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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #50 on: December 16, 2015, 06:09:37 AM »

Perhaps these are stories I should take to my grave.

Or at least... Not here.

What on earth went through your head to make you conclude "The MMM forums is EXACTLY the place for this story"?

A place to discuss anything and everything. Want to chat about sports, politics, the weather, or any other miscellaneous topic that doesn't fit in the Mustachian discussions above? This is the place.

Sounds like the right place to me?  It can be a chore to just keep talking money, money, and money after a while.

It's the right subsection, if there was one.  That doesn't mean it is fitting or appropriate for the forums.  Why on earth would people here want to read it?

In other words, people may want to talk sports, politics, the weather with other Mustachans, not just money.  Why would they want to hear the borderline offensive stuff OP is posting? 

/shrug

Your response didn't answer my question that you quoted.
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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #51 on: December 16, 2015, 08:02:54 AM »
I'll just ditto Cathy. 

Dude, [some] men are so tone deaf.  And then they wonder why women do in fact get pretty angry. 

If I was in the military, I sure as hell would keep sexual harassment/assault paperwork in my back pocket.  How anyone who has read anything about the huge issues with sexual harassment and assault against women in the military could blame a woman for trying to keep herself from being raped is beyond me. 

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« Reply #52 on: December 16, 2015, 08:21:41 AM »
The original post ("OP") in this thread is broadly objectionable for reasons that go beyond the use of the word "females" and the adjective "angry". To be sure, those linguistic choices are worth pointing out and discussing, but they are just symptoms of a more fundamental problem with the OP: namely, the OP assumes that the women mentioned in the story were interested in having sex with him, even though there is no evidence of that whatsoever.

According to the OP, the women mentioned in the OP were inebriated. On a fair reading, the women were not clearly articulating any wish other than a desire to be transported to their destination by the driver. The OP's conclusion that these women wanted to have sex with him is based on a "mythical assumption[] ... that women are walking around ... in a state of constant consent to sexual activity". R. v. Ewanchuk, [1999] 1 SCR 330, 1999 CanLII 711 at ¶ 87 (L'Heureux‑Dubé, J, concurring) (internal quotation marks omitted). The OP places a lot of emphasis on the clothing choices of one of the women, but those clothes were obviously chosen when they left their home, some number of hours ago. The clothes were not chosen for the purpose of conveying consent to sexual activity with a taxi driver many hours later (or with anyone, but certainly not with somebody they didn't even know they were going to meet until later). I acknowledge that one of the women allegedly said that "[y]ou are going to fuck me so hard", but (according to the OP) she was not speaking in a generally lucid manner, presumably due to alcohol or other intoxicants, and in context that statement cannot seriously be taken as an expression of consent to sexual activity. A more reasonable reading of the alleged exchanges is that these women simply wanted to verbally flirt to pass the time on their way home in the taxi -- not that they wanted to engage in any physical activity, sexual or otherwise.

None of us really know what happened, but if the genders of the passengers and drivers were reversed I don't think what was being said would be labeled as innocently as "verbally flirting".

I can see where you are coming from about the way he described the situation, but to describe him as some kind of sexual predator when he was the one who was avoiding talking about sex/ having sex and describing the two women as "flirting" doesn't seem too fair to me.

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« Reply #53 on: December 16, 2015, 08:32:23 AM »
Personally, I agree that the OP's initial post was in poor taste. However, I'd prefer that the thread be locked but not deleted, just on the general principle that sanitizing or censoring the truth is bad.

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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #54 on: December 16, 2015, 08:55:40 AM »
Personally, I agree that the OP's initial post was in poor taste. However, I'd prefer that the thread be locked but not deleted, just on the general principle that sanitizing or censoring the truth is bad.

I felt the same way . . . right up until someone linked me the goatse pic.  :P   I'm a little more on the fence about it these days.

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« Reply #55 on: December 16, 2015, 09:49:27 AM »
Meh I dunno. I thought the thread was entertaining. It would be pretty boring if all potentially butthurt causing posts were banned.

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« Reply #56 on: December 16, 2015, 10:11:23 AM »
Give that the OP was talking about issues he has had while driving Uber, and that doing that as a second job is often mentioned as a possibility around here, I think this is a very timely post.  It is something the anyone thinking of driving for Uber might want to realize when they choose the shift to drive.  Or while thinking if they want to drive for them at all.

