Author Topic: Australia - PPL.  (Read 2057 times)

AliEli

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 70
  • Location: Melbourne Australia
Australia - PPL.
« on: October 23, 2016, 06:51:15 AM »
Has anyone in Australia been following this?

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/parental-leave-crackdown-to-hurt-mums-says-labor-20161023-gs8lnk.html

Bub #1 is due in the first week of January, so I may be one of the first mums affected by this.  I feel quite grumpy that the coalition has swung from one extreme to the other on this issue - did they take this to the election?  It was early days of pregnancy for me, so the election is a bit of a blur for me now.

Anatidae V

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 8865
  • Age: 29
  • Location: Fourecks
  • Nullus Anxietas
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2016, 07:35:36 AM »
This is the first I heard about it. I don't actually know how it works at the moment. I get 12 weeks ppl from my employer so I haven't bothered looking at what Centrelink involves (paperwork and more paperwork...).

How does it work at the moment?

marty998

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 5987
  • Location: Sydney, Oz
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2016, 02:27:04 PM »
18 weeks minimum wage is the government scheme (which does not include super(?))

Not an expert on this by any means but it's interesting they they "crack down" on double dipping mums when their policy is designed to top up employer schemes which do not meet the minimum government scheme.

I notice they are not cracking down on the double dipping by Phillip Ruddock who is drawing a $200,000 taxpayer funded pension while doing contract work for the Government at the UN...

HappierAtHome

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 9819
  • Location: Australia
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2016, 11:22:02 PM »
This is the first I heard about it. I don't actually know how it works at the moment. I get 12 weeks ppl from my employer so I haven't bothered looking at what Centrelink involves (paperwork and more paperwork...).

How does it work at the moment?

Right now you can claim it while you're on unpaid leave, following your employer's paid parental leave. It's close to $10k I think - probably worth the paperwork!

Anatidae V

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 8865
  • Age: 29
  • Location: Fourecks
  • Nullus Anxietas
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2016, 11:55:12 PM »
This is the first I heard about it. I don't actually know how it works at the moment. I get 12 weeks ppl from my employer so I haven't bothered looking at what Centrelink involves (paperwork and more paperwork...).

How does it work at the moment?

Right now you can claim it while you're on unpaid leave, following your employer's paid parental leave. It's close to $10k I think - probably worth the paperwork!
Oh, I remember now. I recall the "double dipping" debate from a while ago, and its silly because it isn't "double dipping" if the rules say you can definitely take both. Ugh politics.

18 weeks minimum wage is the government scheme (which does not include super(?))

Not an expert on this by any means but it's interesting they they "crack down" on double dipping mums when their policy is designed to top up employer schemes which do not meet the minimum government scheme.

I notice they are not cracking down on the double dipping by Phillip Ruddock who is drawing a $200,000 taxpayer funded pension while doing contract work for the Government at the UN...
+1 to all of that.

AliEli

  • 5 O'Clock Shadow
  • *
  • Posts: 70
  • Location: Melbourne Australia
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2016, 12:26:36 AM »
18 weeks minimum wage is the government scheme (which does not include super(?))

Not an expert on this by any means but it's interesting they they "crack down" on double dipping mums when their policy is designed to top up employer schemes which do not meet the minimum government scheme.

I notice they are not cracking down on the double dipping by Phillip Ruddock who is drawing a $200,000 taxpayer funded pension while doing contract work for the Government at the UN...

Didn't Joe Hockey's wife take both forms of maternity leave prior to him becoming treasurer?  If the policy was such a winner, why weren't the coalition mark 1 selling this nonsense rather than their "gold-plated scheme" that went nowhere?  I'm feeling very grumpy that this is likely going to affect my income while I am on leave after bubs arrives.

Primm

  • Handlebar Stache
  • *****
  • Posts: 1332
  • Age: 49
  • Location: Australia
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2016, 12:30:17 AM »
Oh god, there goes another Christmas.

The last time something like this happened (cutting back on the Baby Bonus) we (maternity hospital) had an absolute shit-tonne of "elective c-section for maternal reasons" in the week between Christmas and NY. Seriously, any mum over 35 weeks came in and tried to get their OB to induce/section them. With a corresponding spike in admissions to my NICU of babies who needed respiratory support because - surprise, surprise - they weren't fully developed yet.

I wish when they changed things like this they did it so the women who were already pregnant could claim it no matter what date they delivered, and the women who weren't yet pregnant got the "reduced" amount. Of course I wish they'd never reduce things like PPL, but that's never going to happen.

PDM

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 600
  • Location: Australia
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2016, 11:27:16 PM »
So been following this bit of legislation with keen interest...so to get through the senate it needs support from the independents. Labor and Greens oppose - meaning they need pretty much all the rest of them.

NXT - DID support with delayed start but now no longer do due to pre election promises.
One Nation Party - supports
David Leyonhjelm - previously supports (may no longer be in senate due to bankrupcy)
Derryn Hinch - supports with delayed start 1 July

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-31/xenophon-wont-support-paid-parental-leave-changes-current-form/7979602

So at this moment seems like it might not pass the senate - at the very least in its current form.

marty998

  • Walrus Stache
  • *******
  • Posts: 5987
  • Location: Sydney, Oz
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2016, 12:42:46 AM »
Bob Day (Family First) is the bankrupt Senator. Leyonhjelm is the gun nut.

Will be interesting to see how Bob Day reconciles the party's "keep mum at home and in the kitchen" ideals with the fiscal conservative policies. Will require some serious backflipping with a double pike to hold both positions.

Thats the problem with minor parties... they might be strong on one issue but when you have to tie it all together they simply get tied in knots.

PDM

  • Pencil Stache
  • ****
  • Posts: 600
  • Location: Australia
Re: Australia - PPL.
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2016, 03:29:42 AM »
My bad. Neither support it.