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for those that like solo travel, a perspective
« on: November 26, 2015, 01:00:42 AM »
Solitary travel has a peculiar power for those of us who are suited to it. Along with the discovery of one's own true nature and the opportunities to express it comes a corresponding freedom to think thoughts that may be considered odd, threatening, even reprehensible and lunatic, by ones familiar acqaintances. It is perfectly natural that prophets should come out the wildernis bearing revelations, but all prophets are not created equal. Some are giants, some are mediocre, some are of piddling stature, and some are nuts. The difficulty is that neither they nor those that receive there proclamations can really tell untill much later.

Mine is not pure asceticism of a single-handed yachtsman or a Saint-Exupery. There is no lack of people in my journeys, and they are my principal interest. Nor am I a dispassionate voyeur peering into other peoples lives. Strong connections are formed rapidly, and they nourish me. What distinguishes them from my relationships with friends and family at home is the absence of those expectations which I find burdensome and restrictive, demanding that I behave in certain predictable ways. These emotionable transactions trade too heavily on guilt and obligation for my taste. When I travel alone, I experience a sense of freedom that occasionally comes close to ecstacy.

The physical freedom is an important element - the abilty to stay or go as one pleases, to follow whatever the inner voice suggests, is a rare luxury in most lives, and there must be many who have never allowed themselves to experience that inner-directedness -- the compass in the heart. More valuable to me even than that is the freedom to be whoever and whatever you feel yourself to be rather than having to conform to the patterns that others are accustomed to expect.
From the book The Gypsy in Me . i liked the description

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2015, 02:17:20 PM »
Eleven days in Ireland by myself: Wonderful. I couldn't even begin to describe how much fun I had, and how great it was to do exactly what I wanted, with no compromises with anybody.

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2015, 11:50:16 PM »
I guess there is a bit of gypsy in all of us!

also, would you agree being alone isn't necessarily lonely and being with lots of people can be depressingly lonely.

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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2015, 05:44:18 AM »
Yes, definitely. There are certain creative activities, like writing or  music practice, that have to be done alone...to be able to get into the "zone" and really accomplish something. Or sometimes a long walk in the woods...a long interstate drive listening for hours to your own musical favorites...or just doing nothing and "being"...are best done alone. In terms of loneliness with lots of people around...I have had that happen to me when I'm "out of sync" somehow. I enjoy parties and social occasions, but where it's forced...like a get-together of a singles group...where there is no connection other than "we are a group of singles determined to have fun" can feel lonely. Or sometimes a new job or new activity where people are wrapped up in their already-formed groups and are not warm or welcoming can feel uncomfortable. I've found that the older I get, the less I care about things like that. I like being alone sometimes...I like not being alone sometimes...and if a social setting feels lonely or uncomfortable, I don't worry about it much...just move on.

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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2015, 10:32:07 PM »
  When I travel alone, I experience a sense of freedom that occasionally comes close to ecstacy.
 
Pretty much this for me. Hard to explain it to people who only like to travel with others but going solo can be pure bliss.

I always love the moment where you land in a new city/country and get checked into your hotel, change and wash up and whatever... and you step out the door, fully refreshed, to an unfamiliar street and you can do ANYTHING and go ANYWHERE. What an amazing feeling that is.

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« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2015, 02:38:02 AM »
I've just come back from visiting the US and Ecuador. I spent 12 days by myself in the US visiting the following parks:

Arches National Park
Bryce Canyon National Park
Canyon de Chelly National Monument
Canyonlands National Park
Capitol Reef National Park
Chaco Culture National Park
Dead Horse Point National Park
Death Valley National Park
Dixie National Forest
Goblin Valley State Park
Grand Canyon National Park
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
Kodachrome Basin State Park
Mesa Verde National Park
Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park
Painted Desert
Petrified Forest National Park
Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Red Canyon State Park
Sunset Crater National Monument
Vermillion Cliffs National Monument
Walnut Canyon National Monument
Wupatki National Monument
Zion National Park

And I had a fantastic time, especially when I visited Grand Staircase Escalante.

In Ecuador, I had a week in Quito, doing whatever I felt like, and that was fantastic too. I like going on tours, but I really like being all by myself. Last year I spent a month all by myself in the middle of nowhere in Australia. It was pure bliss.

