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Any photography enthusiasts here?
« on: March 08, 2016, 02:33:11 PM »
Just got my first DSLR, a Canon T5i and I'm pretty blown away with the photos it takes - even with the kit lenses it is beautiful. I'm working on learning as much as I can about how to use the camera and photography concepts in general. It seems like a great skill to have and it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Anyone else into photography as a hobby or profession?

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 02:48:33 PM »
Hobby, yes - I'd love to practice enough to get paid, but I haven't got to that point yet.

I had a Nikon D40 with 18-55mm, 35mm prime, and 55-200mm lenses for quite a while. I had the camera with the kit lens for..probably 7-8 years, and the other lenses for the last year or two. I sold them and upgraded to a Sony A5000 with 16-50mm and 55-210mm lenses. When I get home, I'll have to dig up some photos that I've taken.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 10:42:13 PM »
Nikon guy. Only an entry level D5000 that I have had for 6 years. Switching to an Sony A7 this year though. Cant wait!

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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2016, 03:34:20 AM »
I'm a Nikon Hobbyist.  I've got my first full frame D750.  I love it.  I'd like to make some money in the future with it when I retire from the Navy.

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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2016, 03:58:28 AM »
I have some interest in photography, but not sure if it's strong enough to call myself an enthusiast. I enjoy it, but I'm not dedicated enough to want to learn absolutely everything about it, therefore so far, I have only used compact cameras that cost a few hundred. But I do like taking pictures and processing them digitally, even if my knowledge doesn't run deep! Started with a Canon S90 for several years, now using a Sony RX100 Mark 2. On the other hand, my partner is definitely an enthusiast, he treats it as a hobby, but he is very good at it (most of the photos on our Instagram are by him), and paid work comes to him every now and then. He currently has a Canon 5D Mark 2 and a Sony Nex 7, and a few lenses. It's not just about the gear, though - on occasion he borrows my compact, and he is more nifty with it than I am. Though I like to think that some of my results aren't half bad either. :)

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2016, 06:17:09 AM »
Technically a professional, but yes. :)

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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2016, 01:47:54 AM »
Canon T5i

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it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Spend a while on photography forums. You'll realize why professionals charge so much. I wouldn't take money to shoot a wedding unless I had no other way to feed myself.

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 10:09:05 PM »
I bought my first DSLR, Nikon D5200, about a year and a half ago. It's nothing special but it's nice. I have the 18-55mm kit lens and just recently bought a 35mm prime.

Before that one, I had a Nikon Fe2 that I bought for a black and white photography class in high school, which got me into photography in the first place. I totally miss film photography but it's hard to do if you don't have your own darkroom, or go to a school that has one.

But yes, I'd say I'm an enthusiast. Being a photojournalist is my dream job! Post FIRE maybe?

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2016, 10:16:11 PM »
Canon T5i

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it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Spend a while on photography forums. You'll realize why professionals charge so much. I wouldn't take money to shoot a wedding unless I had no other way to feed myself.

I'll have to check it out. Honestly it doesn't seem that complex or difficult..

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2016, 10:28:44 PM »
Spend a while on photography forums. You'll realize why professionals charge so much. I wouldn't take money to shoot a wedding unless I had no other way to feed myself.
I'll have to check it out. Honestly it doesn't seem that complex or difficult..

My partner has done weddings before, only because sometimes friends ask him to (and he gets paid of course), but it's not something he seeks out himself, even though he is well aware that it's great money. It's very stressful, you need to have heaps of backups in case your equipment fails (even if you have double-checked them just before and everything was fine and dandy), if anything goes wrong or you miss an important shot, it's the couple's one special day and it's not like you can ask them to have the wedding all over again. And for dog's sake - don't lose the memory card. You'd think that people would be diligent but I have actually read about such cases, usually happens to photographers who aren't really that professional but got into the industry because, hey, it's an easy way to make money, and they underestimate how overwhelming it can be and how careful, alert, and prepared you have to be at all times.

