Now that this thread has descended into the depths of nonsense - do men grow up being trained to be wary of women who will grab and molest them? Of women who will grab at body parts in passing? Do they worry about the woman on the hotel elevator late at night? Do they plan their walk home from work in the dark so that it is as safe as possible? Do they worry more about women than bears and mountain lions when they go camping? And worry about women who will put rohypnol in their drinks at a bar?
Brock Turner is a rapist.
But the answer to all of your questions is yes. Don't go near that aunt, watch out for those women over there, the men in my life were careful to point out all risks, including risks from women. So we worry about the women in the hotel elevator late at night? Are you kidding me? Of course we do. Except the bears and mountain lions thing, personally I worry most about snakes or running out of beer while camping. I camp far enough away from any other people, that's sort of the whole point to me. Shit, that might have been victim blaming.
Here's where the message goes off the rails when this group is trying to get me on board:
Rapist = Rapist
Men = usually not rapists
Women = usually not rapists
So to fix your questions:
Now that this thread has descended into the depths of nonsense - do
men people grow up being trained to be wary of
womenpeople who will grab and molest them? Of
womenpeople who will grab at body parts in passing? Do they worry about the
womanpeople on the hotel elevator late at night? Do they plan their walk home from work in the dark so that it is as safe as possible? Do they worry more about
womenpeople than bears and mountain lions when they go camping? And worry about
womenpeople who will put rohypnol in their drinks at a bar?
Yes, people worry about that. But whenever anyone suggests that there are things you can do to avoid bears while camping, that's somehow victim blaming and rape culture.
Until I can provide a civilization where there are no rapists (and you please let me know how to do that, hint, killing all the men won't make it so) it isn't victim blaming to say: don't get black out drunk, don't hang out in shady places, don't do risky things. By all means don't take that to mean you are forbidden from doing them, it's just how anyperson tells any other person about risks. Doing this increases your chances of getting raped. Doing this other thing increases your chances of being lit on fire. I am not surprised when you do it anyway and get raped. I am not surprised when your loving relatives light the rapist on fire.
Presented with a scenario where there are indeed rapists, you think a reasonable solution is to wail at the top of your lungs that there shouldn't be rapists.
I do not disagree.
It sounds crazy because it
is.
Present another solution. It isn't my fault that there isn't an easy one.
I don't even have a concept of what it would look like. I want to believe. I want to be a member. I want to fix the problem. But there are rapists. If you insist on Man = rapist; then you lose me, because that is nonsense.