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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #300 on: December 05, 2017, 05:12:25 PM »


Also just checked my email and there is no number listed, just says Smith group. So I'm assuming my site is between 108 and 113 but not sure how that was figured out, or I guess 94 knew which ones she requested maybe. Does everyone else' email give them an exact Site #?

Good question, I was wondering how everyone got site numbers also.  I asked when booking and was told she was not assigning us a site but we would be at the top of row 3. 

Email just says this

Arriving:        18 Oct 2018                Adults: 2                Site Type: CAN Premium PT FHU 50AMP       

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #301 on: December 05, 2017, 05:30:08 PM »
I asked for a site next to CanuckExpat, so I was told a specific number.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #302 on: December 05, 2017, 08:36:16 PM »
Nice! That's all of Row 8 booked to Mustachians.

Let's start filling row 7, and the last RV spot in row 6. :D

Row six also has cabins to fill up! For anyone who doesn't want to tent or RV:
"The cabins have two sets of bunk beds that have a double on the bottom and a twin on the top. With the exception of our handicap cabin that has 3 twins and only one double. Our cabins also have A/C, heater, mini refrigerator, T.V., picnic table, and fire pit. The restrooms and showers are two rows away. "


I asked for a site next to CanuckExpat, so I was told a specific number.

That's funny, you made me check my email, and we don't have a site number in the email. Didn't think about it until this conversation. But good to know we probably have one

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #303 on: December 05, 2017, 10:22:09 PM »
Clarification: Thread title says 18th, the post I quoted says the 19th. Which is it?  I didn't mention dates, just the group name and she knew which one.
Yep, my bad.  In my quoted post, I should have put Oct 18.

My reservation is for arrival Thur Oct 18, leaving on the morning of Mon Oct 22.

It also shows "Smith Group" even though I asked for a specific site in row 7.  It doesn't matter.  This will be fun.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #304 on: December 07, 2017, 09:05:30 AM »
Finally got through. I have the last site in Row 6. They have no more RV sites for the smith group but can add if needed.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #305 on: December 07, 2017, 09:27:26 AM »
The following have booked a site at Canyonlands campground for the "Oct 18-22, 2018 - Moab, Utah" MMM Meet Up.

Row 3   (Large RV Sites)
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Row 7 (Tent Sites 103-106)
avrex & jordanread

Row 8  (Tent Sites 108-113)
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #306 on: December 07, 2017, 09:46:20 AM »
The following have booked a site at Canyonlands campground for the "Oct 18-22, 2018 - Moab, Utah" MMM Meet Up.

Row 3   (Large RV Sites)
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Row 6   (Small RV Sites)
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Row 7 (Tent Sites 103-106)
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Row 8  (Tent Sites 108-113)
LWTG & Stasher
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Row G [Tents w/ No Services]
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I just change my reservation to Row G as I am staying longer than the event and I like those sites better so I figured I would save myself the hassle of moving camp. It's a 30 sec walk from the "Smith Group" tents in Row 8 to the "Outer Reaches" in Row G.

I asked them to leave my Row 8 site held for the Smith Group if anyone wants it.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #307 on: December 07, 2017, 01:26:24 PM »
Finally got through. I have the last site in Row 6. They have no more RV sites for the smith group but can add if needed.

Sweet!  Looking forward to seeing you, neighbor!  :)
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #308 on: December 07, 2017, 01:29:09 PM »
What's the actual cost per day for these things, anyways? I just booked and they charged a $61.something deposit, but I realized I have no idea what the cost per night is.  We probably will want to stay longer, and if this place books up, I might just want to book a few extra days on the front or back end now, before those days sell out (even if that's 5 months from now or whatever).  Could cancel those days later anyways, I suppose and get a refund.

Also I never got a emailed receipt as promised. Did anyone else not get one? Maybe they typo'd my email when recording it?
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #309 on: December 07, 2017, 02:17:24 PM »
Deposit is one night. So what ever they charged you is the nightly cost for your site.

