Self-driving cars a danger to bicyclists?

[talltexan]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2016/12/20/uber_investigating_problem_with_self_driving_cars_they_can_harm_bicyclists.html

[BlueMR2]

Huh, didn't know right hooking was a thing.  Here in Ohio we have signs about cars never being allowed in bike lanes, and oddly, people respect it.  So, everyone is driving like those Uber cars, yet right hooking hasn't ever come up in the local bicycle community.  Perhaps because we expect cars to come across vs places where cars are supposed to move into the bike lane and then turn?

[GuitarStv]

You can't expect any car to know that you're in a bike lane, or to look for you when turning.  That goes for human driven and self-driving.  Always check if someone's turning to cut you off when you're in a bike lane.

I'd be surprised to find that self driving cars are any worse than people in cars are.

[I'm a red panda]

You can't expect any car to know that you're in a bike lane, or to look for you when turning.  That goes for human driven and self-driving.  Always check if someone's turning to cut you off when you're in a bike lane.

I'd be surprised to find that self driving cars are any worse than people in cars are.

Bike lanes follow the same rules as traffic though, don't they- the person going straight has right of way over the person turning.

That said, my rule of thumb biking is that it doesn't matter if you were right if you are dead.

[GuitarStv]

You can't expect any car to know that you're in a bike lane, or to look for you when turning.  That goes for human driven and self-driving.  Always check if someone's turning to cut you off when you're in a bike lane.

I'd be surprised to find that self driving cars are any worse than people in cars are.

Bike lanes follow the same rules as traffic though, don't they- the person going straight has right of way over the person turning.

That said, my rule of thumb biking is that it doesn't matter if you were right if you are dead.

Yeah, they should follow those same rules of traffic.  However, police rarely enforce misbehaviour, and drivers rarely follow those rules so I certainly wouldn't depend on them.

[FINate]

That's why they are still testing with human drivers. It will get fixed in the software and ideally added to their suite of regression tests.

As a cyclist I eagerly await the day when the vast majority of cars are driverless. An autonomous vehicle with 360 degree roof mounted LIDAR has no blind spots to speak of. And computers don't get fatigued, distracted, angry, impatient, competitive, or other human foibles that are the most common causes of accidents.