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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2016, 11:25:37 PM »
I have been into photography as a hobby for 10 years. Got an early Canon DSLR as my first real camera. It was a good camera, the shutter button broke around 60k shots. Bought a 7D and am still using that. Lenses... My current favorite is the Canon 100mm 2.8 IS macro. It takes the most beautiful photos, just amazing. Sharp, excellent contrast...
It is a fun hobby, not something I will ever do profesionally though... As stated above, it is incredibly demanding and stressful in a wedding environment.

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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2016, 07:16:54 AM »
Canon Hobbyist and love it. I justified the price buy getting more money than my truck was worth when I sold it last year. (great pictures helped) i also take a million pictures of the kids (they're 1 and 3). Plus capturing our vacations in great quality is really important to us. I don't have any L-glass lenses but maybe one day?

I am also very good with photoshop (self taught) with 5+ years loving that hobby and photography is in the same realm imo. I wanted a camera forever so I sold my tundra and that was a parting gift to myself for doing that.

Canon 70D and 13-135 lense is my walk around.

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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2016, 08:01:59 AM »
Canon T5i

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it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Spend a while on photography forums. You'll realize why professionals charge so much. I wouldn't take money to shoot a wedding unless I had no other way to feed myself.

I'll have to check it out. Honestly it doesn't seem that complex or difficult..

Reevaluate after you go through and edit 500 pictures. :)

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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2016, 08:13:52 AM »
I love photography as a hobby and have a Canon DSLR. I actually met my wife through photography. These days however I rarely take out my DSLR anymore unless I want to use it for the telephoto lens that I have, or special events like taking pictures of the blood moon eclipse, etc. I take 100 times more pictures using my iPhone camera because it is convenient to carry in my pocket and with me where ever I go.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2016, 08:32:28 AM »
Canon T5i

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it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Spend a while on photography forums. You'll realize why professionals charge so much. I wouldn't take money to shoot a wedding unless I had no other way to feed myself.

I'll have to check it out. Honestly it doesn't seem that complex or difficult..

Reevaluate after you go through and edit 500 pictures. :)

500 actually sounds like a very modest estimation to me... :p

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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2016, 04:38:33 AM »
Retired professional here- there was(is?) a lot of money to be made in photography if you are good, but cameras are getting better and better and even terrible photographers are getting into the market, as well as making it easier for a lot of novices to get good fast. I made it my sole source of income for 6 years, did very well but hung up my hat after 6 years for a number of reasons. One of the reasons is that it's advertising, and more often than not putting something out there for people to want, that isn't real. I think at some level it is damaging the way we think.  Also, many other reasons.
I no longer shoot (sold all my gear - and by the way good lenses really hold value) except with my phone of our travels and to document our life, but Im starting to have misgivings about that too. I actually stopped shooting for a month, just as an experiment and so far I like the results :) I have absolutely no desire to ever pick up a real camera again.
However, there was a lot of good too. The last few years I only worked about 20ish days a year, saved up enough that we will never have to worry about finances, met a lot of good people, and got to peek into many lifestyles/life choices and learned a lot about human beings/life. Probably the biggest solid takeaway from this last was that all that glitters most definitely is not gold!


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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2016, 06:46:39 AM »
I've been a full time photographer for the last 10 years, and it's not the easiest way to get rich.   Knowing the technical side of photography is the easy part.  It's a given that you have to know your camera inside and out, be the master of light, and the algebra of photography (inverse square law, exposure calculations, blah blah).  And of course if you don't know Photoshop too well, you could get killed on the back end by working way more hours than you should be.  This is where a lot of newbies burn out because they realize that they're working for less than minimum wage.  Especially if they're competing on price because their work isn't up to par.

But like I said, that's the easy part.  There's the business aspect of it, sales, marketing, bookkeeping, taxes, website.  Sales and marketing are the most difficult thing for me because I don't have a business background.

And then there's working with the public.  It seems that everybody that you photograph these days is way overly critical of themselves.  "I hate all of photos of me!"  I can't tell you how many times I've heard that at the beginning of a session.  Learning to interact with and pose people properly to get the expressions you want and able to twist and stretch them into flattering positions that look natural takes some doing.   You need to be a part-time psychologist too.

Weddings are not easy.  They are a ton of work.  You have to work super fast under pressure.  You don't have time to think about camera settings, you gotta know that shit.  And the chaos, oh my.  Angry mother-in-laws, drunk groomsmen, everything is late, the bride is upset, and you're right in the middle of everything attempting to create magazine worthy images that the bride is paying you for.  If you don't create what seem to be miracles, your online reputation will could get trashed by one bridezilla.

