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greenmimama

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is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« on: May 22, 2015, 07:26:15 AM »
Like one they could start with a small amount of money?

My kids have 7 years and more till they will need the money they are saving for cars or college, so I'd love to put it somewhere they could see it growing, great lesson to learn at a young age.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 07:30:30 AM »
Would a UTMA be what you might be looking for?

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 09:13:46 AM »
Minors are not allowed to buy/own stock or securities. You'd have to set up the UTMA or custodial account of some sort.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 10:28:00 AM »
The minimum for some funds like the Target Retirement 2060 Fund, is $1000 for UTMA accounts.

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=1691&FundIntExt=INT

If they don't have that much yet, you could keep a Mom's or Dad's ledger that shows how many shares they own in one of your accounts. You'll just have to add the right amount of reinvested shares each quarter when dividends are added. When it gets to $1k you could start their own accounts. Prepare them for the fact that their values could drop 50% occasionally, but it's OK and will grow in the long term.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2015, 04:26:01 PM »
The minimum for some funds like the Target Retirement 2060 Fund, is $1000 for UTMA accounts.

https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/snapshot?FundId=1691&FundIntExt=INT

If they don't have that much yet, you could keep a Mom's or Dad's ledger that shows how many shares they own in one of your accounts. You'll just have to add the right amount of reinvested shares each quarter when dividends are added. When it gets to $1k you could start their own accounts. Prepare them for the fact that their values could drop 50% occasionally, but it's OK and will grow in the long term.

Thats a thought, we are going to match a certain amount of money that they save for their first car or college, because we will be talking to them about how they don't need cars, they could share :)

I had thought for sure I had seen junior accounts like a mutual fund, where they would let you start it with as little as $25 or something like that. Not VanGuard, but just on an advertisement or something.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2015, 08:35:19 PM »
Vanguard still seems to have a $1,000 minimum ("The minimum initial investment for a Vanguard UGMA/UTMA is generally the same as that for regular accounts, which is $3,000 in most cases ($1,000 for Vanguard Target Retirement Funds).").

Schwab, however, will let you in for as little as $100: http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/investing/accounts_products/accounts/college_savings/custodial_account.

See also http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/investor-alley/where-to-start-a-child%27s-roth-ira-with-very-low-income/.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2015, 08:40:39 PM »
We went the $1000 minimum route with Target Retirement 2055 in a UTMA for our kids. We saved up the Christmas and B-day money till they had $1000 then opened the account. 

I think you can open a brokerage account and do free trades of ETFs.  Not sure if there is a minimum there, but you could potentially buy a single share of VTI or whatever for $100 or so. 

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2015, 06:21:27 AM »
We went the $1000 minimum route with Target Retirement 2055 in a UTMA for our kids. We saved up the Christmas and B-day money till they had $1000 then opened the account. 

I think you can open a brokerage account and do free trades of ETFs.  Not sure if there is a minimum there, but you could potentially buy a single share of VTI or whatever for $100 or so. 

I think you need $1k for the brokerage account too.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2015, 06:23:06 AM »
Vanguard still seems to have a $1,000 minimum ("The minimum initial investment for a Vanguard UGMA/UTMA is generally the same as that for regular accounts, which is $3,000 in most cases ($1,000 for Vanguard Target Retirement Funds).").

Schwab, however, will let you in for as little as $100: http://www.schwab.com/public/schwab/investing/accounts_products/accounts/college_savings/custodial_account.

See also http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/investor-alley/where-to-start-a-child%27s-roth-ira-with-very-low-income/.

I would caution against Schwab because this may be their primary account for the rest of their life, and Vanguard is going to save them a lot of money over the long run with the lower fees. Schwab has some low-cost funds, but they are always geared towards moving investors to their profit centers.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2015, 10:38:04 AM »
I would caution against Schwab because this may be their primary account for the rest of their life, and Vanguard is going to save them a lot of money over the long run with the lower fees. Schwab has some low-cost funds, but they are always geared towards moving investors to their profit centers.
Good point, and we do have our own mutual funds in Vanguard and Fidelity Spartan.  For the specific case of a low dollar hurdle to get a Custodial Roth IRA established, however, Schwab seems to have Vanguard and Fidelity beat.  And yes, it only continues to make sense if one uses their commission-free low cost ETFs, e.g. some of the ones in this list:


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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2015, 11:27:21 AM »
Thank you everyone, maybe we will just take what they have earned and do our match now for their car ahead of time so their money can grow and it could be a good life lesson.

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Re: is there a Vanguard account for kids?
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2015, 12:13:42 PM »
Happy to help <tip of the top hat>