I got two emailed receipts (saying same thing but with different names)

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #310 on: December 07, 2017, 02:26:26 PM »
Is this mostly a hiking or mountain biking adventure? Or both?

I am a cyclist, but haven't done much mountain biking. But I can train for it beforehand. I am actually excited to possibly try some "real" mountain biking, being from flatland Florida and all. We do have some mountain biking trails around here. I have mostly done the easy inter-trail rock filled roads between the real trails on my hybrid bike, and have also gone riding on a beach path with hard packed sand (interspersed with some soft patches so requires some skill there) also on my hybrid bike.

Is there any paddling (canoeing/kayaking) around there as well?

Although the best part of this trip is to celebrate 94's retirement and hang out with cool (current and future) FIREees.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #311 on: December 07, 2017, 03:04:25 PM »
Is this mostly a hiking or mountain biking adventure? Or both?

Is there any paddling (canoeing/kayaking) around there as well?

Yes to all of the above. You can bike, hike and paddle in the Moab area.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #312 on: December 07, 2017, 03:05:31 PM »
We probably will want to stay longer,

I'll be there with friends from 13-22 Oct 2018. I may or may not stay 23-26 Oct 2018 as well.

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« Reply #313 on: December 07, 2017, 03:06:43 PM »
Is this mostly a hiking or mountain biking adventure? Or both?

Is there any paddling (canoeing/kayaking) around there as well?

Yes to all of the above. You can bike, hike and paddle in the Moab area.

My new FPP...4 days is not enough time to enjoy all that Moab has to offer.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #314 on: December 07, 2017, 03:11:01 PM »
My new FPP...4 days is not enough time to enjoy all that Moab has to offer.

A couple weeks at a time and 4 visits wouldn't scratch the surface. I've been going for 25yrs. Love the place. I just bike. Haven't even gotten around to paddling or hiking.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #315 on: December 07, 2017, 03:33:23 PM »
Is this mostly a hiking or mountain biking adventure? Or both?

I am a cyclist, but haven't done much mountain biking. But I can train for it beforehand. I am actually excited to possibly try some "real" mountain biking, being from flatland Florida and all. We do have some mountain biking trails around here. I have mostly done the easy inter-trail rock filled roads between the real trails on my hybrid bike, and have also gone riding on a beach path with hard packed sand (interspersed with some soft patches so requires some skill there) also on my hybrid bike.

Is there any paddling (canoeing/kayaking) around there as well?

Although the best part of this trip is to celebrate 94's retirement and hang out with cool (current and future) FIREees.



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Just to help give you ideas: http://www.discovermoab.com/colorado_river.htm

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #316 on: December 07, 2017, 04:48:41 PM »
So we should just stay the entire month of October or something? :)


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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #317 on: December 07, 2017, 04:55:16 PM »
So we should just stay the entire month of October or something? :)

I'm tempted to book extra random nights that month, but with a gap in between. So we can boondock, then go there and dump/fill up and stay for a bit, then boondock, then go back, etc.

Mix staying there every little bit for a night (plus the 4 MMM nights) with mostly boondocking in the nearby area.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #318 on: December 07, 2017, 05:09:25 PM »
So we should just stay the entire month of October or something? :)

What is a non RV dweller to do...new FPP problems.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #319 on: December 11, 2017, 03:49:24 PM »
Posting to follow...this is mighty tempting...



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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #320 on: December 11, 2017, 04:10:20 PM »
Posting to follow...this is mighty tempting...

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #321 on: December 11, 2017, 05:59:35 PM »
Posting to follow...this is mighty tempting...

Doooooo iiiiiitttttt!!!  It is going to be SO MUCH FUN!!!  :D
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #322 on: December 11, 2017, 08:30:17 PM »
I searched for hostels in the Moab area to supplement the days I am not with the group camping and found this hostel. It had good reviews on Trip Advisor and Yelp.

The dorm rooms and private rooms are very cheap.

They also have houses that can house 10-20 people. It looks like an interesting alternative.