ARS:  when did you get so damn sensitive? 

I'm a 60yo female, I worked around/for the military for 5 years or so as a civilian contractor.  I would absolutely HATE a woman/female/whatever the hell you want to call us who would walk around with harassment paperwork in her pocket.  Yes, I would hate the woman, not the action, because the ones like that who are just looking for an excuse make it so much more difficult for the rest of us to be taken seriously when something the actually is unacceptable happens.

Lighten the fuck up folks.
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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #57 on: December 16, 2015, 10:12:55 AM »
Personally, I agree that the OP's initial post was in poor taste. However, I'd prefer that the thread be locked but not deleted, just on the general principle that sanitizing or censoring the truth is bad.

I felt the same way . . . right up until someone linked me the goatse pic.  :P   I'm a little more on the fence about it these days.

I think everyone who clicks links on the internet needs to end up at goatse at least once just so they stop and think before clicking any more links at random.

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« Reply #58 on: December 16, 2015, 10:30:03 AM »
Call me a romantic, but I trust in the true love of Nigerian princes and the medically proven guaranteed extra nine inches of wang that miracle pills will bestow upon me.

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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #59 on: December 16, 2015, 11:13:49 AM »
It has nothing to do with being sensitive, it has to do with this simple question I still haven't seen answered: Why the * is this on the MMM forums at all?

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« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2015, 11:16:31 AM »
It has nothing to do with being sensitive, it has to do with this simple question I still haven't seen answered: Why the * is this on the MMM forums at all?

:)

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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2015, 11:18:42 AM »
Has anyone but me noticed the recent trend toward calling women "females"? I suppose it's not technically incorrect, but it sounds kind of dehumanizing, like you're talking about an animal.

Military sexual harassment training encourages this.  Girl/lady/woman/chick can all be misinterpreted.  Female is a fact.  Or at least it used to be before transgendered was a gender.
Trans isn't a gender, it's merely historical context, or a qualifier if you will, for a particular person's gender. If I had been born a woman, I'd be a trans man but my gender would still just be male.

And what's with all the bitching and whining in this thread? Read another one if you don't like it :P

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« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2015, 11:23:58 AM »
 . . . and now you know what it is like to be a reasonable looking woman out on a weekend night . . . double entendres and suggestions that having sex would be fun left and right.

Funny that guys get this so little that it is notable. And congrats on stashing the cash!

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« Reply #63 on: December 16, 2015, 11:37:55 AM »

The second-- wow-- bombshell in screw me please heels and a black tight stretchy dress with fair skin and dark curly hair. Yes, she stumbles into my car.

To me the title is offensive (angry females), but especially the part in bold above. Why does wearing heels have anything to do with "screw me"?

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« Reply #64 on: December 16, 2015, 11:46:05 AM »

The second-- wow-- bombshell in screw me please heels and a black tight stretchy dress with fair skin and dark curly hair. Yes, she stumbles into my car.

To me the title is offensive (angry females), but especially the part in bold above. Why does wearing heels have anything to do with "screw me"?

Wait you mean life doesn't follow ridiculous porno plots?

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« Reply #65 on: December 16, 2015, 11:49:49 AM »
Back in the day these were referred to by both sexes as CFM heels.  I think he merely attempted to soften the phrase, which obviously didn't work.

ARS:  I answered the question, I think.  It is a situation that anyone thinking about driving for Uber might want to know is a possibility, and choose their shift and/or think about how they would handle it prior to it actually occurring.  Therefore, since Uber driving is applicable here due to folks wanting second jobs to be able to invest more, it fits.  In My Not-So-Humble Opinion...

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« Reply #66 on: December 16, 2015, 11:53:44 AM »
Back in the day these were referred to by both sexes as CFM heels.  I think he merely attempted to soften the phrase, which obviously didn't work.

ARS:  I answered the question, I think.  It is a situation that anyone thinking about driving for Uber might want to know is a possibility, and choose their shift and/or think about how they would handle it prior to it actually occurring.  Therefore, since Uber driving is applicable here due to folks wanting second jobs to be able to invest more, it fits.  In My Not-So-Humble Opinion...

Yeah yeah, you totally have to consider the possibility of angry females coming after you if you choose to become an Uber driver. Totally a realistic thing that you should definitely consider prior to applying.