So I guess what I'm saying is, it might look easy, but it ain't.  And at the same time, I do love my job!

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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2016, 07:47:38 AM »
Angry mother-in-laws, drunk groomsmen, everything is late, the bride is upset, and you're right in the middle of everything attempting to create magazine worthy images that the bride is paying you for.  If you don't create what seem to be miracles, your online reputation will could get trashed by one bridezilla.

So I guess what I'm saying is, it might look easy, but it ain't.  And at the same time, I do love my job!

This is the single biggest reason I don't do weddings. Mothers-in-law scare the bejeezus out of me.

The other thing that a lot of people (general public and amateurs alike) don't understand is that it's as much about what isn't in the frame as what is. Backgrounds will kill you every time. That and shooting everything from standing eye-level.

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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2016, 08:09:21 AM »
Angry mother-in-laws, drunk groomsmen, everything is late, the bride is upset, and you're right in the middle of everything attempting to create magazine worthy images that the bride is paying you for.  If you don't create what seem to be miracles, your online reputation will could get trashed by one bridezilla.

So I guess what I'm saying is, it might look easy, but it ain't.  And at the same time, I do love my job!

This is the single biggest reason I don't do weddings. Mothers-in-law scare the bejeezus out of me.

The other thing that a lot of people (general public and amateurs alike) don't understand is that it's as much about what isn't in the frame as what is. Backgrounds will kill you every time. That and shooting everything from standing eye-level.

Haha. I know just about enough about photography to know that I do not want to do weddings. :P

The photographers at my sister's wedding were ridiculous...I wanted a specific shot but my camera couldn't do it well due to low lighting (Sony A5000 with the f/3.5-5.6 kit lens) so I asked the photographer (who appeared to be doing nothing at the time) if she had a fast lens. After I explained what that meant, she said something like 'well the camera does all the settings automatically, so pictures taken without good light still come out nicely.'

...true story.

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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2016, 08:21:05 AM »
Canon T5i

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it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Spend a while on photography forums. You'll realize why professionals charge so much. I wouldn't take money to shoot a wedding unless I had no other way to feed myself.
Ditto.  I've made decent money from selling advertising photos to businesses, national magazine assignments, a few for private hire.  I've shot 3 weddings now, and the only way I do it is as a gift to the couple, and even then it takes a lot of convincing.  Good wedding photography business is really, really difficult.  It's easy to do it poorly, but then you won't be doing it very long.  There are tons of forums out there about this.  Wedding photography is risky, labor intensive, high overhead, and stressful.  I am in awe of those who can do it well: making great images and running a stable business.

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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2016, 05:54:12 AM »
I hope you guys don't mind if I hijack your thread a bit? My wife and I are looking at getting a new camera. We're not wanting to go professional, and we probably won't be making any special trips just for hobby shooting. We just want a good camera that takes better pictures than the crappy point and shoots we've always owned. We're headed to Napa Valley this summer, so the wife wants a nice camera to take along with her.

We've been digging around and different blogs and tech review sites have us convinced that mirrorless cameras are the way to go. More compact, lighter, lower maintenance, quicker auto focus, yet the quality still is on par with DSLR. We've seen loads of good reviews about the Sony a6000, and it seems simple enough for us to be able to use it right off the bat, but complicated enough that as we learn a little bit more, we can play around and take better pictures. But ultimately this will be used to take pictures of us, our dog, maybe some nature on our hikes, and our future children.

Do you guys have any opinions on the mirrorless vs DSLR debate, or do you have any recommendations on cameras?

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2016, 06:05:01 AM »
I hope you guys don't mind if I hijack your thread a bit? My wife and I are looking at getting a new camera. We're not wanting to go professional, and we probably won't be making any special trips just for hobby shooting. We just want a good camera that takes better pictures than the crappy point and shoots we've always owned. We're headed to Napa Valley this summer, so the wife wants a nice camera to take along with her.