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2015, 06:26:09 AM »
  When I travel alone, I experience a sense of freedom that occasionally comes close to ecstacy.
 
Pretty much this for me. Hard to explain it to people who only like to travel with others but going solo can be pure bliss.

I always love the moment where you land in a new city/country and get checked into your hotel, change and wash up and whatever... and you step out the door, fully refreshed, to an unfamiliar street and you can do ANYTHING and go ANYWHERE. What an amazing feeling that is.

There really isn't anything quite like it!

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2015, 09:07:42 AM »
I've just come back from visiting the US and Ecuador. I spent 12 days by myself in the US visiting the following parks:

Arches National Park
Bryce Canyon National Park
Canyon de Chelly National Monument
Canyonlands National Park
Capitol Reef National Park
Chaco Culture National Park
Dead Horse Point National Park
Death Valley National Park
Dixie National Forest
Goblin Valley State Park
Grand Canyon National Park
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
Kodachrome Basin State Park
Mesa Verde National Park
Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park
Painted Desert
Petrified Forest National Park
Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Red Canyon State Park
Sunset Crater National Monument
Vermillion Cliffs National Monument
Walnut Canyon National Monument
Wupatki National Monument
Zion National Park

And I had a fantastic time, especially when I visited Grand Staircase Escalante.

In Ecuador, I had a week in Quito, doing whatever I felt like, and that was fantastic too. I like going on tours, but I really like being all by myself. Last year I spent a month all by myself in the middle of nowhere in Australia. It was pure bliss.

Wow, that is fantastic. I live only a few states from a lot of these parks and still haven't visited about half of them (although I have traveled quite a lot). Arizona and Utah are just INCREDIBLE when it comes to natural park wonders.

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2015, 09:52:48 AM »
I guess there is a bit of gypsy in all of us!

also, would you agree being alone isn't necessarily lonely and being with lots of people can be depressingly lonely.

100% yes. What's always surprised me was the number of people who don't seem to understand this. It's as if our cultural representation of loneliness is overwhelmingly about being physically alone, instead of the feeling behind it. And that representation of loneliness kinda carries an irony given how 'independent' we're 'supposed' to be; culturally speaking, of course.

I think a part of it is how comfortable a person can be around themselves.

Side note: I took a week long solo road trip from Chicago to LA this summer. Best. Vacation. Ever. Totally not ashamed to admit I stopped in Roswell, NW.  Because Aliens.

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« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2015, 12:20:51 AM »
I’ve done solo and accompanied travel, and think I fall somewhere in between.
 
I’ve had some great multi-week solo trips but experienced occasional bouts of intense loneliness (usually dining out in the evening surrounded by couples and I’m sure partly compounded by consuming a few drinks).   I found it easier to meet people to share meals and experiences when I was in my 20s and early 30s, and frankly being alone in a social environment at the end-of-the-day can suck.   The negatives of solo travel are so much less noticeable for me so when I’m focused on a goal and am turning-in early, doing something like a backpacking trip.

I’ve had some great trips with girlfriends and close friends and these have been wonderful times.  There have been shared experiences and bonding so positive that the emotions regularly come back to me years later.   Yet almost every one of those trips has had me a little snippy towards the end because I’m around the other person a bit too much and am not getting enough alone time to explore the way that I want to do. 

I’m still working on that balance but figuring it out as I grow.  I think for me solo travel works best when I’m doing something physical and focused, and group travel works when I schedule significant time alone.

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« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2015, 01:22:14 AM »
I’ve had some great multi-week solo trips but experienced occasional bouts of intense loneliness (usually dining out in the evening surrounded by couples and I’m sure partly compounded by consuming a few drinks).   I found it easier to meet people to share meals and experiences when I was in my 20s and early 30s, and frankly being alone in a social environment at the end-of-the-day can suck. 

I know what you mean. I like to plan trips around evening activities (like a music festival/concert series, theater, etc.) so I won't just be sitting around with nothing to do in the evenings.

