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Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« on: January 10, 2018, 02:30:41 AM »
I literally don't sleep a 6,7 or 8 hour night. And over the last couple years since being fire'd it seems like its got worse. Over the course of the day I get plenty of sleep but Occasionally I will sleep 6 hours tops in a row. Otherwise its typically I seem to take a 1-2 hour nap in afternoon,  fall asleep in my chair 8. Get up at 10 and go to bed and wake up anywhere from 2:20 to 4ish.  I dont feel tired or like an insomniac  but it strikes me odd.  For the longest time I struggled to stay up till 10 and got mad at this but now I just get up and enjoy the quiet.  Anyone else like this

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2018, 09:26:41 AM »
I've always been an erratic sleeper from my late 20s on.  In my 30s it was chronic insomnia.  In my 40s I randomly started sleeping much better with fewer insomnia nights, but then in the past few years I have new sleep patterns resulting from having a very elderly cat.  She does most of her eating at night but wants fresh food each time she wants to eat (usually 3x per night); and she is somewhat mentally impaired, so she will also sometimes cry in the middle of the night (I guess because she wakes up confused); or just meow for attention because she is awake and bored.

Luckily, I usually get up 2-3 times per night to pee anyway, so MOST nights, I sleep in bursts of 2-4 hours and get up and attend to her with food or a brief petting session in between.  Occasionally, though we get very little undisturbed sleep because of her.  It's annoying, but it is hard to feel too bad when our 20 year old cat's only major health issue is her 'annoying-ness'.  Presumably, this won't go on too much longer.

I have not noticed any problem with my energy level, as long as my overall sleep amount is 8-9 hours.

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2018, 09:41:18 AM »
I do have sleeping problems, but I get all my sleep at once. My issue is that I wake up every 2 hours at night. I think I might have some sleep apnea.

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2018, 09:48:19 AM »
I literally don't sleep a 6,7 or 8 hour night. And over the last couple years since being fire'd it seems like its got worse. Over the course of the day I get plenty of sleep but Occasionally I will sleep 6 hours tops in a row. Otherwise its typically I seem to take a 1-2 hour nap in afternoon,  fall asleep in my chair 8. Get up at 10 and go to bed and wake up anywhere from 2:20 to 4ish.  I dont feel tired or like an insomniac  but it strikes me odd.  For the longest time I struggled to stay up till 10 and got mad at this but now I just get up and enjoy the quiet.  Anyone else like this

What you describe is exactly what my sleep pattern is like.  When I patch all the sleep times together I usually end up with 6 - 7 hours of sleep a day.  Most days I don't feel tired.

The only time I start to feel exhausted is when I can't fall asleep right away at 10 at night.  If I have anxiety and stress that won't let me go to sleep, I miss those two to three hours right at the beginning of the night.  If I miss that opportunity to sleep I feel very tired the next day and within a couple days I'm completely exhausted. 


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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2018, 09:58:26 AM »
Thanks for replying all.  Don't get me wrong its good to know I am not alone!  I dont get up more than once a night to pee but if I do I cant fall back asleep.  The odd thing is if I travel with my kids for soccer or something I can sleep on and off 8-10 12 hours. At home its so typical and I just think I have fell into this pattern. Eat lunch hour later fall asleep an hour. Eat dinner watch some TV fight to stay up but never can. But the closer I can stay up till 10 the later I will sleep.  But yea I have gotten use to it and overall as mentioned it adds up to some good hours. My DW said when I sleep I dont make a noise and I am out so thats good i guess. She also said I dont snore at all. Very seldom do I have problems falling asleep but when I was younger that was the bigger issue because i had work etc.. I think now being fired i am more like an old man when it comes to sleep from what i hear at 53.

I do have sleeping problems, but I get all my sleep at once. My issue is that I wake up every 2 hours at night. I think I might have some sleep apnea.
   


I'd get that checked out! better to be safe than sorry!!!

