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I am actually thinking the mail carrier threw them out to make her day easier. She was b****ing up a storm about her job, as I handed them to her two weeks ago.

I have emailed the people who were supposed to get the cards and they both say they have not. Two different states.

I heard the mail is slow this Christmas, due to whatever, but two weeks seems ridiculous.   

Anyone else experiencing awfully long mail delivery times?

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2021, 01:14:59 PM »
Yes I mailed about 25 cards to various states and some have not yet reached their destination 20ish days later.  I also ordered stamps online and they have not yet arrived either.  From what I understand the small local post offices have been hit hard by COVID, so there we go. 

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2021, 01:16:41 PM »
The mail sorting machines were removed due to Trump's attempted coup so mail is really slow.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2021, 01:19:34 PM »
Lots of small businesses got hosed by USPS this Christmas season. Priority Mail took WEEKS rather than the usual 2-3 days... that made a lot of angry customers whose packages did not arrive on time at no fault of the small business.  Basically, hubs around the US are still backed up by an unprecedented number of packages being shipped and understaffing at the postal service.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2021, 01:24:14 PM »
A small package mailed to NJ from VA on the 17th just arrived two days ago. Package from NJ on the 16th to VA still shows up in tracking as not yet leaving the NJ distribution facility.

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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2021, 01:30:51 PM »
They'll probably show up.  I'm pretty sure "throwing away mail" is a federal offense of the type that post office employees don't generally commit.  Even on bad days.

Mail is badly backed up.  A package heading our way sat in Illinois for almost 2 weeks before moving, other stuff has been massively delayed, and my wife, who collects postcards, regularly receives stuff that's been traveling for months.  I think her record is north of 6 months to receive a postcard from somewhere else in the world.

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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2021, 01:35:45 PM »
Give it time.  A priority mail from VA to OH on the 8th just arrived yesterday...

Even before the Christmas rush I've had things take 4 weeks to transit the USPS.  I wouldn't worry until it's been 2 months at this point.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2021, 01:40:43 PM »
OP here.  Not trying to be cute but it seems the USPS must be prioritizing different categories of mail. For instance, I always get my bills on time, same time each month. Not complaining, just observing.

It's reassuring (in a way) to know I am not alone in having mail take forever to get somewhere. At least it will supposedly get there, eventually, ha ha.


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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2021, 01:45:34 PM »

I have seen very slow mail and personally have had to track down two bills/notices I knew I should have received (lost in the mail) in the last month.

Another terrible thing to think of: We've also seen a huge increase in mail theft in my area - folks getting mail stolen from their boxes in front of their house and even a rash of theft in the mail box banks (where they have a central location for the neighborhood with each home having a keyed lockbox) that usually are locked and then leaving mail they don't want strewn across the block. Folks have even shown clear videos of these assholes walking down the street and checking/stealing from the boxes (wearing backpacks for the stuff they take). Porch pirates are reported every single day on my social media also with clear videos but it's happening so much (bedroom city outside major metro city) I'm not sure how our local police/USPS are even handling this. It's blatant, but it's all over the place. :(

I keep reminding myself that folks are absolutely flooding the mail and delivery services and have been for months due to the pandemic and increased ordering and mail in general is just straining the infrastructure beyond what they could have anticipated + holiday mail, and also theft is likely causing major delivery issues all over. I think the whole worker threw away stuff is a very very unlikely but can happen scenario, but I'm sure you can add that into the mix as well.

But I'd rather assume it's just overwhelming amounts of mail having to be moved, and hope for the best.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2021, 01:51:50 PM »
I have something I shipped by priority mail a few weeks ago. It at least got scanned in someplace new for the first time in weeks!

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« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2021, 02:09:05 PM »
OP here.  Not trying to be cute but it seems the USPS must be prioritizing different categories of mail. For instance, I always get my bills on time, same time each month. Not complaining, just observing.

Where are they coming from?  My general feeling based on watching packages travel around is that it's not local capacity that's limited - it's the spokes between the mail hubs that are choked.  If the bill is coming from someone in your general area, it's no surprise that they're coming on time, because there's no real capacity limits being hit.  But packages coming across the country have to run through a very, very choked pipeline compared to capacity right now, and there's no real end to that in sight.