We've been digging around and different blogs and tech review sites have us convinced that mirrorless cameras are the way to go. More compact, lighter, lower maintenance, quicker auto focus, yet the quality still is on par with DSLR. We've seen loads of good reviews about the Sony a6000, and it seems simple enough for us to be able to use it right off the bat, but complicated enough that as we learn a little bit more, we can play around and take better pictures. But ultimately this will be used to take pictures of us, our dog, maybe some nature on our hikes, and our future children.

Do you guys have any opinions on the mirrorless vs DSLR debate, or do you have any recommendations on cameras?

Mirrorless tend to have a slight markup compared to entry-level DSLR, but that's not always the case.

If you're just going to be using the kit lens with the A6000, consider an RX10 or RX100

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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2016, 06:30:06 AM »
I've always looked at cameras as tools.  With DSLRs, the lenses that you use are more important than the body.

I've never used a mirrorless camera, but I'm interested in them.  I'd like to know how responsive they are.  Certainly the small size would be a big plus when traveling.

My advice is always to learn how to take better pictures yourself, and then the camera doesn't matter as much.  Learn composition and exposure.  Learn how to "see" the light.  Photography has much more to do with the photographer than the camera.

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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2016, 08:38:59 AM »
I hope you guys don't mind if I hijack your thread a bit? My wife and I are looking at getting a new camera. We're not wanting to go professional, and we probably won't be making any special trips just for hobby shooting. We just want a good camera that takes better pictures than the crappy point and shoots we've always owned. We're headed to Napa Valley this summer, so the wife wants a nice camera to take along with her.

We've been digging around and different blogs and tech review sites have us convinced that mirrorless cameras are the way to go. More compact, lighter, lower maintenance, quicker auto focus, yet the quality still is on par with DSLR. We've seen loads of good reviews about the Sony a6000, and it seems simple enough for us to be able to use it right off the bat, but complicated enough that as we learn a little bit more, we can play around and take better pictures. But ultimately this will be used to take pictures of us, our dog, maybe some nature on our hikes, and our future children.

Do you guys have any opinions on the mirrorless vs DSLR debate, or do you have any recommendations on cameras?
My knowledge of mirrorless is a few years out of date.  But I loved shooting mirrorless.  I had a Panasonic GH2 with a handful of old Canon FD lenses, a wonky 12.5mm CCTV lens, and other weird finds.

Pros:
You can use *any* lens if you have the right adapter due to the shorter flange distance.  This is hands-down my favorite thing about it.  You can get old Nikon or especially Canon (FD) lenses from the 60s-70s for super cheap and pop them on a mirrorless with a cheap physical (no glass) adapter.
They have a smaller physical footprint than SLRs.  Lighter too.
Interface and menu system seemed more intuitive than on a Canon SLR.

Cons:
Electronic viewfinder isn't as nice as an optical one (not sure if these have improved).
Battery life on mine was lousy (not sure if that's universal).
Not as instantly-responsive or instant powered-on as a DSLR.  Slower AF.  A bit more "heavy-handed" feeling in that department.
More "gimmicky" features as nothing about them tend to be geared towards pros.

I would agree with the above that your eye as a photographer is far more important than your gear.  And within your gear, your lenses are far more important than your camera body.

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2016, 09:18:53 AM »
I got a DLSR Nikon D100 because i was having problems focusing my old film camera (Minolta SRT-100) due to my extreme eyeglass prescription.   Moved up to a D700 because I wanted pictures of bands in dark venues and bars, and didn't want to be like another photographer who used a gigantic nuclear flash.   The D700 is still among the best low-light cameras.

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« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2016, 09:29:07 AM »
I hope you guys don't mind if I hijack your thread a bit? My wife and I are looking at getting a new camera. We're not wanting to go professional, and we probably won't be making any special trips just for hobby shooting. We just want a good camera that takes better pictures than the crappy point and shoots we've always owned. We're headed to Napa Valley this summer, so the wife wants a nice camera to take along with her.

