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12 Rules for Life (An Antidote to Chaos ) by Jordan peterson
« on: March 04, 2018, 06:09:57 AM »
 I been a fan of Mr Peterson from his "youtube" presence for years and his new book covers a lot of his more salient thoughts on life .
 I wish i had it  20 years ago .
 A great read for twenty somethings and an excellent read for most .
 His recent ding dong with channel 4 in the U.K has raised his status to sainthood in a lot of his followers  minds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcjxSThD54&ab_channel=Channel4News
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Re: 12 Rules for Life (An Antidote to Chaos ) by Jordan peterson
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2018, 06:24:42 AM »
What kind of a book can I expect if I have no idea who this guy is?

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Re: 12 Rules for Life (An Antidote to Chaos ) by Jordan peterson
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2018, 09:05:34 AM »
Sorry for my vagueness grant.
Maybe watch a few YouTube videos of his first and see if  you find his theology and theory appealing.
 Life analysis and personal growth type of thing without the flowery  overtone.

 

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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2018, 09:56:19 AM »
worth a read?

I have listened to a podcast with him and Joe Rogan, and also the channel 4 news.

He speaks sense a lot, but I cant figure out if he is part troll.

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 11:40:48 AM »
I read it and found it generally useful/ interesting.  He makes good points about how to navigate a crazy world without becoming totally nihilistic.  My main complaint is that there are several long tangents regarding the "proper" reading of the bible.  If you aren't his brand of christian, it can be a bit off putting, but not directly offensive.  I'd recommend it, but be ready to skip a few pages every now and again.

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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2018, 03:40:13 PM »
Watched the video in the OP. Wow, this guy is awesome. I think I would have stood up and walked out after 5 minutes. She deliberately twisted everything he said to make him sound foolish. She must really hate what he stands for in order to attack like that.

"So you're saying..."
"No. I didn't say anything like that."

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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2018, 03:59:18 PM »
Funny, somebody posted something from Jordan Peterson in a thread about divorce this weekend and I fell HARD through the youtube wormhole. I find him pretty entertaining and perfect to listen to while doing chores--stimulating but not too dense. Got a lot of dishes, floors, and laundry folding done to his lectures over the past four days.

I'm too cheap to buy his book--it's not in the library yet--and there's so much on youtube from him I think I'm getting the general gist of what the book has to say. I mean, there is literally an entire interview series on youtube with segments on each chapter in the book.

I quite like what he has to say about marriage, divorce, and raising children. Also appreciate his candid tone and the fact that he maintains a sense of humility and self-awareness--it really saves him from coming across as just another arrogant conservative blowhard.

I've listened to enough and read enough about him to cautiously consider myself a fan.
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Re: 12 Rules for Life (An Antidote to Chaos ) by Jordan peterson
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 03:25:25 AM »
I'm a fan of Jordan Peterson, and I'm partway through his latest book.

When I was first exposed to him (via the Waking Up podcast, episode #62) I admit that I thought he was something of a religious crank. But after hearing him speak on other podcasts (Joe Rogan, Jocko Willinck) and various Youtube videos (including the infamous Channel 4 interview) I realize that his views are much more intelligent and nuanced than I first gave him credit for. I mention this because I think it's quite easy to get a bad first impression of Jordan Peterson given the unfair media reception he receives, and the controversial areas he often touches upon (religion, gender, politics).

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 04:16:13 AM »
Funny, somebody posted something from Jordan Peterson in a thread about divorce this weekend and I fell HARD through the youtube wormhole.

Same here.  I liked a lot of what he said about marriage and relationships, but he lost me when he started talking about things like religion and gay marriage. I guess it proves that someone can have wisdom in a specific area, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are wise in all areas.

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2018, 06:18:28 AM »
I have his book now.... wondering when to start it... got many to read on my list!

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Re: 12 Rules for Life (An Antidote to Chaos ) by Jordan peterson
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2018, 06:26:35 PM »
I am little confused about your aversions to the religion side of things. As far as I can tell he reads the bible from an archetypal and mythological viewpoint, not from a purely religious one. Have you watched the bible lectures? They are actually quite interesting and made me appreciate the bible even as a non-christian.

His newest podcast with Warren Farrell is excellent, and something that needs to be talked about in society, but is largely ignored.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5O_FLUWYmg

I haven't really heard his thoughts on gay marriage, can you link a video or summarize?

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2018, 04:02:18 PM »
He's been making the interview rounds recently with his new book coming out. He did an interview with The Economist and with The Art of Manliness. I agree with what other posters have said, I think he is generally well-spoken and thoughtful, and while I don't agree with everything he says I appreciate his voice and his contributions. He is a conservative so the media don't typically portray him very fairly (Vox in particular wrote a piece on him that I thought was incredibly skewed and unfair, and I tend to really like Vox).

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2018, 08:31:56 AM »
I've listened to quite a few of his interviews and lectures.

I find him a bit too bellicose at times, but his underlying views are pretty compelling.

The hit pieces that have been done on him tend to grasp at straws. For example the NYT did a story that pointed out the hypocrisy in his advice to "stand up straight with your shoulders back" while at the same time wearing jeans and socks when the camera is aimed at his top half, a blazer and collared shirt. Vice seemed to point their camera to highlight this as well. And while it does showcase his less than stylish tendencies, it doesn't really amount to any significant rebuttal to his worldview. But at least it's better than the straw man attacks that other left leaning publications will do on him.

I prefer the tempered nature of someone like Jonathan Haidt. Peterson kind of veers back and forth between being overly scholarly in tone, with phrases like "postmodern neo-marxist" and being hypermasculine with his notion that the threat of violence underlies all interactions between two men.

Haven't read the book, but I'm sure I'd get something out of it based on what I've heard so far.

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2018, 10:03:36 AM »
I'm a fan from various podcasts and youtube videos and am halfway through the book. I don't agree with his entire worldview and find him unnecessarily prickly at times but the life advice in 12 Rules is super solid, if sometimes too weighed down by the myth, archetype and "post modern neomarxist" talk.

Many people who only know him from youtube and the recent political controversies don't realize he was a practicing clinical psychologist for 25 years (or so) and the 12 Rules advice comes as much from direct experience helping struggling people as it does from his professorial career.

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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2018, 10:16:34 AM »
I don't know anything about this author/book but was a little annoyed no one bothered to list the 12 things in this thread. From Wikipedia:
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  • Stand up straight with your shoulders back
  • Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping
  • Make friends with people who want the best for you
  • Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today
  • Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
  • Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world
  • Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient)
  • Tell the truth or, at least, don't lie
  • Assume that the person you are listening to might know something you don't
  • Be precise in your speech
  • Do not bother children when they are skateboarding
  • Pet a cat when you encounter one on the street