A massive amount of USPS mail goes via air.  One might note that USPS doesn't have their own plane fleet, and one would be entirely correct.  Unlike FedEx/UPS, USPS has been contracting mail delivery on passenger airlines for an awfully long while.  This works fine, helps keep planes busy, and fails entirely when passenger air volume falls off a cliff.  It took a while for the backup to happen, but now we've got winter weather across large chunks of the country as well, which interferes with the truck routes that have been taking the slack.  Can't go by air, and the highway is non-navigable... the mail just doesn't get through.  And you end up with backups on the cross country routes.

It took a USPS Priority Mail (2 day, small flat rate box) package I sent from Dec 8 to Dec 23 to get from Boise to Huntsville, AL.

Another terrible thing to think of: We've also seen a huge increase in mail theft in my area - folks getting mail stolen from their boxes in front of their house and even a rash of theft in the mail box banks (where they have a central location for the neighborhood with each home having a keyed lockbox) that usually are locked and then leaving mail they don't want strewn across the block. Folks have even shown clear videos of these assholes walking down the street and checking/stealing from the boxes (wearing backpacks for the stuff they take). Porch pirates are reported every single day on my social media also with clear videos but it's happening so much (bedroom city outside major metro city) I'm not sure how our local police/USPS are even handling this. It's blatant, but it's all over the place. :(

Not enforcing federal code, that's for sure.  I guess that's considered racist now?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708

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18 U.S. Code § 1708 - Theft or receipt of stolen mail matter gen­erally

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains, or attempts so to obtain, from or out of any mail, post office, or station thereof, letter box, mail receptacle, or any mail route or other authorized depository for mail matter, or from a letter or mail carrier, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or abstracts or removes from any such letter, package, bag, or mail, any article or thing contained therein, or secretes, embezzles, or destroys any such letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein; or

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein which has been left for collection upon or adjacent to a collection box or other authorized depository of mail matter; or

Whoever buys, receives, or conceals, or unlawfully has in his possession, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein, which has been so stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted, as herein described, knowing the same to have been stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2021, 02:28:00 PM »
OP here.  Not trying to be cute but it seems the USPS must be prioritizing different categories of mail. For instance, I always get my bills on time, same time each month. Not complaining, just observing.

Where are they coming from?  My general feeling based on watching packages travel around is that it's not local capacity that's limited - it's the spokes between the mail hubs that are choked.  If the bill is coming from someone in your general area, it's no surprise that they're coming on time, because there's no real capacity limits being hit.  But packages coming across the country have to run through a very, very choked pipeline compared to capacity right now, and there's no real end to that in sight.

A massive amount of USPS mail goes via air.  One might note that USPS doesn't have their own plane fleet, and one would be entirely correct.  Unlike FedEx/UPS, USPS has been contracting mail delivery on passenger airlines for an awfully long while.  This works fine, helps keep planes busy, and fails entirely when passenger air volume falls off a cliff.  It took a while for the backup to happen, but now we've got winter weather across large chunks of the country as well, which interferes with the truck routes that have been taking the slack.  Can't go by air, and the highway is non-navigable... the mail just doesn't get through.  And you end up with backups on the cross country routes.

It took a USPS Priority Mail (2 day, small flat rate box) package I sent from Dec 8 to Dec 23 to get from Boise to Huntsville, AL.

Another terrible thing to think of: We've also seen a huge increase in mail theft in my area - folks getting mail stolen from their boxes in front of their house and even a rash of theft in the mail box banks (where they have a central location for the neighborhood with each home having a keyed lockbox) that usually are locked and then leaving mail they don't want strewn across the block. Folks have even shown clear videos of these assholes walking down the street and checking/stealing from the boxes (wearing backpacks for the stuff they take). Porch pirates are reported every single day on my social media also with clear videos but it's happening so much (bedroom city outside major metro city) I'm not sure how our local police/USPS are even handling this. It's blatant, but it's all over the place. :(

Not enforcing federal code, that's for sure.  I guess that's considered racist now?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708

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18 U.S. Code § 1708 - Theft or receipt of stolen mail matter gen­erally

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains, or attempts so to obtain, from or out of any mail, post office, or station thereof, letter box, mail receptacle, or any mail route or other authorized depository for mail matter, or from a letter or mail carrier, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or abstracts or removes from any such letter, package, bag, or mail, any article or thing contained therein, or secretes, embezzles, or destroys any such letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein; or