I'm happy with my Sony RX100 Mark 2, which is a point-and-shoot, and I got it second-hand (though it was like new). It sounds like you don't really need a DSLR or mirrorless. Many point-and-shoots these days allow you to tinker around with aperture, shutter speed, ISO, etc. Learn how to use these elements to your advantage, and develop an eye for composition, and your pictures will be pretty good. Also: digital post-processing. Most of the awesome pictures you see on the internet are not straight out of camera. Just be careful with that because you don't want to over-process either. But for example a photo that didn't turn out well because you used the less-than-ideal settings due to being in a hurry or whatever, can sometimes be rescued in post-processing, especially if you shot it in RAW format.

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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2016, 10:10:15 AM »
I hope you guys don't mind if I hijack your thread a bit? My wife and I are looking at getting a new camera. We're not wanting to go professional, and we probably won't be making any special trips just for hobby shooting. We just want a good camera that takes better pictures than the crappy point and shoots we've always owned. We're headed to Napa Valley this summer, so the wife wants a nice camera to take along with her.

I'm happy with my Sony RX100 Mark 2, which is a point-and-shoot, and I got it second-hand (though it was like new). It sounds like you don't really need a DSLR or mirrorless. Many point-and-shoots these days allow you to tinker around with aperture, shutter speed, ISO, etc. Learn how to use these elements to your advantage, and develop an eye for composition, and your pictures will be pretty good. Also: digital post-processing. Most of the awesome pictures you see on the internet are not straight out of camera. Just be careful with that because you don't want to over-process either. But for example a photo that didn't turn out well because you used the less-than-ideal settings due to being in a hurry or whatever, can sometimes be rescued in post-processing, especially if you shot it in RAW format.

This is the third (fourth?) suggestion about the RX100. I'll have to check that out.

I also understand what you all are saying on having the eye for photography. But at a certain point, the gear has to make at least a little bit of a difference. I've been reading and learning about different focal lengths and ISO, what different lenses do, etc. and I've already learned so much more in the past 12 hours than I've ever known before. I'm afraid that we would spend $500-600 on a fance p&s and then outgrow it quickly just from learning how to take better pictures. This could just be my naivety speaking, but I feel like the a5100 or a6000 (or a similar camera) would allow us that room to grow a little more.

The interchangeable lenses also intrigues me. Since we're going to Napa Valley, we're going to be touring wineries. Because of that, there's going to be ample low-light scenarios in the aging caves and it would be a good time to play around with a faster lens than the kit lenses. I'm not above paying a little bit more money for an extra lens or two if it means the quality of our pictures has the *potential* to be better. At the price point of the a5100 and a6000, that seems a little bit more realistic from a financial perspective.

Just some other random thoughts. Feel free to hack away.


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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2016, 11:01:37 AM »
The interchangeable lenses also intrigues me. Since we're going to Napa Valley, we're going to be touring wineries. Because of that, there's going to be ample low-light scenarios in the aging caves and it would be a good time to play around with a faster lens than the kit lenses. I'm not above paying a little bit more money for an extra lens or two if it means the quality of our pictures has the *potential* to be better. At the price point of the a5100 and a6000, that seems a little bit more realistic from a financial perspective.

Just some other random thoughts. Feel free to hack away.

Have you priced lenses you'd be interested in? Fast zooms are extremely expensive. Primes aren't as bad, but the good ones can still cost money. Going with older glass can be good on the newer mirrorless stuff (flange distance, etc.), but they're full manual, and prices have picked up again since mirrorless hit.

$500-600 is nothing when it comes to photo gear, and there's constant churn, "latest and greatest." It's definitely not a mustachian hobby.

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« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2016, 12:06:58 PM »
The interchangeable lenses also intrigues me. Since we're going to Napa Valley, we're going to be touring wineries. Because of that, there's going to be ample low-light scenarios in the aging caves and it would be a good time to play around with a faster lens than the kit lenses. I'm not above paying a little bit more money for an extra lens or two if it means the quality of our pictures has the *potential* to be better. At the price point of the a5100 and a6000, that seems a little bit more realistic from a financial perspective.

Just some other random thoughts. Feel free to hack away.

Have you priced lenses you'd be interested in? Fast zooms are extremely expensive. Primes aren't as bad, but the good ones can still cost money. Going with older glass can be good on the newer mirrorless stuff (flange distance, etc.), but they're full manual, and prices have picked up again since mirrorless hit.