Does anyone have any experience with this hostel?

http://www.lazylizardhostel.com/

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #323 on: December 11, 2017, 08:36:36 PM »
I do not have experience with it, but there's a good chance I will be in Moab in the next few months, and could drop in and check it out, if that would help.
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« Reply #324 on: December 11, 2017, 08:38:07 PM »
Does anyone have any experience with this hostel?

http://www.lazylizardhostel.com/

I had a friend stay there. There general vibe I got from his feedback was that it was cheap and okay, but on the rundown side of what you might expect from a hostel.

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #325 on: December 11, 2017, 08:42:17 PM »
I do not have experience with it, but there's a good chance I will be in Moab in the next few months, and could drop in and check it out, if that would help.

Great!

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #326 on: December 15, 2017, 01:20:44 PM »
The only time I was ever in Moab was when I was camping there in early Sept, a few years back.  We normally do car/tent camping.  However, for that trip, we were in a rented RV.  (We don't normally rent RVs, but I found a sweet $1 RV repositioning deal that I couldn't refuse.)

Even though we were in an RV, as I recall, the night time temperatures in Moab were perfect for tent camping.

Well, I just looked it up, and I'll admit it....I didn't realize how cold the nights in Moab will be, at the time of year of our MMM meetup.

The average low is not much above freezing.
37 F  /  3 C
 
My eventual plan is to buy a RV/travel trailer for road trips when both my wife and I are retired.
I do enjoy tent camping and I don't think I want to accelerate my RV/travel trailer purchase plans just yet.

So, it looks like I'll need to purchase some type of heater for my tent.  Brrr.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #327 on: December 15, 2017, 02:02:50 PM »
HEATER in a TENT? It is called a sleeping bag.

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« Reply #328 on: December 15, 2017, 02:22:56 PM »
The only time I was ever in Moab was when I was camping there in early Sept, a few years back.  We normally do car/tent camping.  However, for that trip, we were in a rented RV.  (We don't normally rent RVs, but I found a sweet $1 RV repositioning deal that I couldn't refuse.)

Even though we were in an RV, as I recall, the night time temperatures in Moab were perfect for tent camping.

Well, I just looked it up, and I'll admit it....I didn't realize how cold the nights in Moab will be, at the time of year of our MMM meetup.

The average low is not much above freezing.
37 F  /  3 C
 
My eventual plan is to buy a RV/travel trailer for road trips when both my wife and I are retired.
I do enjoy tent camping and I don't think I want to accelerate my RV/travel trailer purchase plans just yet.

So, it looks like I'll need to purchase some type of heater for my tent.  Brrr.


You can get a personal space heater for pretty cheap https://www.walmart.com/ip/Soleil-Personal-Electric-Ceramic-Heater-250-Watt-MH-01-Black/54562671?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=3762&adid=22222222227052822078&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=151777312295&wl4=pla-263800053309&wl5=1016103&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=local&wl12=54562671&wl13=3762&veh=sem

You would just need a small battery pack you can plug into to and place it somewhere you can reach from your bag so you can tun on before you get out of the bed to remove the chill.




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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #329 on: December 28, 2017, 11:36:58 AM »
Ok we're in. I've left a message at the resort to make a reservation but they seem to be working really slow this time of year (can't say I blame them). Ideally I'm aiming for RV site 74-76 as we have a small rig and don't need a sewer hookup. I'll update the big list when I get confirmation. Unfortunately my wife can only get one day off work so we'll be arriving Thursday and need to leave Sunday afternoon to drive back to Denver.

I'd love to organize (note: not "guide" as liability is a funny thing) a group adventure if people were interested. A couple ideas for unique things I'm qualified for:

1) Canyoneering, maybe this one: https://www.roadtripryan.com/go/t/utah/moab/uturn http://climb-utah.com/Moab/uturn.htm ? Think of it as a short but very steep 2 mile hike in Arches National Park away from all the people where you get to do a couple easy bolted rappels. Not at all recommended for those with a fear of heights. There are a ton of beginner friendly canyons in the Moab area, some I've done and some I haven't. I have all the ropes and hard gear for the rappelling, and I have the webbing for 2 extra harnesses but beyond that you'd need to bring your own harness and helmet. If other people had experience and wanted to do something more challenging I'd love to do that too!