@wenchsenior  thats almost a duplicate of me. 20's and 30's insomniac. 40's I slept great or at least more regular. 50's this crap. No cat to blame though! lol

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2018, 10:10:16 AM »
I sleep only a couple hours at a time as well. I'll suddenly wake up, look around a minute, then go back to sleep.  The only time this doesn't happen is when I am utterly and dangerously exhausted. I'm not a morning person (which my job requires), and unless I had a physically tiring day I'm not tired until 11pm.

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2018, 10:20:35 AM »
I sleep only a couple hours at a time as well. I'll suddenly wake up, look around a minute, then go back to sleep.  The only time this doesn't happen is when I am utterly and dangerously exhausted. I'm not a morning person (which my job requires), and unless I had a physically tiring day I'm not tired until 11pm.

I'd take that! lol.... Probably for me is once I wake up the slightest I am not falling back to sleep

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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2018, 11:29:14 AM »
There are different sleep cycles. My understanding is recent history (past 500 years) we've gravitated toward the solid 8 hours of sleep. But there are other sleep schedules and some may be more natural to you.

I tend gravitate towards biphasic cycle (which you seem to be describing). I sleep 5-6 hours at night. Go to work. And I may need a short nap later in the evening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biphasic_and_polyphasic_sleep

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/07/13/alternative-sleep-cycles-7-10-hours-is-not-needed/
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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2018, 01:27:59 PM »
Thanks for replying all.  Don't get me wrong its good to know I am not alone!  I dont get up more than once a night to pee but if I do I cant fall back asleep.  The odd thing is if I travel with my kids for soccer or something I can sleep on and off 8-10 12 hours. At home its so typical and I just think I have fell into this pattern. Eat lunch hour later fall asleep an hour. Eat dinner watch some TV fight to stay up but never can. But the closer I can stay up till 10 the later I will sleep.  But yea I have gotten use to it and overall as mentioned it adds up to some good hours. My DW said when I sleep I dont make a noise and I am out so thats good i guess. She also said I dont snore at all. Very seldom do I have problems falling asleep but when I was younger that was the bigger issue because i had work etc.. I think now being fired i am more like an old man when it comes to sleep from what i hear at 53.

I do have sleeping problems, but I get all my sleep at once. My issue is that I wake up every 2 hours at night. I think I might have some sleep apnea.
   


I'd get that checked out! better to be safe than sorry!!!

@wenchsenior  thats almost a duplicate of me. 20's and 30's insomniac. 40's I slept great or at least more regular. 50's this crap. No cat to blame though! lol

A couple things you could check medically that can really affect sleep: insulin/blood sugar levels, and hormones (if you are female).  Both of these play/played huge roles in my insomnia.   

Even if you are not diabetic or prediabetic (I'm not), improper insulin function screws up sleep patterns, usually by creating a huge spike in blood sugar after a meal that makes  you sleepy (sometimes severely sleepy), followed by a  hypoglycemic crash a couple hours later that dumps adrenaline into your system and wakes you up.  If you are eating carb-heavy, this can be a problem for sure and I would recommend scaling way back on sugar/simple carbs and seeing if it makes a difference.  This helped my insomnia quite a bit, though didn't fix entirely.

The other thing for women is that some (like me) are incredibly sensitive to hormone levels, and particularly changes in those levels.  Too little estrogen, or a sudden drop in estrogen (like at ovulation...ugh) will bring on migraines and severe flu like body pain along with insomnia and restless sleep.  Too much estrogen (rare anymore, but used to be a common problem for me) made my hyper and agitated.  So that is something to track if you are female.

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2018, 01:37:51 PM »
Thanks for replying all.  Don't get me wrong its good to know I am not alone!  I dont get up more than once a night to pee but if I do I cant fall back asleep.  The odd thing is if I travel with my kids for soccer or something I can sleep on and off 8-10 12 hours. At home its so typical and I just think I have fell into this pattern. Eat lunch hour later fall asleep an hour. Eat dinner watch some TV fight to stay up but never can. But the closer I can stay up till 10 the later I will sleep.  But yea I have gotten use to it and overall as mentioned it adds up to some good hours. My DW said when I sleep I dont make a noise and I am out so thats good i guess. She also said I dont snore at all. Very seldom do I have problems falling asleep but when I was younger that was the bigger issue because i had work etc.. I think now being fired i am more like an old man when it comes to sleep from what i hear at 53.