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein which has been left for collection upon or adjacent to a collection box or other authorized depository of mail matter; or

Whoever buys, receives, or conceals, or unlawfully has in his possession, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein, which has been so stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted, as herein described, knowing the same to have been stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Oh goodness I don't understand a connection of racism and mail theft - please don't think I'm implying or stating otherwise. :(

I know the videos/images I've seen have contained perpetrators of all types. It's not isolated to any one gender or race. In my original post was just wanting to mention that mail theft is definitely on the rise and a possible complication with mail of any kind arriving at its destination.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2021, 04:00:16 PM »
Yeah, Trump’s Postmaster trying to crash the USPS in time for the election didn’t intersect well with a year in which a pandemic meant that scarcely a month later, there would be a big increase in both shopping online and sending gifts to loved ones instead of giving them face to face.

Who could have anticipated that? :eye roll:

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2021, 05:30:20 PM »
Oh goodness I don't understand a connection of racism and mail theft - please don't think I'm implying or stating otherwise. :(

I know the videos/images I've seen have contained perpetrators of all types. It's not isolated to any one gender or race. In my original post was just wanting to mention that mail theft is definitely on the rise and a possible complication with mail of any kind arriving at its destination.

No, nothing about what you said.  I've just heard plenty of assertions this year that enforcing the laws on the book, as written, is racist if it impacts a single person of color, and therefore we shouldn't do any of it.

Various laws apply to stealing UPS/FedEx/Amazon packages off porches and I'm not sure about the details, but fucking with federal mail (USPS) is a federal crime, and should be investigated and prosecuted as such.

Start tossing "porch pirates" in jail for a couple years each, and I bet the problem will end in a hurry.

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My wife has received post cards that took 9 months to get here (from across the planet), so... a couple weeks is nothing!

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2021, 06:14:59 PM »
Netflix discs that used to arrive 2-3 days after my account said they shipped, are now taking 6-7 days minimum. Likewise discs that I'm sending back to them.  Netflix has a banner announcement up describing the combo of  postal overload and covid related impacts to their workforce causing big delays. So I assume this is happening in many places and many industries. One of my sisters got a small Christmas present that I mailed standard postal around the 14th-15 on the 30th.  Normally it would be a week max.

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2021, 06:20:37 PM »
I don't generally give outgoing mail to the mail carrier. 1 thing, maybe. A whole stack? They have to carry that until they get back to the truck. Seems kinda mean, but they're walking my neighborhood. I'll take it to the box or post office.

But yes, there's been massive delays. Patience is called for. It'll take them some time to get everything untangled, but the cards will eventually arrive.

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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2021, 07:06:24 PM »
My cards must have gotten to their intended recipients because people seem to have my new address! And every box we sent or ordered or that was sent to us arrived in good time. I’ve been really impressed!

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« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2021, 08:56:58 PM »
It seems to depend on the route. In our family:

FL -> WA: "Several Days" (same mail date as 17 and counting below)
TX -> ME: 3 Days
WA -> ME: 3 Days
ME -> OR: 8 Days
FL -> ME: 12 Days
FL ->ME: 17 Days and counting (taken to the main post office in the city)
ME -> FL: 12 Days and counting (taken to the main post office in the capitol city)


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« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2021, 09:14:03 PM »
Other than one package in October, mail has been fine for me. Everything arrived for Christmas.

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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2021, 09:24:10 PM »
OP here.  Not trying to be cute but it seems the USPS must be prioritizing different categories of mail. For instance, I always get my bills on time, same time each month. Not complaining, just observing.

It's reassuring (in a way) to know I am not alone in having mail take forever to get somewhere. At least it will supposedly get there, eventually, ha ha.

We've had problems the last three months getting our local utility bills on time. They are mailed in our town and are taking 2-3 weeks to arrive.

I mailed Christmas cards out the weekend of Thanksgiving and they are just arriving this last week. Most of our mail is processed through Detroit which is supposed to be one of the slowest cities in the country for the last several months (Thanks DeJoy!)

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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2021, 10:36:02 AM »
I am actually thinking the mail carrier threw them out to make her day easier. She was b****ing up a storm about her job, as I handed them to her two weeks ago.