2) Rafting. Whitewater is my big sport and I've guided rafts for years. There is a Class I/II river with one class III rapid called the Fisher Towers section just upstream of Moab on the Colorado: https://www.canyonvoyages.com/fisher-towers-day/ I've never run it before but it's a very family friendly stretch (they say good for 4+ years old). The one problem is it could be fairly cold that time of year. We can rent a paddle raft and bring our own food for about $25-30/person for a full day adventure that I could steer vs. about $60-$80pp if you went with one of the local outfitters.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #330 on: December 28, 2017, 11:52:20 AM »
I'd love to organize (note: not "guide" as liability is a funny thing) a group adventure if people were interested. A couple ideas for unique things I'm qualified for:

1) Canyoneering, maybe this one: https://www.roadtripryan.com/go/t/utah/moab/uturn http://climb-utah.com/Moab/uturn.htm ? Think of it as a short but very steep 2 mile hike in Arches National Park away from all the people where you get to do a couple easy bolted rappels. Not at all recommended for those with a fear of heights. There are a ton of beginner friendly canyons in the Moab area, some I've done and some I haven't. I have all the ropes and hard gear for the rappelling, and I have the webbing for 2 extra harnesses but beyond that you'd need to bring your own harness and helmet. If other people had experience and wanted to do something more challenging I'd love to do that too!

I'm down and will bring all my gear, I have a second harness , atc and helmet as well as ropes. This is right up my alley and how cool that the routes are bolted.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #331 on: December 28, 2017, 12:47:38 PM »
My little brother just bought a chunk of camping gear, and in it, there was a harness and shoes. Haven't done anything more than bouldering, but it might be an option.
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #332 on: December 28, 2017, 06:54:17 PM »
I will be up for rock climbing for sure and more than happy to setup top-ropes for people who have little or no experience with the sport, provided that they at least have harnesses, shoes, and helmets. 

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #333 on: January 02, 2018, 03:10:27 PM »
I'm in! I called and booked campsite 113.

I am an avid mountain biker and have been to the area many times. Excited to connect with everyone!

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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #334 on: January 02, 2018, 03:54:14 PM »
I'm in! I called and booked campsite 113.

I am an avid mountain biker and have been to the area many times. Excited to connect with everyone!

YAY!!  This is going to be soooooo fun!!  :D
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Re: Moab, Utah, USA meetup October 18 - 22, 2018
« Reply #335 on: January 17, 2018, 05:44:01 PM »
1) Canyoneering, maybe this one: https://www.roadtripryan.com/go/t/utah/moab/uturn http://climb-utah.com/Moab/uturn.htm ? Think of it as a short but very steep 2 mile hike in Arches National Park away from all the people where you get to do a couple easy bolted rappels. Not at all recommended for those with a fear of heights. There are a ton of beginner friendly canyons in the Moab area, some I've done and some I haven't. I have all the ropes and hard gear for the rappelling, and I have the webbing for 2 extra harnesses but beyond that you'd need to bring your own harness and helmet. If other people had experience and wanted to do something more challenging I'd love to do that too!

2) Rafting. Whitewater is my big sport and I've guided rafts for years. There is a Class I/II river with one class III rapid called the Fisher Towers section just upstream of Moab on the Colorado: https://www.canyonvoyages.com/fisher-towers-day/ I've never run it before but it's a very family friendly stretch (they say good for 4+ years old). The one problem is it could be fairly cold that time of year. We can rent a paddle raft and bring our own food for about $25-30/person for a full day adventure that I could steer vs. about $60-$80pp if you went with one of the local outfitters.

Those both sound awesome. Do we have to pick only one? :)