I do have sleeping problems, but I get all my sleep at once. My issue is that I wake up every 2 hours at night. I think I might have some sleep apnea.
   


I'd get that checked out! better to be safe than sorry!!!

@wenchsenior  thats almost a duplicate of me. 20's and 30's insomniac. 40's I slept great or at least more regular. 50's this crap. No cat to blame though! lol

A couple things you could check medically that can really affect sleep: insulin/blood sugar levels, and hormones (if you are female).  Both of these play/played huge roles in my insomnia.   

Even if you are not diabetic or prediabetic (I'm not), improper insulin function screws up sleep patterns, usually by creating a huge spike in blood sugar after a meal that makes  you sleepy (sometimes severely sleepy), followed by a  hypoglycemic crash a couple hours later that dumps adrenaline into your system and wakes you up.  If you are eating carb-heavy, this can be a problem for sure and I would recommend scaling way back on sugar/simple carbs and seeing if it makes a difference.  This helped my insomnia quite a bit, though didn't fix entirely.

The other thing for women is that some (like me) are incredibly sensitive to hormone levels, and particularly changes in those levels.  Too little estrogen, or a sudden drop in estrogen (like at ovulation...ugh) will bring on migraines and severe flu like body pain along with insomnia and restless sleep.  Too much estrogen (rare anymore, but used to be a common problem for me) made my hyper and agitated.  So that is something to track if you are female.



Not a Women but your totally correct on the sugar levels. I am not diabetic I get physicals every 6 months BUT it is the bigger full meals with carbs that for sure makes a difference. Back when I said I wasnt sleeping I actually started eating a yogurt about an hour before bed but then that led to putting something in it like a cookie or 5 and so on.  Ironically today I cut my lunch way back and at parts of  it 3 hours apart and I am not tired. Big meals do make me sleepy!  Another thing I changed when I lost all my weight was I dont eat my dinner past 6 and I kinda have slipped so I am going to try and get back to that as well as not eating breakfast till 10am.  Eating most or all you calories in a shorter window really helped me as it kinda puts your body in a daily "Fast" mode. Thats when I was doing my best.

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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 03:31:52 PM »
I have very similar sleep patterns as you. I even went to a sleep specialist. I do have some sleep apnea but the kicker was the specialist said that getting all the sleep at one shot is relatively new. Here is an article about it.

http://www.history.vt.edu/Ekirch/sleepcommentary.html

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 06:29:28 PM »
I sleep only a couple hours at a time as well. I'll suddenly wake up, look around a minute, then go back to sleep.  The only time this doesn't happen is when I am utterly and dangerously exhausted. I'm not a morning person (which my job requires), and unless I had a physically tiring day I'm not tired until 11pm.

I'd take that! lol.... Probably for me is once I wake up the slightest I am not falling back to sleep

When I have an issue (maybe twice a month or so?) it is this. Once awake, doomed.

We also have two cats who prefer to let us know it is 4:30am and they might possibly be thinking they want to eat.

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 09:25:23 PM »
Your sleep pattern describes those commonly seen in societies without electrical power. It's actually thought to have been the normal pre-industrial pattern in adults (adolescents and elderly have slightly different patterns). Waking up at 2-3am is common in these societies, and the time between 3-sunrise was called "second sleep". I think it just means you aren't dependent on external factors on setting your schedule.

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Re: Does anybody else seem to sleep only a couple hours at a time?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 03:41:23 AM »
Your sleep pattern describes those commonly seen in societies without electrical power. It's actually thought to have been the normal pre-industrial pattern in adults (adolescents and elderly have slightly different patterns). Waking up at 2-3am is common in these societies, and the time between 3-sunrise was called "second sleep". I think it just means you aren't dependent on external factors on setting your schedule.