$500-600 is nothing when it comes to photo gear, and there's constant churn, "latest and greatest." It's definitely not a mustachian hobby.
Yeah, if you're looking for fast lenses, I'd stay away from zooms, and go for the older stuff if it has all the features you want.  Fast zooms are insanely expensive.  Standard fast tele zoom on a Canon is a 70-200 f/2.8 II and those are ~$2.5k.

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« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2016, 04:51:19 PM »
I may not be saying this correctly, but when I say "faster" I'm referring to grabbing a 50mm f1.8 vs the 3.5-5.6 kit lens. The f1.8 is around $250-300. Much more reasonable numbers than the scary ones you guys were throwing out, haha.

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2016, 06:53:42 PM »
I may not be saying this correctly, but when I say "faster" I'm referring to grabbing a 50mm f1.8 vs the 3.5-5.6 kit lens. The f1.8 is around $250-300. Much more reasonable numbers than the scary ones you guys were throwing out, haha.
That makes a lot of sense.  I was afraid you were talking about a "faster" (f/2.8 constant) zoom lens, which is indeed crazy expensive (and heavy; my GF's 70-200 f/2.8 weighs over 3lbs alone).  Fast primes are far more accessible as you said.

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2016, 09:54:18 AM »
I recently moved from a crop sensor DSLR (Nikon D5100) to a Sony A6000. Mostly because I found myself never taking the Nikon with me due to the bulk.

I absolutely love the A6000. It's reinvigorated my passion for photography way more than I expected it to. It's super snappy to use (it's a sports car of a camera in a Civic body) very compact and makes great pictures.

But the biggest drawback is the lens selection. Don't skip lens research before pulling the trigger. Decent zooms are expensive and can quickly make the camera lose much of it's size advantage. There are some great cheap primes from Sigma but most of the Sony offerings are on the pricey side. Being a relatively new format there isn't a large pool of used stuff out there either. Yes you can use adapters and vintage lens once you get the hang of the focus peeping and focus zoom, but sometimes you need autofocus to make sure to get the shot.

As NoStacheOhio said, if you are planning to mainly use the 16-50mm kit lens then you may be better off looking at an RX100. The Sony kit lens is compact and pretty nice in good light but fails badly as the light goes so you'll be carrying multiple lens. And once you see what the A6000 is capable of with good glass it's a serious invitation to keep spending. The RX100 is an amazing travel camera with tons of flexibility (the options can just be buried deeper in menus), and while pricey for a point and shoot the dedicated lens/sensor marriage just works incredibly well. I really want one for traveling light, to be honest.

But if you are serious about exploring photography the A6000 is a great choice. An A6000 with a good prime (Sony 35mm 1.8, Sony 50mm1.8, Sigma 19, 30 or 60) is about as much fun as you can have with a camera.

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2016, 01:32:54 PM »
Rokinon/Samyang/Bower also make inexpensive primes that are pretty good quality. No AF, but pretty good image quality, and cheap.

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« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2016, 02:30:17 PM »
I used to love photography and am now getting back into it. No DSLRs yet, though--I used to use 35mm cameras and just got a used Sony DSCRX100-ii for $300, about half the retail price (plus it came with some accessories), which I chose over a used DSCRX-100-iii because it has a flash shoe so I can have the flash, if I'm using one, be positioned at an angle other than "on the camera right in my subjects' faces." The newer DSCRX100-iii replaced the flash shoe with a viewfinder, and a review I read specifically said the newer one's "upgrades" were not in the realm of image quality or sensitivity; basically they were just bells and whistles that many people, not including me, want.

I'm interested to hear everyone's experiences and plans. Seems like a good side gig!


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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2016, 01:54:05 PM »
Udemy is offering a free Photoshop class. 

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« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2016, 02:00:56 PM »
Thank you everybody. We're going to go look at the a5100, rx100, and a6000 this weekend. We'll get our hands on them, hold them, and play around with them for a bit and then make our decision. I have to admit I'm leaning towards the a6000 or a5100, but the rx100 is an interesting choice and really has piqued my interest.

Trying to get the thread back on topic:

What are your favorite things to shoot? Nature? Topography? Street Photography? Something else?

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2016, 02:12:15 PM »
Udemy is offering a free Photoshop class. 

