid19, so none of the carers she has could visit. I went there to look after her on the day she tested positive. I did take precautions - kept all the doors and windows outside her room open (it was very cold and she got a really bad cough, so I couldn’t ventilate her room), n95 mask when I went into her room every hour to give her food and drink.
Mum had a hard time keeping a mask on, and she’s hard of hearing, so I often needed to go closer than I wanted to. She also often asked me to take my mask off so she could understand me better, but I didn’t. So I thought I was likely to get it too.
Our protocol says that household contacts test 5 times in 7 days, at least 24 hours apart, so I did that, and I didn’t get it. I think that’s because I’d had my booster.
We never know when we’ll be exposed.
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I got my second booster in early May. Since then I have traveled multiple times (without masks), been around very large groups of people indoors (where many of them tested positive within just a few days) and even around small kids who aren’t vaccinated. I’ve tested numerous times (no symptoms at all) and have always tested negative. I may be jinxing myself here, but so far have avoided getting the virus. I’ve donated blood and they test for the antibodies and those tests always just say I’ve been vaxxed but never had the virus. I’m either really, really lucky, or the vaccines have kept me safe to this point. No one in my day-to-day immediate circle has had it…yet.
I’m sure I’ll probably be posting next week to say I’ve tested positive. 😁
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I had COVID about 6 weeks ago. I plan to get my second booster, but will probably wait until this fall.
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Not yet eligible, but sure, I'll get it.
Although I'm hoping by the time I'm eligible that there's an updated vaccine that has longer efficacy and/or works better with variants. I've had two Pfizer and a Moderna booster, and was crook for 48 hours after the booster.
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Tons of people in my circle are getting COVID and honestly it feels a lot like the Delta wave again, except the official stats are not counting many of the cases because testing at home is a big thing now. Our health dept. has even taken down their web form for reporting cases, so if you only test at home you’ll never be part of the stats.
So I’m going to go ahead and get a 2nd booster. Just report you have an autoimmune disorder and you’ll be eligible.
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I also had an autoimmune skin flare (brief) from all three shots and from actually getting Covid. It was pretty predictable, luckily only lasted about a week each time. I react to anything that tweaks my immune system anymore.
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Got mine a week or so ago.
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I had been on the fence about getting it now vs waiting, since we are on the brink of warm weather and hopefully dropping numbers.
Local numbers are on the upswing, and suddenly I'm hearing about people I know getting Covid (my brother and his wife) or getting exposed (my daughter and her spouse, his brother and girlfriend have Covid).
So DH and I got our boosters this week.
Two weeks later DS4 thought he had a cold, but he tested positive for Covid. Once we knew, we started wearing masks at home, but a few days later I started with the same symptoms, though milder: slight sore throat, low grade fever, slight headache/body aches, eventually congestion and bit of cough from post-nasal drip. Took two more days for my tests to switch to positive. DH and DS5 never developed symptoms or tested positive. My case was milder than DS4's, but neither was terrible; maybe my recent booster kept mine milder.
After I quarantined, and was back to work a few days, my boss tested positive (we all mask at work, but it's optional for patrons). She apparently got it from her SO, who got it from work. Same day, a board member's adult daughter tested positive. Less than a week later, we had a system-wide dinner (boss still in quarantine, skipped it); I wore a mask to protect others, most did not. One library did not attend at all. Less than a week later, a different board member who attended the dinner tested positive.
So the things I've concluded are: there's a ton of cases out there now, but everyone is home testing, so cases aren't reported and aren't in the official numbers; masking works - boss and I both got it from housemates because we weren't masking at home, after successfully dodging it for 2+ years; the boom in cases is since mask mandates were dropped, and everyone went back to socializing w/o distancing; the newest variant is more contagious than previous variants.
Keep your guard up!
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I'm not eligible (yet) but I'm just under the threshold (48yo). However I will travel internationally in August (for work, meaning lots of time in packed meeting rooms, with people who also travelled internationally to get there, albeit in a very strict country when it comes to Covid precautions) and September, when I'll stay with my elderly parents. My father, having a host of health issues, is considered immunocompromised. My mom falls into the "at risk" category due to having high blood pressure, and being 75yo.
So I'll get my second booster shot just before my work trip in August, eligible or not - that will be about 9 months after the first booster. No way I'm endangering my parents.
Edit: if not for those trips, I'd obviously wait until I'm eligible and the shots have been updated with the variants.
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I'm eligible for the second booster, but I got my first booster in January and Covid in April, and I'm pregnant, so my doctor is recommending that I wait until August or September for my next shot. My infection confers some immunity, and by then there might be more specific boosters available, and it could give baby some immunity when they're born.
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I will probably put off booster number two until fall.
I have been through all of my traveling plans which included several airplane rides, four days of riding around in buses looking at gardens, conferences, flower shows, etc. At one of the shows I sat right next to someone for 40 minutes who tested positive a couple days later.
I would prefer to have the protection during the winter when I’m more often indoors with folks.
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I will probably put off booster number two until fall.
I want a booster that has a better efficacy against the recent variants, if I were to get infected.
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Not with the current variant and not with the short lived effectiveness of the current boosters.
I'm young and healthy so I don't qualify anyway.
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I'll take whatever is offered. I have had covid, I have lost some family to covid. Anything that slows it down is ok with me.
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Several colleagues who are boosted have been I’ll with COVID. I am 44 and got my second booster on Wednesday at my workplace. I have several chronic issues with my gastro system so considered myself eligible despite being only 44. Side effects this time were nausea and a hot, sore shoulder which is now finally (Saturday) loosening up. We’ll be traveling to a red state to see friends and family in July and I wanted to be boosted beforehand.
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got my 2nd booster couple of weeks ago, so far so good
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I'm holding out for the Moderna bivalent booster for my second booster.
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We got our first booster in March in preparation for a trip we took in the beginning of June to Europe. First and second dose were Moderna and had no or very minor side effects. Booster was also Moderna and I developed hives over my entire body a few days after getting the booster. Painful, extremely itchy... even in my hair and inside my ear canal, bottoms of feet, bikini area... everywhere. Just totally miserable, couldn't sleep. It took about a week trying different antihistamines to find one (zyrtec) that helped. Turns out it's a side effect in about 3% of people. It's been over 3 months and I still have to take it daily or hives start popping up about 3-4 hours after a missed dose. You can also see any place where I've itched or accidentally scratched on any portion of my skin no matter how long after I take the Zyrtec. My skin becomes raised and red in the effected spot a couple minutes after scratching. I can literally use my fingernail to lightly scratch my name in my arm, if I want, and then read it for about an hour or so afterward (dermatographia). Being in the sun and/or hot weather a lot makes the entire reaction even worse and my skin more sensitive. Super awesome going into summer.
I will do what it takes to never get another booster to avoid stoking the hives fire again (if they ever end up going away). I'm 38 and really active/healthy so the risk/reward just isn't there for me. My husband, after seeing my debacle up close is pretty much out when it comes to another booster. I also really hate having to take zyrtec daily as it's not without its own side effects.