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« Reply #67 on: December 16, 2015, 12:13:20 PM »
This has been an epic thread: The adventures of the average-every-day late-night Cash-stashing Uber driver, and angry females. And those offended by the word 'females'. Does it get better? Sounds like a movie plot-line. Thoroughly enjoyed.

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« Reply #68 on: December 16, 2015, 12:36:02 PM »
It has nothing to do with being sensitive, it has to do with this simple question I still haven't seen answered: Why the * is this on the MMM forums at all?

:)

Why is a lot of the crap in Off Topic posted there?  Probably because it's Off Topic.  Was an interesting read and I'm glad he did.  Kudos to you, OP, for being a stand up guy.

I find posts along these lines so humorous that I wonder if they are tongue in cheek (but I'm guessing not).

Referring to women as "females," referring to a woman's choice of shoes as if it's any type of indication of her desire to have sex (clearly she wanted it, she was wearing a certain type of shoes after all!), and the tired old misogynistic implication that flirting equals a desire for sex so strong that rejection will make the women "angry" pretty much indicate the opposite of being a "stand up guy" to me.   


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« Reply #69 on: December 16, 2015, 12:41:23 PM »

I find posts along these lines so humorous that I wonder if they are tongue in cheek (but I'm guessing not).

You can usually look at the poster's username.

Typically it isn't, and it tells you more about the poster than anything else.  But there are a few good satirists on here.
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« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2015, 01:51:33 PM »

The second-- wow-- bombshell in screw me please heels and a black tight stretchy dress with fair skin and dark curly hair. Yes, she stumbles into my car.

To me the title is offensive (angry females), but especially the part in bold above. Why does wearing heels have anything to do with "screw me"?

Wait you mean life doesn't follow ridiculous porno plots?

I've been reading romance novels recently out of curiosity and to see if I could write some, and I've been surprised by how many female authors refer to that type of footwear as "fuck me heels." And this is for a female audience. I find it jarringly offensive every time I've read it.

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« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2015, 02:06:47 PM »
It has nothing to do with being sensitive, it has to do with this simple question I still haven't seen answered: Why the * is this on the MMM forums at all?

:)

Why is a lot of the crap in Off Topic posted there?  Probably because it's Off Topic.  Was an interesting read and I'm glad he did.  Kudos to you, OP, for being a stand up guy.

I find posts along these lines so humorous that I wonder if they are tongue in cheek (but I'm guessing not).

Referring to women as "females," referring to a woman's choice of shoes as if it's any type of indication of her desire to have sex (clearly she wanted it, she was wearing a certain type of shoes after all!), and the tired old misogynistic implication that flirting equals a desire for sex so strong that rejection will make the women "angry" pretty much indicate the opposite of being a "stand up guy" to me.

Your reply, Emilyngh, makes no sense.  Next time just roll you head around on the keyboard hitting random keys and it might be more applicable to the conversation.

But that's ok, it's in an Off Topic thread (right Rebs?).

Also...


Oddly enough being a dick still isn't allowed even if it's in an Off Topic thread. Funny that.

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Re: Angry Females
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2015, 02:14:47 PM »
It has nothing to do with being sensitive, it has to do with this simple question I still haven't seen answered: Why the * is this on the MMM forums at all?

:)

Why is a lot of the crap in Off Topic posted there?  Probably because it's Off Topic.  Was an interesting read and I'm glad he did.  Kudos to you, OP, for being a stand up guy.
Is he really a stand up guy?  He didn't cheat on his wife.  That makes him not awful in one aspect of his marriage (I can't speak to the rest of it, but I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt), but he felt like he had to brag about it, which sort of cheapens it.

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« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2015, 03:01:28 PM »
This thread brahahahahaha!!  I personally use the term female or male rather than woman or man because I find it to be the most neutral of terms without any of the masculine or feminine gender stereotypes that are attached to woman/man - i.e. womanly (soft, gentle, girlish, submissive), manly (rough, tough, in control, assertive), act like a man, womanly wiles, man-up, the womanly arts, etc... While I get that people don't like the terms male or female because it can be used for any species where as man and woman are human-specific (and hopefully anyone reading a post on MMM Forums where I say I'm a female will realize I'm a human and not a sea slug), I think male/female carry less gender stereotyping and are good words to use in gender neutral areas (like the military or where you don't know someone) to avoid assuming other people's characteristics. I also like the age-neutral thing too about male/female. Avoids the stereotypes that come with old woman/man, young woman/man,  girl/boy, gal (blech)/guy, lady/fellow and just deals with the sex of the person.
Actually I don't mind male and female, what I mind (and what I find to be common) is man and female.  Which then implies (maybe subconsciously) that females are less than males because sex identification is normally limited to non-human animals.