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2015, 09:19:36 PM »
I've just come back from visiting the US and Ecuador. I spent 12 days by myself in the US visiting the following parks:

Arches National Park
Bryce Canyon National Park
Canyon de Chelly National Monument
Canyonlands National Park
Capitol Reef National Park
Chaco Culture National Park
Dead Horse Point National Park
Death Valley National Park
Dixie National Forest
Goblin Valley State Park
Grand Canyon National Park
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
Kodachrome Basin State Park
Mesa Verde National Park
Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park
Painted Desert
Petrified Forest National Park
Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Red Canyon State Park
Sunset Crater National Monument
Vermillion Cliffs National Monument
Walnut Canyon National Monument
Wupatki National Monument
Zion National Park

And I had a fantastic time, especially when I visited Grand Staircase Escalante.

In Ecuador, I had a week in Quito, doing whatever I felt like, and that was fantastic too. I like going on tours, but I really like being all by myself. Last year I spent a month all by myself in the middle of nowhere in Australia. It was pure bliss.

Were these aerial fly-bys? That's two parks or monuments a day if I understand your post correctly. It doesn't seem like a lot of time to explore and appreciate these areas.

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 09:31:00 PM »
The first few nights of solo travel in a new place and I find myself walking around alone, watching couples walking together or people having fun in groups, I really feel depressed and lonely, like a real loser, and I tell myself "what am I doing here alone". This happens every single time I traveled alone. Then all of a sudden, before even realizing it, I find myself in the middle of a group of new friends, having a blast. I am somewhat a social misfit, but I love solo travel because it challenges me to get out of my shell and explore the other facets of my self.

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2015, 10:03:31 PM »
I've just come back from visiting the US and Ecuador. I spent 12 days by myself in the US visiting the following parks:

Arches National Park
Bryce Canyon National Park
Canyon de Chelly National Monument
Canyonlands National Park
Capitol Reef National Park
Chaco Culture National Park
Dead Horse Point National Park
Death Valley National Park
Dixie National Forest
Goblin Valley State Park
Grand Canyon National Park
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
Kodachrome Basin State Park
Mesa Verde National Park
Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park
Painted Desert
Petrified Forest National Park
Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Red Canyon State Park
Sunset Crater National Monument
Vermillion Cliffs National Monument
Walnut Canyon National Monument
Wupatki National Monument
Zion National Park

And I had a fantastic time, especially when I visited Grand Staircase Escalante.

In Ecuador, I had a week in Quito, doing whatever I felt like, and that was fantastic too. I like going on tours, but I really like being all by myself. Last year I spent a month all by myself in the middle of nowhere in Australia. It was pure bliss.

Were these aerial fly-bys? That's two parks or monuments a day if I understand your post correctly. It doesn't seem like a lot of time to explore and appreciate these areas.

No, I understand that I didn't explore the parks fully, but I definitely appreciated them. There had been a lot of rain, so more than a few including Death Valley (for example, which I tried to visit at the beginning, but there were flash floods, and it flooded again the day after I visited almost two weeks later) had many areas closed due to the wet conditions, so they couldn't be explored fully. Some, like the Grand Canyon and The Arches, were so full of people that I really didn't want to be there any longer than I was (I am not into queues that are half a mile long like the one into The Arches). I walked on trails in every single one of them, visited the pre-columbian ruins in those that had them and allowed them to be visited. Managed to get on guided tours in a few parks, and they were good (for instance Balcony House at Mesa Verde). I also managed to get a screw in one of the tyres of the hire car, so that slowed me down one day, while on several days it took a while to find somewhere to stay.

It is the time I had, and I was quite amazed at what I achieved, and how wonderful it was, especially as I don't expect to ever visit the area again. Not that I wouldn't like to. However, I am not much of an overseas traveler. I have only gone overseas five times in my life, and expect not to go more than ten times more, so revisiting places overseas probably won't happen. The trip home (which took 49 hours, and included two overnight flights and two planes that were completely full) more than confirmed why I prefer to do my traveling within Australia. While that was longer than any other trip home, it is always a very long trip. And there is still a lot of my own country that I haven't seen, even though I solo travel at least three months a year in it.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2015, 10:21:56 PM »
I've just come back from visiting the US and Ecuador. I spent 12 days by myself in the US visiting the following parks:

Arches National Park
Bryce Canyon National Park
Canyon de Chelly National Monument
Canyonlands National Park
Capitol Reef National Park
Chaco Culture National Park
Dead Horse Point National Park
Death Valley National Park
Dixie National Forest
Goblin Valley State Park
Grand Canyon National Park
Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument
Kodachrome Basin State Park
Mesa Verde National Park
Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park
Painted Desert
Petrified Forest National Park
Pink Sand Dunes State Park
Red Canyon State Park
Sunset Crater National Monument
Vermillion Cliffs National Monument
Walnut Canyon National Monument
Wupatki National Monument
Zion National Park

And I had a fantastic time, especially when I visited Grand Staircase Escalante.