Thats interesting.  Definitely doesn't matter for me if its dark or light out. When I am tired I sleep solid just not long. I use to think a third shift job would of been best for me.

So my attempt failed as it was such a struggle. Yesterday being up from 2:45 to 10pm I figured I'd sleep and no nap. I had no trouble not napping as eating less and spread out helped. Besides I shouldnt be eating a big carb loaded lunch anyways.  But long and short I stayed up which wasnt easy and woke up at 3:30.  So today I am going to let myself take a nap but stay up till 10 . I dont think my naps hurt if I dont go over an hour and for the first time in awhile now i do feel really tired!

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 05:12:26 AM »
If I nap in daylight hours, I don't sleep so well or as long at night.  If I get enough sleep (like 9+ hours/night consistently) I will start to go into a nocturnal biphasic sleep pattern sometimes. What I've learned is that I need much more sleep than I ever thought to feel good.

Mediterranean cultures have long had a siesta in the middle of the day, go back to work in the afternoon, and are up til midnight or so. So maybe that's your pattern?

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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2018, 04:25:15 AM »
If I nap in daylight hours, I don't sleep so well or as long at night.  If I get enough sleep (like 9+ hours/night consistently) I will start to go into a nocturnal biphasic sleep pattern sometimes. What I've learned is that I need much more sleep than I ever thought to feel good.

Mediterranean cultures have long had a siesta in the middle of the day, go back to work in the afternoon, and are up til midnight or so. So maybe that's your pattern?


Yea, I am thinking that is it. Yesterday after working out I came home had a light lunch and a 90 minute power nap. Was able to stay up till 10 no problem and slept like a rock till 2 then lightly till 3:30 BUT feel alot more refreshed then what i tried the day before. Just odd how its changes so much over the years. Went from alway getting up at 6am to couldnt sleep past 5am then 4am.   But I am not going to lose any sleep over it anymore! pun intended.

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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2018, 10:47:45 AM »
I think the only real test is whether you feel rested and energized. If you feel fine, you're probably getting enough sleep.

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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 05:53:29 AM »
I generally have no problem falling asleep. But I do wake up several times a night.
 Being a 62 yr old male, I think it's common to get up twice to urinate. So that
explains a couple of wake ups, but I'm not sure if I wake up and decide to pee
or if I wake up because I need to pee.
 I have a pillow speaker and always slide it under my ear and listen until I fall asleep.
I may even change the preset channel if I'm not interested in what is on.
 I have slept with a talk radio on a pillow speaker for more than 30 years.
 Probably not ideal, and I never have gone without it.
 I'm never really sure how much sleep I actually get.
 I have always favored a short nap in the afternoon and often had a job
where I could jump in my car for a 20 nap. Now that I'm semi retired I
can set in front of the computer and fall asleep, then I often get up and take real nap.
 All that said, I don't seem to run tired or low on energy during the day.

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2018, 03:16:57 PM »
I generally have no problem falling asleep. But I do wake up several times a night.
 Being a 62 yr old male, I think it's common to get up twice to urinate. So that
explains a couple of wake ups, but I'm not sure if I wake up and decide to pee
or if I wake up because I need to pee.
 I have a pillow speaker and always slide it under my ear and listen until I fall asleep.
I may even change the preset channel if I'm not interested in what is on.
 I have slept with a talk radio on a pillow speaker for more than 30 years.
 Probably not ideal, and I never have gone without it.
 I'm never really sure how much sleep I actually get.
 I have always favored a short nap in the afternoon and often had a job
where I could jump in my car for a 20 nap. Now that I'm semi retired I
can set in front of the computer and fall asleep, then I often get up and take real nap.
 All that said, I don't seem to run tired or low on energy during the day.



Never heard of a pillow speaker. I do set tv for 3 hours and have a ceiling fan but maybe i need more white noise.  I feel fine other than the nights i wake up before 3am.  Makes for a long day! but i get plenty of nap time so that does help. I just would like to try and get a little longer at night so thats what i am kinda working on. Like sleep from 10-4am would be fine.  Then a 1 hour nap.