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« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2015, 03:11:36 PM »
I thought Mr. Tummy Mustache was being tongue/ in cheek when he called the OP a "stand up guy" since the OP was kind of being a misogynist dick. But maybe I'm wrong and just another angry female :-)!

Apparently you aren't familiar with this poster.  No, it was not tongue-in-cheek.
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« Reply #75 on: December 16, 2015, 03:14:27 PM »
My favorite part about this conversation is the fact that in this thread about sexist terminology, calling someone a "dick" is apparently okay.

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« Reply #76 on: December 16, 2015, 03:16:59 PM »
My favorite part about this conversation is the fact that in this thread about sexist terminology, calling someone a "dick" is apparently okay.

Yeah, it's interesting how that one has become somewhat gender neutral, more akin to "asshole."
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« Reply #77 on: December 16, 2015, 03:22:29 PM »
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I thought Mr. Tummy Mustache was being tongue/ in cheek when he called the OP a "stand up guy" since the OP was kind of being a misogynist dick. But maybe I'm wrong and just another angry female :-)!

Yeah...believe it or not, apparently he was being serious....
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« Reply #78 on: December 16, 2015, 03:42:16 PM »
This thread wildly spiraled way off topic from what I think the OP intended and I'm getting the sense many are casting a lot of judgment when they're not really in a position given that we weren't there.  People are more sensitive these days than before.  You have Iraq and other war vets with PTSD sitting with college students and adults who go through PTSD from browsing MMM and Reddit and are offended when people use "spokesman" instead of "spokesperson".  So you have to be very PC these days and give everyone their safe space.

And I'm pretty sure the OP was more focused on driving the women safely to their destination using the GPS than having the discussion in this thread going on in his head. 

Even if you switched the roles, drunk male, female Uber driver, the male (man) still would've lost.  Either way you're gonna get burned.

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Actually I don't mind male and female, what I mind (and what I find to be common) is man and female.  Which then implies (maybe subconsciously) that females are less than males because sex identification is normally limited to non-human animals.

I never heard man and female ever used together, wouldn't that be poor grammar? Man means male gender of homo sapiens sapiens. Female is female gender of any or all eukaryotic organisms.  And most sentences wouldn't talk about male humans and female everything else, it just wouldn't come up.  Unless in some bizarre situation an author had to exclude all female humans (women oh god don't hang me) I don't see how someone could possibly use man and female in a sentence.  Never saw it, you have to remember Americans have on average a what, 4-5th grade reading level?  I don't think many are bright enough to know how to write half the time.  And female sounds too smart and scientific for most Americans. Maybe people in my area just see each other more as equals? 

Unless of course an author meant to write man and female together but I don't know how it's derogatory?  Unless it's derogatory to the writer's command of English? I get what you're trying to say but that's a lot of thinking that most wouldn't even realize it? Most Americans aren't thinking that much into reading what they're reading.

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Is he really a stand up guy?  He didn't cheat on his wife.  That makes him not awful in one aspect of his marriage (I can't speak to the rest of it, but I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt), but he felt like he had to brag about it, which sort of cheapens it.

I get what you're saying but isn't this part of our culture?  I can't point to a specific scene but I can easily imagine a movie or TV show where the husband eyes a beautiful woman and the wife with arms on hips or crossed glares at the husband (for some reason Everybody Loves Raymond comes to my mind idk why) and then you get *audience laughs* and next line of dialogue.  So I can't really blame him if that's commonplace in our media. Not the bragging part but looking at others.  I don't think he was bragging though, more like warning.  Pick up your phone, be home on time, otherwise your girl will want to sleep with a random Uber driver.  One incident not meant to apply to all women, maybe that's why he used female idk.
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« Reply #79 on: December 16, 2015, 03:42:37 PM »
This thread brahahahahaha!!  I personally use the term female or male rather than woman or man because I find it to be the most neutral of terms without any of the masculine or feminine gender stereotypes that are attached to woman/man - i.e. womanly (soft, gentle, girlish, submissive), manly (rough, tough, in control, assertive), act like a man, womanly wiles, man-up, the womanly arts, etc... While I get that people don't like the terms male or female because it can be used for any species where as man and woman are human-specific (and hopefully anyone reading a post on MMM Forums where I say I'm a female will realize I'm a human and not a sea slug), I think male/female carry less gender stereotyping and are good words to use in gender neutral areas (like the military or where you don't know someone) to avoid assuming other people's characteristics. I also like the age-neutral thing too about male/female. Avoids the stereotypes that come with old woman/man, young woman/man,  girl/boy, gal (blech)/guy, lady/fellow and just deals with the sex of the person.
Actually I don't mind male and female, what I mind (and what I find to be common) is man and female.  Which then implies (maybe subconsciously) that females are less than males because sex identification is normally limited to non-human animals.