I have emailed the people who were supposed to get the cards and they both say they have not. Two different states.

I heard the mail is slow this Christmas, due to whatever, but two weeks seems ridiculous.   

Anyone else experiencing awfully long mail delivery times?

Thanks
   

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The delivery of two  cards took much longer than usual and there are two  items mailed to me that I should have received at least one week ago.

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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2021, 02:56:35 PM »
Today I received two USPS Priority Mail packages that were mailed on 12/17.

I also got a handful of Christmas cards from Ireland, at least one of which was postmarked 12/14/20. We usually get those in five days or less, so things are still backed up.

The USPS are doing a great job, considering the circumstances. Between the pandemic and Trumplestiltskin, they have a lot on their plate.

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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2021, 05:08:44 PM »
I mailed Christmas cards out the weekend of Thanksgiving and they are just arriving this last week. Most of our mail is processed through Detroit which is supposed to be one of the slowest cities in the country for the last several months (Thanks DeJoy!)

Yes, Detroit is where a lot of my stuff is getting stuck for extended periods of time.  It's certainly a lot worse since COVID, but isn't exactly new either.  When the closed our local sort facility and shifted it to Detroit instead (a number of years back now) we started having delays and lost mail.  With them struggling pre-COVID it's gotta be a total disaster up there now.

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2021, 06:31:50 AM »
Both in-laws mailed cards to us on 12/10 or 12/13. I can't remember.

They arrived on 12/27.

They contained cash and checks and we were sure they were gone forever. Nope! Just delayed. OH-> MN.

I'm very glad I followed my intuition and did all my holiday shopping that required shipping before Thanksgiving.

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2021, 04:31:50 PM »
A card postmarked from Virginia on 12/19 got here on 1/2

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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2021, 04:34:41 PM »
Both of the packages that I mailed on Dec 14th have been delivered! The last one arrived at its destination yesterday afternoon (Jan 3rd). I guess that means the system has cleared enough that it is time to mail out my MIL's gift...

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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2021, 04:55:36 PM »
Netflix discs I mailed out on Dec 21st finally were received today. Again, it's normally a 3-5 day process. Yikes.

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2021, 05:18:00 PM »
I got a card in MD on 01/04 that a relative sent from OH on 12/09

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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2021, 06:01:23 PM »
I got a card today (in Ohio) postmarked Dec 9 from Indiana.

The postmark was from a city a few hours away from the town where the sender lives, so I am very curious as to when they actually put it in the mailbox on their end.

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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2021, 07:06:02 PM »
Someone sent me a CD from a nearby suburb that I could have driven to in 15 minutes.

It took 10 days to get to me.

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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2021, 07:54:52 AM »
I was reading a thread on another forum this morning where a bunch of Trump-ish 60+ somethings were complaining about slow mail. That was entertaining.

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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2021, 01:14:59 PM »
I live in the Allen Park, Michigan Distribution Center region.  It made the national news before Christmas with semis lined up, because there was no room in the center for more deliveries.  Our mail has been crappy for years, but since this summer...

1.  We get mail delivery maybe every other day.
2.  Some mail never arrives.  I get the daily email with pictures, so I know what should come.
3.  My mother mailed me a birthday card in early December.  It took 6 days to go from the west side of Michigan to me in Metro Detroit.  This used to be 1-2 days.

When DH died in 2019, I had multiple issues (some sympathy cards arrived opened, some were put in neighbors boxes, and some never arrived) with the mail and filed a complaint.  I was told by my local post office that the problem was the distribution center, and I had to file a new complaint with them.  I did.  The distribution center told me I had to complain to my local post office.  I gave up.

I have no trust in USPS and avoid using them as much as possible.

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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2021, 01:58:43 PM »
Others are right.  Trump and DeJoy sabotaged the post office in an attempt to stop mail in voting.  A combination of that, and increased volume due to the pandemic (I get A LOT more shit by mail than I did pre-pandemic) is what you're noticing.

Some of my cards took weeks to arrive.  I also received some cards super late.  In some cases it was nearly a month between the postmark on the envelope and actually arriving.  I assume there are still some undelivered cards stuck in transit. 

