"He makes liberals angry therefore I love him" seems to sum it up nicely.
A terrible sentiment for a system of government...
Regarding exposure of surveillance being to Trump's credit... Have you heard of Edward Snowden.....?
I think there is a fundamental difference between liberals and republican principals. Liberals seem to want to force their view of the world on others and use government as a means to accomplish compliance.
Hmm. What about:
- Using government powers to legislate that women what women can do with their bodies?
- Using government powers to institute tariffs that end up preventing private individuals from selling their product outside of the country?
- Using government powers to prevent the free movement of people across borders?
- Using government powers to keep losing the war on drugs (an attempt to control what people can choose to put in their own bodies)?
- Using government powers to illegally kidnap and torture people while holding them indefinitely without chance of fair trial?
That certainly sounds like a party that wants to force their view of the world on others and use government as a means to accomplish compliance. Good thing the right doesn't support any of those issues. :P
whataboutism
Legit points though. I want a small government party, fiscally responsible (I used to say conservative but the word just doesn't mean what it used to). I want that government to stay away from social issues entirely. There is no party like that anymore.
What's crazy to me is that, standing back and looking at it objectively, Trump really hasn't done a whole lot. He's said some shit, sure. He's planning some shit, sure. But he's wildly ineffective and very little has changed in the world as a result of his presidency.
But if you look at the coverage of his presidency, you'd think the world was ending. Without question, by this point, GWB had made far more impactful changes to the country.
Things that deserved this sort of outcry but because "omg terrorists" were passed, often with bipartisan support.
Things that Obama was supposed to dismantle. But then when he got there he found he kinda didn't mind how powerful POTUS is, and maybe that stuff isn't bad as long as Democrats control it.
I'm waiting for the Donald to actually DO something anywhere close to the massive power grab of GWB. It's weird to me how bent out of shape the Democrats are that a loathed and incompetent person is sitting in the seat. It's the second-best outcome next to your guy sitting in the seat. Ahh, I get it now. Make as much noise as you can so you can be in power the next round, make it look as bad as possible, because that's just how we operate now. It's literally SOP for the progressive party.
There's no making them happy. Obama was president for 8 years and somehow that made us a more racist country. Instead of the race card being retired it got a glossy foil overhaul. Show of hands, how many thought they'd shut the fuck up about racist against black people? I did. I remember a thread on this board about that. Can we move on and be post racial? Well no, of course not, because
nobody puts down a source of power voluntarily. If you are not a Democrat, you are a racist. That's how its defined now. So fuck it.
Now an actual racist bigot is in the WH, but you can't convince a whole slew of people that's true because you've been hurling that accusation across the aisle, non-stop, my entire life. This is literally the scenario you were warned about. Repeatedly. Do. Not. Cry. Wolf.
A sexist asshole is in the WH, but you can't convince a whole slew of people that's true because you've been hurling that accusation across the aisle, non-stop, my entire life. Do. Not. Cry. Wolf.
Would you please issue an apology to every person whose policies you disagreed with for specific, self-serving reasons, that instead of arguing on merits, you sought to discredit, via slanderous and libelous character assaults? Your vested interest masquerading as a just cause has led us directly to this moment. And the absolute refusal to take any responsibility for where we are is staggering in its uniformity. Both sides blame the other for where we are, and both sides were willing participants for the entire ride. That first time you voted, not your conscience but the lesser of two evils, that first time you swallowed misgivings and voted party line, that's where this started.
You didn't want to play fair for at least the last two decades, and like every other team that cheated to win and then lost anyway, you refuse to disband the team. And you know what, I get it, you'll probably win next time and that's all that matters right? Nevermind that it'll cycle back around again, because you're both terrible in different and unique ways.
Both parties are garbage. Both parties are not interested in representing you. Stop giving them money. Stop voting for their candidates. All the money from all the "evil racists" and "greedy corporations" will amount to nothing if nobody can get elected with a major party affiliation.
"That's just crazy talk."
Yea...