I don't mind "male" and "female" if they are used as adjectives (eg., the male cat).   I guess then "the female human" would be okay.   But, I find the use of female without a following noun odd.   I understand that the military has been using it for years (my father is career military) and assume that this type of use was born from good intentions of some sort.   However, in the current main stream, its use is associated with misogynistic internet culture (eg., it is the norm on certain subreddits).   

With all of that said, if the rest of the OP's post wasn't so offensive, I would've just ignored it.   Similarly, if the OP's post wasn't followed by several "keep being such a great guy, Bro,"'s I probably would have just ignored the thread.   
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« Reply #80 on: December 16, 2015, 04:07:42 PM »
so... op is being a misogynistic dick for thinking a woman wants to fuck him...after she blatantly says she wants to fuck him. This is just innocent flirting...?

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Actually I don't mind male and female, what I mind (and what I find to be common) is man and female.  Which then implies (maybe subconsciously) that females are less than males because sex identification is normally limited to non-human animals.

I never heard man and female ever used together, wouldn't that be poor grammar? Man means male gender of homo sapiens sapiens. Female is female gender of any or all eukaryotic organisms.  And most sentences wouldn't talk about male humans and female everything else, it just wouldn't come up.  Unless in some bizarre situation an author had to exclude all female humans (women oh god don't hang me) I don't see how someone could possibly use man and female in a sentence.  Never saw it, you have to remember Americans have on average a what, 4-5th grade reading level?  I don't think many are bright enough to know how to write half the time.  And female sounds too smart and scientific for most Americans. Maybe people in my area just see each other more as equals? 

Unless of course an author meant to write man and female together but I don't know how it's derogatory?  Unless it's derogatory to the writer's command of English? I get what you're trying to say but that's a lot of thinking that most wouldn't even realize it? Most Americans aren't thinking that much into reading what they're reading.

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I get what you're saying but isn't this part of our culture?  I can't point to a specific scene but I can easily imagine a movie or TV show where the husband eyes a beautiful woman and the wife with arms on hips or crossed glares at the husband (for some reason Everybody Loves Raymond comes to my mind idk why) and then you get *audience laughs* and next line of dialogue.  So I can't really blame him if that's commonplace in our media. Not the bragging part but looking at others.  I don't think he was bragging though, more like warning.  Pick up your phone, be home on time, otherwise your girl will want to sleep with a random Uber driver.  One incident not meant to apply to all women, maybe that's why he used female idk.
I shorten your quote so it was easier to address just the few items I wanted to ;)
First, to where I see man and female is more often at my job with male scientific researchers and/or MDs.  And second, yes this is part of our culture, it is part of our culture to be sexist.   We all get raised in it, and culturally indoctrinated that it is ok.  That does not mean we should not call ourselves on it and rise above how we were raised.  For example, my first experience on the Off Topic thread was a topic related to this and Sol made a comment that I feel was sexist.  Yet, excepting that I have never seen Sol make a sexist comment and more often is one of the most egalitarian men I have had the pleasure of speaking to.  I very much respect him and consider him a stand up guy (Not because he would not sleep with someone who was drunk which btw, in my state that is rape, cause of the inability to consent.  I have higher standards than that.).  He often will speak up if he sees someone being sexist (or racist).  Does that mean Sol is sexist?  No more than anyone raised in this culture.  Does that mean he is a sexist pig, no.  Because he rises above our culture, even if IMO he slips back once a blue moon.  I am sure I have done it as well.