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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2021, 02:21:40 PM »
On Friday 12/18 we mailed a flat rate priority box from the west coast to the east coast.  I paid postage online and printed a label from USPS and late in the afternoon DH took it to a post office attached to a regional mail facility.  That same day, my dad mailed a package to us using Priority Mail as well, although he taped up a regular box, hand wrote the address, and then at his local post office the clerk printed a Priority label with our address and slapped on some Priority mail tape.  We were both given "estimated" arrival dates of Monday 12/21.

The package I sent arrived at his post office in time to be delivered on 12/21, but instead they delayed it to 12/22, which did fall within the 2-3 business days they advertise (but didn't promise).

His package arrived at our house Monday 1/4.  It took 8 days for it to be scanned at his the regional facility (it may have arrived earlier and sat for days), and then 9 days to make it to our regional facility where it was scanned around 1 a.m., arrived at our local post office around 4 a.m., and was out for delivery by 6 a.m.

I suspect holiday cards have been sitting everywhere as well.

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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2021, 09:29:30 PM »
We ordered some electronics parts on November 29, and tracking shows that they went from CA to NJ, then back to CA, then back to NJ and finally to NY, arriving Jan 4. We already had gone to a store in person to rebuy them... sender kindly sent us a refund and I hope he gets refunded by the carrier (DHL and USPS).

My brother-in-law in PA sent us Christmas presents which have not arrived yet.  We didn't bother mailing his yet, but will do so next week. I bet they will arrive at the same time.

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2021, 06:41:25 AM »
Mailed a package from Michigan to Indiana on 12/11 - paid for 2 days shipping.  Still not there - appears stuck in Indy.

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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2021, 09:06:51 AM »
Others are right.  Trump and DeJoy sabotaged the post office in an attempt to stop mail in voting.  A combination of that, and increased volume due to the pandemic (I get A LOT more shit by mail than I did pre-pandemic) is what you're noticing.

Some of my cards took weeks to arrive.  I also received some cards super late.  In some cases it was nearly a month between the postmark on the envelope and actually arriving.  I assume there are still some undelivered cards stuck in transit.

Let's not forget that Postmaster General DeJoy owns somewhere between 30MM and 75MM in stock to competitors to the Post Office.

1) Destroy the Post Office for massive personal profit.
2) Destroy the Post Office because it's an efficient government agency (which undermines your party's "all government is bad and should be destroyed" narrative) and is unionized.
3) Destroy the Post Office to make mail-in ballots (which favor Biden at a 3:1 ratio, because Trump told Republicans to vote in-person and they don't take the pandemic seriously anyway) arrive late and be uncountable.

There's really no downside to them trying to destroy the Post Office. This is what happens when people elect the "destroy all government" people to be in control of the government.
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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2021, 09:14:28 AM »
As part of my effort to downsize my possessions, and because I live in Covid time where not much is going on in my life, I’ve been making  eBay sales.

Normally I wouldn’t fuss around with selling the stuff for $10 to $65, I would just donate it. But I thought I could get a little bit of money and then any money I make I can donate it to an organization I like. So anyway I made the mistake of mailing many things during December.. One package too many days from December 18 through January 5 to get from St. Louis to New York. But that’s fine, I’m not begrudging the US post office their slow service because I understand they were overwhelmed, no problem.

What I do begrudge the US post office service is their mysterious tracking system where a package drops out of sight. There is no status report on it at times  in that timeframe.

It seemed that every time my buyer looked up the status there was none, so she didn’t trust that I had actually put it in the mail. Meanwhile, most times I looked it up showed  the status Although sometimes I could not see a status either.

Finally I had to ask the buyer for her email address outside of eBay so I could send her screenshots on the days that the finicky US Postal Service displayed a status.

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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2021, 09:56:11 AM »
The post office tracking system is completely useless and has been for my entire memory of it.  Literally useless, as in I don't believe I have ever had a single package successfully tracked by the system.  It starts out with the first few scans going as planned, then updates stop entirely, or you get some vague message about being delayed, then it either shows up at the destination (and the tracking information gets updated to reflect it's been delivered) or it goes into the abyss never to be seen again.  I genuinely don't understand what the point of the system is.  I think it's so they can claim they have a tracking system when they clearly don't track packages on an individual level. 