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Thanks for that!
If I can contribute anything to this thread, I would agree with a few posters above that said the lenses are much more important than the camera.  I have had so much fun with photography in general and taking cool pictures with the new lenses I've gotten to do really shallow depth of field, fisheye, superzoom, etc.

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2016, 04:26:19 PM »
Thank you everybody. We're going to go look at the a5100, rx100, and a6000 this weekend. We'll get our hands on them, hold them, and play around with them for a bit and then make our decision. I have to admit I'm leaning towards the a6000 or a5100, but the rx100 is an interesting choice and really has piqued my interest.

Trying to get the thread back on topic:

What are your favorite things to shoot? Nature? Topography? Street Photography? Something else?
I really like landscapes, architecture and night photography.  Link to some of my stuff. http://fineartamerica.com/profiles/15-richard-davis.html

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2016, 10:34:21 AM »
I shoot professionally as a side gig (weddings/portraits/family/events), but the more I do it the more it saps the love I have for the art of it, so I try to find the right balance.  Anyone who thinks Weddings are easy needs to read up on the Dunning–Kruger effect. 

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #39 on: April 07, 2016, 03:14:26 PM »
Just got my first DSLR, a Canon T5i and I'm pretty blown away with the photos it takes - even with the kit lenses it is beautiful. I'm working on learning as much as I can about how to use the camera and photography concepts in general. It seems like a great skill to have and it could generate some serious cash if I get good at taking photos and post-processing. Wedding packages go for around $5K here in the Dallas area and I'm sure family portrait sessions command quite a high dollar figure as well.

Anyone else into photography as a hobby or profession?
You may want to get rid of that kit lens ASAP. Get couple older primes and your photo will improve. Also always shoot in manual when you can.

Not a cheap hobby unless you make it a side gig and can write off your equipment. Assuming you go down this rabbit hole, you will probably eventually end up with 2 to 3 bodies, 10-15 lenses, a few speedlights, a few reflectors/umbrella, some filters, a couple tripods, stands and bags. Of course, this does not include all the computing, storage and printing costs (e.g., a set of toner for professional-quality printer is easily $100+) ...  You will also want to buy a professional-quality monitor with color calibration hardware/software (if you ever want your prints to look like what you see on your monitor).

Of course, if you are any serious, you will probably want to load up on the photography books (there are several just on posing...), attend seminars and other money draining activities.

Money saving tip: for once in a lifetime trip, don't buy but rent your lenses (chances are you will never use that 300/f2.8 ever again :)

TL'DT: This shit adds up...
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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2016, 11:30:35 AM »
Huge enthusiast. Considered applying for MFA's at top 10 institutions, still thinking about changing directions so I can teach it at High School and University. It's hard because I love work that really moves me, and I so rarely get anywhere close to that.

Seen tonnes of famous artists, take a lot of time to talk to people in my area about photography, shoot only film (cheaper entry point but way more expensive in the long run). Wouldn't change a thing, even though there are times it's crushing when shots fail, or my work isn't as good as my hopes or aspirations I love walking around with my camera - in some ways it's an excuse to go places, walk over that extra hill, skirt under that fence, etc.

Have a look at my website please: http://mwd.photography/ - it's about a year out of date. Currently taking 24 months off updating and submitting and presenting any work, trying to work through a few projects and have some clear ideas before trying to sell images. Just uploading to instagram because I haven't quite become the reclusive uber genius who requires no validation yet.

Retired professional here

Share some images?

Anyway, here's a picture I took

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2016, 11:30:02 PM »
My partner bought himself a Canon 7D for Christmas, and I've really enjoyed 'borrowing' it to take some photos - it really was amazing to see how much improvement there was over my old cheap camera, and ipad camera. (I know a poor craftsman blames their tools, but wow!)


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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2016, 10:03:53 AM »
I work part-time as a photographer/graphic designer so I've been around the block a bit with this whole photo thing ;)

Get an old Canon Rebel (or similar entry level DSLR) used and a cheap prime lens (nifty fifty or 35 f/2.0). Shoot in manual mode (or at least aperture priority/AP mode). Learn your settings. Shoot a lot. Figure out what kind of photography you want to do (portraits, landscapes, event photography, wildlife, etc.) then figure out gear to make it easier to do that kind of photography. Buy some decent software (lightroom and photoshop basically).