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« Reply #82 on: December 16, 2015, 04:48:21 PM »



Oddly enough being a dick still isn't allowed even if it's in an Off Topic thread. Funny that.

Actually I find some regular posters here to be dicks including female posters. Maybe we should calibrate our dick-o-meters together, we seem to have different standards.

That doesn't mean that

1) any of them should be silenced and their posts moderated
2) I expect never to be annoyed, hurt, or shocked by their words (though it's pretty hard to shock me)

On the overalll topic, I'd like to see adults who don't like posts skip over them.

I'llI leave my opinion on using the word "female""out of it, but I think it's silly of the OP to be surprised that angry females react to the phrase "Angry females" in the title of his post. If indeed he is surprised.



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« Reply #83 on: December 16, 2015, 05:20:29 PM »
It has nothing to do with being sensitive, it has to do with this simple question I still haven't seen answered: Why the * is this on the MMM forums at all?

:)

Why is a lot of the crap in Off Topic posted there?  Probably because it's Off Topic.  Was an interesting read and I'm glad he did.  Kudos to you, OP, for being a stand up guy.
Is he really a stand up guy?  He didn't cheat on his wife.  That makes him not awful in one aspect of his marriage (I can't speak to the rest of it, but I'm happy to give the benefit of the doubt), but he felt like he had to brag about it, which sort of cheapens it.

I figured he was bragging about it because it was unusual . . . and he usually does cheat on his wife.

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« Reply #84 on: December 16, 2015, 06:53:47 PM »
Ha,
No pictures. Didn't act on any of the situations above but I enjoyed being involved in most of them. I wouldn't lie about that. I didn't do anything crazy, kept it as professional as I could, and I celebrate that as a small victory. Although I know a couple of coworkers think it's lame I didn't do anything. They said they would have. Then again no gonaherpasyphilaids for me. Thank you God

Perhaps I am perfectly equipped to deal with all I run into. Just sharing the real world. Don't need support or trophies. Had to tell someone but if I told my wife that would be the end of Uber for me. She already expressed concern that it was too close to the bars being open. Maybe I should push it to 4am to start.

Better to be lame than to end up in jail for rape. In the eyes of the law an inebriated person cannot give consent.

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« Reply #85 on: December 17, 2015, 11:30:28 AM »
If the 4% SWR rate starts to fail in FIRE I'm so becoming a cable guy who works part time as an Uber driver delivering Pizza.

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« Reply #86 on: December 17, 2015, 03:41:43 PM »
My favorite part about this conversation is the fact that in this thread about sexist terminology, calling someone a "dick" is apparently okay.

Yeah, it's interesting how that one has become somewhat gender neutral, more akin to "asshole."

This totally made me think of the dicks and assholes speech from Team America...

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« Reply #87 on: December 20, 2015, 07:53:53 PM »
I think we need to refer the man/woman:male/female topic to the grammar nazi thread. Male and female are adjectives - the male sea slug, the female earthworm.  Oops, sorry, they are hermaphrodites.  See how useful that was - male, female (only one set of sex organs in one body) or hermaphrodite (both sets of sex organs in one body).

We can also look at horse:stallion(male)/mare(female), sheep:ram(male)/ewe(female), human:man(male)/woman(female).

Re the OP, maybe he needs to do a better job defining to his dispatcher the fares he is willing to take?  That must have been very disturbing, having drunk passengers at that time of night.  Oh well, at least they weren't angry drunks (as in throwing punches type angry).

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« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2015, 12:20:50 AM »
I blame my use of male/female on the military. It stuck. Even after all these years.

The hair trigger sexual harassment charges issue figured into why I stopped at one enlistment. Was never in trouble myself for that topic but I watched alot of he said/she said situations unfold in our division.

Guys and gals/girls/females/women both behaving badly. I got my share of propositions from coworkers of the opposite gender. Also said no each time despite being single and unattached. Things were just too complicated and at the time not getting any better. I'll never forget the one female that spent a portion of our two hours together on duty telling me all about her birth control methods and how if I ever changed my mind just to let her know... She had alot of complicated relationships. Not a trouble maker but I wasn't prepared to be part of her universe.

Went through training multiple times on the topic of sex harassment though never was in trouble/under suspicion on that topic. 