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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2021, 10:04:45 AM »
OP here.  Not trying to be cute but it seems the USPS must be prioritizing different categories of mail. For instance, I always get my bills on time, same time each month. Not complaining, just observing.

Where are they coming from?  My general feeling based on watching packages travel around is that it's not local capacity that's limited - it's the spokes between the mail hubs that are choked.  If the bill is coming from someone in your general area, it's no surprise that they're coming on time, because there's no real capacity limits being hit.  But packages coming across the country have to run through a very, very choked pipeline compared to capacity right now, and there's no real end to that in sight.

A massive amount of USPS mail goes via air.  One might note that USPS doesn't have their own plane fleet, and one would be entirely correct.  Unlike FedEx/UPS, USPS has been contracting mail delivery on passenger airlines for an awfully long while.  This works fine, helps keep planes busy, and fails entirely when passenger air volume falls off a cliff.  It took a while for the backup to happen, but now we've got winter weather across large chunks of the country as well, which interferes with the truck routes that have been taking the slack.  Can't go by air, and the highway is non-navigable... the mail just doesn't get through.  And you end up with backups on the cross country routes.

It took a USPS Priority Mail (2 day, small flat rate box) package I sent from Dec 8 to Dec 23 to get from Boise to Huntsville, AL.

Another terrible thing to think of: We've also seen a huge increase in mail theft in my area - folks getting mail stolen from their boxes in front of their house and even a rash of theft in the mail box banks (where they have a central location for the neighborhood with each home having a keyed lockbox) that usually are locked and then leaving mail they don't want strewn across the block. Folks have even shown clear videos of these assholes walking down the street and checking/stealing from the boxes (wearing backpacks for the stuff they take). Porch pirates are reported every single day on my social media also with clear videos but it's happening so much (bedroom city outside major metro city) I'm not sure how our local police/USPS are even handling this. It's blatant, but it's all over the place. :(

Not enforcing federal code, that's for sure.  I guess that's considered racist now?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1708

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18 U.S. Code § 1708 - Theft or receipt of stolen mail matter gen­erally

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains, or attempts so to obtain, from or out of any mail, post office, or station thereof, letter box, mail receptacle, or any mail route or other authorized depository for mail matter, or from a letter or mail carrier, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or abstracts or removes from any such letter, package, bag, or mail, any article or thing contained therein, or secretes, embezzles, or destroys any such letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein; or

Whoever steals, takes, or abstracts, or by fraud or deception obtains any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein which has been left for collection upon or adjacent to a collection box or other authorized depository of mail matter; or

Whoever buys, receives, or conceals, or unlawfully has in his possession, any letter, postal card, package, bag, or mail, or any article or thing contained therein, which has been so stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted, as herein described, knowing the same to have been stolen, taken, embezzled, or abstracted—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Oh yes, my Nextdoor feed is full of home security video showing package thieves as they deliberately look into the camera while they’re bending down picking up the package to steal.

One particular bad actor is being targeted by the cops after our concerted  neighborhood effort to get him. He is especially problematic because he carries a big stick, and he has violently smashed property such as plant pots, architectural details, etc. He is a scary dude.We want him off the street for a while anyway. They always come back.

But the plain vanilla package thieves are getting away with it because they know they will. No one gives a shit about prosecuting crime below assault and murder in the city. It’s a real free-for-all so Everyone come here and bring your gun so that you can shoot whenever you want wherever you want, you can thieve to your heart’s content, no one cares. A recent perp was arrested for the 80th time this year, at our local grocery store for shoplifting again. This is not an exaggeration, this is a real number.


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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2021, 11:37:25 AM »

Oh yes, my Nextdoor feed is full of home security video showing package thieves as they deliberately look into the camera while they’re bending down picking up the package to steal.

One particular bad actor is being targeted by the cops after our concerted  neighborhood effort to get him. He is especially problematic because he carries a big stick, and he has violently smashed property such as plant pots, architectural details, etc. He is a scary dude.We want him off the street for a while anyway. They always come back.

But the plain vanilla package thieves are getting away with it because they know they will. No one gives a shit about prosecuting crime below assault and murder in the city. It’s a real free-for-all so Everyone come here and bring your gun so that you can shoot whenever you want wherever you want, you can thieve to your heart’s content, no one cares. A recent perp was arrested for the 80th time this year, at our local grocery store for shoplifting again. This is not an exaggeration, this is a real number.

