Author Topic: Good information/summary on tax/saving infor for teens?  (Read 2899 times)

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Good information/summary on tax/saving infor for teens?
« on: December 05, 2019, 12:23:05 PM »
My 16 year old will probably have earned (W-2) about 3,000 by the end of the year from a few jobs (summer camp counseling and retail). He spends nothing, and I'm trying to figure out what the best options are for him to:

- pay less in taxes (a surprising chunk of his paycheck went to taxes)
- do some tax advantaged saving

I have already set up a custodial account at Fidelity, invested in the zero cost index fund. Should he add more to that account? Or - start a Roth IRA or a regular IRA?

I know there's mountains of information out there and I've started looking at it. But what I would really appreciate is a pointer to some high quality summary-type information on this topic.

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Re: Good information/summary on tax/saving infor for teens?
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2019, 12:40:29 PM »
Since you're going to claim him on your taxes, the amount taken out for taxes is basically a wash in the end - assuming you have income. I would have him put everything he can either to a 529 or a Roth IRA.

Another bit of advice, if I may: My dad gave me the foundation of "you're allowed to spend 10% of what you make. 90% should go to your college education". This was excellent advice, and looking back I probably wouldn't have done anything different except possibly starting a Roth.

Ultimately, there was two things I wish my dad had done for my financial education - and I can understand why he didn't or why it wouldn't be appropriate - and that was (1) involve me in the actual finances of the home, and (2) show me and teach me about retirement accounts (and HSA accounts, but he had no clue about their existence until 5 years ago - I don't think he had an option of one).
 
I understood to save as much as I could, but I wish I had understood it better. I was sort of flying blind and learning on my own. Sort of. I wish he had showed me how much he earned, how much the household cost to run, how much I could expect to earn out of college, estimate my expenses, etc. I'd have done things ever so slightly differently. Ultimately I wouldn't be in a different place, but I do wish the education had happened earlier.

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Re: Good information/summary on tax/saving infor for teens?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2019, 12:49:58 PM »
My 16 year old will probably have earned (W-2) about 3,000 by the end of the year from a few jobs (summer camp counseling and retail). He spends nothing, and I'm trying to figure out what the best options are for him to:

- pay less in taxes (a surprising chunk of his paycheck went to taxes)
- do some tax advantaged saving

I have already set up a custodial account at Fidelity, invested in the zero cost index fund. Should he add more to that account? Or - start a Roth IRA or a regular IRA?

I know there's mountains of information out there and I've started looking at it. But what I would really appreciate is a pointer to some high quality summary-type information on this topic.
Taxes withheld are typically calculated based on what a worker would earn over the course of the year.  As your child is going to earn ~$3,000 he should get all income taxes back upon filing.

Total deduction for a child listed as a dependent is Income Earned + $350, up to a maximum of $12,200.

Investing in a Roth IRA is the way to go here.  FWIW, the best lesson my father ever taught me was when he showed me 'the graph' of compound interest and how money I socked away when I was in my teens could be worth 16x as much by the time I was my father's age.  He also outlined how if I did nothing else but funded my IRA every year (starting as a teenager) I could be a millionaire in my 50s.  That lesson stuck.

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Re: Good information/summary on tax/saving infor for teens?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2019, 09:59:31 PM »
Good advice from previous posters.

If your son will have similar income next year, he can avoid federal withholding (in other words, get his money immediately rather than give the IRS an interest-free loan and have to wait for a refund after filing) by claiming exemption from withholding on his 2020 W-4: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf.

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Re: Good information/summary on tax/saving infor for teens?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 09:38:34 AM »
Thanks everyone for the advice. Sounds like a Roth IRA is definitely the way to go.

Will be sure to look into not having federal income tax withdrawn next year.