Decided it was my best strategy to finish my shift and then go home. Cultivate a group of friends away from the military. This kept me away from the fights, the he said/she said situations,dealing with drunk friends, etc. That of course got me pegged as a non-team player. ;)

Original poster: good on you for staying away from the trouble in the backseat. Stay safe - those can be dicey hours. I worked alot of third shifts over the years.

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« Reply #89 on: December 23, 2015, 08:44:51 AM »
They were out at 3 am drunk, trying to bone a stranger. Lets be serious, this is probably a regular event for them. There are a lot of worse things he could have called them than "females."

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« Reply #90 on: December 23, 2015, 08:56:35 AM »
They were out at 3 am drunk, trying to bone a stranger. Lets be serious, this is probably a regular event for them. There are a lot of worse things he could have called them than "females."

Judgmental much?

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« Reply #91 on: December 27, 2015, 05:25:41 PM »
My favorite part about this conversation is the fact that in this thread about sexist terminology, calling someone a "dick" is apparently okay.

Yeah, it's interesting how that one has become somewhat gender neutral, more akin to "asshole."

LOL, This always reminds me of my late step father, a totally stand-up guy (male?) named Richard, or Dick, as he was commonly called. Once the name calling started, and the Dick word was flung, he would throw a fit, looking totally like Jerry Seinfeld's dad in the show. His arms would be up, as he loudly proclaimed............"what's with the Dick? Why do you have to be that way? Can't you think of some other word? No, it's always, he is a dick, that guy is a dick, what a dick move...................... Why? You people disgust me!"   Good times, thanks for the reminder.

Oh, and remember...................don't be a dick.

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« Reply #92 on: December 30, 2015, 04:09:20 AM »
My favorite part about this conversation is the fact that in this thread about sexist terminology, calling someone a "dick" is apparently okay.

Yeah, it's interesting how that one has become somewhat gender neutral, more akin to "asshole."

LOL, This always reminds me of my late step father, a totally stand-up guy (male?) named Richard, or Dick, as he was commonly called. Once the name calling started, and the Dick word was flung, he would throw a fit, looking totally like Jerry Seinfeld's dad in the show. His arms would be up, as he loudly proclaimed............"what's with the Dick? Why do you have to be that way? Can't you think of some other word? No, it's always, he is a dick, that guy is a dick, what a dick move...................... Why? You people disgust me!"   Good times, thanks for the reminder.

Oh, and remember...................don't be a dick.
HAHa - I always have wondered why the name Dick is short for Richard. Where did that come from?

I just did a quick search on that, and it's an odd and very old story. Basically, it had to do with shortening the name to Rich, or Ric, while writing longhand, roughly in the 1300's. It then it morphing into Dick, which didn't bear much of a negative connotation for another five hundred years or so.

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« Reply #93 on: December 30, 2015, 05:40:31 AM »
I've known several people with the last name "Dick." I don't know if it was urban legend or true, but one of my friends in high school claimed that her dad was friends with a man named "Harry Dick." I just googled it, and in addition to the famous hockey player, whitepages found 97 people with that name.

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« Reply #94 on: December 30, 2015, 06:25:43 PM »
My mom's uncle was named Richard Cox, and went by Dick. 

Having met the man, I can verify that this is true. 

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« Reply #95 on: December 30, 2015, 06:27:59 PM »
My mom's uncle was named Richard Cox, and went by Dick. 

Having met the man, I can verify that this is true.

hahahahaha

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« Reply #96 on: December 31, 2015, 01:08:13 PM »
Two angry females just tried to have sex with me.

So Im Uber driving and the first I pick up at 3am. She is drunk and I didn't notice but she got in the back with her beer. Complains about boyfriend. Says he stayed out till 6am the other day and wouldn't answer her calls. Then starts to get around to me-- 20 questions the works. I politely steer around it.

The second-- wow-- bombshell in screw me please heels and a black tight stretchy dress with fair skin and dark curly hair. Yes, she stumbles into my car.
"Do you work for lift too"
Me, "No"
"Thats too bad they have an option to tip"
Me, "Don't worry about it"
"I really want to tip you bad"
Me, "Its no big deal"
"But I give REALLY BIG tips"
Me, "Its alright"
"Hey are you sure you are going the right way"
Me, "Think so I typed in the GPS" [check GPS yes right way]
"You are going to give me the long ride. I just know it. You are going to fuck me so hard."
Me, "I can go anyway you like, just let me know"
"As long as you head south we are good"
Me *crickets*
"Hey how old are you?"
Me, "36"
"Does it get better when you are older"
Me, "Yes"
"You wouldn't Josh me would you"
Me, "No I wouldn't do that."
"How does it get better."
Me, "You figure out what you really want, and get better at what you like."
"Oh yeah, I know what I WANT. [giggles] No I don't."