In Ecuador, I had a week in Quito, doing whatever I felt like, and that was fantastic too. I like going on tours, but I really like being all by myself. Last year I spent a month all by myself in the middle of nowhere in Australia. It was pure bliss.

Were these aerial fly-bys? That's two parks or monuments a day if I understand your post correctly. It doesn't seem like a lot of time to explore and appreciate these areas.

No, I understand that I didn't explore the parks fully, but I definitely appreciated them. There had been a lot of rain, so more than a few including Death Valley (for example, which I tried to visit at the beginning, but there were flash floods, and it flooded again the day after I visited almost two weeks later) had many areas closed due to the wet conditions, so they couldn't be explored fully. Some, like the Grand Canyon and The Arches, were so full of people that I really didn't want to be there any longer than I was (I am not into queues that are half a mile long like the one into The Arches). I walked on trails in every single one of them, visited the pre-columbian ruins in those that had them and allowed them to be visited. Managed to get on guided tours in a few parks, and they were good (for instance Balcony House at Mesa Verde). I also managed to get a screw in one of the tyres of the hire car, so that slowed me down one day, while on several days it took a while to find somewhere to stay.

It is the time I had, and I was quite amazed at what I achieved, and how wonderful it was, especially as I don't expect to ever visit the area again. Not that I wouldn't like to. However, I am not much of an overseas traveler. I have only gone overseas five times in my life, and expect not to go more than ten times more, so revisiting places overseas probably won't happen. The trip home (which took 49 hours, and included two overnight flights and two planes that were completely full) more than confirmed why I prefer to do my traveling within Australia. While that was longer than any other trip home, it is always a very long trip. And there is still a lot of my own country that I haven't seen, even though I solo travel at least three months a year in it.

I would quickly be moving along to avoid the crowds as well so I understand and if I ever make it to Australia I will desperately be trying to fit in as much as I can.

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« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2015, 07:04:26 PM »
When I travel alone, I experience a sense of freedom that occasionally comes close to ecstacy.
I totally agree.  Solo travel liberates the soul.

II think solo people are more approachable then couple or multiple people travelling together.
I have found that to be true.  Locals are more apt to talk to a solo traveler.  There is a lot to be learned from having a one-on-one chat with a local and is one the aspects I really enjoy about solo travel.

I’ve had some great multi-week solo trips but experienced occasional bouts of intense loneliness (usually dining out in the evening surrounded by couples and I’m sure partly compounded by consuming a few drinks).
I have the same problem but solve it by befriending the folks staying in my accomodations.  Or I randomly ask a stranger to join him/her at a dinner table.  Most of the time he/she will be totally surprised but glad to have somebody to talk to.

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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2015, 02:28:29 AM »
I enjoyed some solo travel when I was single but I now have an awesome travel partner in my boyfriend. I like travelling either way. I don't think a single is necessarily more likely to meet people than a couple, though, it can depend on many factors. Our partnership being one part Asian and one part Caucasian probably helps us meet people in some regions, knowing more than one language also helps. E.g. in China, many people, intrigued by my white boyfriend, talked to me/him/us. If I had been solo, I'd basically look like a local and blend into the background, which is a pro in its own right (less likely to have people targeting or trying to sell to me as a foreigner, etc.), but I probably wouldn't have had as many people curiously extending conversations with me outside of regular transactions. I would say that in many Asian countries, by merely having a different ethnicity, my boyfriend entices the locals to reach out, whether he travels alone or with other people. If I'm around, my ability to speak a few languages other than English might help us get more depth out of the conversation. Just offering a different perspective!

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« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2015, 03:50:42 AM »
I went on a two week solo trip to the north-western US not so long ago. I enjoyed the flexibility of solo travel.

I ended up booking lots of things at the last minute as a result. Rental cars half an hour before picking them up, hotels minutes before arrival, etc. Added something to it rather than forcing myself to stick to a strict criteria, I liked it. It also meant I had to fly from SF to LA because I ran out of time. :)

 

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