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FIREby35

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Millenials want to drive less...
« on: November 08, 2018, 06:34:52 AM »
Washington Post article with a pretty interesting stat: average person has more time in their car annually than vacation time. It could have been anti-mustachian wall of shame material but since there is hope for change, I put it here :)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/has-the-love-affair-with-driving-gotten-stuck-in-traffic/2018/11/07/328505de-e12f-11e8-8f5f-a55347f48762_story.html?utm_term=.cecbc4e7ede7

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Re: Millenials want to drive less...
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2018, 10:42:17 AM »
Unfortunately, this hits home.  I never couched my commute hours in this context, but it makes me just a little more sad.

Driving is largely a joyless chore.

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Re: Millenials want to drive less...
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2018, 11:17:55 AM »
Man, it's not even close to vacation time either . . . car time destroys it.

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Re: Millenials want to drive less...
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 11:49:27 AM »
How do they calculate vacation? 40 hour week x 3 weeks? That doesn't really seem like an entirely fair calculation.

By that methodology, I spend 2x as many hours sitting in a train (commuting to work) as I have vacation hours, counting 40 hours x weeks of vaction, but my time in a train is spent either working or reading, both of which I'd be doing regardless of sitting in a train.

But I also vacation for more than 40 hours in a given week of vacation...

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Re: Millenials want to drive less...
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 01:52:42 PM »
How do they calculate vacation? 40 hour week x 3 weeks? That doesn't really seem like an entirely fair calculation.

Yep. It's based on how many hours an employer gives their employees to replace a day in the office.

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By that methodology, I spend 2x as many hours sitting in a train (commuting to work) as I have vacation hours, counting 40 hours x weeks of vaction, but my time in a train is spent either working or reading, both of which I'd be doing regardless of sitting in a train.

The article is about commuting in a car.

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“To me, that really crystallizes the issue,” said Lisa Jillson, who leads Arity’s research and design department. “I get a certain amount of vacation time, and I spend almost three times that in my car just getting back and forth to a job.”

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Re: Millenials want to drive less...
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2018, 02:27:14 AM »
car time is podcast time for me, one of my favourite parts of the day!

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Re: Millenials want to drive less...
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2018, 06:24:24 AM »
I have spent years commuting by train and some walking, in total 2 hours a day. Fine enough when I could sit and read a book, but I have experienced so many hours delay that I either lost my own time (in the afternoon) or had to work longer (when delayed on my way to work). After many years, my train commute increase by an unnecessary 50% and that was my main motivation for finding a job with a shorter commute.

Now I work outside the city and commute by car. Commuting by car gives me a bad conscience for environmental reasons. The practical thing is that you can easily shop your groceries on the way home, or pickup something. But it still doesn't feel like my own time until I arrive home. Sometimes I brisk walk to work, which is a long walk, but it feels more like my own time, because I get exercise and can listen to podcasts. But it is time more time consuming than driving.

I can recommend working a reduced number of days, which gives a better balance between commuting time and free time.
Also working (some days) from home should be a good bargain.
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