Holy shit guys do not make your females mad. Thank God I have a little more control these days. No fuck-me-so-hard female in a tight dress is worth blowing up my marriage and leaving my kids with a broken home.

I know you probably think Im gay. Im not. I assure you I thought about it more than I should have.
Who cares if a couple of drunk women hit on you, is that an accomplishment or something? You have pretty low standards to be bragging about this. Or you're not a good looking guy by far. Reminds me of that guy who posted about a job modeling naked and had to add in he is  in shape, um...NOT. People who are in good shape don't brag about it, it just is.  And people who are hot don't find a few drunkards hitting on them as something worth posting about.
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« Reply #97 on: December 31, 2015, 01:55:23 PM »
My take on the original post was so far from what the angry females who have posted after it that I wonder if we read the same OP.  My take was, he was saying he had picked up 2 different fairly drunk women who were having fights with their boyfriends/so/whatever.  Being drunk and angry, they tried to hit on a random taxi driver.  The warning (in my mind) was to guys to be mindful of making your woman angry when she might go out drunk and try to get revenge in some really stupid way.  I didn't take it that he was bragging so much as saying that, hey, a woman who is both angry at her boyfriend AND drunk at OMG-late-thirty may even try to pick up someone as ordinary as me who happens to be driving the taxi taking them home.

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« Reply #98 on: December 31, 2015, 08:01:17 PM »
My take on the original post was so far from what the angry females who have posted after it that I wonder if we read the same OP.  My take was, he was saying he had picked up 2 different fairly drunk women who were having fights with their boyfriends/so/whatever.  Being drunk and angry, they tried to hit on a random taxi driver.  The warning (in my mind) was to guys to be mindful of making your woman angry when she might go out drunk and try to get revenge in some really stupid way.  I didn't take it that he was bragging so much as saying that, hey, a woman who is both angry at her boyfriend AND drunk at OMG-late-thirty may even try to pick up someone as ordinary as me who happens to be driving the taxi taking them home.

Agree With your interpretation.

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« Reply #99 on: January 01, 2016, 04:17:08 PM »
Two angry females just tried to have sex with me.

So Im Uber driving and the first I pick up at 3am. She is drunk and I didn't notice but she got in the back with her beer. Complains about boyfriend. Says he stayed out till 6am the other day and wouldn't answer her calls. Then starts to get around to me-- 20 questions the works. I politely steer around it.

The second-- wow-- bombshell in screw me please heels and a black tight stretchy dress with fair skin and dark curly hair. Yes, she stumbles into my car.
"Do you work for lift too"
Me, "No"
"Thats too bad they have an option to tip"
Me, "Don't worry about it"
"I really want to tip you bad"
Me, "Its no big deal"
"But I give REALLY BIG tips"
Me, "Its alright"
"Hey are you sure you are going the right way"
Me, "Think so I typed in the GPS" [check GPS yes right way]
"You are going to give me the long ride. I just know it. You are going to fuck me so hard."
Me, "I can go anyway you like, just let me know"
"As long as you head south we are good"
Me *crickets*
"Hey how old are you?"
Me, "36"
"Does it get better when you are older"
Me, "Yes"
"You wouldn't Josh me would you"
Me, "No I wouldn't do that."
"How does it get better."
Me, "You figure out what you really want, and get better at what you like."
"Oh yeah, I know what I WANT. [giggles] No I don't."

Holy shit guys do not make your females mad. Thank God I have a little more control these days. No fuck-me-so-hard female in a tight dress is worth blowing up my marriage and leaving my kids with a broken home.

I know you probably think Im gay. Im not. I assure you I thought about it more than I should have.
Who cares if a couple of drunk women hit on you, is that an accomplishment or something? You have pretty low standards to be bragging about this. Or you're not a good looking guy by far. Reminds me of that guy who posted about a job modeling naked and had to add in he is  in shape, um...NOT. People who are in good shape don't brag about it, it just is.  And people who are hot don't find a few drunkards hitting on them as something worth posting about.

Lighten up Francis. You clearly cared enough to post a rant.