You need more snowbanks.   ;-)

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/mississauga-porch-pirate-caught-stuck-in-snowbank-trying-to-flee-arrested

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Re: 15 Days after mailing, Christmas Cards have not arrived. Anyone else?
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2021, 01:30:49 PM »
The post office tracking system is completely useless and has been for my entire memory of it.  Literally useless, as in I don't believe I have ever had a single package successfully tracked by the system.  It starts out with the first few scans going as planned, then updates stop entirely, or you get some vague message about being delayed, then it either shows up at the destination (and the tracking information gets updated to reflect it's been delivered) or it goes into the abyss never to be seen again.  I genuinely don't understand what the point of the system is.  I think it's so they can claim they have a tracking system when they clearly don't track packages on an individual level.

Maybe its where you live. I see tracking all the way to "out for delivery". I have a package coming from Germany and DHL is being a little scarce with details. I can see it cleared customs in Germany but no info after that. For all I know, it is almost here - or its i still in Germany.

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« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2021, 07:07:55 PM »
I mailed Christmas cards out the weekend of Thanksgiving and they are just arriving this last week. Most of our mail is processed through Detroit which is supposed to be one of the slowest cities in the country for the last several months (Thanks DeJoy!)

Yes, Detroit is where a lot of my stuff is getting stuck for extended periods of time.  It's certainly a lot worse since COVID, but isn't exactly new either.  When the closed our local sort facility and shifted it to Detroit instead (a number of years back now) we started having delays and lost mail.  With them struggling pre-COVID it's gotta be a total disaster up there now.

I heard they were hit hard by Covid and lost people. But yeah, Detroit's post office has not been good for a long time.

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« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2021, 02:45:31 PM »
Yes I mailed about 25 cards to various states and some have not yet reached their destination 20ish days later.  I also ordered stamps online and they have not yet arrived either.  From what I understand the small local post offices have been hit hard by COVID, so there we go.

I've now placed 2 separate orders for stamps online, as I never received confirmation for the first order and the items were still in my online cart--so in 6 weeks or so I may wind up with 100 forever stamps, or 0, we shall see.

My Christmas card to my relatives in Ohio still remains somewhere in transit. 

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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2021, 05:03:43 PM »
I just received a package from several states west of the Mississippi to my state east of the Mississippi. Two days.

My package in Germany is moving, but barely.

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« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2021, 12:35:33 PM »
Yes I mailed about 25 cards to various states and some have not yet reached their destination 20ish days later.  I also ordered stamps online and they have not yet arrived either.  From what I understand the small local post offices have been hit hard by COVID, so there we go.

UPDATE:

The 2 large online orders I placed for stamps arrived finally so I should now have enough postage stamps to last me until 2050.  My mother 400ish miles away finally received my Christmas card which was postmarked 11 Dec and arrived 22 Jan.

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« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2021, 01:04:55 PM »
Yesterday we drove three hours to visit our Amish cabinet makers and to  place an order for cabinets.

These guys are having extensive problems running their business because the post office doesn’t serve them anymore. By this I mean they can’t count on mail to be delivered in any kind of timeframe that’s reasonable.

These people do not do business online in any way. They have a limited telephone access.

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« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2021, 03:43:20 PM »
Yesterday we drove three hours to visit our Amish cabinet makers and to  place an order for cabinets.

These guys are having extensive problems running their business because the post office doesn’t serve them anymore. By this I mean they can’t count on mail to be delivered in any kind of timeframe that’s reasonable.

These people do not do business online in any way. They have a limited telephone access.

Yep.  USPS has gone to shit over the last year or so.  Really screwed me over with Christmas deliveries for my side gig

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« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2021, 06:23:52 PM »
On the other hand, I ordered a gift for my wife 36 hours ago and it moved 1200 miles to arrive at our house today. DW received something from overseas she ordered six weeks ago. I'm still waiting on something from Germany - it sat for a month at an export deport. Nothing complex or dangerous. It is moving again. We ordered several things online from Amazon and eBay and everything has moved quickly - even USPS. Go figure.

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« Reply #49 on: February 17, 2021, 06:33:13 AM »
We often received--on the same day--christmas cards that had been postmarked 3 or more days differently from the same Metro area.