Don't do weddings unless you REALLY like weddings, there are no do overs and emotions are high. Stick with family portraits or whatever if you want to try to make a buck.

I do like photography a lot, but I go through ebbs and flows. Right now I don't really like lugging around my heavy DSLR and lenses (except for paid work) and am quite happy with my Samsung Galaxy S7 camera (honestly one of the best phone camera's I've seen, great for casual shooting).

You don't need the latest and greatest gear to take great photos, you need GOOD gear, but that doesn't have to be super expensive. Old camera body + sharp fast prime lenses + good photographer = great photos (and a lot of not-so-great photos).

Photographers only show off GOOD work, don't be discouraged when you get a lot garbage, just keep shooting, keep practicing.

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« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2016, 07:02:41 PM »

Get an old Canon Rebel (or similar entry level DSLR) used and a cheap prime lens (nifty fifty or 35 f/2.0). Shoot in manual mode (or at least aperture priority/AP mode). Learn your settings. Shoot a lot. Figure out what kind of photography you want to do (portraits, landscapes, event photography, wildlife, etc.) then figure out gear to make it easier to do that kind of photography. Buy some decent software (lightroom and photoshop basically).

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Photographers only show off GOOD work, don't be discouraged when you get a lot garbage, just keep shooting, keep practicing.

Good advice here.

I absolutely love Lightroom and save Photoshop for the few photos that really need that level of attention to get where I want with an image (and those images usually get planned ahead for stacking, etc). I'll also add that you should learn about and shoot RAW format images to maximize your editing options.

I started shooting photos at about age 10 and have loved it ever since. I planned on making it a career, but in college realized that I'm a much better scientist than photographer, and that making it a job would likely suck the joy out of it. So, now it just a hobby for fun.

I really liked this book for discussing how to work with digital images. It is a different beast than film when you get into it. http://www.peachpit.com/store/digital-negative-raw-image-processing-in-lightroom-9780321839572


This may be the first photo thread ever to make it 43 posts deep with only one photo shown. Here's to make it 2.
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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2016, 02:59:15 PM »
Since we are doing photo display, here you go:

Old Cotton Spinner by Joseph Mei, on Flickr

Clammy Summer - Entry by Joseph Mei, on Flickr

Yellow by Joseph Mei, on Flickr

March_16_2015_IMGP1965 by Joseph Mei, on Flickr


November_10_2013_IMGP5884-Edit by Joseph Mei, on Flickr

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Re: Any photography enthusiasts here?
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2016, 03:38:31 PM »
Not a lot of people are talking about the usage of post processing software like Lightroom 5. I pretty much can take any random photo and make it look professional with this program. Crop out of what you want and start messing around with exposures. If you really think the photo is crap, hit the B/W button and suddenly it's a classic shot.

I learned this whole photography thing after my wife wanting to pay all sorts of people for quality pictures. It's the mustachian in me that caused me to learn photography just to save money. Watched about 4 hours of youtube videos, messed around with lightroom, and suddenly you are a semi-pro.

I don't charge money for any of my photo shoots because I do it just for fun. Everyone thinks we have a personal photographer on our payroll.




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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2016, 06:01:41 AM »
Hi fellow photography enthusiasts, I have a camera gear dilemma. It's a bit long so I didn't post it in this thread, but I look forward to your thoughts here.
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2016, 08:53:16 AM »
Not a lot of people are talking about the usage of post processing software like Lightroom 5. I pretty much can take any random photo and make it look professional with this program. Crop out of what you want and start messing around with exposures. If you really think the photo is crap, hit the B/W button and suddenly it's a classic shot.

I learned this whole photography thing after my wife wanting to pay all sorts of people for quality pictures. It's the mustachian in me that caused me to learn photography just to save money. Watched about 4 hours of youtube videos, messed around with lightroom, and suddenly you are a semi-pro.

I don't charge money for any of my photo shoots because I do it just for fun. Everyone thinks we have a personal photographer on our payroll.

LR 6 is out and it's an improvement.  But be careful with processing - some of those posted above have gone past threshold and look over-processed and have a plastic quality